More progress on my Collectable Monster “Game”

[@jakabshaw4127]

A great joke monster would be just a regular animal that the hunters think is an enigmorph, like a blob fish.

[@filipemartinho1753]

I want an enigmorph that is just a dog (but suspicious)

[@SmudgedSketch]

Maybe a Siphonophore could work? Those are weird as hell

[@BESTdonglewenis7254]

@@filipemartinho1753I imagine it could be a dog that seems very smart but hides it very well

[@virgilepiaux150]

​@@filipemartinho1753 Insert shifty eyed dog joke from the Simpsons here

[@MrRob-wg8uf]

@@jakabshaw4127 the basenji is a dog that acts like a cat, doesn't bark and (speaking from personal experience) be VERY smart

[@indesomniac]

the various forms of each enigmorph would drive me WILD i would be hunting like crazy 😭 i love that idea so much. it's "extra" in the best way possible

[@Subjectively]

It is definitely a mechanic that some people will love and some people will hate

[@LightLukk]

@@Subjectively : In terms of work... you'll have plenty of material to post regularly. In terms of game dev, your team will hate it. Maybe it's a bit to rich.

[@adroitws1367]

@@Subjectively its a fun idea to concept and I like it too, but just be careful that it might blow up the game size and complexity

[@JustDan_777]

​@@SubjectivelyI'm hunting the horned variant of absorbent(?) for days and I hate shiny hunting. What you propose would make it worth it to me

[@97Corvi]

​@@Subjectivelythe idea Is conredibbly cool !!! I agree that as a programmer Is much more conplicated then shinys (that are Just a pallet swap, with the same 3D model) But It may become much easier to develop if you Just swap a low Number of Pieces of the model, keeping the core of the model stable. Kind of like same sort of plug-in on the model, avoiding to create a new entire model for each versione.

[@KazoooGod]

Borabark’s eye being a photograph of the diseased human while also still keeping the signature ‘baby eye’ is so COOL

[@u12blackrose38]

"How early would you say is too early to start setting up halloween decorations" Bro, here in the Philippines, the moment August ends, you'll already see christmas decorations fckin everywhere

[@Subjectively]

🏖️👉🎅🏻

[@LightningIgnis]

NOW THATS TOO EARLY

[@liber2350]

saw them in the store last month too! its crazy

[@tkfarms7882]

And I thought America was pushing things by starting in October...

[@buccaneerguy8197]

It’s never early for spooky season

[@animephisto8862]

Please take your time with this project, it truly has the potential to beat every monster taming games ever made. We support you 10000x

[@blazingwarhammer8141]

Warning from other games that tride expanding shinies out: if you make a million variations, the colecting aspect oddly loses its apeal as they stop feeling unique. I think limiting it to 3 minor variations, 3 major variations, and 3 color variations is perfect for shaking things up. Just be wary that that's already 27 different forms, and that expands rapidly with each adition

[@maximillionchaoswolf]

you are multiplying I think Subjectively is primarily suggesting adding so it would typically just end up being 9 variations

[@pg_purple5700]

plus if he is going with 3d he would have to make a whole lotta models

[@guilhermeluccasmartins]

@@maximillionchaoswolf It depends on how exactly it would work, if it's just that each one has three variations and each can have the colors of the other two than we would end up with 9 different forms, however if I understood it correctly he intends for the head, leaves and colors of each variant to have independants odds of appearing, meaning we could end up with an Bellebora with birch head, sakura leaves and deadwood colors, if that is the case we would end up with 27 possible variations for this one enigmorph alone, if he adds any more possible changes this number will grow exponentially

[@FelicitousFerret]

I'm so happy to see a resurgence of indie developers making games that look similar to that era of ds / early PlayStation games, so to see that that was the style you imagined your enigmorphs in makes me so happy. Something about that style tickles my brain so much! That artist did an amazing job!!

[@Subjectively]

Right?? Definitely gonna be commissioning him to make more Enigmorph models for me

[@DrakeDragonton]

@@Subjectively That model was amazing. The fact that Pokemon looks the way it does instead of like that hurts me. It leaves room for indie to grow bigger though which is always a plus

[@MattAttack911]

​@@Subjectively I like how they have soo much detail

[@CabbyHat]

I really like the "shiny" idea; love the idea of multiple rare traits that could be combined for unique individuals. Speaking just for myself, though, while I absolutely understand that the hours of grinding are part of the appeal for some people, it would be very appreciated if there were workarounds you could achieve by other means to improve your odds somehow - they don't have to be easy, just something to make it possible for players who don't have hundreds of hours to sink into the game to get "shinies" too.

[@speedylurchix3599]

Yes. Like some mutagenics or occult labratory to alter the metaphysical nature of enigmorphs by using rare mutagens or relics.

