Morgan & West on Penn & Teller: Fool Us S5

[@darklava8559]

Morgan use to be my maths teacher back at school whilst west was a science teacher they would always walk in to each other classes and do a magic trick. Brilliant guys haha.

[@anrasgrave5575]

That's dope!

[@DruNature]

wow lucky guY! Math teachers are usually pretty awesome tbh!

[@ian9outof10]

@@DruNature my maths teacher used to like watching boys shower.

[@laa0fa502]

@@ian9outof10 you were homeschooled?

[@mjsmcd]

whilst is a very british word ha ha

[@sfdntk]

Haha, the part at the end about them being able to infer meaning has got to be the first time a performer has spoken back to Penn in code themselves. Amazing act, so glad I bought the book.

[@dsgreat3]

The reason pen laughed is because that’s how they did the act. That’s how they did the effect, they are sharing the information by using pre set code words.

[@DeadlyLazer]

7:42 oh no Teller's laugh was caught on Penn's mic

[@daveed467]

"We had to relearn all the sounds" Haha lol

[@2Cerealbox]

I like that the guy loudly said "take another" and then the other guy was all surprised that two coins were dropped into the glass.

[@modularcuriosity]

Absolutely one of the best acts on Fool Us. Their style, their mannerisms, their patter, everything about them is wonderful.

[@dddrrr7139]

this "NEXT BIT" is completely impossible. its a thumper NEXT BIT aka NB aka Nebraska

[@19blaktop]

Yeah but, 5'10" and DOB?

[@troyhenry6111]

Completely is 10 letters long

[@carlbarma]

There not using a thumper

I love magician that creates cool characters. IMO, makes everything more... Magical

[@ChrisWilderMagic]

Great stuff chaps. I always love the theatre that you bring to all of your shows. Keep it up.

[@bencox614]

Morgan was my tutor in year 7, it's so good to see all the success they're getting!

[@stvbrsn]

“Everything. We all know what’s known.” Lol

[@WTFlux-lh2tf]

I love you guys! You're easily amongst the best on this here planet...and maybe a few others too!

[@Blondie42]

Love the old school suits, and the classy act, both this time and the one in season 1 in England. A shame you guys didn't get a trophy. Hopefully you can make another appearance in the future.

[@robheusd]

The best part of the trick is how to count the value of all the coins, quickly.

[@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj]

It's so respectful that they let the performers know that they have figured out their trick in a way that does not out it to the audience. (Also we, as the audience, do not want the trick explained, thank you.)

[@MissMaggiemouse13]

Some of us do. Just saying.

[@ML-mx3mm]

Your performances are fantastic. Great stuff!

[@greenmarcosu]

Hands down my favorite act from this show. I love your style and presentation.

[@Zeffer32]

Love these guys, incredible showmen, I'd love to see them live. And for some reason the only thing that stood out to me in this performance is the predictor looking remarkebly similar to theatre GOD Neil Patrick Harris. Especially when he's predicting the entire handful of change at 3:20

[@Latigo]

That was a great piece of showmanship and magic!

[@liggieep]

I used to play a game as a kid that was a much much less complex version of this to mess with friends. I could tell the first time how they were doing it, and I knew immediately this trick was the same one. Seriously impressive though, how much work goes into it both before and during.

[@robertstegmann9260]

Penn is right. The whole thing about hearing the coins really sells it. It seems just plausible enough that it's really impressive, and then it's used to build up to something impossible.

[@cp1cupcake]

I knew someone who could hear coins. He was a math teacher and we used to drop coins in the middle of class for him to ask "who dropped .....?"

[@Shimus36]

A Gentleman's magic trick. Insane urge for cigars and brandy like the posh.

[@corncobjohnsonreal]

This is more what people who think what being a gentleman is gentlemen's magic trick

[@tafadzwamunezvenyu7623]

nice to see these guys again. Very entertaining

[@VaughnJogVlog]

One of their more cryptic responses, but I liked it.

