Mormon News Update: August 13, 2024 🫂

[@sarahpinho1114]

Growing up in the church I always believed I was surrounded by safe people, when in fact they were the least safe .. it's unfortunate but I'm very glad to be away from it and progressing in my recovery.

[@AFGuyTrumpet1965]

I've never been a Mormon, but I was abused by a babysitter when I was 6. Thank you for this, and I am proud of you.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

I am so sorry for what happened to you. Abuse of children is so insidious. I hope you have found the resources you need to heal.

[@jonjahr3403]

Thank you for doing this video. As a victim of childhood S A i was lucky enough to have a bishop who did the right thing. And a retired child psychologist he even set up the meeting for us with the local police. However, because of that, for years i operated under the belief that church leaders always Chose The Right in those kinds of cases. Then, about 7 years ago, i discovered the truth. The church covering up abuse and punishing whistle-blowers like my friend Sam Young. And i have spoken against the church's actions ever since. And, tbh I'm much happier now than i ever was towing the churchs line.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

I am so glad you got the proper help. That is amazing. I wish it happened every time (and it could with widespread comprehensive training). Thank you for speaking up. Sam Young is a hero!

[@jonjahr3403]

@@GenerallyUnquotable Yes, he is amazing, but so are you.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

@@jonjahr3403 Thank you! ❤

[@jonjahr3403]

@@GenerallyUnquotable Welcome!

[@big-daddy-o8576]

Damn girl! You went straight for the jugular today.

[@natalies4375]

What a bomb episode. So glad you said the truth and didn’t hold back (even though you probably did, it’s infuriatingly heartbreaking.) Thank you!!

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Thank you for your kind and supportive words. They mean a lot. I debated for hours whether or not to actually do this episode and when I was done, I sat and cried (still am off and on). The church has hurt so many people. I hope this can validate victims.

[@SteveSmith-os5bs]

Elder Scott was a real piece of work. I'm glad to be out of the organization.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

I'm glad to be out too. Especially so I don't have to continually find ways to justify the church in abuse situations.

[@alamoclayton0306]

Thank you for this detailed and needed video.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Thank you for your support. This particular one took a lot out of me. I hope it is helpful.

[@sophronia5991]

Thank you for sharing ❤. I love your content!!!

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Thank you for the support! ❤

[@haroldwhite5761]

It took me too many years to learn that there are few if any safe places for the vulnerable in Utah. Thank you for covering this, we can't afford to let this issue go until culture and laws change to more pro-human and sensible practices. NOT just words on a Church website that don't reflect truth and reality. Let's be blunt about that Christ quote so it's not so easy to self-gaslight: Jesus advocated death penalty for child abusers. With a generations-long pattern of protecting predators that continues to this day, the LDS Church reveals whoever it is following is NOT Jesus Christ. It saddens me that the Church could've changed this at any time and still hasn't.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Yes. Thank you.

[@ruthbaker4021]

I left the Mormon Church nearly 20 years ago. I spent 15 years not being interested in any religion and didn’t even want the label of agnostic or atheist...i was that committed to not being committed to anything. A few years ago had a change of heart and became a Christian. In order to volunteer with the children at my current church, volunteers must pass a police background check. It seems like the LDS church would benefit from doing that, too, instead of just relying on church records and the Spirit for revelation on who to extend callings to.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

It's the very least they could do.

[@mangle40]

Lawyers called first NOT law enforcement. Convincing victims to forgive is policy. HUGE LIE!!! Thank you for all you do. Expose them all.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

My mom is still begging me to "just forgive."

[@steveambrose2349]

Sure…the church “forgives” as it sues the heck out of the small towns that insist the church honor and the sustain the law….

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

@@steveambrose2349 The church cannot be bothered to be held to the standards it sets for its members.

[@drclarkelkins]

I have heard about the annotation thing on someone's church record before, but just for homosexuality. I've never heard of an abuser having their record annotated.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Same. This was news to me.