[@speedylurchix3599]

Yes. Like a mutagenics or occult labratory using rare mutagens or relics to alter the metaphysical nature of enigmorphs.

[@carnivourfromtwitch9284]

Like outbreaks in Pokemon, but for specific traits?

[@erinkarp]

Or making the traits a little more common at least. 1/20 per trait for the middle one, 1/100 for the rare one, or something

[@97Corvi]

It would be cool to.add a mecanic like the Evolutionary Stones in Pokémon. A rare and costly object that you have to keep only for a design that you really want !

[@ValJoeToe]

I think it’d be cool if there was a enigmorph who gradually got smaller as it evolved. Ex: something relating to like how technology has gotten compacted into smaller and smaller devices, while the data than can be stored in them gets bigger and bigger, so like the body get smaller, but it gets more intelligent.

[@snek3gg]

Made me think of like a black hole forming, an object that has so much mass it collapses in on itself and becomes a black hole! Or some theories of how the universe will end, it will slowly start retracting after expanding forever, until everything crashes into this infinitely dense, infinitely small speck which will ultimately cause another big bang! Theres so many cool concepts you could explore!!

[@alvaronavarro4895]

Woah just like the concept behind Porygon

[@karianmavis2838]

Hazement should be construct i think. Due to the fact that dreams are a consequence of a human's subconscious. It fits construct more because it never came to be in the environment through evolution

[@Subjectively]

Someone else said that it should be a construct cause technically human dreams are “man-made”. I kinda like that it gives a little diversity to what could be considered a construct Enigmorph

[@roastingnerd8545]

personally think it's a whole separate thing, an enigmorph born from concepts or intangible things like dreams, thoughts, emotions, time, heat, friction, etc.

[@PlagueDocAeneas]

I do agree on the Construct designation, but I would like to share that humans are far from the only creatures that dream! Scientists have found that octopuses dream, which implies dreaming comes from a very very _very_ old ancestor connecting us to our cephalopod friends :}

[@Jw87563]

@@PlagueDocAeneas Oh, not the Mind Flayers...

[@joweeochiclete]

i agree but itd still be kinda weird to connect the type ( regarding the name) with that enigmorph, so maybe he should rename it?

[@khalidalali5936]

Man listening to someone explaining random stuff they are really fond of is just amazing. Your designs are awesome and the character design episode was one of my favorite episodes. I hope you dont give up on this project.

[@zeppie_]

I love the idea behind the Blue Baby. From my interpretation, it's connected to a single character and their story, meaning that logically there'd only be one this creature in existence. It's not a world-rending beast like Pokemon's mythicals and legandaries, but it's still a unique one of which there's only one.

[@Jw87563]

Like Nebby, in a sense? Get in the bag!

[@The-Silliest-Little-Guy]

There could only exist like one per each moon I think itd be cool if on its own more cosmic eldritch scale there are millions of these at every corner of the universe but on our planet theres just the one To us its weird and unique even by enigmorph standards but really its not thats strange Its every other enigmorph and by extension _us_ on our single little planet of life that are the weird ones once we zoom out to a more grand scale Would fit the theming i think

[@meangreen-]

awe yeah! the best art guy since bob ross posted!

[@Subjectively]

WOW there’s a big compliment!

[@meangreen-]

@@Subjectively sir, you are why i draw in the first place. accept the compliment and weep of joy.

[@MattAttack911]

​@@SubjectivelyDon't stress out man, you don't have to answer all those questions all at once, just take a deep breath, relax and take it one step at a time 😌

[@ItsJustKaya]

Bob ross in reverse 🗿

[@Mossrock-66]

Real

[@Missiletainn]

I love the trend of Creature collectors making thier "Shiny" equivalents different from pokemons "just a different colour", Cassette beasts had Bootlegs, which made the monster a different type and colour, and it could be any of the types in the game, I've got about 6 different bootleg traffikrabs, each a different type. They can even be the same type as normal, but they get rarer stickers. Now you going with altered designs and theming is perfect! Especially with the monster shown as it's a collection of souls in a plant grown from ashes, which plant? who's souls? they wouldn't all form into the same thing, I love it.

[@OrqinusOrca]

WE ADVENTURING WITH THE HUNTER'S HOPE CLUB WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥

[@Subjectively]

Me n gang The gang in question:

[@Quarataia]

We Are!

[@MattAttack911]

Hope we do it again soon

[@Al-manidae]

I still think that a series of short comics would be an easier way to start exploring the narrative side of Apocryphal, as you wouldn't have to preoccupy yourself with gameplay constraint. But if you are intend on making a game, a point-&-click with exploration, investigation and environemental puzzles as the core gamplay with a simple combat system would probably best suit the vibe and themes of this world. As for how many Enigmorphs there should be in such a game, considering lines are typically 3-stages but their could also be singles or 2-stages lines, and considering your idea for variations, I would say no more than 50 to 60 including the Primes.

