More Ridiculous Prices being Paid for WATA Graded...Atari 2600 Video Games!

In this video, we discuss uneducated speculators bidding up fairly common factory sealed Atari 2600 games graded by WATA Games and sold via Heritage Auctions. More videos to follow, as this market is unestablished and being manipulated massively. Be cautious if entering the market for vintage graded video games at present time.

[@PatTheNESpunk]

I couldn't try to even calculate how many unopened 2600 games are out there -- they were being sold on clearance at toy stores until the late 80s/early 90s for pennies on the dollar.

[@ReservedInvestments]

It’s insane how many factory sealed Atari games are out there.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

This has totally been a scam that's getting out of hand.

[@nothing2stupid]

Along with the other collections, you certainly have an admirable stockpile of awesome band shirts as well. Great video!

[@MrESMGe]

Shawn I just wanted to tell you thank you for this video! As always, I thoroughly enjoy your input and discussion, and I await your next installment with eager anticipation.

[@theconsolecollector]

Im curious on your thoughts of the recently Nintendo gamecube debacle. A two pack recently sold for $6100 usd. Right after the ebay auction ended 3 other copies popped up for sale

[@Sinn0100]

Oh...ouch!

[@EnlightenedBulbasaur]

People said the same thing about Pokemon cards being in a "bubble" after prices went way up in 2016 but this "bubble" never popped. Prices retraced a little bit after the price surge led to an increase in the population for many cards but in the last few years the price of sealed product has gone up exponentially and now the supply for the most valuable vintage stuff is extremely low relative to the size of the market. Pokemon has been entrenched in the culture for over 20 years now and it's still super popular with today's children, this isn't something that's going away anytime soon.

[@ReservedInvestments]

But prices can still fall...Star Wars collectibles have fallen in value even from the coveted Kenner vintage line. You can have a pop culture icon gain in popularity while prices for vintage collectibles in that category still fall. Pokemon is in a bubble at present time...much like MTG was back when Alpha Investments appeared...same speculators, same market manipulators...

[@EnlightenedBulbasaur]

@@ReservedInvestments I'm not saying that market manipulators don't exist but I will say that when you look at the sheer number of people who are interested in the hobby against the tiny supply of the most valuable vintage stuff (sealed boxes, trophy cards, 1st edition PSA 10s/9s, etc.) the prices don't seem at all unsustainable to me in the long-term. (Again, I'm not saying there won't be a retrace on prices for certain items that blew up quickly.) There are some problems with trying to do a 1-to-1 comparison between Pokemon and other hobbies like Star Wars and Magic. Star Wars was not a hobby built around collecting. Pokemon was built for collecting from the ground up, both in the games and the cards and everything else. MTG does not have nearly as large of an audience as Pokemon. Pokemon is the highest-grossing media franchise of all-time, Magic can't compete with that. MTG is being more confined to a specific older audience, Pokemon is spreading across generations. Besides that, MTG cards that have fallen in value are mostly newer stuff from what I understand. The oldest stuff like the Alpha cards really hasn't fallen off in value at all. My point is not that vintage Pokemon products can never fall in value. I just think you're mischaracterizing what's going on with the market as a bubble that is about to pop.

[@its_garcia]

We all value your knowledge of the greater antiques and collectibles market. Thanks for the video Shawn

[@ggr8523]

I'll give him $5 in ten years for it and that may be his best offer

[@crazycarlsadventures5983]

Atari is before my time ... I know it was super hot in the early 2000’s thanks to eBay and now today demand has cooled off ..but it’s nice to see demand back ...even though it’s for brand new graded .. I’m sure all these prices will adjust over time .. look at CGC ... it’s very similar situation ...

[@ReservedInvestments]

100% correct!

[@Foslopac]

Shawn, what parts of the vintage game market do you see growing from here? I'd appreciate that video.

[@neatuhfajita9128]

agree

[@palletown_marketplace]

Am I not the only one here who would kill to see a video of Shawn and SMpratte together Discussing the Pokémon market?? Can we make this video happen??? Would also love to see a video in regards to the details on how the Pokémon market is being manipulated. Thank you for the amazing vids as always!

