How Stellantis Destroyed Jeep

[@GizzyDillespee]

The boss took home 40 million dollars by destroying the company. Congratulations.

[@w__a__l__e]

he "optimized" it

[@chiapets2594]

No we don't. The govt needs to get their act together and the ppl need to force that on them and the companies​@@RealShaktimaan

[@X9523-z3v]

Hustlers destroy whatever environment they mooch from

[@Belynda]

We are Jeep lovers and buy them older and fix them !! 👍🏻

[@Fancysymbol]

@@chiapets2594 that's what the Chinese cars would do, the government is actively trying to prevent that by imposing tariffs. The CEO of Ford is driving a Chinese car and has publicly stated he doesn't want to switch back to American made😂 so ofc the government plans to make sure no American could afford one over a US clunker

[@orsmplus]

funny how stellantis owns every single brand I would never, ever possibly spend my own money on

[@Cuzoned]

FORD: Found On Rubbish Dump

[@kingdeedee]

⁠@@Cuzoned FORD: Found On the Road Dead

[@Ryosuke-12]

What abt 50k dodge challenger

[@joeybleu66]

that's them exactly

[@kota3233]

@@JackFromWyoming Remember how those companies paid back the United States with interest?

[@CellaDragon]

“Customers want affordability” Also $100,000k Jeep Wagoner “Affordability” my ass

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

Customers don’t want affordability. Nissan versa, Kia forte, Volkswagen Jetta exist but too many people buy overpriced trucks and SUVs so manufacturers are encouraged to make them more expensive to maximize profits

[@tmy8711]

Hard to stay in touch with the average consumer when you make 40 million...

[@Rapscallion2009]

"Affordable" here meaning that the average prole can sign up the finance over the next 6-10 years and subsist on ramen.

[@am529]

I want to know who’s buying these. I don’t know a single person with a car who has newer than a 2018 model year.

[@danielantonio1635]

its comparable to the cadillac escalade, you don’t buy an escalade because it’s affordable

[@Paulco67]

The boss takes home $40M. What a morally bankrupt crook.

[@plinko84]

Maybe he'll be adjusted too...

[@pandastacy]

Aren't they all. We all remember what happened to last greedy fat cat...

[@vincedelapena]

"Hey Luigi. Come look at this."

[@joeeoj6187]

I’ll forgive him for $1 million

[@HRady-v8i]

A conglomerate of 6 barely functioning companies. Sounds like a great business plan

[@OnTheAir]

Yes, lots of forward thinking...Anything for a fast buck for stockholders.

[@kdizzystl]

They are all iconic brands. What a shame they're being run into the ground.

[@charlesr7690]

I guess if you are the 40 million dollar CEO it is. Especially if he gets fired, his golden parachute will be more than that.

[@pablorages1241]

The Alphabet company

[@strike9716]

no company that big could possibly run very well at all.

[@harvardfootball]

A Grand Wagoneer high trim hitting $110K is wild just get a Porsche at that point

[@19godfather93]

Not just wild, it's insane. If I had a 100 Gs to blow on an SUV, what's stopping me from getting a Cayenne at that point? The base trim is definitely less than $100k. So, Jeep is aware that the person buying that high trim isn't a car guy, he's a Jeep guy. And Stellantis aims to shaft him out of $110k. What a great business strategy, morons.

[@marcusvision]

Lol that soo true. Can get a macan or Q8 from audi

[@Youtubepoiuytre]

Pretty sure Porsche also has a higher reliability rating among multiple sources too, lol.

[@princeali316]

I'm a former Euro tech and you are 1000% correct. At $110,000 I would buy a Porsche, Audi, BMW or Lexus. The quality on either of those is going to be ions ahead of any American car. At $110,000+ budget I would look at Porsche.

[@princeali316]

@@KZbinpoiuytre They do. Porsche scores very high in the realm of real luxury cars. Lexus is excellent too but they don't really compare in the same league if styling/driving traits are your main priority. With $110,000 you could go buy a used Porsche and used Lexus... at the same time.

[@slohmann1572]

CEOs thinking of short-term goals only, then running away with millions after ruining the company. Disgusting.

[@shedwork]

Boeing same

[@michielshub]

Sorry, but this short term profit focus will increase more and more with these large investment companies stepping in. If profits are not high enough they simply force the management out as a major shareholder and get a more short term focussed person in. This is what modern capatalism has evolved too and it will get worse, not better.

[@saracellucci176]

It's not CEOs, it's private capital. Wealthy shareholders demand this, CEOs are just giving them what they want. It's more profitable for them to strip the copper wires out of the walls than to invest in a good house that lasts, and until something changes we're all living in their mess.

[@Seeker3876]

They still have learned nothing from Japanese methods.

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@michielshub"modern capitalism" No it's called fascism. It's exactly what happens when you continue to vote for the same goons that do nothing and allow monopolies to exist, and not only exist, to operate at an extremely aggressive pace of absorbing anything and everything they can. I mean hell, Black Rock owns every politician across the globe effectively, but yeah,let's blame the people doing a money grab and bailing immediately because they see what's happening. Keep voting the same way, surely this time will be different, for realzies!

[@matthewsamelian860]

Knew someone who did engineering work for Chrysler in the early 2000s. They were so appalled by their tolerances and lack of quality they vowed to never buy a Chrysler product. This news story is a tale as old as time. Those in the know about cars know that quality at chrysler dodge jeep has been spotty at best for decades.

[@platinumuschannel]

Used to make gas tanks under the same roof for both Honda and Chrysler. Locking rings and seals used to keep the pump modules in the tank would be thrown out by Honda if they had to be taken off of a tank for any reason at all, such as reworking (bad module, air leak, contamination, etc.), but Chrysler would use them. Granted, I now know it wouldn't make much of a difference there, but if they skimped on the parker seals and locking rings, where else will they skimp?

[@asatrv]

New dodge chargers are still based on the w210 E-class, right?

[@floofdecat]

Lots of companies ignore quality concerns or only want a QA/QC department so they can ignore it or control it to give the appearance of quality when no actual testing or QA is happening.

[@nErfEr308]

They put shareholders first and the paying customers last. Who on earth would pay $70k+ for an SUV???

[@Carl_dev]

People who buy $100k+ Benz, BMW or Audi SUVs. Trouble is, those people expect German quality, but Jeep gives you less bang for your buck nowadays.

[@Gobbldeegoo1]

A plastic suv at that lol

[@---jt5wg]

The dealerships teach their sellers to 100000% always upsell every single person that walks through the door thinking they want a regular car into an SUV. SUV is a total waste of space and doesn't even have meaning compared to what it was thirty years ago. If i want to haul kids I'll get a minivan, if I want to save gas I get an electric little dinky car. SUV is probably their highest profit margin of all vehicles.

[@jakobhahn8043]

It really doesn’t make sense though. If an investor wants to see long term growth, having a good reputation with customers is important. If they get fucked over, they wouldn’t buy a Jeep again. It’s just so much harder to see reputational damage in contrast to direct profits

[@jkgkj00]

*for a shitty suv from a shitty brand 70k is pretty low for an suv

[@smallbutdeadly931]

0:48 unlike Toyota, where supposedly any worker on the assembly line can stop the production line if they detect a defect or abnormality

[@viceshark]

My first thought too. Jidoka. I love Toyota.

[@BPBomber]

And it’s such a good policy, we have copied “Stop The Line” and Jidoka into industries like healthcare.

[@Pekkari6969]

We had that when I worked at Volvo Trucks Sweden. Its such a great way to identify and improve quality issues

[@waylonk2453]

@@Pekkari6969 Is Volvo trucks still Swedish owned, unlike their cars division?

[@tycobandit]

I work at Toyota Manufacturing of Texas. The moment a defect is detected at any point in the assembly process by a line worker an “andon” pull takes place by that line worker and the whole place comes to a dead stop after all line buffers are full. Depending on the severity of the defect the line is either idled until the defect is resolved by finding the root cause and correcting it, or the line is restarted and the defect is corrected in quarantine after final assembly before the vehicle ships. After the defect is corrected they also intensely monitor the process that caused the defect for 100 vehicles to confirm the defect has been resolved.

[@alphawolffff]

Dealer tech here. This is a surprisingly good video. Stellantis has cost-cut the entire US market. They fired engineers, plant workers, and made suppliers go somewhere else. We have insanely overpriced, unreliable vehicles, built by people who no longer care as they're being let go left and right. The engineers have been almost completely replaced by low cost country workers who have a fraction of the US engineering experience and it shows on our products. Do an investigation into all the problems with the Wrangler 4XE if you want to see how far this rabbit hole goes. Total piles of shit being sold for 60k+.