[@angelcano8868]

It wasn’t that hard to figure out at all

[@corncobjohnsonreal]

@@angelcano8868 yeah you'd have to be stupid or dumb to not figure it out with a little thought

[@Nuclearumbrella31]

@@corncobjohnsonreal no

[@NeoRipshaft]

lol, I love how Penn & Teller come up with rather witty ways to convey meaning to the performers, and these fellows were able to retort nicely as well =p

[@ryanrusch3976]

Not very cryptic at all, Penn literally said "Kodak" which completely fooled me and I was awed by their performance.

[@bscutajar]

what did kodak tell you?

[@jacobevansonsolomon9326]

@@bscutajar he mentions that it's a "Code Act"... By using words they speak as Codes .. so that the other person can understand

[@evilwatermelon99]

Hmmm comments are still disabled on the last penn and teller vid. Maybe there was a deck switch?

[@LadyDragonsblood]

If that were the case, the producers would not have allowed the fool. The producers, who are all master magicians know how the trick works ahead of time, from the acts. This is done so that a judge's decision can be made in case Penn and Teller make a wrong guess. Maybe they disabled the comments because of stupid and rude people.

[@jmpgoalie93]

Here's a super-late reply for you! It's not possible for a contestant to cheat or lie about the method. The show has a professional magician on the production team. Before they are allowed to do the trick on stage, they have to show him how the trick is done. Penn and Teller don't know the method in advance, but the producer does. If they had tried to lie, they'd have gotten caught, and would definitely not have been invited back to do a second act.

[@GiveMeThatLetter]

Well, if this is indeed what people say it is, then I suppose the best way to compare this form of magic is to "The Purloined Letter" by Edgar Allan Poe. Mislead the audience by making them believe that something is more complicated than it is. Am I correct?

[@DyrianLightbringer]

Out of curiosity, is Mr West using a cane as part of his costume now, or did he suffer an injury of sorts?

[@tomrichards9843]

Rob's had knee trouble for a long time. He needs the cane (or at any rate a stick/support of some kind).

[@MelePaasi]

Great job guys, although you didn’t fool Penn and Teller you did such great work 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Hozzckharr]

they're talking in code for the coin part.

[@jamesbevan9939]

Right. "Happy" probably indicates penny. "Thank you" is two dimes (maybe "Thanks" would be for just one). No idea how they're getting the exact amount for all the change unless the way he drops them into the glass corresponds to a dollar/cent conversion, or he finds a way to switch the change in the tray with a pre-determined amount.

[@carlbarma]

@@jamesbevan9939 there’s no switch. I’m a magician and was their volunteer at Blackpool magic convention a few years back I knew how much chat I had expecting this routine

[@cp1cupcake]

It is possible to do the coin part, maybe not the full amount but the smaller amounts of coins, just by hearing. I had a math teacher who memorized the different sounds coins made when dropped.

[@MrScottyMillz]

Notice the pause at 4:00 then says Ninety.. This could be the word for 9/September. There are without doubt more words but why the pause when its pretty obvious it was a nickel

[@nathan_aus]

As a non American I thought it wasn't sure what the coin was, but that probably makes more sense.

[@MrScottyMillz]

HSV Guy Also what is the point of the cane? probably has a small button that can send a signal, maybe inside the other guy's shoe that has a little node that pushes or spikes the bottom of his foot

[@Ginric99]

I think I get how the coins part is done, the driving licence I am trying to work out, will be going off to my fav magic shop to see if I can find a book or effect that helps me understand :)

[@dmr778810]

You could just buy their effect and learn exactly how it works on Vanishing Inc. It's a lot of intricate detail, but they progress from simple binary to their full routine here.

[@codyheiner3636]

Wow, so they are realllly good at encoding numbers into their speech.

[@kathrynnpetersen8876]

I glad when he said hark! Foul play that Alyson did not copy his arm raise motion

[@uzijn]

Would you please enable the comments on your video of you on series 1? It'd be nice to talk to people about that trick too and I think it's a shame that we're not able to. Thank you.