[@wellingtonskatekr3w]

PALLETTOWN POKEMON make this happen! SMPRATTE

[@charyvazone7969]

Fool Pratte is a child with basic knowledge of economics. Shawn and Pratte ain't in the same category. Shawn already stated Pokemon isn't a good investment you aren't even paying attention.

[@bluemountain33]

Hi Shawn, Speaking of antique glassware what do you think about long term investment in Staffordshire, Rabbitware Tankards and childrens cups, etc?

[@jebrennock]

"...the poor timmy pointdexter..." I hope will be a reoccurring character. Good vid.

[@shadowmaster90000]

Is there a place where I can compare vga to wata grading scales? For example, you mentioned that a VGA 90 does not equal to a wata 9.0 graded game. I checked in the wata website and it doesn't mention the condition of the game with the grade such as a 90 being a near mint copy in vga.

[@Igorsov]

shadowmaster90000 VGA 90 is like WATA 9.4-9.6.

[@ReservedInvestments]

I did a video on this exact topic...one of my earliest videos too!

[@achesontrading427]

@@ReservedInvestments GREAT VIDEO!!!

[@avenger1212]

I've listened to a number of your videos now, and when you talk about what pop culture items sell for, you don't often seem to mention that sales of these items do often go to people that actually want the item and are not buying it for an investment. I paid $250 each for a couple of graded TMNT turtle figures recently which may or may not go up in value. I just researched eBay prices on them as far back as the history went (which isn't usually more than a few months), and tried to get a good price based on that. If they go up in value great. If they go down, I really don't care cause, my God man, Leonardo brings back so many great memories of going to Walmart and cracking that blister in the back of my parents car on the way home as the streetlights went by, excited to get home when I finally had enough light to appreciate the treasure I had. The value of that figure is beyond money to me. I worked to get money to get those figures, and I had to work to find them all because they were just so darn popular back then and SO MANY weeks going to Warlmart yielded an empty shelf except for the ones nobody wanted like Rat King or Baxter Stockman. It was a big deal to find one. It's possible the guy that bought Pitfall wanted to have a good grade graded copy of it, and bought it thinking "This must be what these are going for". It seems like someone spending $2500 is going to be very careful about it and do due diligence. But, if they aren't sacrificing food for a collectible, they may just decide the price is worth it to them for the enjoyment of having it at that time. I'm not saying your advice is bad here, but not every sale is someone trying to make a buck down the road. I just think that sometimes gets overlooked for people who want the item. For them, all this investing and speculating just makes it expensive if not impossible for them to buy back the memories they love. I don't know what my point is here, as this is an investment channel, so of course your discussions are going to be driven by that. I guess I just wanted to comment on this particular aspect of the trade. I guess I'm also just disappointed that these wonderful items from our past are treated this way. And, maybe this is what you mean by established collecting categories, that it's not driven by people who love the items and realistic and established historical values that let people get what they pay for. And, if so, that's a shame. But, I'm glad you're out here making these videos. So, also, THANKS!

[@CMRetroGaming]

great stuff man

[@costakambouroglou5579]

Two videos calling Pokemon in a bubble and manipulated. When is this video solely on the pokemon bubble coming?

[@charyvazone7969]

Right I believe the Trophy cards and events cards maybe the only ones left with legs but buying premium for those isn't worth it lol.

[@Maneco2109]

hello, quick question which company would you recommend to grade games if I'm looking for the most profit (assuming my game is sealed and in mint condition.

[@ReservedInvestments]

Modern or vintage games? For vintage, WATA has the edge...

[@MIaco-qm1bx]

@@ReservedInvestments would WATA be the better choice for ps2/ps3/xbox as well?

[@tdpetrucci84]

Great video Shawn. Not sure if you have looked into the current market for vintage Marvel t-shirts from the early 1990s. The market appears to be manipulated by a small group of collectors who keep raising the prices .