[@samiam5557]

Stellantis wanted to kill off Dodge/Chrysler from the minute the bought it, that was the plan. To remove competition for their EURO brands.

[@rohan_3128]

They doing this in Europe too, laying off workers, selling cars at higher prices and all that stuff while caring about nothing

[@johnhoyle6390]

Recently had a 2-week rental of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I was thrilled when I first saw it. Didn't take long to have starting issues, transmission shifting issues. Now I avoid Jeep.

[@dps6198]

​@@johnhoyle6390 That's the best way to determine if you should buy a particular brand. Rent one for a week it'll be money well spent.

[@spellablename6099]

Yeah, the company has been almost completely hiring contract engineers from India because they can pay them like 30k instead of 80-100k, and then they usually replace them when their visa runs out unless they are really good or have made the proper connections. In that case, they remain hired and are usually sponsored for a green card.

[@XTRABIG]

As a kid in the 80s my dad told me "when it comes time for you to own a car- buy American". He had no idea of the decline about to take place within the American auto industry.

[@patty109109]

The American car industry is overall much better than it used to be.

[@XTRABIG]

@@patty109109 how so?safety improvements, mpg, emissions reductions not withstanding, The quality and reliability of American autos routinely rank at the bottom. Ford leads in recalls every year. They just initiated a recall for 300,000 F150s. But I'd like to hear your thoughts.

[@Stephster11]

When she said that she's not allowed to stop the assembly line for defects. Then she said some of the vehicles rolling off the line look like they've been on the road for several years. That's SO eye opening and something consumers and the company itself should take seriously.

[@daniellang6112]

And comedians!😂

[@ljaysperspective1775]

It's unfortunate, but the consumer became an enabler of Stallantis. It never made sense to purchase a vehicle at 110k, but consumers did it anyway, not because consumers needed the car but because they wanted it. Which is fine, but enable a junkie and they will be back for more! In my opinion, stallantis can keep their brand. In 100 years, none of us will be here anyway, and you won't be taking your car with you! 👍

[@muddynmonte]

Sounds a lot like Boeing

[@Maven1999]

Almost every manufacturer does it. I worked for GM and now for a Forklift conpany, and they both push stuff out and then fix it on the backend. I guess it's cheaper to keep product moving and fix it later.

[@Seadweller451D]

Same SOP with the production of the Plymouth Volare. 😂

[@d.vanwinkle9482]

When a Chrysler employee says we’re not building them like we used to they’ve got a horrendous problem. Because the vehicles they used to build were the lowest quality in the market. And they are building LOWER quality now? No more bailouts.

[@sam-ww1wk]

Exactly. They've always been the biggest pieces of shit since I was a kid,,, and I'm 50. I have an 03 Tundra with 280k and still going strong, work, play, travel. Jeeps are a joke.

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@sam-ww1wk My Cherokee has more miles and is an 88 still ,works ,plays travels. Was just up in snow getting the Christmas tree pushing bumper deep snow,spent a week in the Owyhee in the middle of nowhere and there were plenty of other jeeps too.

[@JordanHarris]

​@@MUUKOW3oh cool you have one of the few that didn't fall apart! You should definitely buy 3 more of the new plastic ones! It's the only way the company will survive their terrible products. 🤷‍♂️

[@MUUKOW3]

@JordanHarris One of the few ? There are XJ's and Cj's and j series all over the place .I take a guy in a Jeep stole your only girlfriend because your Kia wasn't cutting it.

[@slent5346]

​@@MUUKOW3was that why you got a jeep in the first place? Because some other jeep guy stole your girl man. Anyway both brands r shit just get a reliant robin smh

[@carlosmohedano]

They killed themselves by forgetting who was their base consumer and cutting corners everywhere

[@americanbadass88]

And sadly as long as people like the one with the 80 grand Wagoneer keep buyin this trash they will keep selling this over priced garbage. Its BAD when the 80s Chrysler K cars had better build quality than a 100 grand jeep.

[@carlosmohedano]

@@americanbadass88100%!! They keep rising prices, people get angry but still buy those cars? Like, do you really need a low quality 60k car?

[@Christopher_Giustolisi]

It´s the temptation of producing "premium" products with high margins. You don´t need that much more work and more materials to make a $100.000 luxury car than you need for producing a $20.000 econobox, at least not five times as much. Competition is hardest in the cheapest segments. That´s why dealers always try to sell something more expensive.

[@pokeDVScr]

And they know that if they go bankrupt, the government will bail them out.

[@toddtravis2596]

Target, Bud Light, and Jaguar have entered the chat. 😂

[@F8Tributo]

My 96 Grand Cherokee was a scandalous piece of isht, LONG BEFORE Stelantis ever entered the picture

[@someyoungguyjohnson7239]

Yep, Jeep has been crap for a LONG time, well before Stellantis.

[@superveggieh]

When engineers are running Detroit they did good, next they replaced them with MBA, this is what happend

[@teejay3250]

Just ask Boeing how doing the same worked out for them.

[@X9523-z3v]

Not to mention the community. Those ivory tower children don't even consider they ruin it for everyone, including themselves, when they decide to be pirate hustlers

[@kennethroyer9949]

MBA's are running many of the hospitals instead of doctors another punch up in the cost of sick care!

[@blackcloud4126]

As someone with a Masters degree in international management, I would not make ANY of the decisions these execs are making. First order of business would be to have a sit down with the engineers, designers, etc. Those are the REAL core of the business.

[@ecchioni]

Same shit in software companies.

[@yougregor]

I'm not saying Stellantis did a good job, but this video implies Jeep used to be high quality before the merger, which is not exactly true. In fact it was consistently close to the bottom of most reliability rankings for at least 20 years.

[@caleb3909]

Much of this has to do with competing with the international labor market. In an effort to avoid the high cost of American production, these companies transitioned much of their assembly to Mexico in an attempt to compete with SE Asian brands. When there are behemoth brands that offer quality at extremely low labor costs and the US allows them to export to our country, we end up with American conglomerates that invent more and more ridiculous cost cutting measures to avoid the unions. Everyone gets fucked besides the shareholders in this scenario.

[@Sandro1le]

But not to the extreme extent that we saw with the Stellantis merger.

[@frankone97]

⁠​⁠@@caleb3909Four of the top reliability brands in 2023 are building cars in Mexico (BMW, Mazda, Honda and Toyota). Don’t blame the Mexican labor market when it’s the CEOs that decides the quality benchmarks they ask for.

[@stevansaunders18]

True!

[@account4info]

Chrysler improved the quality from AMC. There was a small window when owning a Jeep wasn't a bad thing.

[@BRAV-lm6xk]

The boss said, "Customers want affordability" Nothing "affordable" about a Jeep. Those things are ridiculously overpriced

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

That's why they're all sitting on the lots. Nobody's buying them at their crazy prices.

[@TheHungrySlug]

In Australia around 2000, jeep meant Just Extremely Expensive Parts. And nothing much seems to have changed since then.

[@paulwinnetou4560]

oh come on! its inflation , it was affordable

[@1wheeldrive751]

It depends which model you get. All of my Jeep Wranglers and some of the other models (Cherokees and Liberty) have been the base “Sport” models. The fewer gadgets you get built in, the more reliable the car is overall. My current Wrangler is a 2021 unlimited (4-door), sport. It has manually cranked windows, manual door locks, but does have an automatic transmission ( my last one did not). Check out the prices on base model Jeeps compared to the top-of-the-line Rubicons, etc. They are relatively affordable.

[@joshxi218]

Worked in car industry for 5+ years, and some of my learnings: - Don’t buy new models or models with major upgrades; - Don’t buy models that recently moved to new assembly plants; - Don’t buy cars assembled in certain plants; - Don’t buy cars assembled on Monday or Friday (if you have access to such info); - Don’t buy certain models from certain brands (which include most of Jeep modes fyi)

[@1foreman]

Let's just be real.... Dodge, Chrysler & Jeep have made subpar vehicles for several decades. They weren't always like this (and not all of them), but there was a reason they were cheaper. This just makes it even worse.

[@Praisethesunson]

They never recovered from 2008. They got a bailout. Did stock buybacks. Its been trash ever since.

[@maxstrong1999]

​@@Praisethesunsonthe state of the American auto industry goes back to the first oil crisis in 1973. They got caught off guard with a double wammy of high gas prices and increased competition from foreign manufacturers who made cars that got better gas mileage and didn't suck.

[@drewcox2103]

Had a '97 Sebring convertible (Chrysler) that broke down on the freeway entrance ramp. Nearly had a collision. We made it out safely, but that was the end the line for me. Oh, and the customer service rep couldn't have cared less about my near disastrous experience.

