Mormons Can Get Tattoos now??! | Utah’s Tiny Tattoo Craze

[@MyPumpkinSpicedChaos]

I met a Jewish woman who had a lot of tattoos, even though it was frowned upon by her religion. She asked her rabbi before her first tattoo and he told her to go for it "your body is a temple, that is true, so feel free to decorate your temple with art that is special to you. As man can hang art on the walls of our temples, so should you decorate your temple however your see fit." I loved that logic.

[@LynxieDove]

That is part of my personal beliefs...though I'm a Pagan;)

[@Fool_of_a_Toque]

wow, sounds like a really chill Rabbi - that's awesome! In the community I grew up around being buried next to your family in the Jewish cemetery is forbidden if you're tattooed. Good thing I'm more partial to cremation anyway :P

[@amysmiles9751]

I agree, times have changed just because you get a tattoo doesn't mean you hate yourself.

[@reinasherman8009]

That is beautiful logic and what my little atheist heart believes. But I love that the rabbi said it.

[@marissali61]

@@LynxieDoveokay?

[@ellenpoulter935]

POV Brooklyn and Bailey got tattoos and the church revised it so people would still look at them as “good Mormons”

[@wigglymoose]

literally my exact thought 😂

[@ddraper4819]

Glad i’m not the only one who noticed the coincidence of the time 😂

[@_Nat_A_]

Do you think they have that much pull? They didn’t get married in temples. Maybe that can change too.

[@SunnyFl15]

Cause they give good money 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@llovley]

​@@SunnyFl15this!! ↑↑↑↑ It's about about the church getting the tithe money!!

[@emilypeach7018]

As a permanent makeup artist, this shit is unhinged. I am not a tattoo artist. I’m an expert in creating brows, eyeliner, freckles, and lip tints in a way that fits the client’s face and personal style and will age well. These services are done with a different ink formula than tattoos and in a shallower layer of the skin. Am I doing line work and shading? Yes. Do I know how to prevent infection, transmission of blood borne pathogens, and scarring? Yes. Am I good at these services on faces? Yes. But am I an artist who knows how to create an image on skin? Absolutely not. Even the line work I do is different than the line work a tattoo artist does. I dont do sharp, clean, narrow lines because that would look absurd in my work. I have tattoos from first year apprentices that are far better than I could ever do after 4.5 years as a PMUA.

[@nicolledefoster1219]

🎉

[@JordanandMcKay]

It’s good to hear perspective from someone in the industry!

[@truecrimenwine489]

Loved McKay's pronunciation and for making such an effort to say indigenous words correctly! I am from new zealand, not Maori but still appreciate taking the time to pronounce things correctly!!! Better than half of our country lol!!

[@JordanandMcKay]

I follow a Māori guy on TikTok and I have learned so much from him. Such a culturally rich people.

[@sage-6]

I always have found the saying “my body is a temple” to be weird even as a TBM. Temples have paintings and stained glass windows in them. Tattoos are kind of like paintings just not the kind you put on the wall. It’s kind of hypocritical to have that rule if the temples have that stuff in them.

[@agirly1503]

Yes! Beautiful stained glass!

[@jadeharley7190]

I always thought that too! Plus, what if you wanted scripture that’s important to you, or like Jesus or a cross or something? That stuff you can find inside so many temples!

[@MissPipee]

Thank you for your inclusion of tattooing in the Pacifica culture. The Mormon reach is strong here and pulls people away from their culture.

[@nonrepublicrat]

And into a much better culture.

[@auntlynnie]

“Tattoos for medical purposes” almost certainly refers to guidance markers for radiation (cancer treatment). You get a tiny dot or cluster of dots to guide the medical staff so that the radiation is delivered consistently.

[@agirly1503]

Exactly

[@jadeharley7190]

This makes more sense than what I thought. I thought they meant a tiny freckle tattoo to tell twin babies apart

[@brookelackey6231]

Also, the Daith piercing has helped many with migraines.

[@auntlynnie]

@@brookelackey6231 It has absolutely helped me with mine, so I don’t even care if it’s a placebo effect.

[@sisuguillam5109]

Or tattoos after breast cancer surgery?

[@hannahhollamby1635]

Interesting that tattoos or tā moko (traditional tattoos) are not allowed by Mormonism but there is a healthy Māori Mormon population in New Zealand. There is a bit of a resurgence of tā moko in New Zealand as a process of decolonization and embracing your whakapapa (genealogy). One example is a lot more women getting moko kauae (female facial tattoos). I wonder if this announcement will mean we see more Māori Mormon with tattoos in NZ.