[@superchargerboy5750]

Hey it’s probably not your thing for this channel but I’d love it if you went through some eBay listings on sealed retro games pointing out which ones would be good investments to buy and submit to WATA& what would be bad ones. The market seems to be all over the place for unsealed carts but I’m interested in getting into the market. Thanks I’ve leaned a lot from your channel keep em comin!

[@achesontrading427]

a gold Zelda cart in WATA 8.5 just sold for $150 vs up to $30K for some high end stuff so there's definitely an opportunity in cart only populations will we believe will surface in time as more and more CIB/NIB get's encased by VGA/WATA

[@BasTHoorn]

I collect now vintage and modern soccer cards. Vintage is where I spend the money for long term. Modern Short term.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

I am a fan of this channel, so this is not meant as a salty comment, but I am genuinely confused why you'd be participating in the market manipulation of these games (if that's what you were indicating in the end of the video). Maybe I misunderstood what you meant, but it seems hard to reconcile with your content, as your videos seemed to be aimed at helping point-dexters stay away from being sucked and all that sort of thing. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant when you talking about being in a anonymous group and all that.

[@Zombiesaddict99]

Awesone video!!

[@reniehandler2595]

16:24 Just curious as to why you consigned your items under an alias? What is the negative about consigning under one's own name?

[@BeastSlayer14]

I'm curious on your thoughts on eBay's new managed payments regarding selling coins. Will this have an affect on collecting?

[@karenhayes5623]

eBay managed payments do not apply to coins, automobiles and real estate.

[@achesontrading427]

GREAT POINT at the end...in sports cards it's become PSA 10s only...so in box art what are the 1-5% pieces???

[@georgedorn9394]

The piece of currency costing less than a third of the video game really puts it into perspective...

[@SuperCandyy]

I know this is random, But do you think limited edition Anime on blu-ray will be worth an investment?

[@ReservedInvestments]

No! Movies have no investment potential with very few exceptions...

[@BasTHoorn]

I searched the auction on HA. Prices are indeed insane, but for some games I get why there is a premium on. ( the premium value Idk)

[@MarioMario-bl1fu]

Any chance these prices are inflated by wata or others to get people to submit their games and they make more money? I need to watch that book video

[@tdpetrucci84]

Hey Shawn, you should do a video on the affect the last dance documentary has had on the sneaker market . Also did you see that shoe that sold for over 500k at Sotheby's?

[@ggr8523]

Shaun do you insure your collection ? That has to be part your investment year after year

[@achesontrading427]

when insurance companies require riders and set caps on video games, it's too late to become an investor...

[@achesontrading427]

the Pitfall argument ignores the significance of genre creating first appearance like let's say PSA 9 Michael Jordan RC 1st Fleer Appearance est. $20K vs PSA 10 Jordan 2nd Fleer Appearance est. $10K OR CGC 94 Amazing Fantasy #15 est. $20K vs Amazing Spidey #1 vs Amazing Spidey #2 so it's more about the historical significance as Pitfall II has little significance in terms of 1st appearance, genre making, history, etc. $10K for a 1st Appearance, 1st Genre, etc. might appear undervalued to investors that believe video games will make the pitfall leap from toys to hobbies to collectibles then cross the chasm to legitimate investments. Insurance companies will decide that in time... But as of May, 2020 the market is shaking out 1st Appearances, 1st Editions, Genre Pioneers, Franchise Rookies, Short Prints, Variations, Test Runs, Prototypes, etc. and may take years to sort out but we believe this 1st wave of 1st appearances reaching four and five figures is the very beginning of a long long career as gaming matures from collecting into investing at the same time digital reduces production of physical further cementing the art value of the 100 person teams required to produce each sharp 8 cornered boxed with manual to explain highly engineered physical cartridges to investors forever sealed in a VGA/WATA case.

[@maertens29]

A few years ago I had the same 1988 print of Mario Bros in VGA 80+ or 85 and was laughed out the room for wanting $400 for it. I think I got a bit over $275 in the end? People all cited how common it was, which it is.

[@achesontrading427]

are you talking about loose carts, loose manuals or sealed boxes with 8 sharp corners?

