More Than Just A Snowbird: the story of the Canadair CT-114 Tutor

[@radarmike6713]

As a former RCAF member. The Tute is that little kid at the event no one respects till they realize how old and how great she flys and performs. All Canadian made airframes just seem to wanna fly and keep working for their aircrews. The Tute and 100 are proof we Canadians know how to build and be apart of the aviation world

[@zakstev]

So true! Just a thought; alternatively to "The Toot" nickname, I submit, "The Toque." ( for Americans, it means the same thing as a 'beanie.')

[@cryptohunt2552]

They need to be replaced. The BAE Hawk would be ideal for the Snow Birds.

[@tjmcguire9417]

Sorry bub. The real proof was The Arrow.

[@russelldawkins3408]

I flew the Tutor in 1965/66 in training at Moose Jaw and I remember the positive G limit as 9.33, not 7. Perhaps that was reduced as the airframes aged, but I remember pinning both needles of the G-meter, going into the red both plus and minus, when encountering a pocket of turbulence south of Moose Jaw. The meter showed the maximum positive and negative Gs the airframe had been exposed to since last reset, and only the ground crew could reset it. Bringing it back with the G-meter pegged like that required a ground inpection. I also remember routinely pulling 9G on initial entry into a vertical 8 when practicing aerobatics. Incidentally, the wings were held on cleverly with a single bolt through two tapered main spar ends which crossed each other in a rectangular housing through the fuselage. Simple, safe and effective design. The aircraft was a real treat to fly. I remember being impressed with the aileron and elevator control feel-zero discernable slack or stiction. A quality machine.

[@davidcarter6737]

Very interesting, was their any concerns with spinning and the high T-tail, as seen with other aircraft? Thanks.

[@russelldawkins9094]

@@davidcarter6737 No, recovering from spins was part of the standard course procedure. Recovery was easy and predictable thanks to good aerodynamic design, particulary the adequate empennage and control surface area and decent leverage afforded by the long coupling (decent distance from control surfaces to C of G). I've done hammerhead stalls, no problem-o, with the airspeed indicator at zero. Glide ratio was very good for a jet, too. The T-33, by contrast, which was the advanced trainer at that time, was a marginal design due to too-small empennage (typical of a lot of older designs) and large gyroscopic effect of the large, heavy, centrifugal flow compressor of the Rolls Royce Nene 10 engine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q528kJetZa2on5Y We were not allowed to practice spins in the T-33; it was too dangerous, potentially resulting in a 'tumble', which was an out of control random tumbling through the air which was difficult if not impossible to eject from, due to the extreme G-forces encountered by the pilot making moving the arms almost impossible.

[@CanadianGrenadian]

Great info thanks bro

[@tjmcguire9417]

And this is what the Snowbirds are still flying. I appreciate your education, but for today, 2024, this is shameful.

[@rochleveille8701]

@@tjmcguire9417 I work on that beast as a airframe Tec for 8 years, it's build like a tank. The dry air of the prairies help to. Now that there is no more student to ruff it up it's should survive and still show what canadian built mean.

[@duartesimoes508]

Regrettably a Tutor from the Snowbirds was lost a few weeks ago, causing the death of one of the crewman, a female Captain. As often in cases like this many people rushed to blame the age of the aircraft involved, but the accident was due to a bird strike just after departure. The crew did eject, but at very low altitude and with the aircraft about 90 degrees nose down. Poor conditions for a safe ejection; even Dan Cooper would have had no chance. So sad.

[@ramspace]

I also enjoyed reading Dan Cooper. That was the joy of being a kid. I also read too many Michel Vaillant, the race car driver

[@davidcarter6737]

I wouldn't blame the aircraft, which seems a great design, but would be reluctant to eject from it with the age of the seat design. It's probably cost prohibitive to put in a newer design of seat.

