Moriarty x Jaffe: Killing Aloy | Sacred Symbols+, Episode 387

[@BRAINDAWG1O1]

Bro the girlfriend's boyfriend into *daughter's boyfriend was hilarious

[@Connor17199]

I was so confused

[@AnthonyMartinez-rz9sl]

“He’s a cool dude.”

[@benarmoore]

Yes! How did Colin not correct him on that one? 😂

[@impotenceaura]

Yeah I thought Jaffe was getting into a poly or cuckolding story! Which would have been way more interesting 😅

[@HCTarik]

I knew I heard that right!

[@Lerkero]

18:55 - "my girlfriend's boyfriend" 🤨 20:55 - "if you want to date my kids..." oooooh...his child's boyfriend

[@victory7763]

COLIN WAS 100% TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON LOL

[@onyxprime9227]

This is the best subscription service I have ever had.

[@richardjoseph4605]

Absolutely agreed

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

Facts!

[@digitalXP13]

This is the best free service I ever had

[@DanRan98]

Can’t get enough of Colin and jaffe

[@boots8562]

Minority Report...hehe. I thought of Kevin 😂

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

What's the lore?

[@MJ-ip7oj]

Kevin’s a minority

[@AllThatJuice-]

​@@linkinparkblink182ro kf used to have a segment called the minority report where'd they'd ask for Kevin or Andy's take on a topic

[@chknrsandTBBTROX73]

My favorite episode of Millennial Libertarian Pothead x Gen X Progressive Pothead just dropped

[@kadabur]

Im addicted to these eps with Jaffe, so much insight and hilariousness mixed with deep topics

[@dark_taco]

Was just thinking it’s been awhile since we had a Moriarty x Jaffe 😊

[@bdre5555]

Sackboy a big adventure is truly excellent, one of the very best Platformers this console generation. Glad to hear Jaffe giving it some props. It still is one of the best looking games this generation as well, it's absolutely gorgeous.

[@X82BIGBLUE82X]

34:50 Colin ready to melt down because Jaffe hates horizon… 😂

[@NEKASABA]

really laughed out loud at what jaffe said there 🤣

[@sprinter1boy]

I enjoy jaffe, but annoys the shit out of me with the amount he talks about horizon even though he's only played about 3 hours of both games in total. He should not be able to have any opinion imo with the lack of hours played in horizon franchise.

[@vidarCRC]

Day without a woman patch! LOL- That was fucking gold!

[@thebacklog6556]

Aloy is an awesome character. There are pretty clear reasons why she acts the way she does. I find the influence of her upbringing and what shes gone through to be compelling. Shes awkward, cocky, antisocial, competitive, curious. No she isnt bubbly, but thats fine with me. Def need a slider for all the hint barks.

[@thefattmish]

This show is wild and that is why I watch it. So many fun topics that I'm interested in. I like that Jaffe has become a wise old wizard of yesteryears and Colin is the grounded guide that allows for the wonderful comments that guide us in our lives.

[@intellectic9155]

WISE!? Dude.... You are lost in the sauce. Jaffe regularly has some of the worst takes out there.

[@thefattmish]

😊​@@intellectic9155

[@BlindMango]

Cracking up at the Bill O'Reilly style title. Jaffe is right though, I've also always thought Aloy is quite honestly just a very boring character, despite her overall character design and the story of the game being interesting. She just seems bothered by everyone she interacts with as if they have no idea what's going on and shows it too.

[@TotallyTed_]

This alien talk is absolutely insane. I love it. Bring it on

[@Bromeostasis]

Blaming the ufo’s on sweet baby is so funny

[@Loopez2284]

I say this in the utmost respect. Stop pumping out quality content every day 😭 I feel like my $10 Patron subscription isn't justified

[@themarcshark]

Now THAT'S simping!

[@MisterK-YT]

Jesus bro. Can you polish my rod off too when ur done with Moriarty’s?

[@San_Juan_Grand_Prix]

Simping too much bro. Tone it down a bit

[@gtnmiggy4327]

I love that Jaffe is so progressive that he has to apologize for saying things that most of us are already thinking because he doesn’t want to offend anyone.

[@Kevxtreme21]

Finally this got uploaded

[@Collier990RHCP]

Jaffe is correct in his counter to the cycle of game to film and back again. People are starting to become sick of remakes in cinema or no originality. As a player I love GOW and TLOU as an example but I don’t want be bombarded by these games. Colin is a big advocate of letting things lie for a number of years so this logic makes no sense to me

[@Kevxtreme21]

I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet but usually I feel like Colin just understands that that kind of stuff makes sense from the business side of things regardless of what people actually want

[@555scubasteve555]

And breathe. I'm ready for this.