[@AndrewPont-w1j]

That's not true, the Chrysler Town and Country from 2000-2010 is a fantastic vehicle.

[@1foreman]

@AndrewPont-w1j like I mentioned, not every sibgle vehicle was poorly made.

[@nickhettelsater4769]

This sounds almost like what Harley Davidson is doing. Make them crappy as possible and double the price.

[@bryanbrowning5746]

And then Harley hires a foreign CEO from Puma shoes. Of course if you buy a Harley, you need some good walking shoes!😂

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

​@@bryanbrowning5746puma shoes are woke yuck all shoes manufacturers are woke.

[@RetSol61]

Another foreign CEO raping an American company.

[@Alex10daysago]

Only absolute suckers give their money to ride around in those trash bikes.

[@charlesbosse9669]

Wait till Trump gets ahold of them. Before he won the election,he warned the John Deere company about moving manufacturing to Mexico. I do believe they've put their plans on hold. He hadn't even won the election yet,this point. People in America won't have good paying jobs anymore,so who are they going to sell these cars to,at 80,000 dollars? I certainly wouldn't keep a second or third job,just so I could buy a 80,000 dolkar jeep grand cherokee.

[@dusty4047]

Car prices are outrageous

[@silverXnoise]

-Car- prices are outrageous.

[@austinbaccus]

- Cars cost too much - Cars weigh too much - Cars are getting too big

[@austinbaccus]

It's not entirely the auto industry's fault for high car prices though. The prices are high (partially) because most people buy expensive cars. Too many people would rather get a monthly payment for a fancy car than save cash for a cheap one. The result is a market flooded with expensive cars and millions of people going underwater on their car payments for cars they had no business getting in the first place.

[@zacharypeloquin340]

Buy a used car take care of it yourself

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

As opposed to food and housing? You need food and shelter, you dont need a new car.

[@IchwurdeHierzugenotigt]

From a german point of view american cars already had very poor quality Standards. And now they even made it worse? Now they are so bad, that even americans complain about the poor quality of the cars? So it must be really really Bad.

[@stephenlocilento649]

Unfortunately, much of the German car market is on the same failing production quality arc. Granted, they started from a better place than American Quality. VW, BMW, Mercedes and Audi have developed terrible quality control reputations that have destroyed their resell value in the US. Too expensive to fix, Americans often buy Japanese/Korean, or buy American expecting less costly repair bills vs German imports. This problem is pervasive globally. Even Toyota has recently buckled under emission standards pressure and dumped their “boring” but reliable power plants for turbo charged smaller displacement engines that are suffering from quality issues.

[@stephenlocilento649]

Unfortunately, much of the German car market is on the same failing production quality arc. Granted, they started from a better place than American Quality. VW, BMW, Mercedes and Audi have developed terrible quality control reputations that have destroyed their resell value in the US. Too expensive to fix, Americans often buy Japanese/Korean, or buy American expecting less costly repair bills vs German imports. This problem is pervasive globally. Even Toyota has recently buckled under emission standards pressure and dumped their “boring” but reliable power plants for turbo charged smaller displacement engines that are suffering from quality issues.

[@777dragonborn]

Poor quality along with The price gouging and these newer vehicles almost unrepairable can't even check the oil level with a stick anymore . Made on purpose to be disposable .

[@trifster]

LOL. you can’t comprehend the garbage that VWs are. i’d buy a jeep before a VW. toyota, honda reamin the best in quality and commitment to engineering and manufacturing excellence

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@stephenlocilento649BMW mini is actually for the last 7!years right up there reliability wise, with the Asian brands . Please update your information so you can speak accurate on such a serious topic. Some people might just take what you say and 📞 it to others but your info on this particular brand is outdated.

[@jenniferbrunson8671]

This guy worked under Carlos Ghosn so it’s not surprising that he ruined Jeep. Ghosn took Nissan from cars that go almost 400,000 miles to cars that barely make a 100,000 miles.

[@Joseph-wp2ry]

Yep - it’s called “Valued Engineering”…..

[@chrisgoblin4857]

Man had to flee Japan in a cello case if I remember correctly

[@schwenda3727]

3rd place to 1990s Toyota & Honda reliability (to which Nissan appeared to have been) should be A BARE MINIMUM standard in this decade for ALL automakers. As in ANYTHING LESS before 200 thousand miles (with evidence of routine maintenance) being worthy of legit LEMON LAW coverage.

[@stevens1041]

Facts

[@jool4867]

Nissan used to be such a good brand.

[@sjanzeir]

Stellantis is a classic case of enshittification: no matter how good and how popular the product is, it'll always eventually be forced to deteriorate to a state where maximum profits for the shareholders are ensured.

[@Kewrock]

Jeep was making junk long before Stellantis. The extremely dated, but still in production Cherokee XJ and Wrangler TJ under Chrysler Corp were the last good vehicles made, even though the rest of Chrysler's Jeep linup were junk. When Fiat took over it was straight down hill. I got stuck with a '17 Renegade when the lease was up during pandemic and no vehicles were available. So I bought out the lease. It's junk. I got one of the bad motors that burns about a quart per thousand miles. I have a bunch other problems too.

[@joegreenbbka]

​@Kewrock Have you tried Lucas oil in your oil changes? Look the stuff up, its great. You just replace 1 quart of oil with the Lucas oil. I had a big V-8 that was burning oil and whenever I changed it I started using Lucas... went from burning a quart a week to about a half a quart a month. Mine was really bad lol, ended up replacing my fuel rail and half my engine basically, after that it barely burnt any.

[@risingstar1309]

@@Kewrockrenegade is just a joke. At the body shop I worked at one would get stuck in 2 inches of snow on flat ground

[@Kewrock]

@@risingstar1309 IDK. Maybe you worked on a FWD version. It's actually awesome in the snow. The year I got it we had a couple of nasty snow storms. I did what I always did with my Jeeps. I waited til they plowed the parking lots at the mall and went snow climbing on the mountains of snow. I does quite well. Ironically, I have a Trailhawk. It actually sits about an inch lower than the Limited, because they put smaller wheels on it. But driving in snow, Iv'e never even had to put it in 4x4 setting. The electronic controlled AWD dose fine. Aside from the quality control issues, It's actually a really nice vehicle.

[@thealternative9580]

It’s infected everything. We need a do over.

[@RHJ3]

This is a systemic problem with mega-business. No soul, no love, no vision, just mega greed. And the top tier rewarded handsomely for their behavior.

[@yagogabriell]

And money for the shareholders

[@stefantkalcic1491]

It's a systemic problem with capitalism. You can see this trend play out across industries of all scales.

[@feandil666]

these are the rules man, vote communist if you don't like it.

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@stefantkalcic1491You could be a communist and have the government own everything, that has worked out so well.

[@jefferyrightmire9520]

There are people with TOO MUCH MONEY, and f--k everyone else out of their scraps.

[@Youreplywasalie]

Personally and they all still ran when I got rid of them -Toyota almost 500k miles, Ford f150 250k, 2 Lexus models with 225K plus, Honda 195k. NONE had anything more than routine maintenance. Yet, Never had a Jeep, dodge or General Motors make it to 100k. I'd drive a 40 year old 250k mile Japanese car across America before I would a 40k mile Jeep, Dodge or General motor auto. Buy what you want, this is just my own personal observations.

[@dylanpage4106]

“We’re a Jeep family” translates to “I did zero research and overpaid for a brand identity”

[@red1inerr113]

An he was pointing out issues you would have figured out during a test drive, deserves everything he got.

[@stevenweiss2148]

'PIG BOAT'

[@curtbrockhaus6131]

I see millions of Toyotas on the road branded as something else, America is one big bigot. Rev 13:11

[@overlandsea2375]

@@curtbrockhaus6131this makes absolutely no sense. Also Chrysler was a FAAAR superior brand above Toyota before it was Given to foreign companies to run into the ground.

[@Cnw8701]

Yep. Looks like his Dad bought him that house.

[@polaris911]

1:25 "We like being in the jeep family" Bro.. corporations are not your family. They're not your friends. They don't care about you.

[@fuerte-af]

LOL

[@チェリーブラッサム-z9q]

Painful to watch.

[@HANDLEDEEZNUTS5.56]

He's sold on dashboard rubber ducks and doing the jEeP wAvE.

[@saulnier]

Yes, one can have reasonable brand loyalty, but calling it "family" indicates a certain amount of indoctrination has crept in.

[@tsolizilv7491]

He bought an 80k Jeep, he’s not smart.