[@folowfire]

There is a somewhat "easy" way of making a high variety of forms whithout having to make them in extremes. If you know Rainworld you know where i'm going, make it so different forms are akin to points on a graph, in which whenever you find an Enygmorph it defines a value within that graphic so the segments of the body are procedurally modified on a scale between the extremes. This would severely increase variety and uniqueness of each Enygmorph whithout requiring so much direct artistic input.

[@blazingwarhammer8141]

This works great for difrenting between a million of the same creatures, but it lacks the way that shinies pop out that makes them so sought after

[@folowfire]

@@blazingwarhammer8141 Yeah, you could somewhat make them pop out more by making the likeliness of looking more in a certain way rarer but in a general you would be correct. It's generally a matter of taste and I just think that in a more realistic setting this would be more fitting.

[@BABABABABANCHAN]

oooh like rujikthecomatose's critter crosser ?

[@folowfire]

@@BABABABABANCHAN Kinda, but a little different cus his version even changes the creatures bones structure, I was thinking something less agressive, more on the visual aspect

[@BABABABABANCHAN]

@@folowfire yeah i see, i mean critter crosser's procedural gen only works if the game is made around it, otherwise it's too much

[@pyukingmuku]

I think that having puzzle-based bosses a la Zelda would be a good concept going forward. The "answers" would come through environmental hints or monster collection data. I imagine boss battles similar to Legends Arceus, except instead of throwing food at them, you would use your enigmorph or some other tool to reveal the weakness, and then you can capture/destroy/dispel whatever the creature is! I think that the major thing about this game that would set it apart is that every enigmorph should feel like an encounter, rather than just something you blindly run into in the "tall grass." There should be no "filler monsters;" every one should feel exciting and potentially dangerous in a unique way. I know that's difficult from a game design perspective, but this concept and motivation makes each enigmorph feel alive and necessary.

[@primeviale8378]

God I love this series, I think the concepts are so strong, and it’s definitely very ambitious!! I’d just suggest that, if you are intending on making this a video game, that you watch the scope very closely. Pokemon has only 1 shiny form per Pokemon for a reason, and while the thought of having different combinations of body parts and colors is INSANELY COOL, its technically and labor-wise likely to be extremely challenging to implement. I’m excited to see where this goes, always gonna make sure to keep watching this channel, you guys are great!

[@finn9707]

As a ginger with a love of the macabre, the Bellebora enigmorph line really appeals to me. A monster with ginger like hair made from leaves that grows from human remains is fantastic

[@oblivionslefthand]

This idea was based on some of the concepts explored in previous videos, the ideas of the game not being about battling, but exploration and puzzle-solving. It made me think of the Lego games. The first time you go through a map in a Lego game you usually have a set of characters you're supposed to play through, and to solve puzzles you have to use their specific skills and swap between those characters, but on a repeat run you might be able to solve every puzzle with a single character that has all those traits, or there might be a puzzle you couldn't solve the first time because the default characters didn't have the right traits. What if Enigmorphs worked in a similar way? Each has a preset set of puzzle traits, and exploring a "dungeon" would require the trial and error of bringing certain Enigmorphs with you to get to certain locations. Maybe very rare or powerful Enigmorphs are found behind just the right set of puzzles that there are only a few combinations that would allow you to get there. I'd also think that in this scenario, having a map you can take notes on, and check on outside of being in there, would help you when revisiting areas to discover new things. Just a thought I had in between videos.

[@ScadrianGhostblood]

I love blue baby and the man on the moon designs. They are so weird and alien. They even remind me a bit of fear and hunger designs. I also understand some ideas just sticking in your head and developing into something completely new. I hope you find the answer of what this project even is as fast as possible. I personally would try to find the middle ground between what people already love and know about monster catching games and a brand new experience.

[@josepharagones5063]

i was on the TTRPG boat when the poll was made, but i'm extremely exited to see where this game project goes from here, all the designs look insane and it's inspiring to see the whole thing develop

[@yusufkadar]

I love that so many Enigmorphs are based on famous story tropes (enchanted forests, the man in the moon, legendary sea creatures.) It feels like they've always existed and have influenced culture without normal people realizing it.

[@carrotswordgaming3483]

20:54 This reminds me of Yo-kai Watch fr

[@SmudgedSketch]

I have a pitch for a construct enigmorph: something music related! I love music based designs in other monster catchers (Decibelle from cassette beasts is one of my fav designs from that game) and it would help add some variety to the construct enigmorphs, keeping them from just being objects. Also, abstract designs are super cool and you do them amazingly :>

[@profdracko]

Giving big Spectrobes vibes. Love it.