[@spoileralert6935]

Absolutely love Horizon for the lore. Aloy is a pretty boring personality wise.

[@RealMisterDoge]

I would love to see a Last Stand Media DND campaign once or twice a month, it would be such a blast

[@bikiminhas2315]

Also, Jaffe, churn is huge in the tv streaming world. That's why they're going back to the old tv model with commercials. Having a thousand things on your service doesn't keep ppl. Look it up.

[@DavidJaffeGames]

Yes, I am aware. I'm almost certain I even said as such. It's the main reason most stopped dropping every episode of a series day 1. But they all have plans/attempts to keep churning out (including pay less for a year vs. monthly) and game subs will need to do the same. What's your point?

[@bikiminhas2315]

@@DavidJaffeGames That this streaming Utopia is a long ways away.

[@JonnyHyperbole2090]

If you're only eating one meal a week, a pile of shit on a plate will taste good.

[@thefattmish]

Also, playing The Bureau: XCOM Declassified while listening to this episdoe is top-notch synergy.

[@Kasual7]

23:45 Jaffe is absolutely cuckoo 😂

[@FreshWitcher]

No way Colin was going to play Indiana Jones on Xbox

[@victory7763]

I'm doing the same. I'm playing all the Xbox games when they come to PlayStation. I have a mid range PC, but I may as well wait. PS5 is better than my current PC build

[@all4jet]

Colin understands the Alcubierre drive but struggles with condensation. I love this man, haha

[@boohoogamer1713]

always love papa jaffe on sacred

[@MrSlicksuperman]

Jaffe looks like Santa in this episode

[@richardjoseph4605]

Jaffe episodes always feel like Christmas to me

[@jonbarnettvevo]

You really can't prove he's not Santa

[@Gr8saiyaman88]

I'm like Colin, I have to really hate a game to not finish it. It's also hard for me to start a game while I'm already playing another. I've wondered why for years, and I think it stems from not getting a lot of games growing up since they were expensive. Thus, if I got a game, I'd play it to death, knowing I wouldn't play another for a while. I also owned a handful of games on SNES and N64, but rented one almost every weekend, so there was always that challenge of beating them before the return date.

[@JazGalaxy]

For me it’s partly a mentality of that I can’t hate something if I haven’t fully experienced it, and also a desire to want to “see it out”.

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

It’s not Herman…it’s HER man! *Jaffe PunINTENTIONAL 😂

[@knleonhart]

It’s actually Hermen

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

@@knleonhart ahh thanks for missing the pun, the fun, and the beauty that is wordplay and communication. You must be the guy at parties that goes home with a woman every time

[@knleonhart]

@@benjaminamouroux8395 I actually make jokes all the time, but thanks for the insult

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

@@knleonhartyou’re welcome sir. Thanks for stepping on my joke. I love a good heckler, especially when they fancy themselves a “comic”

[@knleonhart]

@@benjaminamouroux8395 I’ve never really known LSM to care about the comments or jokes in them, so I don’t really make them here

[@drgonzo123]

It saddens me no one I know (besides Jaffe) has played or talked about Pepper Grinder. It’s a 6 hour, $15 indie that’s pure joy start to finish. If I even convince one of you reading this to check it out, I’m happy. (It’s on Steam and Switch, sorry no PS5 port yet)

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

I was thinking bout it, I'll probably wait til it's on GP or Extra though

[@Tatman2TheResQ]

​@@linkinparkblink182roOr it could never come to those and the studio closes.

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

@@Tatman2TheResQ lol I buy plenty of games but sometimes I wait for certain games to come to a service (just as I would see a movie in a theater vs waiting for others). It only got solid reviews, not great. It also looks like a game that will probably land on those services. I’m trying to buy a house and pay for a wedding and my fiancée is a teacher man, I can’t keep every game developer afloat!

[@Tatman2TheResQ]

@@linkinparkblink182ro I wasn't judging you... lol

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

@@Tatman2TheResQ oh ok I thought you were saying because I didn’t buy it, the studio would close

[@bikiminhas2315]

Sony has plenty of original films. Jaffe, you're outta touch with general media.

[@DavidJaffeGames]

I didn't say they didn't have plenty of original films. I said they don't own any meaningfully successful tentpole IPS in the movie space. What, you gonna make a theme park ride out of SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE and HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA? I think they have a few that at one time could have put them on a tentpole trajectory (MEN IN BLACK, and I still think JUMANJI MAY have some gas left in the tank after the recent #2) but short of those (since they can't really use Spidey outside of movies I don't think) which films are you talking about?