[@ooomeinereinerooo]

That's not just Stellantis. Its all major car manufacturers that took the opportunity to make a fortune alongside Covid. Car prices are ridiculous.

[@mhmm4303]

It’s every corporation under capitalism. Every. Single. One.

[@ThisTimeTheWorld]

Every Single Time 🤥)))

[@bpspoa]

@@mhmm4303 yeah? Tell me How the alternative system treats its citizens?

[@wildlive1296]

Amen to that! I have a soft spot for Ford Expeditions since my family had one growing up. I recently looked them up and was shocked to see they start at over $60k.

[@k.w.2275]

Yep. Shitty films, live-service video games. Garbage food made with industrial by-products. Late stage capitalism. ​@@mhmm4303

[@stephengatley8144]

The simpsons predicted this. The wagoneer is the Canyonero 😂

[@TMoneyMil]

😂😂😂

[@salmiakki5638]

Don't worry, Stellantis destroyed italian car brands and manufacturing cababilities aswell

[@carlosponchio1869]

like a Locust Plague in the countries it operates.

[@bend3rbot]

This has occurred across the car making world, where only distressed makers are looking for merger opportunities, so only bad mergers occur. Ghosn ruined Nissan, who are now looking to climb into bed with a distressed Honda.

[@xelaander8429]

​@@bend3rbot Ghosn actually saved Nissan, minus the Murano Cross Cabriolet. Nissan ruined Nissan by sticking to its CVT, not even the eCVT like Toyota or Honda, for the lower end models

[@p4olo537]

They destroyed themselves before Stellantis 😂 Look at Opel they were loosing a lot of money under GM and in a few years PSA made them profitable.

[@paulluce2557]

@@p4olo537 PSA got Vauxhall in UK and Germany in same deal. Now Vauxhall is a Citroen

[@regane.bartko7247]

Hire as CEO the right hand man of the guy who ruined Nissan. Only the Stellantis board of directors wouldn’t see that as a disaster in the making.

[@AK-rx6hv]

Board just wants to make shareholders money. That's their job.

[@CJinSD1]

Carlos Ghosn actually saved Nissan from bankruptcy and made the Nissan-Mitsubishi-Renault alliance the largest automaker in the world while he was in command. Nissan built some pretty unexceptional cars throughout, but they were a healthy company with secure employees.

[@Richard-f7q]

Nissan is garbage.

[@alfredomarquez9777]

​@@CJinSD1 You don't have the slightest idea about how reliable were Nissans before the overtake by Renault.. and how bad went Nissan quality as soon as Renault took them over. Ghosn should have been kept in prison in Japan. Somehow he had the enough (stolen) money to bribe someone and escape...

[@marianoherrera6038]

​@@CJinSD1That's so fake you have no idea. That guy destroyed Nissan and made Infiniti basically disappear so no, you're wrong

[@noscopekumshots333]

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the Boeing of automobiles industry

[@Tom_Losh]

Yup. The MBAs came in, took over, and kicked the engineers out. Shareholder dividends come first over *everything* else.

[@dizzleslaunsen2372]

Bro Boeing is so reliable it’s Heard of what 3 incidents? I don’t think you understand just how popular Boeing planes are…..but whatever.

[@divyanshameta9516]

Watch "think school" documentary about it how bad managment destroyed boeing​@@dizzleslaunsen2372

[@DameAndThatGame]

​@dizzleslaunsen2372 it's actaully over 500 Boeing incidents with nearly 6000 fatalities. Bit more than 3 your YT feed fed you.

[@DarukiNeo-il2jt]

@@dizzleslaunsen2372 now compare it to every other company. a single accident is a big deal in the plane industry

[@AshGreen359]

They make Jeeps without 4WD now. Those aren't jeeps

[@mitchs.920]

Wife bought a wrangler 5 years ago, I told her she would regret ot within 6 months. 3 months and $3k in repairs later we traded it in for a subaru, will never buy a Stellantis product again.

[@buzzlightyear3715]

Jeep has been ranked dead last in quality for 30 years. That is not new.

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

​@@buzzlightyear3715 30 years? The TJ and XJ were very reliable. They both ended production in the 2000s.......

[@beeha8133]

My mom’s husband just bought a Jeep, and I just shook my head. If you do just a bit of research, you would know of the shitty product you just bought.

[@31mbur]

@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oothe XJ with the I6 is legendary

[@adventuresmadeeasyllc6032]

@@31mbur100%

[@dynagaming2693]

I fix forklifts and my service van was replaced about 8 months ago. I went from a Nissan NV3500 to a RAM ProMaster 3500. Now, this van is based on the Fiat Ducato, which has been around and has actually been pretty reliable since the 80s. At 3800 miles, a transmission line blew stranding me on the interstate for 6 hours until a tow truck could get to me and load up (unfortunately because of the height of the van and DOT regulations, only certain trucks / drivers can actually tow this thing). It sat at the dealer for 3 weeks while they waited for parts. Then when the I got my van back, within a week the battery would die overnight EVERY night. Back to the dealer I went. 9 hours after arrival they finally put the battery in and then I was on my way. Ever since the battery replacement, the stereo has worked intermittently. It always looks like it's working, but you can't change inputs, radio stations, the volume and CarPlay won't come up. It got to the point where I zip tied a bluetooth speaker to the driver / cargo partition. Also, no less than 6 times I've been to the dealer over random electrical problems, specifically the lighting system. I get notifications and randomly turn signals, side markers and headlights won't work. Just the other night I lost both headlights at the same time driving home. I pulled over, waiting 5 minutes, rekeyed 3 times and that magically they worked again. They always tell me they can't find any problem at the dealership. Yeah, and they want $60,000 for one of these pieces of junk.

[@jimbotron70]

This is sad because Ducatos used to be unstoppable tanks.

[@Think1st-m9r]

@@dynagaming2693 there’s a KZbin channel that only talks Promasters he has vans with hundred of thousands of miles on them. Possibly build quality at plant in Mexico as some seem to be troublesome and others have little trouble? Mine has not been perfect but I still love it over the Chevy express or Ford E series as far as working out of it and maneuverability. I’ll take the PM with a service every other year over the Chevys PIA rear doors busting my @$$ every day.

[@twentysevenlitres]

Long term profits should be tied into their contracts. If those profits are still there in 10 years, they get their bonuses or half their salary or something. The whole time CEO bonuses are tied to short term profits, of course they're going to slash margins.

[@jakesmith2341]

I feel your pain. Locksmith here, heard the horror stories. Spend 24k and 2 months tracking down a 2020 Chevy express 2500 with non afm 6.0. Why did it take so long and cost so much? Because according to my painstaking research, that’s the last cargo van available in the US that’s not a complete unreliable pos. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is laughing at us driving their Toyota Hiace , kei trucks, and dirt cheap Chinese garbage (yeah, it’s unreliable and quality is nonexistent, but parts are cheap and so is labor. We’re getting shafted in both ends here).

[@davebarrow4460]

Sounds like a bad ecu.

[@CU-nz9ud]

You spent $80K on a vehicle…..and didn’t spend 30 minutes doing some research ?

[@joeybleu66]

yup bot it online took 30 secs

[@bigercat]

Agreed

[@saifmansoorgiki]

But that is what high end is supposed to mean , you shouldn't have to worry about basics when paying 80k for a car.

[@StevenDauber]

Anyone who spends 80k on a vehicle needs to get their head examined..

[@mitchelgreen891]

@@StevenDauberon a JEEP!!! That’s crazy! When has jeep ever been a beacon of quality and luxury, everything else at that price range you expect to have quality and luxury, but I know that car still says jeep on the front.

[@Theodore-i2y]

STELLANTIS is actually FIAT (the "Fix it Again Tony" Italian automaker) 😄

[@2WheelsGood.01]

The answer is always corporate greed. A Jeep shouldn't cost more than 40k. It should be about simplicity and capability. Jeep would be the last place I'd look for luxury.

[@JemieBridges]

I think there's room for a luxury Jeep. But that means you need to keep a solid utility jeep, an SUV jeep, then a limited edition luxury Jeep

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

Agree, the grand was ok to be somewhat luxurious, but it could never be at the expense of capability. So, a buyer like me would buy a tough wrangler Rubicon, then get a Grand or Cherokee as a daily driver. That Daily driver still needed to handle 5-6/10 difficult trails as that’s why you bought a Jeep SUV. The wagoneer could have been an offroad capable 7 seater and I bet it would have sold better... instead we got whatever that is.

[@harveydent8714]

It shouldn’t even be $40k maybe $15k

[@timothykeith1367]

GMC was GM's commercial truck, they made it a luxury truck

[@mega408]

If people stopped buying, they would change but people are still buying.