[@MrMASSEYJONES]

I was sitting in the right seat of 002 and we had a bird strike on takeoff from Montreal’s St Hubert airport, while I was stationed at Canadair with the RCAF. I remember a fleet of seagulls hitting the starboard wing and one hitting the windscreen with a loud thud. After that, I always wore the visor down, except when filming, which was my job in the right seat. We aborted the flight and inspection determined no damage to the engine, so we took offf again. (Using an aka for privacy)

[@aspalovin]

subbed. great vid. I am going to be sad to the point of sickness when the snowbirds retire the CT-114. I love the look of it so much and have watched them faithfully since the '70's. I know people freak out when there is an accident or failure but these planes are incredibly well maintained and anyone that cares about the team and isn't just finger pointing and complaining would know that. This type of flying is inherently risky and every snowbird pilot is a national treasure.

[@butterygoodness8242]

aspalovin I agree, BUT the RCAF needs new Jets, because the CF-18’s are too old and are barely capable to fly. The government wants to buy F-35’s BUT it would be a HUGE boost to morale and be a dream come true if they rebuild the Avro Arrow. Plus the Avro Arrow is 2x better than the F-35, EVEN TO TODAYS STANDARDS! it: *Is 2x faster than the F-35, can hold 2x more fuel, AND the most surprising.... 100 Avro Arrows 20 year warrantee would cost 12B and 65 F-35’s 20 year warrantee would cost 25B almost 2x more!*

[@RedXlV]

@@butterygoodness8242 The last time the Canadian government wanted the F-35 was when Harper was still PM. Theoretically, Lockheed Martin is still offering the F-35, but it seems far more likely that either the Boeing F/A-18E Super Hornet (because the RCAF prefers twin engines, and the easier conversion for CF-18 pilots since they cockpit is identical) or the Saab JAS 39 E Gripen (because of its lower operating costs) will be the CF-18 replacement.

[@omgpix]

@@butterygoodness8242 Canada's Arrow fetishization (and I say this as a Canadian) has led to some seriously warped thinking. The Arrow barely had a place when it was being developed, it certainly doesn't have one now. It was a great plane for its time but that time has passed. It's performance has been met and exceeded by other aircraft. There's a reason the design hasn't been revisited in almost 70(!) years by Canada or its friends and competitors. And it isn't just the Arrow, the entire category is a thing of the past. Your cost 'analysis' is also warped because you're not taking into account the fact that no one builds the thing anymore, we'd be essentially be recreating the plane -- and all the tooling to build and support it -- from scratch, an astronomical cost. There are important things than flying high and fast, and it neither flew the highest or the fastest, even with an engine upgrade. If that's all that mattered The Mig 25 would be the world's premiere fighter.

[@trebizond790]

How you can apologise for the quality and then produce something that is superior in quality to most 'professional' output is probably the reason I've subscribed :)

[@acesians4652]

i don’t understand how people dont seem to watch your videos, im literally enjoying all of them

[@simonrancourt7834]

Wow ! I subscribed to your channel after watching this video, without even having a look at your other videos. And BOY, was I right or what ? Your video titles look so interesting, especially if they all made with the same attention to detail and extensive research as that one. I'm gonna have a ball watching them all. And imt hi na share several on several FB aviation groups I'm in. Expect more views and subscribers. I already shared this video on about half a dozen FB aviation groups.

[@J69-y2d]

in 2017 i stepped outside my Pompano beach Fl office to see a snowbird performing slow tight turn right above us...he was fairly low and i was enthralled...thanks

[@Blowinshiddup]

Just one correction note- the seats are not "zero-zero". I believe the current spec is 60kts and 90 ft altitude are minimum. It is an unfortunate factor in the recent fatal accident.

[@johnclark2311]

Fantastic work! Excellent!

[@rudijoris9555]

I'v finally found a good channel on Canadian aviation !! Thanks a lot!. And R.I.P. Capt.Jenn Casey, an inspiration to so many.

[@balsumfractus]

Wow! Very well done documentary! This is the first one I watched, and I see there are many more!!!

[@nemrav5645]

Great video as always! I've learned plenty from your cold war era video. 2 Things I would be interested in seeing would be the argus (had a family member who flew on it), and the Canadian car and foundry FDB-1 biplane fighter aircraft (fairly obscure, would like to see what you could find on it). A third plane that might interest you is the lancaster mk.10 O, a canadian lancaster which mounted 2 orenda engines for testing purposes. Have a great day!

[@ramspace]

Such a great video that it made me subscribe to your channel.