[@patrickcollier7090]

I knew quite a few Māori Mormon girls who attended BYU-H and none had the moko kauae. I never had conversations about it with them so I don't know if any of them ever considered it or how they felt about the tradition and how it related to their belief in the church. I suspect that if you had them and were attending church in New Zealand it probably wouldn't be a big deal. Outside of NZ I think it wouldn't go over well with non Māori Mormons. Just my hunch though.

[@michaelgrey7854]

Im from New Zealand and I know alot of maori that are Mormons (The hardcore ones) view the Maori culture as apostate, so Tatoo's are still very much discouraged. Tatoos are also associated with gang culture so no I dont see it changing.

[@Ceibhfhionn]

@@michaelgrey7854 Oh wow, even tā moko are associated with that?

[@OG-vj7kp]

As a former blood collector at the Red Cross, there is a questionare donors have to fill out to make sure their blood is fit for transfusion. There’s a question about tattoos and piercings, if someone says they’ve gotten one in the past (6 or 12 months I don’t remember) they’re a a follow up question we have to ask about what state they received their work in. If it’s Utah they have to wait a certain amount of time before being eligible because of Utahs lack of regulations on the industry here.

[@JordanandMcKay]

Yo what???? I haven’t done anything with blood since doing plasma before we got married so I didn’t ever pay attention to that question but that’s wild. Also the difference between “blood collector” and “blood collector at the Red Cross” is a very good reason to specify 😂

[@leslieblack8834]

i’m an apprentice here in SLC and i hate seeing these “artists” who have had basically no training. i’ve been working so hard in my apprenticeship and it was so hard to even get one in the first place. it’s like a slap in the face to see these people with only a few days of training doing these tattoos on people.

[@letitiamae]

It amazes me that people would trust someone without lots of experience (or at least overseen by someone with it) to permanently draw on their skin.

[@fayemids685]

It’s also wild being in the esthetics industry in SLC and seeing these cutesy all-pink studios offering the “tiny tattoos”. The first time I saw one I was baffled because my first thought was “these girls literally cannot be qualified to be doing this”. But apparently tattoos are TOTALLY fine and not (insert various stigmas rampant in utah around tattoos) when they’re being done by other blonde women in an pink studio with minimal training. Cut me a break, gals!!!

[@dabordietrying]

this makes me really sad. i live pretty close to SLC and had no idea that mormons could get tattoos now. of course they're going to go to people with no experience, theyve probably had no education on tattoos because of how taboo they used to be. its weird how quickly the church keeps changing lol. i wish this was inst x agram and i could see what shop you work at and recommend people to your shop or even get tattooed from you myself.

[@emilyboj]

I got quite a large piece as my first tattoo (roughly 5in by 8in) and got so lucky with my artist. He was done his apprenticeship but still fairly new, so roughly 2.5 hours and cost me 300 bucks. That was 8 years ago and the work has held up amazingly; overall very little fading, and the way it has faded is very even between the thick lines, fine lines, and shading. Was definitely worth going to a proper shop with good procedures.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Yeah, where you go is important if you're looking to get a tattoo. I suggest one go to a few places, talk to different artists, check the shop out to make sure it's clean, maybe watch a client getting worked on for a few minutes to see the process in action. It's hard to say, but you'll sort of "vibe" with the artist who you know will do the work the way you want.

[@kchortu]

I have some friends that have a salt lake tattoo shop called the Outter Darkness. They are great folks!

[@patrickcollier7090]

As far as the Maori face tattoos at the PCC goes. I lived in Hawaii for a while just after I graduated from BYU-I and knew several Maori girls who went to BYU-H and performed at the PCC. When they performed they would paint traditional Maori face markings on their face with stage makeup. I didn't meet any of the Maori performers who actually had the face tattoos. I spent a lot of time on the BYU-H campus and it would have stood out if anyone there had face tattoos.

[@lsun5322]

Wow that’s fascinating! Thanks for sharing!

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

I personally really like the Maori face tattoos. I think they're beautiful and the intricate line work is stunning in its artistry. If the kids want their faces tattooed I say go for it, even for nontraditional purposes. It's your body, you can do to it what you want.

[@ashb51]

Less than one week after conference, one of my tbm family members has an appointment to get a second ear piercing. 🤣🤣🤣 Just a couple years ago, her daughter was telling me heavenly father doesn't like my nose piercing.