[@bizichyld]

I’m 42 and I’ve always wanted a Wrangler. I thought 2025 would be the year I finally get one, but after researching and browsing threads of Jeep owners, I was having second thoughts. What sealed the deal was when I told my neighbor who owns a Wrangler I was considering getting one. He looked at me somewhat wide-eyed and simply said, “Don’t.”

[@dilligafmofoker]

Get a 5th gen 4Runner before you can’t.

[@ajuarezh]

Listen to your neighbor!! Yes I was in love with jeeps, I even collect all things about jeep and when I got the chance to get brand new wrangler I thought I’ll keep it forever. I had it for 10 years but was only a money pit. Once spent a year at the dealership after it caught on fire at the highway. On the other hand, I have a 2005 Toyota 4runner and there’s no way I get rid of it.

[@Dannyheal]

That's exactly what I did, but I owned a 2020 Wrangler first and had to just eventually get rid of it and go to a rav4. The Jeep was constant mechanical and electrical problems, over 10k in repairs on a vehicle less than 4 years old with proper maintenance, and it was never modified.

[@wisico640]

My dad sold his 2012 for a 2022 wrangler... 1 month in the car won't even move under its own power (ecu & transmission issue)

[@bestofsatish]

Try buying xpeng x9

[@ethylene1254]

We bought a grand Cherokee in the early 2000’s. It started out great, went bad real quick and real often. This didn’t just now happen. They’ve been terrible for 20 years.

[@Coalrollinfurry]

I bet if i kicked the front of a 04 or later gc hard enough, i could fully total it. Im being generous.. its pretty much 97 and later. The rad mount is welded to a unibody frame crumple zone. Prior to 97, the entire front clip is bolt on.

[@sandraarmitage3725]

My wrangler same thing. What a money pit

[@sprockkets]

Tbf the 4L older Wranglers were better.

[@Willp4139]

Just Empty Every Pocket

[@connor3288]

​@@sprockketsThey rot out bad though. Never seen a JK (2007+ up wrangler) rot out.

[@ericforman1483]

For sure it’s gotten worse, but just to be clear, Jeep has been a very unreliable brand for decades. Not an opinion, check Consumer Reports etc. data.

[@samuellolango9720]

"maximizing shareholder value" is the most destructive and parasitic concept ever created

[@wholeNwon]

That's an interesting general comment. I think that few will realize how right you are.

[@anonemus2971]

Welcome to the wonderful world of capitalism.

[@Shredxcam22]

Think of the shareholders!

[@Jet-ij9zc]

​@@anonemus2971yeah the soviets weren't exactly known for their product quality mate... Its not capitalism fault, it's greed.

[@anonemus2971]

@@Jet-ij9zc They didn't try to sell a Lada for $100,000 either. I was a Chrysler/Jeep mechanic about the time Fiat bought them, they are junk. Jeep hasn't made a good engine since the 4.0 lt. straight six.

[@noahcoelho7128]

To lower jeeps quality standards has to be one of the biggest achievements on earth

[@johnb8440]

The difference is, it used to be able to buy one for a fraction of what you can now. They were cheap, but generally reliable... Then Chrysler lost their mind in the late 2000s, and now they believe themselves to be a luxury brand.

[@brockbaby]

The most American made car is: Tesla.

[@RS-nc2fs]

"HARD choices" maybe CEOs don't need 44mil a year...

[@vw2rover]

Plus the union boss had expensive diamonds and watch on. Don’t forget to blame them also.

[@fakename287]

@@vw2rover did the union boss make the decisions that are killing the company?

[@FJB2020]

​@fakename287 yes...

[@grumpyweds443]

If they're doing a good job, delivering a good product, it wouldn't be an issue.

[@Zaes223]

​@@vw2rover The bracelet is probably worth $2500 if the diamonds are even real. My man gotta look good while hes dialing that phone.

[@saptarshideb2082]

They didn't cut cost in the upper management salaries and benefits, did they?

[@robertPharry777]

STELLANTIS MAKES JUNK CARS. THE CEO JUST QUIT AND RAN RECENTLY! 👎

[@Praisethesunson]

The CEO of Ford drives a Chinese Xiaomi.

[@nil981]

​@@Praisethesunsonwhat!? Really?

[@Praisethesunson]

@@nil981 yep. Thats how much he is invested in the product whose production he controls.

[@themaestro3034]

I have a 2024 4xe and it isnt junk at all. Quite the contrary. Maybe get your brain examined. Bet you never even drove one. 🤡

[@ishruffin7499]

Why would I keep working if I made 40 million

[@WhiskeyAlphaRomeo]

Greed. The answer is greed.

[@AndrewPont-w1j]

The answer is foreign labor. Mexico doesn't have the standards American factories do, it's why they're cheaper.

[@khunopie9159]

American Greed

[@TheBostricano]

​@@khunopie9159human greed

[@Pekkari6969]

110%!

[@RSTBKT]

@@khunopie9159 the CEO of Stellantis ain't American..

[@Evolution_Kills]

Not to shit on this guy for getting shafted on the quality of their car, but... NEVER build your identity around the stuff you own. You are not, and never were, a member of the 'Jeep Family'. Nobody with any real power over the brand, be they executives or shareholders, gives a flying-fuck about the rank and file plebes who handover their cash to purchase half-baked, shoddily built and engineered SUV's hidden behind an overpriced badge. They only cate about Jeep insofar as it is a means to increase their own personal wealth in the short-term. They don't care about you, the Jeeps, or where either of you will be 5 or 10 years from now; they already got theirs, so the rest of you can go pound sand.

[@CNMBTLJN]

I agree. As the guy talked all I could think was “you spent $80k on a lemon and wonder how Jeep could sell such a cheap piece of crap when you’re the sucker who will actually buy a vehicle entirely due to brand name and that’s why they made a cheap vehicle and sold it for prime $$$ - suckers like you will keep on buying them!”

[@maxstrong1999]

Buy stuff that you need, and that serves a purpose. My 2015 Civic is made here in the US, is cheap to fix, fuel and insure.

[@jimliu2560]

Like sports fans…that wastes money on professional sport teams ….

[@paulusclaudiusmaximus4912]

Agreed. Companies are only loyal to money. Why should you?

[@Day7Reset]

Facts! Wish more people could see this truth.

[@justinarrieta7168]

I will never own anything from Jeep or Dodge in my life. They always have had their issues.

[@StefanRemund-cd3uw]

90s jeeps were tanks. The interiors were cheap and would break but the drivetrains were invincible and 30 years out of date mechanically. Those were the days

[@Iskelderon]

I know the feeling. One of the cars I'm always feeling the itch for just for the fun of it is an 80s CJ-7.

[@MNYQaa]

@@Iskelderonif i cant get into heaven, i best be revvin my CJ 7

[@DirtMcGert29054]

You can than the epa for that

[@ESTEBAN4WD]

we had a 99 XJ with almost 300k miles, it run great, too bad it got rear-ended by a drunk driver

[@SocietyMan]

my 99 4.0 going stong at 210k, with proper maintenance ive seen dozens of examples where these motors reach 400k

[@clickbaitab5741]

2014 cherokee for $46,000?!?! I wouldn’t even pay that much now.

[@mr.lowslow7702]

lol I bought my 14 GC overland with v8 for 10k, never buy new

[@sam-ww1wk]

@@mr.lowslow7702 Never buy a new Chrysler.. I came out ahead buying new Toyotas. One of the differences in buying a quality product.

[@patty109109]

@@mr.lowslow7702congrats?

[@troys6965]

Chrysler lost me in 1985. No amount of merging or cost-cutting can eliminate that lemon taste.

[@JordanHarris]

What are you in about? The merging and cost cutting IS the lemon taste. 🤦‍♂️

[@heshy14]

@@JordanHarrisI’m 58 and he’s right, they haven’t been worth a damn for decades.

[@Cybersawz]

They lost me in 1994 when I bought a new 1994 Dodge Dakota V8 (318 CI) that self-destructed between 38K-70K miles. Went thru 2 trannies, a radiator, a rear-end, and 3, yes 3, heater cores! Bought a 2003 Tundra 4.7L which I still drive to this day with ZERO issues.

[@captainjack6890]

Stellantis didnt destroy Jeep, lol. The competition did. Jeep prices were heading luxury car territory with plastic interior and the same old crappy build quality.

[@platinumuschannel]

Jeep became complacent. They saw a lack of direct competition with their Wrangler, and then when the Bronco returned, they found competition. They also command a lot more loyalty than other offroading brands do, and that means they feel lazy enough to do nothing about their crap quality.