[@ReservedInvestments]

A 9.2 doesn’t have ‘8 sharp corners either.’ Actually, a VGA 80+ is a higher condition than a WATA 9.2.

[@maertens29]

It was actually 2014. My memory is worse than I thought haha. Here's a snippet from a member over at AtariAge breaking down my buy/sell: In the end a price point of $440 was agreed to. IMO the seller is damn lucky he broke even off the $320 he originally paid for it. Subtract 15% ebay fees and you get approximately ~$374 back. Minus what he paid is ~$54, so in the end, he flipped it for barely ~16% profit. Lucky he passed off an expensive turd now somebody else has to "eat" it! I'd of gladly paid $30, not a penny more... :P Flash forward six years, WHAM, 9K item.

[@maertens29]

I'm not sure what you're saying. VGA 80+/VGA 85 is quite self explanatory.

[@charyvazone7969]

Is Pwcc and yugioh not worth Speculating in?

[@ReservedInvestments]

Yugioh is not on the same playing field investment wise, as Pokemon or MTG...

[@BillB808]

I'd definitely prefer silver to paper...in UK auction houses today you can pick up a lot of stuff below scrap price for Silver so its zero risk...i mean if you want to buy a couple of nice candlesticks its not scrap price...but quite a lot is. Nice to invest in a market that has an out in the form of the price of the material!

[@MikeTCG]

Atari games have gotten all the attention from this block, but what about the NES and SNES titles that sold? I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of the high prices there and whether those were good investments or not, like the Zelda on NES for nearly 40k and the Chrono Trigger on SNES for nearly 30k. Are they not being discussed as much because they were good long-term purchases or just as bad?

[@ReservedInvestments]

I already discussed this in previous videos...

[@MikeTCG]

@@ReservedInvestments Ah I must've missed it, will go back and check!

[@achesontrading427]

SUPPLY and DEMAND before populations reports means that demand runs the show and obviously millenials that grew up with NES far outnumber Gen X who grew up with Atari but the older generations are wealthier...time will tell but for those that witnessed the Golden Age, Silicon Valley art appears vastly undervalued compared to comics, cards, etc.

[@aleksejclerici]

Of course there is no even question about this. The 2 dollar is amazing too must say. Wow! I even now can't believe. Why could be possible? Noone ccoul even think to say the mario stuff.

[@Sinn0100]

Yeah, I completely agree with you here. You have not lost your mind the guy that bought Mario did. I do have a question I would like to ask you. You see, I'm a collector with an extensive collection. We have a spare bedroom dedicated to all things retro gaming. We typically buy to enjoy them and while it's nice to have value it doesn't matter much (anymore). Although...I might take advantage of this if the market for 2600-7800 games are white hot. I received a huge bin many years ago of complete games that just collect dust. At any rate, I have always been leary of the sealed games market as I simply don't trust it. Have you ever experienced anyone attempting to pass off a fake bill of sales? Perhaps someone that did some factory sealing on their own. I have witnessed thieves attempt to unload repro (Musha- GEN/US/1990) carts once to a friends shop and we caught them red handed. They were so close had we not opened them he might have purchased...well the Musha cart. You're passionate brother, don't ever apologize for that. If more people carried the same passion you do we would be in a much better place. ;)

[@achesontrading427]

how many games in your collection? how many boxes have 8 sharp corners and A, A+ or A++ factory sealing?

[@scott-bates]

Shawn, Would there be anyway to scan the pages of your book: How to Make the Most of Your Investments in Antiques and Collectibles? Then convert it over to a PDF? It appears that the book is no longer for sale anywhere. Maybe a garage sale find or thrift store? I've checked with the author and they got rid of all the copies they had back in 2011. It would be ridiculous to scan all the pages in the book, maybe just the important chapters? I don't expect you to actually do this, LOL. But, knowing a good place to find it would be nice. The only copy on Amazon is 70 dollars.

[@achesontrading427]

Scott, THANK YOU for the request, we would be happy to pay ten dollar for a Kindle version :)

[@ReservedInvestments]

I’m not the author and doing such would be highly illegal as a result...