[@CCaleighC]

Man this is nuts! Four days of classes!? I had to go through more training than that to pierce American Girl Doll Ears when I worked at a boutique. Like come on now 😭

[@JordanandMcKay]

Really?? Those dolls are no joke.

[@maliaprescott]

I have two family members who converted to Mormonism in their 50’s…they’re both tattoo artists and are covered head to toe in tattoos and piercings 🙈 I had no idea that the Church’s stance until now was so firmly against that. Thinking about it now, it totally fits that in recent years they haven’t talked about getting new tattoos…interesting that they were still fine with “desecrating” paying customer’s bodies 😬🤦🏻‍♀️

[@amysmiles9751]

good point what if some converts, they are suppose to accept you and your past right?

[@llovley]

​​@@amysmiles9751it seems like the church is all about the money. So with that understanding I'm sure they will accept you and your past, within reason, but only if you are faithful about paying your tithing without missing any payments because look at the size of their coffers. They didn't get coffers that large by turning people away.

[@Jimmiwashere]

And this is why I've been questioning why the same rules don't seem to apply to permanent makeup and microblading...

[@emmabrown5063]

As a no-mo New Zealander who lives and works next to TWO mormon churches. I have never seen moko (referring to any traditional maori tattooing and marking) on any maori person who is mormon. Moko has quite a spiritual aspect to it which is not very compatible with Mormonism.

[@patrickcollier7090]

I spent a lot of time when I lived in Hawaii (and was still a member of the church) at BYU-Hawaii and this was my experience as well. I met a lot of Māori Mormons. None had face tattoos.

[@Fool_of_a_Toque]

NOT a tattoo artist, just your run-of-the-mill mixed media artist here and BOY HOWDY it takes years of practice to ink fine, precise line-work. Mind you, that's on paper and not another person's flesh. My jaw dropped at the nightmare-fuel three day tiny tatt workshop, hoooooly shit D:

[@MonaLyssa33]

Ooof. This makes me super glad that the artist who did my tattoo was good, especially since part of my tattoo was of my late cat and it looks exactly like her.

[@sleepynarwhal2103]

It's the first time that I see people discussing the minimalist tattoo thing and I'm totally glad you do! I live in Europe and my first tattoo was a minimal bunny tattoo. Totally didn't have a clue how much tattoos should cost or anything... After the first bunny I got into traditional thick black tattoos and I'm ashamed to admit that my minimalist bunny (that is slowly disappearing, I think the ink was waaay diluted) costed me the same as my beautiful jet black tiger that dominates my rib cage 😓So I feel like my lack of experience was used to scam me. I really hope that people wanting to try tattos have more info about this stuff

[@scrumps101]

Jordan’s laugh at 5:07 is everything I needed all day! 😂 Theres nothing more contagious than hearing a genuine laugh and this one just had me.

[@Tu-mai]

The same shit is happening in the skincare/beauty community. I’m an esthetician and I cringe every time I see someone who only took a 2-5 day long seminar/course doing facial or body treatments they’re not knowledgeable enough or truly equipped to do. What angers me the most is that many treatments can be harmful if done incorrectly or if you don’t follow the necessary precautions. They’re gambling with other people’s health and that’s so fucking gross

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Indeed !! Because Utah Cosmetology tests are done in English our industry has gone to sheit as foreigners fake licenses. Estheticians, Nail Technicians, Barbers, Up-do salons, chemical alterations (colors,perm etc)

[@bmg9136]

Please use similar knowledge in regards to piercing/body jewelry, don't have it done with a piercer gun at the mall by a retail hourly worker. Not even ears. Go to a reputable shop, ask questions, look at the set ups for health/safety, use good quality jewelry. Check for certifications from the state or possibly registration with Association of Professional Piercers.

[@BuffySummersWannabe]

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[@beelzebabe5112]

Me, a grown up, inactive Mormon with bilateral nostril and septum piercings, with my best friend who is sitting for the Japanese style vase that fits her entire shin with flowers on her knee: 👀 👄

[@jkm4836]

Thanks!

[@rachelbossert1987]

For anyone looking to get a tattoo at a place with super tattooed and pierced employees, I promise they're not as scary as they seem. I went and got a simple lobe piercing at one and I was super nervous about how I would be perceived, but they were soooo nice and my artist even loved cats and had custom paintings of his on the walls.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Every person I've met who's covered in tattoos and piercings has been gentle, soft spoken, and kind. If you need an ice breaker, ask them to explain the meaning behind some of their tattoos. You'll be getting along great within minutes, I guarantee it.