[@pjp80s]

Tavares …’customers want affordability’…. Let’s jack up the price of a jeep wrangler to 80k and make it less reliable. What a joke!

[@mementomori7825]

He actually meant "shareholders want dividends and we want stock buybacks."

[@Seeker3876]

It is sad when the people working in the auto plants cannot afford their vehicles.

[@gorkyd7912]

@@Seeker3876 People working on yachts can't afford yachts. People working on mansions can't afford mansions. People working on aircraft carriers can't afford aircraft carriers. It makes no difference. New cars are a luxury purchase. This isn't 1930, there are millions upon millions of used cars that work perfectly, so no one NEEDS a new car that's a luxury for the really wealthy or really dumb.

[@ttiwkram]

@@Seeker3876 Henry Ford largely created the middle class by paying his workers enough to buy their own products.

[@GF-mf7ml]

80k jeep less reliable than 18k Nissan Versa.

[@klintonkacatin]

not just Jeep, the whole industry has been doing this for some time now. I'm referring to quality and feel.

[@AshPKM69]

Yep I agree with you. My 2019 chevy silverado has been sitting for a month. Meanwhile my 2001 silverado is still going. All because they put cheap electronics and sensors on there. It is stressful to see all of the industry taking advantage of us consumers. 🙃 Quality isn't a thing in American cars anymore.

[@loungerreveries]

BMW is still holding up the quality I feel volvo too not bad

[@Penguvv]

Not even just the car industry, legit everything manufactured now is more expensive for worse quality

[@c0ltz450]

@@AshPKM69 Quality isn't a thing in America anymore. Every single company has started doing this. Made in America doesn't mean what it used to mean, embarrassing.

[@braydons5623]

Look at a Mazda. They've moved it towards a more premium feel with a still affordable price tag while keeping them reliable mechanically and build quality wise.

[@Suburp212]

That CEO destroyed the company and took home 40 Mil. He should be sued by all employees.

[@sulfuricanaljuice3994]

CEO's like that deserve a portait in Luigi's Mansion

[@inzane1260]

Some would say that's theft.

[@Youreplywasalie]

Want to name the year that Jeep was known for super reliability ? The 4.0 is a motor and there is a lot that makes up an Auto besides a motor. Can you name a lot of super reliable Jeep Products in the last 40 years? We will wait.

[@Hogla287]

Employees have no rights. The shareholders should be holding them responsible

[@dustinnop]

​@@Youreplywasaliehad a 97 jeep 2.5l 5 speed manual that was overall very reliable. But it did not have much that could go wrong. Most jeeps are not very reliable

[@MrJv807]

why is it so hard for companies to just care about their employees making their money

[@wolfmex3012]

Here in Italy Stellantis wants to layoff thousand of automotive workers, yet the government has been giving bilions of euros for years to them

[@dissco.partysan3333]

It is called socialism for the rich.

[@cobraglatiator]

@@dissco.partysan3333 socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor... classic.

[@raymondfrye5017]

Stellantis is going to lay-off employees anyway.So what is new? Italian cars are problems in one package.Why? As an example, you have to stand outside the vehicle just to change the gears.

[@THNKKY]

Funny how the man who ruined Chrysler was the protege of the one who ruined Nissan.

[@ShaneSaw2593]

I said the same thing.

[@88SherryLynn]

The two manufacturers that are probably going to disappear in the next couple years are Stelantis and Nissan.

[@curtbrockhaus6131]

@@88SherryLynn Nissan is a rebadged Toyota, same for Honda, Hyundai, KIA etc. U.S. brain is amazing.

[@jtjoemamma]

@@88SherryLynnand the bean counters at the top sit on their money, and the normal people get left behind. this has been the corporate playbook for every company in the last 5 years. cut costs, raise prices, and squeeze as much as possible out of us until we either revolt or become a Wall-E situation. The future is bright with atomic fire

[@Shamino1]

@@curtbrockhaus6131 Acura is the luxury brand of Honda. Lexus is the luxury brand of Toyota. Infiniti is the luxury brand of Nissan. But those are absolutely 3 different companies with 3 different histories and 3 different design philosophies.

[@millennialmisfits6156]

I love how car companies are hiding the price of a new car. Are they scared that people will find the actual price of a new car?

[@franknukemcomegetsome2744]

When I was in high school back in 1997, the actual cost of producing a car from the factory to the dealership lot, this is a lightweight passenger car was only $200

[@anjoliebarrios8906]

Yes, they do want to hide the (real) price from you. The salespeople will market the price based on a loan that you have to pay *per month / per year* . They hate when you ask what the total price is.

[@DcMag]

Funny because before joining "forces" each brand was in severe trouble lol. What a surprise this outcome hun

[@Jame78s]

*buys a jeep *wonders why it sucks Well you bought a jeep big guy.

[@mr.lowslow7702]

As a jeep owner can confirm

[@ConKhiMyDen]

lol right?

[@LancelotLink1]

But it looked good on the lot and the salesman told me Jeep is reliable

[@1985_Honda_CRX_Si]

jeeps havent been good since 2002

[@iCanHasACheeseBurger]

Aw man you humour me and sadden me at the same time loool. I was thinking of getting a used jeep sometime in the future 😅

[@kwashelby2010]

"3 semi non functioning national automakers combined into one" LOL

[@Seeker3876]

Well said.

[@aaronbays7436]

Actually its more like 4, Opel was bought out by PSA before the Stellantis merger. And they were the red headed step child in Germany who hadnt made a dime in profit for 20 years. GM finally got tired of losing money and sold their whole operation to the French

[@Edua1111]

I heard the story GM liked to enjoy any development Opel made; engines, small car platforms etc; they sold those globally as rebaged GM stuff. The profit from global sales went directly to GM, while Opel was confined in the eu market. That’s why Opel was always ‘losing money’. While Opel cars were quite popular and usually reliable in the eu market.

[@afterhourscinema782]

This reminds me of a George Carlin joke *"I have an American car. I call it the '1977 piece-of-sh*t'."* 😂

[@greatesttoysevermade3693]

I’ve got one too, only it’s a 2018.

[@CarQuestion]

When the workers can't afford the cars they make... time for a change! ✊

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

"It's a Jeep Thing, You Wouldn't Understand" 🤣🤣🤣

[@riverraisin1]

🤣🤣Thanks for my morning laugh!

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Jeep Wranglers & Jeep Cherokee's have been the best winter vehicle for a lot of families for decades in rural America like Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Granted that most also have more economical cars for the rest of the year, as the fuel savings more than pays for it. But a Toyota, Nissan, etc. can't take the abuse of deep snow and damaged roads that can't be fixed until mid spring...

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

@@davidhollenshead4892 🤣🤣 a 4x4 1993 Tacoma with 250K miles will tow your broken down Jeep from the UP's deep snow..

[@chadburke852]

@@Johnny-Utah-91 If you lived here you’d know 93 tacomas have been rusted out shells since 08 or so

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

@@chadburke852 and Jeeps are nowhere to be seen, except in a junk yard

[@iffracem]

Jeeps were crap long before Stellantis got involved. I remember them getting "Lemon of the year" awards back in the '90's, and 2000's Renowned for poor quality control.

[@gavriloking5637]

this

[@anonemus2971]

Jeeps haven't been good since Willys Overland sold it to AMC

[@russcontact]

For sure, but that’s sort of the point too. Despite that quality executives and shareholders are making obscene money.

[@paint1016]

My 98 TJ sport has been a tank

[@minkusmcminkus7598]

Dodge sucks

[@seanmurphy637]

They dont cut costs to make cars cheaper for the customers. They cut costs to make more profits for the shareholders.

[@mattdebyl8806]

Like every company

[@bajamen]

You mean stealholders

[@CosminRusu154]

I don't feel sorry for customers that are paying 80-90k for a Jeep.

[@Rubeless]

Simp thinks that Cherokee is well made…? Those vehicles are junk. Sit in one with 100,000 miles and sit in a 4Runner with the same mileage, two completely different vehicles.

[@whydoineedahandle269]

Not to mention the price. 46k for the grand Cherokee in 2014 is wild. My 4runner was 34k in 2017 and is probably worth at least double that Cherokee today.

[@tylaranderson8559]

Good luck finding one with 100,000 miles,. However your local wrecking yard will probably have plenty of them with about 50,000 Mi on them, sit in one of those

[@k00dalgo]

According to him, his family only buys Jeep. They don't know any better. And he clearly doesn't bother to research vehicles before he buys them.