[@spoileralert6935]

Can anyone link where to find the reveals and what not on the alien stuff, er interdimensional beings stuff?

[@InGameProductionz]

[REDACTED]

[@mattj2692]

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[@bdre5555]

Astros playroom is one of the most beloved Platformers this console generation, I'm not sure why you guys don't think astro bot is going to sell. It's a candidate for game of the year, a full-sized Astro game is a lot of people's dreams come true. I've already got the game pre-ordered, and I can't wait to pre-order the astrobot Dualsense controller.

[@Daniel_D-bo]

why don't Colin & David collaborate on a small indie title together?

[@wairen5020]

Has jaffe ever made a small title?

[@Daniel_D-bo]

im not sure but I wish he could make a hit game because he deserved it

[@donquitotalrecall]

I don't know what people expect from the SGF opening event when Microsoft hast bought out most of the biggest franchises that usually would announce stuff in those kind of events. Also the Xbox showcase was part of the SGF, it was part of the schedule, so there's that.

[@digitalXP13]

My kid is into PlayStation because of me, he now is asking for Astro Bot, so there is cross over due to adults with kids!

[@NoNameMnk]

The conversation, at least part of it, between Jaffe and Totilo is around here somewhere.. Look for 'Stephen Totilo BTFO by David Jaffe'. This isn't to stir up anything but Jaffee brought it up so this gives more context in case anyone was curious. I didn't know that the fences between them had been mended so that's cool. I don't think the real problem was with Stephen but rather the Kotaku 'reporter'. I can respect Stephen for standing up for his employee but that doesn't necessarily mean he was right.

[@TheMaestro116]

Nice to see the Jaffster again. As always, he's a riot.

[@ayo6980]

Colin and Jaffe 🤌🏻

[@GummiD]

The Days Gone defender hates Horizon?

[@pablohalcon]

Bad Santa

[@killerdude35]

Jaffe, if you havent seen the documentary about the last Blockbuster Video thats still in operation in Oregon, you should! Its fascinating!

[@viktormustapic]

We also need a SSxDD soon

[@salmark9080]

There’s a clip of Alex jones talking about inter dimensional spiritual beings in 2016 lol

[@dodgethis1986]

I would trade every single live service game on the market for just a couple well made 20 hour singleplayer game. You have Ubisoft games that take 50 hours to finish but launch in a broken state and get patched/updated with DLC for 2 years. And i look at those games like "cool, why don't you just release them in 2 years as a fully complete and finished product?" Which brings me to the next issue is early announcements. Game is teased today, gets a proper announcement in a year, we get a story trailer a year after that and a gameplay trailer a year after that with a release date in the next 12 months, that gets pushed back by 6 months and when it comes out it's broken and unfinished for another year or two. This has to stop. Keep the game under wraps until it's 12 months from release, make your whole announcement BS and marketing circus and then release the game when it's actually done. Maybe it needs another patch or two but that's it. No DLC, no nothing - because the game is done. Nobody needs this pseudo-live service bullcrap creeping into singleplayer games. At most i'm buying somewhere between 5 and 10 games a year and i don't play anything for weeks or months. For example this year, 2024, i've played 3 new games. Ready or Not, BG3 and Dragons Dogma 2. Why? Because all the other games that came out are either live service or broken.

[@boohoogamer1713]

we need a triple A cop game. the last really good cop games was on ps2 with true crime and the getaway

[@digitalXP13]

Siren is one of my favourite horror titles next to resident evil!! They should have let them work on a ps5 either remake or reboot or sequel

[@zipiol.]

would love to hear more about aliens and 4th dimensional beings next time.

[@jzilla1234]

Hey jaffe. Those interdimensional beings are straight up jinns. There is a whole scientific analysis of the jinns by classical islamic scholars (who were also scientists) and they basically describe string theory using the language of their time. One of the qualities of jinns is that their world is parallel to ours. But we can't see it. Touch it. Or enter it However, they can see us, and they have the power to travel in and out of our dimension and back to theirs. It's a fascinating world. Quite scary too.

[@AloisWeimar]

No they are not

[@jzilla1234]

@@AloisWeimar when did you get the internet?

[@fightingddog]

Bro jaffee at the beginning made me rewind like 50 times… he said “my girlfriends boyfriend” im like dude what!? Lmao he meant his daughters boyfriend

[@mutantmo]

I love the fact that I was able to catch that Jonathan Frakes reference. 😂

[@raul_219]

As much as I love these discussions about the state of playstation, are they too small, can they compete, etc. Am I the only one that thinks that it just doesn’t matter anymore? I have a feeling that we have enough evidence (5 generations of sony consoles) to say that as long as they don’t price themselves out of reach like they did at the beginning of the ps3 cycle and millenials like me keep buying the console until we die of old age they’ll be just fine regardless of how many first party games they are able to produce each year.