[@simonrancourt7834]

Me too. I want MORE !

[@rocksnot952]

We had Tutors in Montana al the time. It had some handy compartments for cigarette smuggling.

[@aspalovin]

Ha, that's funny. I was shocked at the luggage space in one of these lil suckers the first time I saw it.

[@ramspace]

It was good for cheap American booze The custom guys eventually tuned into it.

[@royalcityjazz]

Well done son, you're doing fine work here that compares quite favourably to what there is to be seen out of the official archives in Ottawa. From depth of research through to choice of music and eye for the cut, these pieces of yours stand quite taller than your view counts. Please continue.

[@jeffedwards2444]

My brother did training in the Tudor in Moose Jaw. I still remember him flying one to Toronto on his first solo and all of us checking out the cockpit. It seemed ancient even then, still very impressive though.

[@ramspace]

Flying on instruments kept our eyes cross checking those 9 gauges continuously. What a great way to excel in IMC.

[@judgedredd8657]

I'd love to see an argus video

[@balsumfractus]

Meanwhile, the NFB did one on the Argus...... kzbin.info/www/bejne/amOXoIt4a5Jnars

[@balsumfractus]

Polyus Studios well, I certainly look forward to it. My civilian flight instructor was an Argus commander...lots of memories of getting woke up with the whole house shaking and windows rattling as they left on patrol at oh-dark-hundred.......

[@shinjofox]

Great Videos. I hope you are planning one on the HCMS Bras d'Or.

[@lessharratt8719]

@@polyus_studios Looking forward to that.

[@intercommerce]

Had the Snowbirds right over my building in Toronto on Labour Day, 2021 for two days a couple of weeks ago....6 or 7 make a thunderous roar despite their size & single sub-sonic engines; I kept hearing them but they were too quick to see them, until I saw the team do a perfect loop leaving a white smoke circle...still cool after 52 years!

[@Wilge_Zomer]

you sooo need more subs

[@dabeardoesstuff5412]

I feel lucky to have the opportunity to sit inside of one at the Canadian warplane heritage museum in Hamilton

[@BenAhmed67]

Tebuans served the RMAF well...👍

[@raynus1160]

Wow. Keep these coming please.

[@StudioMudprints]

It was surreal to see the little CT-114 carrying such a menacing weapons load. I know a lot about our planes, but I sure didn't know about that.

[@CDNGeographer]

A very good video. Thanks for making it.

[@davidk2906]

Excellent video on the icon Canadair Tudor. Thanks.

[@falconeaterf15]

Most excellent interview with a former Snowbirds pilot was done by Fighter Pilot Podcast. Learned much about flying the Tudor through a Snowbirds show.

[@Bikerbob59]

Great info. Never knew about the ground attack version.

[@bert26a]

What a great aircraft its too bad Ottawa has little respect for our military. I hope something changes for the better soon. If you have time and because you've done such great work on these videos maybe do a video about another great Canadian invention the water bomber. The CL-215 and the CL-415 have saved my home town twice from out of control forest fires over the years.

[@johnandrews3568]

the four most iconic Canadian aircraft... the Arrow, the Beaver, the Otter and the CL-215/415

[@simonrancourt7834]

Correction : this year, is the Snowbirds' 50th season. They've been flying the Tutor from day one. The Tutor was used by their 1967 predecessors, the Golden Centenaires.

[@optimuschucky8928]

I really enjoy these videos! Thanks for this

[@biskit_lmao7780]

i'm lived close to RMAF (Royal Malaysian Air Forces) Kuantan base....everytimes i passed the base,i always see the CL-41G Tebuan static display on base entrance...

[@StartToContinue]

FYI there is a Tutor in Centennairs livery indoors at the museum at Base Bordon, Ont

[@xairman565]

There was one at Portage la Prairie, I don’t know if it’s still there. I heard it had been moved, but never got there to check it out.

[@tallguy8452]

Excellent

[@springtime1838]

Remember seeing the snowbirds here in Anchorage at Elmendrotf AFB in the early 90s along with a CL-30(T-33) and i belive i was really young a CF-18A or B

[@canadaehxplained77]

If you loved this video - and want to learn more about the history of the Snowbirds and the 431 Air Demonstration Squadron - check out our video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHrIgoGQmbqLhbM

[@patpeterson2671]

Awesome video ...