[@woomy2343]

I really like the idea of having multiple variants or traits for each Enigmorph, but having them be variable per enigmorph seems like it would get really tedious really quickly. There's a reason why so many people shiny hunt with things that boost their odds. If you want to include multiple traits in sort of a genetic kind of way, perhaps being able to fuse enigmorphs of the same species would be a good way to go about that, or perhaps collecting some kind of shard or soul item that allows you to change the form of your enigmorph that you can only get from obtaining or slaying a rare form that you find in the wild. This encourages the hunting, but it also cuts down on the tedium.

[@justalexiadude]

dunno if this would be great, but an idea i have would be the player going out in different areas, trying to fill out information about each Enigmorph by trying to find out if theyre hostile, passive, or if doing some specific thing angers them, or maybe even try to figure out how they fight, how to defeat them or what they prefer to consume, kinda like monster hunter but instead of defeating them, u study them. u could probably take pictures of them to add to some sort of notebook with a page dedicated to each of them

[@KamikazeWarBat]

I remain super excited about this project regardless of the shape it takes, Blue Baby and the Hazement cycle are great additions and I love them!

[@SmudgedSketch]

19:12 you say that but this REALLY reads as yokai watch to me (in a good way, i love those games and their brand of weirdness could definitely work for some enigmorphs)

[@spitfire5180]

If we can pitch gameplay mechanics, i feel like i remember you mentioning the idea of enigmorphs being able to change forms in either direction between nascent, harbinger, and apex. If we're looking at it through a pokemon style turn based RPG lens, then it could be interesting to have the enigmorphs change form as an action in the middle of a battle to gain different stats and possibly different moves. While a nascent enigmorph could be fast, piercing, and maybe focus more on status abilities as a sort of rogue character; an apex enigmorph could then be a tanky character that's a heavy hitter but is also very slow. Needing to switch between forms would lean a lot further into the strategy side of things that pokemons typical move spamming (at least in the main game's plots). Also, this mechanic would likely encourage the use of status moves as more turns would be 'wasted' on state changing actions. As a side note, I think it could be interesting to consider how a monster collection turn based battle system could easily translate into more of a deck builder structure.

[@LightLukk]

Hey Jack, Lovely to get this update. I am and shall continue to look forward to this project. Let's start with comments/ questions: - The newest designs are great. I love the forms of Gibaku and the main colour. - Is there a reason for the repetition of belly-mouth and mono-eye? Those characteristics are interesting (while not on top of my list in terms of appeal), but (maybe because of the limited pool of enigmorph) they feel overused right now. A suggestion for a concept: - An enigmorph based on Reflexion. A broken mirror transforming into a "stained glass window" trying to recreate what it once reflected. - For a Prime Enigmorph: The concept of Known and Unknown. The Known being a tiny little shardlike creature entangled in the Unknown.

[@redtomato4903]

This video is sooooo relatable as I’ve had my own game idea brewing for years, but no code experience, or even a full idea of the gameplay yet. It can be scary worrying if what you’re making is too big or if it’ll even be fun, but I know it’s worth it making a dream come to life. Good luck on the enigmorph project!

[@StellarD00d]

If Pokemon's got that patent on "ball throwing capture devices" these look like they would be cool designs for like... quick drawing a transmutation circle... capture devices. Hahaha

[@Child-of-Grimbus]

Enigmorph Pitch: An Anxious Hourglass that is always rotating because it's afraid of the sand, time, from slipping away It would eventually become some type of Confident Mummy that has bound the sand in place with some form of binding. To get over its fear of losing time, the Apex form has constricted time, becoming something outside of it

[@joojian4861]

I always love seeing more developments with apocryphal and something that scratches my shiny hunting itch will certainly do nicely. I will say that the ability mix and match alternate traits seems super fun but I think the probability of the mechanic poses a small issue, how are the non color Sakura traits (face and braids) a Sakura trait unless there’s a correlation? What if instead of being rolled completely separately there was a roll for Common-Morph, Rare-Morph 1, Rare-Morph 2, then a separate roll to see if there are deviations from the default traits of that morph. This allows the mixing and matching of different morph traits while still making certain traits seem like they belong to certain morphs. On a somewhat unrelated note I did have an idea for another system that might work if we’re using enigmorphs to solve puzzles the way you discussed in a previous video. While it makes sense for certain general kinds of enigmorphs (flora, fauna, construct, etc.) to share certain capabilities I think it would make sense to use a system somewhat similar to Pokémon abilities but having maybe 3-5 per enigmorph to give them a unique skillset when interacting with the world. By having there be a set list that could be shared among many kinds of enigmorphs it would allow puzzles to be streamlined while having many possible solutions, it could be used to realize the idea that some nascent enigmorphs might have more capabilities than their harbinger form, it could give you a reason to be constantly diversifying your team and befriending a lot of enigmorphs. I really like the idea if Apocryphal is going to be more puzzle oriented and reward curiosity and all that good stuff.