[@scott-bates]

Reserved Investments I know, I wasn’t expecting anything to be scanned. Lol - The library is an option I suppose.

[@cocklord]

I recently sold a third print psa 10 base set charizard card for 2500 dollars, I think I did pretty good.

[@joshn2342323]

I sold my red cheeks pikachu 1st edition psa 10 for $700. I originally paid $7 for this card like 4 years ago and paid like 20 bucks to get it graded. Keep in mind this is a COMMON card. The big red flag to me is that there are now many people coming into the hobby that are only interested in "investing." Just looking for the next item to buy to flip 1-2 years later.

[@user-rs3ks8dg8c]

Christopher N I think there's only around 200 of those graded psa 10 though so it's not as common as you would think and the demand for the card is insanely high.

[@CatsGamesWhatever]

Atari carts in my local game shop are all priced between $1-$10 sit there unpurchased for years. I know because i bought some when i found a 2600 jr and wanted to try the system. There is no demand for these games even among video game collectors! I would be surprised if that sealed copy of pitfall even got bids of $100 in 10 years...

[@achesontrading427]

agreed that most collectors view games as carts, but investors view games as box art and the high prices are for 8 sharp corners as the presenter confuses the box grade with the sealing grade and game grade all sealed games have a 9.8 or 10.0 cart and manual but nobody mentions that... games are a dime a dozen manual are a $100 for 100 8 sharp cornered box arts = GOOD LUCK finding 30-40 yr. olds

[@SuperCandyy]

Is investing in MTG “Space Godzilla death corona” a good idea 💡

[@ReservedInvestments]

You mean speculating. The answer is no. There are tons of MTG cards that won’t be reprinted. That does not by itself, denote organic collectibility. Look at $1 reserved list cards...those are horrible ‘investments’ long term.

[@SuperCandyy]

Reserved Investments I was speculating that The cards name was going to get changed in definite also the card is Godzilla a very popular iconic monster and very collectible among collectors. Japan loves Godzilla I don’t think the franchise is going anywhere any time soon.

[@fan4life]

Can you give me a reason why you think the Pokemon market is being manipulated? I do agree the prices are outrages these days. A Base set 2 Charizard that you could have gotten for nothing 3 or 4 months ago sold for 9K+ which didn't make sense to me but that's how it ended

[@Odinoian]

18:28 for a split second I thought you yelled at someone entering the room! But yes, the past two months has been ridiculous... Well, let's hope the market has a bitch-slapping backlash sometime soon, washing away the hobby investors.

[@WirzWorld]

Not true...there are a TON of some sealed copies for sure but others are very difficult to find like Adventure, Superman, Mario Bros 83 first print, and more. There are not massive supplies of those and plenty of other titles. Told you it was coming months ago. :)

[@achesontrading427]

agreed that the populations for box art, manuals, inserts and carts are being misunderstood and sealed copies are really the only guarantee for getting a 9.8 or 10.0 cart, inserts and manual...raw carts on the other hand, seem to be more important to collectors and gamers whereas 8 sharp cornered box art is really is what's driving the investment community :) THANK YOU for telling us early...

[@mrvvednesday]

So, how insane is the 9.0 someone is trying to sell on ebay for 50k?

[@MarioMario-bl1fu]

Not gonna lie I just submitted my sealed Mario to wata!

[@KeyKiller74]

I think everyone is just a little loopy right now due to being stuck in quarantine time lol, there's no way anyone should be investing in Atari games new or old, there's a good reason why they faded out in the market. I also noticed crazy prices on Michael Jordan 1990's cards I'm pretty sure the Jordan documentary the last dance had many 90's collectors selling there cards & all the Timmy's jumping all over them like there the rarest cards on the planet lol, The moral of this store there's a fool in every hobby =) I love paper money seeing that crisp $2.00 Silver note cert put a smile on my face =) BTW, nice shirt I'm a huge fan of the Cure have few of there tour shirts when they came to my city.

[@achesontrading427]

a 1990 5th Appearance Jordan produced in the millions, is not the same as a 1st Appearance, 1st Franchise, 1st Genre Pioneer if 8 sharp cornered video game box artwork crosses the chasm between collecting to investing and 1st is respected like comics, cards, posters, etc.