[@nowlwane9623]

How it should have read: we take abuse seriously and false allegations seriously. If the person lies about abuse or abused anyone, they will be punished by the law of the land and punished by the church as well. We do not tolerate abuse or the destruction of a person's reputation. The truth will be discovered for everyone to see.

[@user-ij5ru7ox2i]

This is ALL SO bad. I’ve never seen the actual recording of Oaks no apology line-the visual of him aggressively pointing his finger at us really adds another layer.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

He is very sure of himself.

[@JaredSJones82]

Even when they are required as they are in CA they tell their leaders not to report!

[@Sara-ce1yf]

The LDS religion, hides alot of mankinds true history. SLC is a great example and Ogden . Its amazing they have the balls to do it .

[@chrisdavisproud600]

Oh My Wow! The church doesn’t take ANY of these precautions or measures to protect or support victims! These are blatant lies!!! 😡😤🤬😖😠👿

[@chrisdavisproud600]

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[@chrisdavisproud600]

This is my story.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

The church's one most important precaution is protecting the good name of the church. End of story.

[@chrisdavisproud600]

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[@jillherbst9054]

So dumb to disfellowship the victim.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Hurtful, damaging, abusive, dumb. Yes.

[@paulpinecone2464]

Excuse me, but it takes a lot of bravery for a large institution to be willing to go on record as claiming that they care about something. Do you understand the work that goes into conveying an impression? An organization has to have many meetings and levels of buy-in in order to arrive at an official policy of something like compassion. There are angles to be considered, questions of what is appropriate or might be misconstrued. If you are one who has never faced the weight of a construal, I do not think you are in a position to judge. As our savior declared: First take the clause out of your own certificate of incorporation before you make a possibly defamatory statement about another's.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

It takes even MORE bravery to actually care.

[@paulpinecone2464]

@@GenerallyUnquotable Why this... this is brilliance! Not just to claim to care, but to claim to *actually* care! Our department of attitude will be reaching out to you concerning the licencing of your sympathy-related stance product. If it is found to play well in test markets, I believe we will be able to offer favorable terms for a long term feel arrangement.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

@@paulpinecone2464 that would require action on their part. I don't think they will be buying. 😭

[@clearstonewindows]

"let me get this straight" Who you first start by saying something he doesn't say and then follow it up with something he didn't say. His statement is a great clarification and I love that actions speek lowder than words. He at no point said we won't apologize.

[@pamcatello9136]

What are you tallking. About, im confused 😕😐🙃😳😔😅😕😢 you dont have any thing better to do then confuse. People and hack at a church that has nothing to do with abuse

[@brettpinion4233]

Why reject biblical truth? We are commanded to test any teacher or "prophet" to see if it conflicts with previous revelation. The bible tells us to watch out for false teachers and examine the scripture just like the Bereans did to see if what the Apostle Paul was teaching was truth. Acts 17:11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. Test Joseph Smith against the words of God Jesus affirmed. Luke 24:44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members. Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." & "Is there any God besides me?.. I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none like Him. LDS teaches that there is. "He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did" (King Follett Sermon) Either the BIBLE or LDS is FALSE.

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

Or...hear me out..they are both based on myth. 😮

[@brettpinion4233]