[@Evyanon]

15:49 Jack: this is to reward players|| Actualky Jack: I love for you to suffer

[@byleth0726]

This is around the peak of KZbin projects of all times

[@eveejojo]

Doing a test level can help, testing out a format to see which one fits your project the best (though narrowing down the list things to try first will be needed) suggest to look into both game you like, and games that tell stories with a similar vibe & art direction. ( I think the game dredge can be a good one to start with for game format ideas. Also a Lovecraftain horror story that has a focus on art direction. Though its game play it based around fishing&travel, but it give you a start. Hopes this helped

[@anthraxcrab2222]

OK hear me out Pinocchio themed enigmorph. Perhaps instead of becoming more anthropomorphic as it corrupts a it gains a monstrous conceptual “human like” form.

[@MattAttack911]

@@anthraxcrab2222 Like it

[@curtisjones9372]

One of the greatest things in the world is speaking to people who are passionate about something. It's so fulfilling compared to the dreary day to day small talk. That is why I love this channel because your passion oozes out of you. It's inspiring and relatable to see someone who just enjoys creating and sharing those creations.

[@hoshi4038]

Honestly more than pokemon its giving Yokai watch or Shin megami tensei, the designs ooze so much personality that instead of just capturing them i would have to negotiate to get them into my team

[@Jw87563]

Negotiation? I like it. How about Enigmorphs can sometimes take the money and items you give them and just straight up leave?

[@snowman6633]

I NEED MORE OF THIS!! I love everything about this project. One potential idea for an enigmorph is maybe some sort of construct type religious tool/item. I’m not sure if you’re thinking of having split corruptions but if you did, you could have it corrupt to portray either the “evil” or “good” side of the religion, depending on what it’s exposed to by humans. If it is exposed to more fear of the evil side or praise of the good side, it’ll choose which side it deems more powerful and take that form. Maybe the “good” side could be the light type, and the “bad” side could be fire type?

[@endersalasa3396]

I love the shiny concept! Personally I think Cassette Beasts has done shinies the best, changing the monster’s type and the kinds of moves it can learn. Highly recommend that game by the way.

[@OriginallyGinger]

I loved the humans character vid can't wait to see where this goes, ik you had put out a poll and I still love the idea as a video game or TTRPG!! Love this project so much

[@WojikCantRest]

Been a long time fan, seeing your world building and projects has inspired me so much. Incredibly excited to see the future of your game, always keep creating!

[@robertgronewold3326]

A witch themed Enigmorph for October could be lots of fun. Something that combines a classic hat, the cycle of the moon and the three-fold goddess.

[@deltatoons2435]

It’s never to early to set up Halloween decorations.

[@AzuRemilia]

The idea for the "shiny" Enigmorphs reminds me a bit of My Singing Monsters, and how the Rares are basically mutations of the Common variant and Epics are so outlandish they feel more like convergent species than part of the same family The entire idea of a more cosmic horror-inspired monster catching game with genuinely mature themes is smth I've been thinking about for a while so I am really excited to see where it'll go!

[@DragonGirl408]

I absolutely love the designs you've created! If you have the idea to create 9 different variations of the same creature then maybe there could be a way to (once you've seen or captured every variation?) create or breed the enigmorphs to get the traits you wanted? No idea how that would work lore wise or if it's something you would want, but that's just a suggestion I thought would be neat.

[@jeanmaroune5686]

I discovered your channel through this video, and your concepts inspired me, so I wanted to share a few ideas that have sprouted in my mind. The idea of a more adult, strategic "Pokémon-like" game has incredible potential!! I’ve thought about revising the basic gameplay loops of Pokémon to give it a fresh twist, particularly regarding capture and evolution. I hope this can inspire you for what’s next! Good luck to you! Enigmorphs: Unstable creatures, "cursed" by primordial energy, that roam the world. They do not respond to human commands and can be violent. Their curse is based on five "receptacles" on their bodies forming a pentagram. Each receptacle corresponds to an element unique to this universe (fire, water, darkness, etc.). Capture: To capture an Enigmorph, scientists must use chains infused with occult energy (the effectiveness of the chains depends on the type of infused energy corresponding to the type of Enigmorph). Initially, the creatures are resistant to the chains, but during battles (a classic turn-based system, to be developed), it's possible to weaken their resistance. By using a technique that corresponds to one of the receptacles’ types, that receptacle breaks, decreasing the creature’s resistance to capture. However, when encountering an Enigmorph for the first time, we do not know the nature of its receptacles, prompting us to try different attack types, which makes capturing more strategic regarding team composition. We can also imagine consumables to use in battle that simulate the effect of using a specific type of technique. The Enigmorphs in the starting area would have accessible receptacle types, but as the game progresses, these can become more complex and even more numerous. Evolution: After reaching a certain level, a pentagram activates on the creatures' bodies, indicating that a transmutation ritual is possible. The player can then decide to organize this ritual: necessary base materials (unlockable through quests or crafting), specific locations, and specific temporal conditions. The chains used to capture the Enigmorph prevent it from transmuting, so they must be removed, freeing the creature but allowing it to transmute. At this point, a battle begins against our own creature: once all its receptacles are broken, the Enigmorph transmutes, and it can be captured again. If it is killed or if the player dies, the Enigmorph does not transmute (or is lost in hardcore mode). This adds a strategic layer to the evolution mechanic and allows for greater involvement in team formation. It can also allow for the evolution of certain creatures to coincide with key moments in the storyline (for example, a starter that can only reach its final form after completing a quest that grants access to a location for the ritual, just before facing an important boss). We can also imagine alternative evolutions based on the type of ritual we choose to perform (the more difficult the ritual, the more powerful the transmutation form, for example).