[@DOMO7N]

If you tube comments fail always try reddit :p Google the "act name + fool us + reddit"

[@shlemp5183]

same style of trick was done by the '30s' couple. they use their shoes to send messages. the cloyventes used the same thing on AGT

[@michaelreynolds3592]

Im guessing Penningtons (my sincere apologies if I misspelled) is a shoe store?

[@Crystal99010709]

Michael Reynolds no. its a store for big people

[@MahyarGoodarz]

He said Piddingtons

[@michaelreynolds3592]

Crystal Smith ... yeah... I forgot they invented Google.

[@robrob2982]

Nothing to do with stores. The Piddingtons were a husband and wife mentalist team prominent in the middle of 20th century. They had an extremely sophisticated coding system that enabled them to perform impressive acts.

[@ZER0--]

@@robrob2982 If I remember rightly the one trick involved his wife in a plane and him in a studio, and she guesses a poem sent in by a viewer. Something about blithe spirits.

[@classicmail8239]

Notice everything is number based. Value of coins, number of state, values of height, date of birth, etc, all of which Morgan has memorised and trained to receive. My guess is some kind of wireless morse code, fed to him somewhere on his body, for example Nebraska's state number is 37, memorised 3-7, and thus translated into Nebraska via Morgan's memory of each state number.

[@XistoKente]

8:03 If Penn was correct, it was "code act"

[@sfdntk]

You're on the right track, it's just not the right method.

[@jamesbevan9939]

By any chance do you have the video of your performance that was only shown on the ITV website?

[@jaydenli9531]

speech code memorisation I would guess

[@neelparmar6690]

Yep, confirmed by how they responded to Penn's guess, it's all about the words the short guy used.

[@aditsu]

It's amazing that they can convey so much information though. Even with that assumption, it still seems magical.

[@FutureReference]

Yep penn said along the lines of how you use sound to make the trick

[@brahmnw]

Thank you Kanye, very cool

[@karlbusebing6434]

what is this trick called

[@rickysmyth]

You know, all you need to do in order to do this trick yourself is get a copy of the codebook that they used to rehearse this. The talent that they have is the ability to memorise it all whereas the rest of us would have to do it while looking at the book I'm not sure if you could call this a magic trick or a demonstration of memory

[@tzuyd]

Alyson doesn't get a silhouette card :(

[@georgeposten358]

Who carries $2.5 of change.

[@rango_unchained]

Nebraskans apparently.

[@bheasy1]

I got $3.05 just now! You're right, why do I have so much?! I'm not from Nebraska or anything 🤯🤣

[@titavaughns7698]

Pretty such I got $12 of change in my wallet

[@snap-off5383]

Plants

[@LadyDragonsblood]

@@snap-off5383 Not allowed by the producers of the show.

[@Folsomdsf2]

like the trick, I would just use a wireless remote in the cane to signal via code for everything.

[@Regulardryad]

You wouldn't need to. He's replacing the coins and he replaced the license. He never asks "is this your" until the participant catches on that he needs to answer yes

[@xrlylyl4089]

Charles Bamford no its code through communication, research morgan and west and listen to penns code

[@XistoKente]

@@Regulardryad Penn practically screamed "CODE ACT". There was no need to replace anything, the trick is in the words.

[@DrakeOola]

@@XistoKente Not to mention the entire first act of guessing the first coins could've easily been planned. If you take a bunch of coins there will definitely be 2 dimes and a penny. Hardest part was probably counting all the coins on the fly

[@ralphralpherson9441]

These guys rule...Period

[@bzqp2]

People are talking about some morse-code-shoe-stuff, but they are clearly just talking to eachother all the time. :P All these weird phrases have different meanings encoded in them.