[@o9brian]

Older Jeeps are SOLID

[@3644Darrell]

​@@Wolfiecatmedallion19the 4Runner is definitely not junk

[@berke2336]

Anyone that refers to it as "being part of a family" when they are talking about purchasing a literal consumer product, needs serious help.

[@GChris-ny8fp]

Apple users think they're part of a family

[@kensmith2796]

And thinking that a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee is a good vehicle. LOL

[@hhjhj393]

Tools are tools, that's it. The rest is manipulation for dumb people. Tools exist to help you do things. At the end of the day what people want are tools that get the job done for an affordable price and that don't destroy the world in the process.

[@phdtobe]

So do people who unnecessarily insert commas into sentences where they don’t belong!

[@plankton199]

There is a Jeep "Culture" that he is speaking of. Maybe you should stop being a douche online and get some friends.

[@ThePaperKhan]

I work at a Honda factory. I in particular usually make driveshafts. We make containers for 60. The parts get double checked by someone else, if they find even one small defect, or if we forget to mark a single thing on the part, they scrap all 60.

[@mikemcmike6427]

I dont get Stellantiss’ strategy of not stopping the line if a defect is found. Its going to cost far far more to later do a recall and fix it later

[@paulpichler]

Removing just the damaged parts would be to easy. 😂

[@ChromiumPenguin]

​@@mikemcmike6427That is the strategy. Kick the can down the road and to fight repair costs at the individual level. Dealerships are already horrible about unnecessary repairs and overcharging so they'll play ball with trying to screw over the customer.

[@davidgoldin2577]

Which is why I am looking at a CR-V.

[@every1665]

That's why I love Hondas. I pray they don't follow the Jeep path to quick profits and brand destruction.

[@Optiman5000]

Thanks for the heads up! I was thinking about the new Jeep pick up. I’ll skip it!

[@Djaj2000]

Stellantis found a way to somehow make Chryslers even less reliable.

[@MrManAmong]

The dude with the white wagoneer has no one to blame but himself. First off, Jeep has sucked for a long time. He also coulda seen that the suv was made of plastic and had a trash touch screen before he bought it. Brand loyalty means nothing because the brands aren't loyal to US.

[@ToddMagnussonWasHere]

Yea, could’ve spent an hour on KBB or mechanics car review channels and saved himself the big OOF.

[@panan7777]

I have a big advantage here: I buy the brand that gives me most for my needs for the least amount of money. Currently I have to buy the "best new USED" car. Meaning here in the EU the last reliable years are around 2012, MAYBE up to 2015. Everything past that is OVERCOMPLICATED JUNK, programmed to fail after the warranty ends. I mean a lot of them CAN NOT BE repaired. There is ALWAYS some small sensor, that malfunctions and it is HELL to find just WHICH one. I believe that in maybe 5 years things will get better, in the US, because Press Trump will stop a lot of this mad norms, here for the EU I have ZERO hopes, with this idiots pushing emissions so low that are technically impossible. The GERMANS are the main culprit, I love to see their carmakers TANKING big time. Greedy bastards.

[@ToddMagnussonWasHere]

@ Sorry to hear that man, I wash just joking a couple days ago that “America is entering its Cuban era”, like we make and/or import garbage and it’ll just be easier at this point to take anything 1965-2005 (give or take depending on the brand) and keep it running. A lot of farmers here are keeping older equipment running. It’s making more and more sense to buy older.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Once the software is current, the touchscreen works just fine. Also, the whole vehicle isn't plastic like the guy infers, it's still mostly metal. Bumper elements are plastic just like almost every other car out there.

[@gordonmills2748]

One of my dad's best friends was a plant manager for AMC/Jeep back in the late 70 and early 80s. We had a Cherokee that was the most bulletproof vehicle we ever had. It was amazing. My dad's friend was a middle class guy, and his workers loved him. Then Chrysler took over. Then Stellantis.

[@johnvogt5847]

Still driving my 74 CJ 5

[@1598hi]

Yeah thats why I dont find this finger pointing at Stellantis argument valid. Chrysler has sucked since Iaccoca, Jeep has sucked since Chrysler stopped continuing to produce AMC vehicles. Could have made this video 30 seconds long LOL

[@MrBahjatt]

Everyone of those boses is basically an MBA and an MBA basically teaches you that shareholder dividends is the most important thing. In short, cut costs anywhere and everywhere, leverage (borrow as much as possible) to inflate shareholder returns and value, and collude-collaborate-copetitate with other brands in order to keep it that way: the customer comes last when an MBA is in charge. I say that is not how it should be and that shareholders of these companies are just as wicked and vile.

[@kisielthe1st]

You know it's bad when even Americans complain about cheap materials and garbage quality of assembly lol.

[@topside1246]

​@@JackFromWyoming Y'all got duped SO hard lmao

[@Oldvehicle19]

​@JackFromWyoming thay would be nice unfortunately we want trucks just to go to the store

[@ajuarezh]

@@JackFromWyominghahahaha and what happened in the previous period? Wasn’t enough to make it great again? I had a 2009 wrangler, yes probably made in Toledo, Ohio, USA. It was a crap 💩!!! So nothing js going to change with the magic wand of one person, it will need the effort of millions of people working together and change the mindset to do things great again.

[@ajuarezh]

@@JackFromWyomingwell your brain is totally disconnected if you think you need a politician to make good American products “again”, but good luck with that.

[@ajuarezh]

@@JackFromWyominghahah 80 millions are not a majority from 300 millions, but the important thing is that everyone works to really make a change which should benefits all the people. Good luck 👍🏼

[@jmurphy6767]

I remember in the late 80s talking to someone who worked at a Jeep factory. He warned me never to buy a Jeep.

[@MUUKOW3]

Considering that is when AMC owned them and they were still built well your friend was wrong.

[@angelgjr1999]

Jeeps have never been good. Now they’re junk AND expensive

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

good advice. Had a 1986 Jeep Cherokee.. nothing but issues. OH Jeeps built before 20XX (insert year) run forever, my ass..

[@MUUKOW3]

@Johnny-Utah-91 Sounds more like the guy working on it was the problem !

[@danielantonio1635]

@@jmurphy6767 yeah the american car companies should close their american plants. imagine how much cheaper the cars would be to buy and better quality if they were built in china.

[@jay5286]

And that's the problem with all these big companies merging together that needs to stop no more competition the better

[@hoilst265]

This is exactly why the free market is an oxymoron: the natural, logical endpoint of the free market is consolidated companies that don't have to compete...thus killing the thing that makes the free market good in the first. In short, businessbros: you need regulation to save you from yourselves.

[@BigTrees4ever]

@@hoilst265you have never read Adam Smith it would appear, because in classical capitalism, the role of government in the free market is to stop this kind of thing, to keep the market free. When you have multinational corporations, it’s impossible to have capitalism by definition.

[@Ihateironyanddumbusernames]

​@@BigTrees4everthey should break up Google tbh. They obviously have a monopoly on our minds.

[@santostv.]

A lot of those wouldn’t still exist tho, nowadays the Chinese might buy them but a few years ago they would be nowhere to be found. Platform sharing and reusing from the same parts bins is what allowed a lot of brands to continue alive.

[@mikemcmike6427]

@@BigTrees4everto be fair Adam smith was kinda the father of capitalism and came before the need to debate and implement consumer protection and anti trust laws which he never talked about. Which ironically these sorts of government regulation and intervention are nessecary for capitalism to actually work and flourish well

[@TheFarGaurd]

Jeep, Fiat, Dodge, Ram, and Chrysler have been garbage for decades. Yet, somehow Stellantis made them worse 💀

[@Alex-cw3rz]

When you earn 40 million a year how are supposed to know that 100,000 is too much for a Jeep.

[@Seeker3876]

Really good point. They have lost their connection to reality.

[@Morphling92]

You can’t make all cars “high end luxury” and sell them for triple what a car would/should be and expect it to go well when people are barely buying eggs. Also, Jeep as luxury is laughable.

[@TheFranchiseCA]

Eggs are $6 for a 24 pack at Costco, it's a pretty good deal.

[@Morphling92]

@ huh?

[@kman-mi7su]

Yeah, pretty stupid of them, their bread-and-butter market was always the middle class. What were the idiots at Stellantis thinking?

[@connorhenshaw4542]

How the hell does this channel not have more followers, this stuff is so vital to understand the future of our country’s trajectory

[@Thebearwand]

The biggest issue with this video is implying Jeep were known for quality and reliability before stellantis bought the company when the truth it everything Mopar has been shit for decades

[@nltalbottgmail]

Yeah, I have a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 pickup with a 5.9 Cummins. Basically a million mile engine surrounded by a 50K mile truck trying to rust itself to death. The sunglass holder on the ceiling had a hinge made of plastic and it broke and fell off the other day. The only reason it still works is that I keep it inside and don't drive it much.