[@maoopan]

It is getting rather spooky and scary and skeletons in this time of year ain't it

[@NoelleBaba]

Loving the Enigmorph designs so far, your passion for the mysterious really shines through! As far as the gameplay aspect goes, it's probably worth it to think about different games you've played and whether or not their mechanics fit your vision, and how. Pokémon for example tends to keep the main story gameplay accessible enough that putting a Pokémon with a type advantage in front and using the move with the highest number is usually a sufficient strategy. Does something like that keep battles a fun diversion and let the aesthetics and world design take center stage, or would it make the Enigmorphs feel unremarkable by having such otherworldly designs be simple to deal with? Legends Arceus added the idea of move styles, which give each move two additional versions, each with their own pros and cons. Does the player and their opponent having more options deepen engagement, or make the game feel like playing chess against a computer that knows you've chosen unoptimally? Would expanding on the idea of styles add variety or clutter? Game design is an artform like any other, you flex your creative muscles by studying how and why other artists make the decisions they do, and how they contribute to the final piece. And other people can only give you advice for you to judge on your own terms, it's your style after all, not theirs.

[@pidge8845]

There is no such thing as being too early for Halloween decorations.

[@ailingstar8856]

I think I might have suggested this before, but I think your ideas for this project makes me think of Monster Sanctuary a bit, so that might be good to take a look at if you ever want some ideas for exploration. Also, kind of a weird idea, but I'd love to see an enigmorph based on cookware, especially cast-iron.

[@HungaMunga]

OMG OMG OMG 3:23 HE SAID THE NAME OF THE THING IN THE THING

[@jacobbiggs7956]

Bellebora is actually very much like something I was wondering about before, an Enigmorph formed from a human corpse. How much of the human survives within the Enigmorph and the ramifications. I envisioned it as a major villain, but I like the eerily not-uncommon nature of Bellebora. I also really like the Hazement line, it's got a badass and intimidating look. This is very much a setting I'd love to write something formally for if I ever get the chance.

[@LabRatz-Ivor]

OH MY GOD THIS JUST DROPPED A MINUTE AGO AND ALREADY 60 PEOPLE ARE ON IT?

[@NayaM0]

fell off

[@jeremiahriley663]

I just wanna say thank you for continuing this project. I really enjoy watching you create whole new world and illustrations. It’s because of videos like the mazah region and the anagmorph project that I have made my own monster collection project in the form of the card game. Can’t wait to see what comes next.

[@Baked_bean571]

THIS IS MY SUPERBOWL

[@francislino]

The more I see of the enigmorph series the more I want to play it already! I just love the idea so much, specially the new variants.

[@crylemite]

0:15 I'd say around August 31st

[@robolo4228]

November 1st.

[@slimetank394]

​@@robolo4228 bro that's literally after Halloween

[@robolo4228]

@@slimetank394 it’s still to early mate, am I wrong? I don’t I am.

[@TisSAAAAAM]

Love the subtle jab at Palworld at 11:34

[@zeanone9257]

I agree 💯👍

[@manlykat]

22:27 Is Bro still upset about Pal World? If he thinks people played it primarily for the monster design and deep lore, then he's missing the point. people played it because it was fun and silly, and calling it a cash grab is wild, it's far from a piece of turd tossed to us in hopes we would buy it, unlike star wars outlaws, concord, Dustborn and suicide squad...

[@zeanone9257]

Pokemon with gun is the only thing that people remember

[@manlykat]

@@zeanone9257 as thats what it was, it was a very fun parody. Like how Freddy faze bear is also a dark parody of chucky cheese, grabbing something sweet and innocent and making it messed up is cool and realy pokes the brain in the right places.