[@classicmail8239]

If I was a time traveller I could stand there and stare Alison Hannigan in the eyes all day! ☺️

[@soffes]

"Well all know what's known" 😂

[@kaidannies]

Really easy enough i guess...the shoes of the guy, who saw all the values was hidden behind his desk while he was filling it in the class...from there a tap "CODEK" Kodak, was all that was needed.

[@carlbarma]

Kodak isn’t referring to a codek

[@teddy143ify]

Perfect performance that you did live for my daughter who still talks about it .....shame you did not fool them again and how they dance around things , yes a amazing performance and showing the Americans how it's done 👏👏👏👏

[@johnmaxwell2023]

trevor sampson showing americans how what is done? How to not fool penn and teller? Dumbfuck Brit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnmaxwell2023]

Hate how they dance around things like trevor sampsons british teeth have always danced around a straight line...😝😝🤣🤣🤣

[@teddy143ify]

John Maxwell they are the best at what they do but a dumb yank like you would not know better, do you know how it's done, Penn and teller could not explain exactly, go to their lecture and then you will realise how good they are or are,

[@jemmacandy6012]

@@teddy143ify I found it rather boring and pretentious tbh... A bit like Britain really.... 😝

[@BlueHen123]

Wow, I don't think anyone here has explained how the trick is done...or at least I am not satisfied with the hints given. Some have suggested shoe sounds. Some suggested it's in their speech patterns. I don't buy either because I rewatched it and I see no real speech pattern to figure out and nothing with the shoes. Penn did mention two things also: Penningtons (which is a big and tall clothing store) and Kodak, which suggests camera play. So is there a camera in the oversized coats? But when does the tall guy have a chance to get the info?

[@littlebacchus216]

The clues are all there in what Penn said and a very flattering comparison.

[@teddy143ify]

No electronic device what so ever , I have met these guys and they are very Humble and nicest guys yo could meet , they told me they had been invited back , basically for them it was just a publicity stunt and a free trip to America, they are Oxford graduates and very cleaver

[@clydebarrigar4858]

It's Piddingtons They says it's a store to throw off everyone but let them know they know how this is done. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Piddingtons

[@LukeLetellier]

Listen to what they say back to P&T at 8:37. They pretty much spell it out.

[@brandondukes6639]

Next bit = Nebraska Quite impossible = 5 10 Thats what I noticed as soon as I heard it.

[@alexandrekassel3794]

Also it's worth mentioning that you guy did it the exact same way that the trick of your first apparition on the show S1, that time Penn and Teller didn't get it because they were led astray by a fake deck switch. (And you obviously by pretending that it was not intended to mislead) . Of course you knew that by that time Penn and Teller would have figured out what the trick was by now, and you knew they would pay attention to this, this time. It was just a symbolic way to close that loop.

[@SeRoAnthem]

They can't "pretend that it was not intended". The producers of the show are also magicians and the trick is explained to them in advance, down to every detail and move.

[@alexandrekassel3794]

Thats not really part of the trick so they can do that without their consent.

[@dannytangeloribaldreviews6310]

Don't be a bitch, Alex.

[@xen32]

If they stopped at coins it would be better, even somewhat believable that he can do this. But driver's license just gives away that something fishy is going on.

[@tristanhuckabee3038]

It's a magic show, you already know something fishy is going on.

[@ZER0--]

@@tristanhuckabee3038 I was just about to make the same comment.

[@glenjamindle]

I don't understand the kodak reference. Was that pertaining to the license?

[@ikramrawat7633]

I think the word Kodak has the sound of 'code' in it, which may be implying that they're using some sort of code words

[@glenjamindle]

Ahh, digital cameras, kodak...digital code

[@Admiral55626]

Mourse code send and received in their shoes

[@BlueHen123]

They are not using shoes for codes. Every word they say has a code in it the other understands. That's how it is done.

[@speider]

BlueHen123 except that the second drop was without words...

[@MrXBT2000]

I'm curious as to whether you can deal with foreign currencies. Back in the days when most people carried coins around, it was not uncommon for someone to carry some exotic ones around after a vacation or certainly if they where tourists visiting a magic show abroad. Also, nice characters and setting.