@@GenerallyUnquotable Friend. You might not be aware of the evidence for the life of Jesus. Evidence exists that Jesus was God in the flesh in the letters of Paul, written between 20 and 30 years (50 to 60 AD) after the crucifixion. A couple of decades later (70 to 80 AD) , the New Testament Gospels were written, which do appear to contain first-hand testimonies. Byron McCane, archaeologist and historian of religions and Judaism at the Atlantic University of Florida, both the baptism and the crucifixion are stories that the first Christians are unlikely to have invented, since neither of them “supports their interests in any way,” "the crucifixion was a humiliating punishment reserved for criminals.” In year 93 AD, the Pharisee historian Flavius ​​Josephus left in his work Jewish Antiquities at least one indisputable reference to James( leader of the church in Jerusalem) & the “brother of Jesus." Josephus specified which Jesus he was referring to by adding the phrase “who is called Messiah,” or, since he was writing in Greek, Christos. The longer passage in Josephus’s Jewish Antiquities (Book 18) that refers to Jesus is known as the Testimonium Flavianum. After extracting what appear to be Christian additions, the remaining text appears to be pure Josephus. In year 110 AD the Roman governor Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan that early Christians would “sing hymns to Christ as to a god.” Many scholars also believe Roman historian Suetonius references Jesus in noting that Emperor Claudius had expelled Jews from Rome who “were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus.” Roman Senator Tacitus also wrote about Jesus explaining that the founder of the sect of Christians was executed during the mandate of Emperor Tiberius, when Pontius Pilate was governing in Judea for crimes against the state, and a religious movement of his followers sprang up in his wake. In Annals of Imperial Rome, a 1st century history of the Roman Empire written A.D. 116 by the Roman senator and historian Tacitus. Chronicling the burning of Rome in A.D. 64, Tacitus mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed “the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius.” Many scholars also believe Roman historian Suetonius references Jesus in noting that Emperor Claudius had expelled Jews from Rome who “were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus.” Atheist, historian and Bible expert Bart Ehrman vigorously defends the historicity of Jesus, and provides a compelling portrait of the man from Nazareth. "The Jesus you discover here may not be the Jesus you had hoped to meet-but he did exist, whether we like it or not.” The crucifixion is historical (archaeologist & biblical researcher Eric Meyers, professor Jewish studies at Duke U.) As far as we know, no ancient person ever seriously argued that Jesus did not exist. Theissen and Merz, Historical Jesus, p. 63.

[@bavideogaming1292]

If you deserve hell then you wishing people to go to hell is not very nice.

[@jake8882]

Who deserves hell? That's not us to decide.

[@pauljustensen2147]

Let me get this straight--you think the Church is responsible for getting you a counselor after your family abused you, but you are disappointed the church itself wasn't the counselor, but that it just paid for the counseling? Are you thinking that the bishop who probably is a banker or farmer should be the counselor? Also, you are mad when the professionals the church pays to do counseling are just bad at their jobs? So not only is the church responsible for your family member's actions, but it is also responsible for a professional counselor's actions if he or she is not very good at their jobs? If you were in charge at the church, what would you have it do?

[@GenerallyUnquotable]

If the church were interested in doing what Jesus would do, they would provide outstanding counseling, free of charge, for people who need it. They certainly have the resources to do that. I am upset because the church, which claims to have access to god and discernment, cannot weed out abusive people. If I were in charge of the church, I would stop claiming that god is in charge and admit that it is just humans being humans. That way, people would be more likely to have the information they need to protect themselves. When the church that claims to be speaking FOR GOD vets and then refers people to therapists who then abuse people, the church should take responsibility for their part.

[@pauljustensen2147]

@@GenerallyUnquotable I am sorry you were hurt, but I don't think the Church has ever claimed to believers or anyone else that God would vet anybody it lets serve in the church. From a believer's point of view, we know that the church can be hurt by those who claim to be part of it. The scriptures show that Jesus chose Judas Iscariot as an apostle. Joseph Smith chose many leaders who later hurt him and the church. In no way has the church or its history or its scriptures ever claimed or represented to you or anyone else that everybody in it is completely vetted, they will never do wrong and always do right. We can control what we can to prevent bad things from happening and then try to help when people choose badly.

[@jake8882]

​@pauljustensen2147 then don't claim to have discernment. That's bullshit.

[@jake8882]

​@@GenerallyUnquotableI meant this for you. The church can't claim such powers as discernment when it can't discern a good leader from a bad one. That's straight bullshit and a false teaching. The lds faith is a fake.

[@jake8882]

Lol I meant it for the person backing the church. Lol