[@JamesJoyce12]

I don't think the Tut ever had a 0/0 ejection seat.

[@leaarinwarkentine]

Actually, it does, according to Canadianflight.org. But I've also seen an article on the Vancouver Star's website, which says they were using the old Weber ACES system, and DND won't confirm either way.

[@joshpeace2002]

what is the music used in your channel?

[@Icanhasautomaticcheeseburger]

I love how all of the small jet trainers -- T-2, T-37, T-38, Saab 105, the Toot -- all used versions of the J85. Want a slow trainer? Stick with one engine. Wanna train astronauts and chase experimental planes -- or have a cute little day fighter in the CF-5 -- stuff in two and give them afterburners. However, when they switch to the CF-18 they can finally get some "street cred" from the pointy-nose Mach snots south of the border...

[@coldgold49]

LOL at 19:13 they taxi off but the start cart door is still open.

[@MattyBeniers10Fan]

Wow The CL41G was tested in NB that’s where I live

[@billestew7535]

It would make a lot more sense using the ct155 as snowbird aircraft, they are the training aircraft that potential pilots will be using and if cost is the issue then maybe the Harvard 2 at least these aircraft are in the inventory nonetheless love the tutor such a great Canadian aircraft

[@nickvandergragt653]

It is a tiny thing n an otherwise wonderful video, but the Bras D'ore was HMCS, not HCMS. Other than that, just drop the metric measurement units and accept my congratulations on a great job bringing our aerial history to life.

[@benrakus4912]

aren't the ejection seats 0/60 ejection seats? thats what I understood after the tragic loss of Capt Jenn

[@michaelkostiuk1009]

Everything I ever wanted to know about a Tutor except, where do I get one to play with.

[@ksxx]

Great Videos. Can you tell me the name of the background song? Thank you.

[@maxant4285]

And please stop using it!

[@ramspace]

Funny.

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

9:11 Stabby boy.

[@wombatwilly1002]

Still think the Arrow should've went ahead.

[@CanadianGrenadian]

Never had a zero seat

[@sheldonvandal6895]

Is there a reason that you use metric measurements? I am sure it helps my math skills, but it is a bit annoying.

[@johnandrews3568]

Uh, because he's Canadian, talking about Canadian aircraft. We use metric in the Great White North, eh.

[@sheldonvandal6895]

@@johnandrews3568 We do, but not when it applies to aircraft and aviation.

[@sheldonvandal6895]

Did your last Air Canada Captain announce that you would be cruising at 10,668 meters?

[@jameson1239]

@@sheldonvandal6895 in terms of the actual design is probably in metric, building I’m not sure, and in terms of Flying it’s Knots Nautical miles and Feet

[@lexthy286]

The ejection seat is definitely NOT 0/0 capable. Where does your information com from? Not so long ago, unsatisfactory actual ejection, severely injured the pilot and killed the observer.

[@PointyTailofSatan]

China! Russia! Fear us! lol

[@andrewspurway3027]

Turn off the Efing music!

[@sblack48]

Tail wing? Tail rudder? Seriously?

[@davec9399]

Speak up. Cant hear you over the music.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

Its sad when tiny countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland have far better aircraft for their airforce than Canada, which is 4-5x their size by population. The tutor should have been retired and replaced 20 years ago. Its a flying death trap at low energy states.

[@carlopio2705]

Use them as trainors nothing more , the uk red arrows,the u.s blue angels and thunderbirds are all supersonic except our snowbirds !!!!! Come on

[@jameson1239]

And? for an air show maximum speed doesn’t mean much stall speed, turn rate, AOA, and control authority are more important in terms of maneuvers not to mention in most places you can’t go supersonic as it breaks noise laws

[@stevevassallo4323]

The cello music is horrible.

[@flyboynextdoor]

As a Canadian and a professional pilot I find the CT-114 embarrassing. good video though

[@eat_a_dick_trudeau]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tone down the music. It is far too loud, and the fussy arrangements make it really hard to concentrate on what you are saying.