[@unstoppableExodia]

Damn. If only I had stockpiled ultra cheap sealed Atari games in the nineties to sell on heritage auctions for an exorbitant profit to every timothy poindexter out there.

[@steveazusa]

Damn i wonder what a 9.9 graded turbografx 16 legend of hero tonma would sell for on heritage! Lol Jesus Christ

[@jedirun]

I would have taken that 9 grand and spent it on a rare numismatic gold coin lol SMH

[@brasscupholder6233]

Warehouses still holding sealed Sega Game Gear cartridges.

[@achesontrading427]

Game Gear has little historical artistic significance compared to 2600/NES, etc.

[@johncandy7982]

Everything that shine, ain't gold.

[@achesontrading427]

ONLY SUPPLY vs DEMAND can answer your Q: how many 9.2 Mario Boxes with A+ Factory Sealing assumed 10.0 Cart + 10.0 Manual + 10.0 inserts and inner cardboard, etc. will be revealed this summer by WATA's Population Report which can be accessed with a smart phone scan of the case vs how many billions of potential gamers want a piece of early Mario art (assuming the box and circuit board are art) vs how many of those Silver Certificates are graded 65 vs how many investors actually want that piece? Our analysis as of 5/11/2020 deduces that the video game art has a much lower supply in WATA 9.2 A+ 10.0 10.0 vs 10 to 100 times more potential demand if you include kids, females, global, etc. Baby Boomers have run the antiques and collectibles trades for decades, and this early video game art piece is the 1st example of a new generation of collectors just starting to invest. If early 2D comic books and sports cards can go for millions with a small demand base of primarily males older investors, we believe that 3D early Video Game art pieces that include 8 sharp cornered artworked boxes with 10.0 circuit boards, that sometimes require a team of 100s of artists, engineers, etc. to produce should meet and eventually surpass 2D art as Boomer demand fades. So with supply unknown until WATA's population reports, we can only say that the $35,000,000,000 in video game sales in 2019, indicate that the demand for gaming in general far exceeds collecting in most of the trade in terms of populations around the world including males, females, young, middle age, but maybe not wealthy Baby Boomers. So if this demand base does become wealthy, and future investors consider an early video game art piece on par with first edition comics or rookie cards, a first appearance like Mario, has the potential to reach towards five, six and maybe seven figures. If this shakes out as the Mario Rookie Card or 1st Appearance and/or 1st Printing, it could be a million dollar piece if the demand ramps up as millennials gain wealth out of this recession. We believe that the first million dollar early video game art piece will come sooner than that in the form of a...

[@neatuhfajita9128]

i don't disagree

[@MightyJabroni]

"We believe that the first million dollar early video game art piece will come sooner than that in the form of a..." And then it was Mario 64. Only to then half in price appreciation, two months after. Speculative frenzy is a bitch. XD

[@absoluteclownworld]

Sealed video games and even rare/uncommon opened games prices are stupid high.. pokemon stuff is even worse overall. It will all come crumbling down way before these "investors" see it coming.

[@xiaofuwu]

Much of the future wealth growth will occur in Parts of East Asia, India or parts of Africa. So if someone is looking for returns on modern collectible market, perhaps doing some research regarding what people in those countries like to collect will make more sense. I know rare Nike Jordan shoes have captivated a global collector audience. You never know, maybe someone will start a Sneaker grading company.

[@achesontrading427]

the final value fees on eBay (the global leader in the collectible trades) have a sneaker loophole that has fueled buying and selling because the cost of transactions has dropped to almost free on high end...once a platform moves towards free trading of video games, then the collecting hobby will turn into investing overnight, but in 2020, the costs for submitting, shipping, return shipping, selling fees, payment fees, promotion fees, postage, insurance, etc. prevents video game from captivating an audience like Michael Jordan has

[@jordanhilton1815]

Nobody is going to care about this game when plenty of people care about it right now to drive the price up to $9,000 and not every single person in the world only cares about reselling some people just want to own a graded copy of a video game which makes them happy

[@ParallelUniversity]

I'm sure the buyers are fake. If not, they are going to LOSE THEIR PROVERBIAL ASSES!