[@tristanphillips8937]

I disagree, every brand has had shit quality for decades. Keeps are kinda misunderstood with their reliability, the ride quality and steering issues are inherent for a short wheelbase solid axle. The difference is stellantis has gotten more expensive and lower quality while the other brands got more expensive and higher quality.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

This is what happens when you don't allow companies to die naturally

[@tomwaitsmencse]

DEI naturally*

[@GOLANX]

​@@tomwaitsmencse yes the problem is clearly racial Purity, the white CEO of Stellantis was clearly picked for being Irish, damn you DEI!

[@davidhollenshead4892]

@@tomwaitsmencse Do you even know what it is like to be discriminated against? Try being a Native American or in my case, half Native & half White and being considered "too intimidating in appearance" to work an office job in I. T. and yet unable to work the skilled trades anymore with a broken back... The UAW allowed Intelligent & Hardworking African Americans built like a refrigerator to make a decent wage... As for the LGBT+ people, it doesn't bother me that the main employee at the local boot store is a Trans Woman. They stock products that come in Native American sizes like Wolverine Brand in wide, and she is always quick to help me find exactly what I am looking for...

[@scsmith4604]

@@tomwaitsmencse That is the real problem from what I hear from people I know there

[@maesfunnyvideos]

GM is doing fine though?

[@jonphillips2951]

Another corporation concerned with share holders’ profits. This guilded age has gone on for too long.

[@Lawyerboyleslie72]

Most of us are shareholders in our 401ks. Get those profits up

[@captainroberts6318]

Gilded* guild is like world of Warcraft guild

[@rustyshackleford324]

@@Lawyerboyleslie72you need to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. your 401k is a fair price to pay if it means a better market for the rest of us.

[@mikemcmike6427]

@@Lawyerboyleslie72it won’t be profits though when time after time corporations are subject to “corporate plundering” where companies reputations, longterm profits and stability and brands are ruined for shorter CEO pay and shareholders. You won’t have great 401k returns you will have abunch of unsafe Investments.

[@MalachiWhite-tw7hl]

That is, and always was, and should be the number one concern for any corporation.

[@Vicarivss]

Videos like this make me love my 2008 Honda.

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

"we are not so popular. But now everybody recognizes that customers want affordability" *Proceeds to sell hellcats for $90k+*

[@JP-xq7fo]

First mistake purchasing $100,000+ vehicle….

[@childlikesaiyan]

Man... I feel like I've seen this show before... Although I feel like it was more angular...

[@eightlights4939]

Its crazy what $100k would buy you years ago. Now it buys you a junk SUV that looks like everything else on the road

[@TubersAndPotatoes]

Maybe IF it was a well built, high quality vehicle. But they're buying plastic junk for that price.

[@jacobtuley2573]

I work in an Autobody shop and I remember when the grand wagoneer came and I worked on one for the first time, I remember just looking over the car and I was just fucking giggling at how terrible to build quality was after I learned the MSRP. All stellantis cars have shitty build quality but with the grand wagoneer was just the icing on the cake. It's priced like a luxury car while having an interior made of so much cheap feeling glossy plastic. 25 thousand dollar KIAs have better feeling interiors. The doors all opened and closed like garbage. None of the moldings lined correctly between panels, which is terrifying because I can't think of a single brand that has worse fitting replacement panels. Once on a grand Cherokee that came in for Warranty because the driver's door didn't close right when they bought the car. We proceeded to get sent a total of 4 doors before we got one that we were able to get to latch smoothly and it still had body lines that didn't meet up correctly with adjoining panels. We have gotten so many wranglers, renegades and Chrysler Pacificas that are less than 3 years old that already have their aluminum doors, hoods, and lift gates corroding because they don't properly prevent galvanic corrosion. It's frankly embarrassing.

[@TheOtherPlayer]

Seems like that lines up with their strategy of having fewer people do the same jobs. Probably pushed at too high a tempo to get stuff done right

[@dbszady]

I work at the Wrangler plant. In my experience a panel will line up in one spot but not perfectly in another. It drives me and my coworkers crazy because we want to our product to be perfect but we can't. I don't know if it's bad design or because they go for the cheapest suppliers. Then as TheOtherPlayer said we do not have enough time to fix these properly because they don't want the line to stop ever. Just write it up. Plus it's hard to keep up when they keep eliminating jobs and passing on the extra work to the remaining workers but expect it to be done in the same amount of time and quality.

[@jacobtuley2573]

@@dbszady yeah this is 100% what I run into all the time with replacement parts in a collision shop. You usually have enough adjustment to make one section line up or another section line up. You only option after that is to split the difference so that neither part lines up as well as I like but both parts are only slightly wrong. Drives me insane. And customers tend to notice, because a lot of people buy the car and don't look all that closely at panels gaps and fitment of parts assuming that if it's brand new it must all fit right, so they they crash it and I repair it, they will upon delivery actually look at the fitment of the parts for the first time ever and notice issues. I've run into situations where we will swap a rear bumper, but when the customer picks it up they actually look closely at their car for the first time and start trying to tell us that we are the reason that their fender is misaligned. Like naw man you bought it like that and up until now have never looked at your car closely. It's hard to take pride in your work when you do everything right but that manufacturer sets you up for failure.

[@genekelly8467]

This tells me that the dies used to stamp the body panels are worn out-they are supposed to replace them after a certain number of hours-once the dies wear out, the parts will go out of tolerance..saving money causing big problems.

[@that90skid72]

Same here on the other side of the pond. I've had a Stellantis SUV (not Jeep though) as a rental car for few days. Looks great at first, same for the dashboard. But after a day or two, I realized how cheaply made it was. Only hard cheap plastics everywhere else outside of the dashboard, which could break at any time....and it sold for no less than 45k usd equivalent. Taking your customer for imbeciles never ever is a winning strategy.

[@darth3pio]

Stellantis looks like a company destined for liquidation.

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

MSRP went up 61% since 2019.

[@covert0overt_810]

idiots kept paying… vote with your wallet

[@B_22_5]

Unions destroying us built cars

[@Itsmarkyoung]

My friend’s mom has one and my God, the quality on the inside is horrendous. The amount of plastic, the center console, the dash, the doors. And it all creaks and crunches when you press on it, in a $100k car. And that’s not even mentioning the engine issues and ride issues, WOOF.

[@mikeb5352]

It's also, in my opinion, one of the absolute ugliest SUVs out right now.

[@Itsmarkyoung]

@ right, in the same class you have much better looking options like the Lincoln Navigator, Chevy Suburban, Cadillac Escalade, all better looking than the Wagoneer

[@raymondfrye5017]

​@@Itsmarkyoung Rolling trashcans ,I say

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

I'll counterpoint. My wife has one and we love it. Interior is actually really nice. Engine (V8) is strong and has never had any issues (we pull a boat like it's not even there). Ride quality is excellent. There have been some minor issues with things like the lift gate and software, all of which have been covered under warranty by our local dealership without issue. Looks are subjective, but she gets tons of complements on it. And before anyone else blasts me about the cost, it was a gift (from family).

[@Itsmarkyoung]

@ I’m glad it’s working for you! And I think being a gift helps too, I guess I’m just a car guy and the wagoneers have cheap materials on the interior compared to other suvs in its class. Hope it continues to serve you well either way!

[@ryanmortenson9445]

I feel like this represents a growing trend in CEO leadership here in the US and probably throughout the world. The growing wage gap between employees and CEOs is very concerning. Boeing is another good example of this. CEOs and shareholders reap all the benefits of cuts while works and consumers suffer the consequences. How will this ever end?

[@ClockworksOfGL]

Stellantis is European and so are the executives. That’s probably why they’re so braindead to American tastes.

[@CarlGerhardt1]

They aren't 'managers' or 'innovators'.....they're just 'looters'.

[@connor3288]

Being a publicly traded company, you could argue, leads to cost cutting like this. Placing profits/share price over long term reputation/build quality/customer loyalty. I thought I heard years ago that it costs $1 billion USD to start a new car company in the usa.. If that is true im sure companies lobbied for regulations to make it harder for new car companies to form and compete.

[@pachlon6375]

maybe like Unitedhealthcare?

[@sortasurvival5482]

​@@pachlon6375except UHC ain't gonna change. Sure they got spooked, but mmw, they ain't gonna change.

[@gokublack316]

There is no problem with cost reduction IDGAF . But I am expecting the prices to go down later not the opposite

[@stevebeschakis9775]

80K for a car? ...only if I'm suffering from a major head injury.