[@sam805236]

Finally someone says what I've been thinking, Aloy has the personality of a wet paper bag! BTW, yes the sales for the game are very high but I've never met someone who's played the game lol. People I've talked to have played or know of Uncharted, TLOU, Spiderman, GOW but never Horizon which puzzles me. So who's buying these copies en masse yet it's largely not something which has breached pop culture?!?

[@williamocarroll1982]

I bought both collectors editions and the DLC for both. I also got the platinum trophy on both games. I really like the IP

[@aooaooapoooopa]

Colin, the issue isn’t that you talk about Xbox. The issue is that it’s obvious when you talk about Xbox you want PlayStation to be the dominant player in gaming and hold the platform keys as it will. Because they didn’t do things in a more PlayStation like manner leads to you scrutinizing them. You’ve openly said you would stop gaming if PlayStation went away in the past so the whole bit about “you wouldn’t care if they did” isn’t really believable. You say people cast their fanboyness onto your analysis but your analysis is riddled with it. You could be a PlayStation expert AND game elsewhere. Trying to pretend like that wasn’t possible could truly only be sold to a 5 year old. You’re not always playing PlayStation exclusive games and you’ve admitted there were games you had interest in on other platforms but just didn’t play them because they weren’t on PlayStation. That’s literal fanboyism. If it’s about PLAYING GAMES it shouldn’t matter if they’re on PS. However, that’s the end factor obviously for you when you’re deciding to play a game.

[@knleonhart]

Love Ashly Burch, hate Aloy. Does anyone in this company like Mythic Quest for god sakes?

[@Youngblaise2]

I agree with Jaffe. Aloy gotta be hotter 🥵🔥

[@JoysticksJeff]

i listened to this on patreon weeks ago and the look on my face when i found out g.i. joe guy runs the toy store in my city, ive got to go tell him to stand down!

[@Moeron86]

Mica will be upset to hear colin has relations with his neighbors 😅

[@Hobo613]

Dear Colon Ei: 30/30 Christian Lattnier before metioning Reggie Miller as the all time VS Knicks Villain ???? You have easily lost any brodude status lol😅

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

Nintendo combined with Roblox, Minecraft, Fortnite have mopped up all the young gamers. Even dads won't spend on games when their kids just gravitate towards the Sinister Six types games (Cog expression).

[@johnnada6855]

Colin and Papa Smurff... a celebrity from the 80s.... lol

[@sprinter1boy]

Great episode, just missing some VR2 discussion 😊

[@Hersonmaya]

My favorite duo ❤

[@Daniel_D-bo]

why does jaffee have that green screen picture behind him?

[@wakkaconsulting]

Wait link me something to catch up on the alien stuff and what this Disclosure is

[@mysticmase]

Right?! Same

[@mattj2692]

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[@Faztkiller88]

Streaming isn't going to happen

[@bikiminhas2315]

Jaffe needs to let go. His future for gaming is something I don't want or like.

[@infinitysynthesis]

America. The home of the conspiracy theory.

[@Tatman2TheResQ]

Love these talks.

[@Hamerparsa]

I see these two as kane and Lynch of games media 😂

[@IfYouSeekCaveman]

I get so angry every time Colin starts saying "you didn't buy Japan Studio games." YES I DID. I get that he's trying to call out pretenders and posers, but he acts like LITERALLY NOBODY bought Japan Studio's games.

[@Jon-eo1lz]

I commented the same thing on patreon. The people who listen to multiple playstation podcasts a week probably bought Japan Studios games. The people who are sad that Japan Studio is gone are most likely sad because they liked the games when they bought and played them no? Like Colin, dude, you’re not the only one who supported Vita either.

[@TheOff1ceFan]

Jaffe has been bitter towards Sony ever since he left them. He tries so hard not to show it but it’s clear he doesn’t like them lol

[@myownprisun]

Machine games games games

[@imniallg]

“A DAY WITHOUT A WOMAN PATCH” 😂😂

[@mercurymachines4311]

I’ve been looking for a reason to buy a Series X from day one and although the Xbox showcase was good I still don’t have a reason to buy one. I won’t buy one for a bunch of mediocrity.