[@matoatlantis]

First I was kinda fooled it's a skill. Those first throws seemed plausible. But then I noticed I need to listen to the code of magic more. :)

[@richardbello5732]

It was already counted

[@alexandrekassel3794]

Well that one was easy to figure even before they basically gave it up in their response to Penn.

[@rickwyckoff291]

Well done ol' chaps 😁

[@laserbeard]

Wow didnt know pewdiepie was a magician

[@googlandroid176]

They communicated the full amount first

[@shmookins]

Delightfully spooky. :D

[@andersonaldo1340]

How is this a trick? The guy literally knows how much coins are on the tray because its his trick?

[@Ramin2340]

Looool Anderson Aldo are you as dumb as Reebok was when they made that shirt

[@andersonaldo1340]

@@Ramin2340 I bet i can guess how many coins are in my pocket. Because i fucking put them there lmao

[@vicchung]

The audience member put the coins there you dunce.

[@rjbrowner9379]

Who carries $2 worth of change on them?

[@BillM1960]

Great performance

[@littlebacchus216]

One hell of a complement from them.

[@davidbeppler3032]

nice shoes

[@carlbarma]

But alas they could have done this naked

[@bipulbd08]

Clairvoyants in AGT has a extended version of acts.

[@flashback0180]

So a electronic gadget in in the other guys should , tap with toe sends tiny tingling shocks to him

[@Go2Matthew]

Allison has the best job.

[@classicmail8239]

6:39 Well you just gave away part of the trick before even speaking to Penn and Teller, perhaps a sly attempt at misdirecting them, not impressed.

[@leweee]

Classic Mail re learn all the sounds meaning the coins falling into the glass

[@classicmail8239]

Moe Lester I know that. But there was no need to reveal that piece of info, unless it was a decoy. The guy with Alison (Morgan) is a memory guy, he used memory tricks in their first routine to fool P&T reading hand signals. It's possible he could learn the different tones of each coin, but no way possible he could know the tone of 20 coins and know the exact value of the total coins dropped, nor know the details on the driving licence. They use other forms of communication, in the first routine it was hand signals, in this routine I'm not sure what it was unless I research P&T's reveal. Either way saying that was either a slip of the tongue, or a decoy to try and trick P&T into thinking it was purely sound based which it was not.

[@KingRockets]

Dude what are you smoking?

[@FreakinFred08]

I don't understand how that gives away the trick. The whole premise of the trick is for him to identify the coin by sound. But of course that's not really whats happening. They were playing along with the premise even though the act was over already by that point. What else are they supposed to say? "Oh no, Alison, U.S. coins wasn't really a bother because we still use the same coding system. derp a derp."

[@Warios4Christians]

Hehe..code act..

[@iheartzanna1931]

Fooled me. Makes no sense how they did it, or how P&T knew how they did it

[@rickysmyth]

Basically they made up a language that only they know. For example, 2:02 "have a go" translates to a penny. You could do this trick yourself as all you need is a list of all the codes.

[@RikuHino]

Reflections from her eyes

[@corncobjohnsonreal]

Yeah it's obvious he's looking at the refections, you can even read the ID in her eyes in some shots of Alyson. They'd make it more believable if they blindfolded her

[@PeterPorty]

Volunteer is Messi

[@CptCupcake5]

That’s the same dude from AGT

[@LadyDragonsblood]

Who was on AGT? Neither Morgan nor West have been on AGT..... are you thinking of the duo DNA? Those were two different guys.

[@sparramore]

Fell asleep while he counted change

[@MelePaasi]

KODAK = Code Act

[@jamesmcmillan4140]

I HAD A LECTURE FROM THESE PEOPLE

[@maximusmax636]

This would play better if penn or teller could choose the person in the audience. The fact that they dont makes me say ..meh

[@ToastErickson]

The magicians have to reveal to the producers how their trick is done, and the rules of the game don’t allow plants.