[@zeanone9257]

@@manlykat yes parody are good 👍😊 I don't hate it I am just saying that a parody often doesn't have it's own identity and is relience on the the stuff that it parodies. Even if it has its own identity it will be remember as a parody and not as the real thing

[@manlykat]

@@zeanone9257 i guess? but i don't think parody's like fnaf will be remembered as the checky cheese parody, tho on the other hand i can see pal world going down as the badass Pokémon game with guns that manage to do open world better then the actual game company.

[@zeanone9257]

@@manlykat you just view point

[@TheApexLion1234]

I think an enigmorph based on a map would be cool, A monster could probably emerge from it based on those creepy illustrations on older maps (especially for sea creatures)

[@Quarataia]

Another amazing video for the Apocryphal repertoire, and another marvelous design to the growing numers. I still stand with the idea of it being a TTRPG setting and gameplay book, but if game is still the most popular, I have to say, that model really does a good job in selling the idea. On the shiny concept, one thing you made me remember was how early Digimon had variants, essentially reusing model and animations for a entire separate creature, to increase creature count and diversify the game a bit, not sure if it helps.

[@scribblemin]

No lie, I’ve watched this video like 5 times now I’m so in love with this game concept. From the monster designs that cater to me so hard, to the methods you use to create your art, I’m super excited to see where this goes

[@Fatomeki]

Since you showed some lethal company gameplay. What if your game was somewhat similiar to that. Like the gameplay loop is: 1. You get a request from your organization that a new enigmorph has been spotted in a location. For example an abandoned factory 2. You travel to that location and meet other humans and maybe some lesser enigmorphs on the way. 3. You reach the location and suddenly the game becomes somewhat a horror game with the enigmorph warping its surroundings and youre solving puzzles, interact with enigmorphs until you reach the target enigmorph. And instead of having traditional turn based combat, what if it was more like a mix of pokemon snap and lethal company, where you have gadget and enigmoroh abilities which you can use to interact with the enviroment and enigmorphs. Like every Enigmorph has things they likenand dislike. Maybe you can befriend the plant enigmorph by watering plants in front of it for example.

[@marisstaff7019]

I feel like knowledge being treated as an item in this game gained from studying, with lore/flavor text would fit this game.

[@nano_driller1892]

This series randomly burrowed into my head this past few days and just as i was about to re-watch it, you upload a new video! Keep up the awesome work, very excited to see where it goes.

[@freewritingseer]

not gonna lie, an enigmorph based on cthulu with like the first stage being a widdle squid baby, it will have my whole heart forever

[@deoxycraftvods8133]

That 3d render took me straight to X and Y, after seeing that i am convinced i will play this. if this game has that style of models i will be so hyped.

[@anru_tofu]

I love this so so much. Your art style, the idea behind each enigmorph. Please take your time and keep making monsters you love!!! Whether or not this becomes a game, watching you work in the hopes of making one is enjoyable all on its own ❤

[@ProjectMirai64]

I am in love with these designs

[@MochaMouseCafe]

I think now knowing your vision as it stands? A point-and-click adventure game might be perfect!

[@shafiurrahaman3396]

This development process, game idea and really channel in general is quickly becoming a feel-good space on the internet for me. The potency of the apocryphal vision and the way you are able to express it in these designs is just so compelling to me for reasons I can’t quite articulate, but I think it is at least in part because it reminds me of the times I feel inspired and creative. All that to say, amazing work and all the best!

[@SnackMuay]

An idea for a game medium: A digital trading card game where the power of the enigmorphs can be harnessed/channeled via the cards. And you could still interact with the enigmorphs in the overworld.

[@galleryg998]

omg I love Paracetaa's work! wasn't expecting this collab but you're completely right, the low poly 3D stuff is a great fit

[@aidandoyle3570]

You are truly creating something absolutely incredible here!!!!! And i am SO EXCITED!!!!! I cant wait to watch this grow and evolve!! The designs you have so far are all phenominal and truly inspiring! I love how it caters to the ppl who like just a “lil guy” and the ones who love a total beast monster. The little dream guy is so cute, but i love that his nightmare form is super creepy. And what he becomes is just so amazing

[@thaumatomane]

The idea of different variant colours AND features that you can try to switch and mix is AMAZING! I would be addicted to that!

[@acemcwolf5445]

You know, I just had a thought, If you want a minigame, Or maybe a short teaser game to drum up hype... Why not take inspiration from a little indie game called: *"Home Safety Hotline".* The idea is that you play the part of a hotline operator, Needing to identify what your callers are dealing with. Rats gnawing in the walls. Black mould causing respiratory problems. A TV that is, In fact, A living creature that's enveloped the callers child, Slowly digesting them with no way to get them out, While all you can do is to use a memory draining wisp to forget they ever existed. Frozen leaky pipes. That sort of thing you know? You could even have the player using whatever this game equivalent to the Pokédex as the guidebook needed to figure out what protocol should be used.