[@achesontrading427]

boxes, games, manuals and circuit boards are different products, with different types of artistic values with different production numbers, and the highest values all focus on the box, not games...agreed that carts and manuals have been produced in the tens of millions, but boxes with 8 sharp corners...GOOD LUCK :)

[@ParallelUniversity]

You and your 8 sharp corners... Give it a rest, man. Yes, you won't find games like this in everyone's attics, but they are out there. There are a small number of people sitting on stacks of these games in perfect condition. They are not going to flood the market with them, they are going to trickle them out so they seem rarer than they are.

[@jordanhilton1815]

You paid $2,500 for a $2 LOL

[@ggr8523]

I wish I could get financial advice from you but I doubt you know Canadian rules and Laws

[@glycineairman]

people are getting ripped the hell off by HA

[@achesontrading427]

not if 1st appearance 8 sharp cornered A sealed 10.0 carts + 10.0 manuals reach the status of a GCG 1st Appearance or PSA Rookie Card, etc. four or five figures could easily go 10x in the long run for the populations below 10...will know more Summer, 2020...

[@bathombre9739]

JP Morgan manipulates silver prices

[@comiccowboy]

I would hazard a guess that the demographics of coin collectors is primarily older white men w money. Video games while it has it’s flaws seems more diverse, at least in ages

[@ReservedInvestments]

Coins are a very advanced field, and you really can’t do anything in that market investment wise without spending thousands of dollars on one coin. As such, it is usually dominated by collectors who are slightly older...

[@achesontrading427]

the numerical WATA grade is for the BOX ONLY factory SEALING has NOTHING to do with the numerical grade

[@reniehandler2595]

Correct, but there is a separate letter grade for the seal

[@TopBikeMods]

Niche

[@docholidayproductions]

I do have a serious question with the release of PlayStation 5 just around the corner.. and a potential for the following generation of gaming becoming strictly digital will the value of physical games drastically increase? This is what I'm banking on. Physical games becoming highly sought-after and collectible.

[@xTHETRAINx]

This is the people that buy these graded games: channel45news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/6D7CC569-1203-4D89-B981-210AD8941B30.jpeg I see it time and time again and it's not going to end until people learn the hard way.

[@shobi_watchgrailclub6278]

CURRENCY

[@ganggreen1983]

Ew. Atari

[@aleksejclerici]

oh come on i cannot believe it is real! I mean fake bid and buyer. Eveyrbody knows there were and there are tons of atari stuff. Who cares about mario brothers for atari? It's like Zelda for CDI, i collect zelda, i've adventure majora set, all 17th main zeldas new and mostly graded ecc but never even searched for the cdi! Can't really believe

[@startyde]

It's always amazes me what a diverse range in taste the ignorant possess. Sealed Atari games have been plentiful and cheap for decades, but put a number on it and nowwwwww it's a must have

[@achesontrading427]

what % of those "plentiful Atari game" box arts do you think have 8 sharp corners with no imperfections?

[@roccojoco]

Great video, but be aware that you are potentially involved in price fixing, which violates antitrust laws. There's no getting around this when competitors work as a "group" to do anything that ultimately affects the price of something. Ask your lawyer.

[@ReservedInvestments]

www.google.com/amp/s/mikebrandlyauctioneer.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/price-fixing-at-auction/amp/ In order to price fix, you have to manipulate the sale price...or place fake bids.

[@roccojoco]

@@ReservedInvestments It's much more complex than that. All I will say is horizontal collusion can get you into trouble and you shouldn't make legal assumptions based on internet research. Talk to an antitrust lawyer.

[@ReservedInvestments]

I have a legal team, my friend!

[@Balding187]

Wata is fake news

[@achesontrading427]

do you think comics and cards should go for millions? why not pristine 40 year old box arts? the carts and manuals have little value...

[@Kgrtyiirdsg]

You may have been right…

[@ReservedInvestments]

May? 😳 The evidence is quite obvious…