[@goonercestlavie]

I was fooled. 😳

[@Platoon3090]

Can you lift your chin a little.

[@wickedsnuk3812]

:( too cheep trick

[@TheGreatBishopYohanVerga]

I feel bad for the 3rd guy who doesn't get his name on the act. ;P

[@oz_jones]

A man needs a name.

[@LadyDragonsblood]

What third guy? The audience member? He wasn't part of the act.... he was just a random audience member who happened to have a handful of change. Nothing odd about having a lot of change in your pocket.... especially in Vegas.

[@scottcornelius7441]

Morse code via the shoes

[@ZER0--]

No.Code via the words they say. And that is why Penn said Kodak, ie code act.

[@AngelLestat2]

I guess the amount of coins and value can be figure out with a good scales under the glass and a computer software, because each coin it weight a specific amount, so the sum up should tell us how many of each coin we have (ignoring the cent coin because nobody will use it). www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/coin-specifications For example: two nickel (10g) + 3 dime (6.804g) + 1 quarter (5.67g) = 22,474g So then an algorithm compare the result with an already calculated table with values from 0 to certain amount of weight, telling us what exact combination of coins that weight represent. Then the info it is transmitted to the magician using an skin contact device with a code. The licence could have been photograph with a tiny camera before enter in the glass. yeah, I know.. this seem like a Sheldon guess :)

[@carlbarma]

Except they could do this nude with just their hands no glass ect. There’s no gimmicks whatsoever

[@Feathetaria420]

If I had to guess, guy is wearing some contact lenses or a single lense that can have an image input from the black spot on the tray, or if other guy is wearing a small camera. In the future, I think people will have contact lenses or fake eyes that record everything they do. People that repel would build fake eyes that aren't recording. xD I could write a story about it. lol

[@ZER0--]

It's based on using a code. Hence why Penn said kodak, meaning code act.

[@farisbirrawi8912]

still havent make my mind wther like t or nt

[@dannykey7744]

I loved allyson clothes last season

[@philiptimdominic7875]

the volunteer looks like ben afleck but thinner

[@LA-fb4cp]

The guy in the crowd was there friend he literally was the only one who raised his hand also look at them talking to each other when they mention the 2 10 cents like they forgot which ones to throw next

[@carlbarma]

Nope

[@carlbarma]

I’ve seen this live as the volunteer n I was no stooge

[@pb6270]

hilarious how people give such shitty incomplete 'explanations' of the tricks in their comments. almost like magic attracts a lot of dishonest, clownish individuals.

[@snap-off5383]

Not near enough assurance that the guy isn't a plant, leaves you just watching going "he could just be a plant".

[@LadyDragonsblood]

Plants and pre-show work (working something out with an audience member) are NOT allowed by the producers of the show. That is their number one rule...and the producers are all master magicians, who know how the tricks are done for judging purposes.

[@LadyDragonsblood]

@@CharlesCornettFL No in the audience is wearing a mic.... they use a boom mike to pick up conversations in the crowd.

[@stormrider8576]

@@CharlesCornettFL They do stop tape to mic up audience members if needed. Or for acts where the audience members are already on stage, the selections are pre-made by the producers, not the magicians. It's well-established fact that stooges are against the rules of the show, so it gets really droll that it's the first guess on every Fool Us video with an audience member.

[@anthonyvermeulen]

I found this one so prolonged, took forever to get nowhere. Sorry gents

[@karimb1724]

Anything is posible with technology 😏

[@carlbarma]

Except this was not technology. They could have done it nude. With everything being transparent

[@oltedders]

WEST! Lose the mullet.

[@M3NTALMAGIC]

ELECTRONIC THUMPER, TEXT MESSAGE----covert, secret communication (penningtons)----WELL DONE though

[@EddFairman]

Nope. No tech involved! They, Morgan and West could have done this exact same act in the 1800's.