[@MattAttack911]

That would be a start

[@alexpfeifle879]

I could see Bellebora as a character you encounter in specific forested areas based on how you interact with the forest. If you collect and plant seeds and clear away waste it will appear in a positive encounter to aid you in some way or give you some gift while if you damage the forest like chopping trees to sell or build up the home base too much at once you will get in a battle encounter where it will attack and intimidate you until you leave.

[@runaway-rosie6345]

I absolutely LOVE the idea of having multiple forms and being able to have Enigmorphs with a mixture of traits. It's one of my favorite things to customize companions in games, but it's so soooo rare to see. This video has made me feel super inspired, even moreso than many your other videos! In my heart, I'm making my own fan concepts for Enigmorphs now, they're so versatile

[@savannahsmith4739]

I love everything about this project and wish you the best! Have fun regardless of what you do and I’m certain every here will absolutely love it!

[@nuzdot2745]

Watching this video makes me want to create my own Enigmorph. The part where you talked about what a Nascent Enigmorph was really inspired me and gave me ideas.

[@crispylasagna]

I do like the expansion on the idea of shinies, but as other people have said it can get out of hand really quickly and end up not being fun. Just one Enigmorph with 3 parts that can have 3 variations results in 27 possibilities. Not only would this make the amount of work for a game huge (imagine even 20 Enigmorhps totaling 520 forms), players who enjoy collecting special forms or ones who just want to hunt for a specific form would have to go through hell. I think simplifying the idea would work best, maybe instead of 3 forms with 3 parts, just have the 3 forms. I know this is less interesting, but’s so much more manageable for developing a game and for players who play the game.

[@SisisisaiJennerstilldnno-rp3yo]

I love enigmorphs The sythe fossil one should totally be a boss like enemy that you have to get around in a old museum

[@PIMKAMINA2]

i think the variations will definitly make each player feel like their enigmorphs are individual rather than A Member of The Species which are all interchangable. makes each player have a truly unique journey.

[@SomePersonDoesStuff]

Please continue this project, it has so much potential, and I love the art style

[@ilexontrooper9688]

Ahhhh!!! I love love love the enigmorph project!!! The designs, aesthetic, atmosphere and all the concepts you've shown are so cool and fun! Can't wait to see more but also can wait for whenever that may be : )

[@97Corvi]

My god, your designs for this game are soooo amaizing !!! The dream moster concept is really cool !

[@henrizika710]

Just commenting to leave couple of things for possible inspiration. 1 Huntik: animated series revolving around mythology, magic and adventure, 2 Ancient magus bride: real world myths and magic, 3 Kamichu: old anime about japanese gods, 4 Isekai shokudou: anime about restaurant which door connects to fantasy world every wednesday from where customers of that world come to eat(maybe rest area for the game?)

[@Wee_Thought]

Its insane how the 3d artist managed to take the exact drawing and make the boy spin. It looks so 2d and 3d at the same time and its literally 1 to 1 with the original. I wish pokemon 3d forms could be anywhere close to as true to the artwork as that

[@DecoyZ]

This is a really fascinating idea and i cant wait to see where it goes! Im working on a few of my own game ideas at the moment and some have somewhat similar aesthetics and themes to this one which i find very interesting

[@EpicRandomness555]

20:57 Oh that kinda reminds me of the Hades style. I love that. Specifically the enemies when you’re actually playing. Simultaneously 2D and 3D

[@Formoka]

You mentioned at one point early on having the capture method for the Enigmorphs be tied to their specific lore, and I thought that was a beautiful idea. I’m not sure how viable that is with the number of Enigmorphs to plan to make or how many there will be, but the idea of maybe finding an Enigmorph that is just lonely and sitting with it so it joins you… that warmed my heart a little. And it does place a heavier emphasis on research, exploration, and storytelling.

[@JmonsterNEO]

I think that you should look at the Demon God Pillars from the Fate series for ideas for the deathbloom-sauropod design. Also I think you could get a few good ideas from the Abnormalities of the Project Moon series, which are all eldritch entities that are based from the collective consciousness. You could also have Enigmorphs generated by a certain Prime share design styles.

[@icarlynarly69]

This series has slowly but surely become one that i look forward to seeing more of every time, and are able to put everything aside to give it my full attention. I love the creature designs and the care put into them and the world they inhabit, which may also be why i like the idea of enigmorph variants. Their differences however small helps them feel more alive and unique than they already are to me, i will look forward to whatever is next :)

[@dietrichwolf8189]

love the designs so far, really cool ideas. i could imagine it being a bit like "Folklore" gameplay-wise.