[@aidenschultz1981]

As a 531 tech in Moosejaw Sk, I worked on literally every Tutor in this video. It was certainly a good little plane and a pleasure to work on.

[@spitfirenutspitfirenut4835]

431. Not 531.

[@odinjames0]

Criminally Under-subbed Channel. Great work man!

[@johnwilliamsbr]

This is excellent. Please keep making these.

[@dodaexploda]

Absolutely excellent video. Thank you for presenting this information. It's something most Canadians wouldn't know about and a part of our heritage.

[@dodaexploda]

@@polyus_studios That's a great memory to have.

[@Portugais3000]

bro, you should have more and more likes !

[@1silvervespa]

tebuan Wasp .... Interesting . Wasps do like to attack in numbers.

[@DarrellLarose]

I don't think the CT-114 was ever fitted with a zero:zero ejection seat

[@teegee7484]

When first selected for installation, the ROCAT seat was believed to be Zero-Zero. Later on, accident investigations and further testing led to a published Zero-60 rating.

[@34500dauphin]

@@teegee7484 have you seen last crash of Snowbird tutor? ejection seat was out of ejection domain?

[@Robinallenyukon]

it's a sad day (05/17/20) as we have lost a pilot Capt. Jennifer Casey and another one of these fantastic planes !

[@kellybreen5526]

I found this channel last night and am enjoying every episode.

[@bobbydouzepis8260]

Well done sir.

[@ryanvargas4889]

These videos are tastefully done with so much justice to Canadian aviation history. Always a great production on your channel.

[@polyus_studios]

Glad you like them!

[@thetileguy1492]

I worked on this two ton dog wistele form 1969 to 1977 when I went Flight Engineer, great little a/c to work on and fly.

[@drxmondo]

Well done. They felt old when I flew them 30 years ago but were great trainers and fun to fly.

[@kaboom-zf2bl]

they are 1 year older than me ... and Im 59 ... funnier the Avro Arrow is 70 years old in 2023 ... and it still is a contender for the f22 and f35 using such old tech .... now we get overpriced american stuff that has problems with it's oxygen system flight handling low engine service time ... and excessive price tag ... and it doesnt even meet the AIR7.3 spec the Arrow was designed to ... (the arrow met that spec using the wrong engines too ... missing only the over mach 2 performance of the Iroquois PS-13 engine)

[@MurdochGuitar]

I went to the Aviation Museum in Edmonton last month. I mentioned it would be cool if there was a Tutor on display in the Malaysian light attack configuration. They had no clue what I was talking about. I had to Google it to show them I wasn't crazy.

[@birgerkagan6087]

Moose Jaw 1971. I remember that spin recovery in the Tutor did not increase a students self confidence. The average student could recover within 2-4 rotations by applying the proper technique - 1-2 rotation by letting go the controls and have the aircraft recover by itself

[@wc6975]

great video and history. well done.

[@johneddy908]

Today Canadair is part of Bombardier Aerospace and its line of business jets - Challenger and Global - are among the tops in their field.

[@nick4506]

ya know single engine and stright wing means that this qualifies for the jet class of the reno air races. how does this compare to the l39?

[@kevintaylor791]

The bit about the ejection seats is inaccurate. The Tutor, to this day, does not have zero-zero seats.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

As i say after seemingly everyone of your videos, it’s a real shame Canada is no longer a player in advance aerospace design and manufacturing. No, one new Canadarm every decade or two isn’t sufficient to make up for fact that Canadian companies no longer make any cutting edge military aircraft. Canada could have been leader in light jet aircraft such as trainers and light strike/attack jets, leveraging our existing industry and manufacturing history. Instead the RCAF stuck with 40 year old BAE Hawk and is forced to contract privately owned jet trainers built in European countries that we used to sell modern fighter jets to.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

Canada should get back into the military aircraft industry. They don't have to restrict themselves to American products.

[@StartToContinue]

I was bused by CFB Mountain View everyday on my way to high school and strained to see the varied airframes that would take turns parked on the tarmac, tutors included! Also an Argus was marooned there for YEARS until it was finally moved down the road to the RCAF Museum attached to CFB Trenton, where I could finally get up close and walk around that giant. Can't wait to see your vid on that machine!