[@starrynyte158]

I know this isn't the point of this, but fine line tattoos are so problematic. They will not stay so delicate and neat over the years. The ink spreads and it will just become a blob of faded black ink. To see people doing this without giving the proper warnings about long term issues, just upsets me. At least if someone got a small fine line tattoo from an experienced artist, you would learn about the pitfalls

[@kandybelle7333]

Exactly. Any artist worth their salt will design a tattoo that not only looks beautiful but will last the test of time. Those mini fine line tattoos ain’t it.

[@TheSmileycece]

This is so true. I'm currently working with a tattoo artist as an artist providing supplementary flash sheets. In the disigns I make I have consideration for how they would age especially when adding embellishments and considering the distance from mark to mark as well as line thickness.

[@thatgirljames6635]

From Weber Co also!! Miss it like crazy! Would give anything to move back there. Another great show you two!

[@junebugjo444]

Hey thanks so much for posting the resources for tattoos. I was getting scared hearing about all the bad stuff and my sister had asked if I knew any good places to get a tattoo in utah (we want to get matching ones) and I had no idea where to start.

[@amandarahfaldt8022]

🤣Poophole Loophole, I felt that laugh jordan

[@melissacoviello2886]

My oldest has a couple of tats and I can tell the difference from his first one to his other ones. It’s better that this info is out there.

[@appledpickle]

Whaaaaaat?! Four DAYS of training? Some shops require four years of apprenticeship

[@Heather.R.]

I cannot tell you the number of chicks who have lost their mind on me because I had the nerve to point out that their micro bladed eyebrows are face tattoos.

[@emaliciously]

Just backing up your note about not wearing gloves. I've worked as a surgical nurse, and having no gloves...hell, leaning over someone too far without a HAIR net will put bacteria in the wound that pops up a gnarly infection in a few days. There is no substitute for proper technique when dealing with broken skin.

[@shelbyrichards9224]

Hey! My fav For sure ❤😊 beanie that shit up. I wore one yesterday for the first time, im just outside Denver ❤

[@TarotwithRuby]

My mother isn't mormon but protestant christian and she also called me wanting to get a tattoo 'disfiguration of my body'. Needless to say, I didn't tell her when I did get a tattoo until I already had it and she didn't speak to me for 3 weeks (mind you, i was living at home at the time). She almost separated from my dad because I did tell him and he told me to not tell my mother lol. Since I left my parents house, I have gotten a half-sleeve + another tattoo and I'm getting my 4th in a few weeks. Went no-contact with her and my parents did end up divorcing. For the longest time I thought me getting a tattoo led to the end of the relationship with my mother and the divorce of my parents, when in reality, it was the reaction of my mother on me getting a tattoo that led to those (among other things of course). Thank you so much for talking about this. I hate the idea that it's harder to get a job with tattoos, when I am a 4th grade teacher with visible large tattoos and our vice-principle is fully tattooed as well. Generally, people don't care anymore and churches like Mormons and that of my mother should get with the times.

[@omgkthxbi]

My 18 year old tattoo is NOT good lmao. I was a walk in, the only person available was not a regular tattoo artist (she didn't have any tattoos so that should've been my first clue). I think most of our first tattoos are bad in some way, its a rite of passage.

[@Mandy_White82]

It feels like a new way to guilt mothers…. For shame, your child chooses to get a tattoo, you must not be guiding your child correctly… As one of the few Tattooed people in the ward I was in, I was looked down on regularly, including not being given a calling because of my tattoos… One lady said to me, “We are all sinners, some are just more open about theirs, and choose to wear them on their skin.” It’s crazy…

[@caprijohnson8197]

Omg I can’t believe they said that to you. Wtf 😮 I bet your tattoos are awesome

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Gaslighting is their specialty

[@moirahurley2862]

This is just another way for the LDS church to retain their members. Im so glad I left this false church!!

[@Fernanda-zk1fl]

My biggest tattoo took 3 hours and it's got 8 different colors on it lol... Got my first tattoos 14 years ago and they're still going strong with no touch ups. You're right, those lines look awful and will not last, they'll blur and fade so fast.

[@mekahlazoe9811]

Damn. These old men telling me not to get tattoos makes me want to get tattoos even harder.