[@salmark9080]

If you wait they’ll probably launch the next generation earlier than PlayStation and that could be worth it

[@mercurymachines4311]

@@salmark9080 I really just care about the games and Xbox consistently fail in that regard unfortunately and it’s just gotten worse in recent years.

[@DLan720]

I love this idea that xbox “doesn’t have games” simply because it only has literally every game except for a couple 3rd person action games and a nerdy JRPG that didn’t sell well anyways.

[@tonylavagnaart3865]

I bet Colin's RPG is set during WW2

[@RammingSpeed]

It's Civil War era and the main character will be a former slave

[@tonylavagnaart3865]

@@RammingSpeed I wasn't far off then

[@admiralalyssa]

I love Horizon's world, but man, the characters, especially Aloy, are unbearable. Platnium'd the first one, but Aloy wouldn't shut up in the second one, so I dropped it.

[@RussoBayern]

10 minute praise D&D conversation in a Video Game centric podcast, and no mention of BG3 :(

[@RealMisterDoge]

Does anyone have a link to this alien disclosure they talk about?

[@mattj2692]

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[@MattMontedoro]

Did I miss something why are they talking about aliens disclosure?

[@Cullenprime]

That toy store is in my area lol

[@MrAhriman42]

Horizon 1's story had good fundamentals; like Dragon Age 1. Now I know why 2 felt so off; the writer changed. As I played it I developed the creeping suspicion that the writing team had become full of people I hated, people with incredibly #currentyear opinions and smug attitudes, who talk about "whiteness" a lot. It felt like the first game's supporting cast was done away with and replaced with fresh lickspittles, and Aloy became a climate-change activist annoyed that everyone else doesn't care about her cause as much as she does.

[@theneonpact6578]

Santa?

[@daynmitchell7543]

Honest question because I do, but who else listens to kinda funny and last stand still? I’ve listened to both this whole time(while I do prefer last stand)

[@ryanhodgson5979]

Wait does Colin make games

[@ToxMod]

18:52 😂

[@MrBrownie2310]

JAFFEEEEE

[@MJ-ip7oj]

I Agree with Jaffa Cake on horizon/aloy. Boring characters, bad voice acting, B movie level sci fi trash. Gameplay is great. I hate the tribal aesthetic to the game, there are left overs of tanks and cars in the world, but they can’t figure out backpacks.

[@SweetBabylnc]

Please dont blame us for ufos ! Thanks

[@EdwinCloude]

I think you should make an episode about the UFO Stuff

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

They have talked SO MUCH about aliens though, just look up older constellations

[@adamroot2973]

Colin. Plz dont use ai for art.

[@BBOT62]

1:17:15

[@johnnada6855]

Aloy SUCKS, but the concept of Horizon is good, in the sense of the post apocaliptic future where machines took over and are kinda like animals and people are like cavemen, why does ALOY sucks ??, the same reason ELLIE SUCKS, are feminist fantasy characters, an as always are nothing but bitter women that are perfect at everything, is the Rey problem in starwars, the woke fantasy characters don´t work, because they want to make heroes out of narcisists, woke is a about narcisism and being paranoid about everything, you can´t have an interesting character like that, the rason Lara Croft worked is because she was a cartoon and not an in your face feminist with feminist one liners, the reason Jill Valantine worked is because she was a normal young woman that made you feel weak and vulnerable to the horror, also Jill is a normal woman, not a woke lesbian, Horizon SUCKS just like Last of Us 2 SUCKS pretty bad, who would have thought that Joel was a better protagonist and the game would have been better if it was around his stories

[@lastofanancientbreed8616]

I got kicked off the patreon for posting the story spoilers for last of us 2, I did my best to try to warn a community who I thought would be receptive but no I was met with public death threats on Colin’s last stand Facebook group

[@johnnada6855]

@@lastofanancientbreed8616 You did well, Colin is delusional, he actually thinks he can be accepted by Neil Drukmann and the woke people, when they betrayed him and drukmann and his team literally fired 90% of the naughty dog staff cause woke reasons, the biggest cancer in the industry, you did well my friend

[@magnainsomnia]

Colin thinks he's the only person who supported Japan Studio games, like LOL. Get off your high horse man.

[@SamNewman1984]

why all the comments from one month ago? anyways, just wanted to say its fascinated how J-ws have rallied behind trump and right wing politics of late. Many J-sh leaders take credit for creating and implementing the left, now the y abandon it?

[@richardjoseph4605]

Because this was on Patreon first

[@Cullenprime]

Starfield didn't do anything? It only gave Game Pass the biggest increase in numbers at the time of release!

[@lastofanancientbreed8616]

And Now?

[@TUKMAK]

I dont like this guy