[@rduff1999]

Finally someone has verified that I'm not having imaginive dreams. I have watched several videos about the Tudors without any mention of them being in Mountainview. While I was stationed at Trenton Ontario, a group of us were involved in preparing Tudors for storage at Mountainview. Fond memories of sitting in them while removing the electronic equipment.

[@tiamatxvxianash9202]

Thank You for this video on this iconic aircraft. Certainly for myself. I served as an IET 551 from 1979 to 99. Other than 3 years in Baden on fighters, I spent the rest of my career on Sea Kings, fairly evenly split timewise between Shearwater and Pat Bay. Nevertheless a number of our aircraft trades that went through school on TQ (Trade Qualification) 3 in Borden over these years, did a major portion of technical(fault finding, aka snags) training on the Tutor. It was the aircraft that ALL tech trades learned to Marshall, Refuel etc. No matter where we went from after graduation, all of us had come into contact with the Tutor. It was our touchstone of introduction to the aviation world. Of note. Upon TQ 3 graduation, I went to Shearwater and my 3 roommates from the barracks went to North Bay (Falcon's), Summerside (Argus) and Moosejaw (Tutors). My great friend that went to Moose Jaw ended up on the Snowbirds for 1983, 84. Additionally, a very young Fighter pilot newly arrived in Baden with 421 squadron, now reactivated with F-18's in the summer of 1986 would become my left winger on the Squadron hockey team. This most noble young pilot would in later years become the white gloved "lead" on Snowbirds amongst his other higher attainments. Meeting him at an airshow during the Portland Rose Festival in 1994 we caught up on news and passed around the congratulations. There was the usual "no way" "your kidding" "still playing hockey?" etc. But when I found out he'd married my old Shearwater roommate's ex-wife whom was at my wedding in 1983; it was like....."Oh"

[@xairman565]

There was no type course for the Tutor. When you got to Moose Jaw, you were considered to already have had training on the Tutor.

[@ramspace]

Great story. Good ol' memories.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Basically a flying museum piece

[@f1matt]

Absolutely gorgeous little jet.

[@johnnoble01]

I'm from the UK and I've always liked the the look of the tutor. A great looking aircraft.

[@elliotsearle207]

Beautifully narrated and flawless all around.

[@cheyennereynoso4116]

Man, this is my new favorite channel. I love aviation. My dream is too own my own plane one day. I’ve never flown but I will one day.

[@TylerDouglas100]

Awesome job. But are you sure the current Tutors have 0/0 ejection seats? I’m relatively certain they don’t which is one of the reasons for the most recent Snowbird fatality.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Buddy of mine liked to tell curious foreigners that the air data probe was for shooing moose off the runway.

[@BBHC2012]

Hi, I really like your videos. They are well produced and educational. Great subject matter as well. I would like to suggest: - PLEASE get the aircraft part names correct. It us not a "Tail Wing" it is the "Horizontal Stabilizer ". The vertical tail is made up of the fixed "Fin" and the movable " Rudder". Not the "finrudder". These descriptive errors detract from your narration and brings overall accuracy into question. Lastly, in regards to this video on the CL-41 / CT-114, I am unaware that auxiliary fuel tanks could be installed on the wingtips. I believe they were installed under the fuselage only. Thanks!!!

[@gold8664]

RCAF is replacing the CF-18 with a European jet that won vs Boeing & another company since they will be slowly replacing the hornets the Canadian Government should sell to snowbirds get 15 CF-18 or super hornets for new snowbirds

[@airborne63]

I've flown the A-37 in South America, where they are still in service. I'd LOVE to try the CT-114.

[@pastorrich7436]

Hitting like without watching. CT-114 is a no brainer! Now to watch and enjoy. Christmas cheers!!

[@florentmagen5993]

I love this plane!! A little marvel! Message from France 😊

[@christophercomeau4905]

The background music is too loud!

[@MrMASSEYJONES]

In the 1970s, I flew in the right seat of Tutor 114002 for a few hours daily; while at Canadair in Montreal with rhe RCAF, chasing the CX-84 (CL-84) then undergoing test flights. The control stick was taken out; that I could move around a bit and not impede flight controls, while holding an Arriflex cine camera.