[@dollsNcats]

Do it do it do it 🤣

[@mommyofkittens4809]

I decided that I want a tattoo for Christmas. F*ck those controlling cult leaders

[@jcwittig]

A pro tattoo artist would be more than happy to educate you and no questions too stupid. It's better ask for you get your dad too then a couple months after you get your tattoo.

[@corbinthomas1502]

There are tattoo artists that will even let you interview them and they will draw something first and ask if it is ok

[@amelierose3088]

I’m not Māori but as someone from newzealand thank you for bringing up tā moko

[@JordanandMcKay]

The Māori people have such a beautifully rich culture, I love learning about it.

[@ellenhood1356]

Hey guys I just love you guys💕 McKay and Jordan you both have beautiful hair. Hope the baby is doing better.

[@sisuguillam5109]

"I was born in 95." Me: Baby! Sorry... being reminded that I am old enough to be your mum is 😆.

[@JordanandMcKay]

I feel very old but I recognize that I lack a lot of experience haha

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@JordanandMcKay you have more experience than most. More than a lot of people will have who are twice your age! Hope your kiddo in feeling okay and you all got to get some sleep! Schönes Wochenende!

[@mandboone1571]

Al Caraway is super kind. She is a very light hearted person, she was in my stake and I have spent a lot of time with her and can confirm she is very sweet. I dont know why she does what she does but she feels in some way that she has been uplifted by the church.

[@Teajay21]

I'm getting my first tattoo soon and I've been thinking about it for a long time, following artists and people with tattoos, looked up my artist and their work on Instagram and the shop. I did look for a woman or nonbinary artist and that made me feel more comfortable approaching them. But also you want someone who does the style you want so I suggest checking out their art online, they won't judge you for your simple or feminine tattoo if that's a style that they do! I wouldn't go to someone who does primarily American traditional tattoos because that's not the art style that I want.

[@scrumps101]

You guys are cute as hell in your beanies ❤️❤️

[@melisnl]

Can y’all review the tv show “ under the banner of heaven “?

[@randoman33]

I have a new drinking game. Every time McKay or Jordan say "things of that nature", take a shot of your favorite whiskey. Lol

[@JordanandMcKay]

Take a shot whenever we say “so” if you want to die.

[@maplemel3072]

Today was picture day at work. And I completely forgot 🤣 Needless to say, I too wore a beanie today! Not my greatest picture 😅 thank God for retake day!

[@LynxieDove]

Damn, I knew I forgot to mention something...another great reason to look up a shop online...you'll be able to see for yourself what they look like...though the guys who look rough are also some of the best and coolest artists in the area...so don't be so quick to rule them out.

[@theexmocandleco.6528]

Yeah, I don't see this as changing the rule at all. I see it as making the route to figuring out the rule more circuitous, thus making it harder for outsiders to understand. (And giving progmos something to hang their hat on.) And making it easier to make it look like apostates are mischaracterizing. This pamphlet does NOT rescind anything, nor have they removed or put disclaimers on past talks from prophets on the website. This just muddies the waters. It's an extremely easy thing to rescind something (and they've done this with earthly polygamy and the 1978 "revelation")...if that's what they wanted to do, they know how to do it.

[@theexmocandleco.6528]

Love this video, BTW!!!

[@JordanandMcKay]

It’s just so disheartening to think that even if this did come from a place of advancement, the damage has already been done for basically the entire living generation.

[@averyelliott5645]

As someone who went to cosmetology school and keeps considering going for a tattoo apprenticeship at some point so I have studied all of the stuff for the bloodborne pathogen stuff and have I think 16 currently myself... I need y'all to understand I gasped so hard I started choking on my saliva when you said Barbicide. I have certifications in properly mixing and using that shit because cos school duh lmfaoooo and nope. Nope nope nope nope.

[@62beachbum]

Your videos are awesome. I am not a Mormon, but I have family members who are members of the LDS church. I love them very much, but feel bad that they are in so deep with the Mormon church. It especially bothers me that they have to tithe a certain amount of their income when they don't have much money to begin with. Keep up the good work.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

The Feels! Two of my kids are gay, 3 of my grandkids are LD$- Sweet as they are, Im so afraid for my grand kids.

[@yooperskeptic]

I have a very old burn scar, on my right shoulder and under the shoulder, in the armpit, and I'd love to get it tattooed. I don't know where to start looking into it, though...I imagine that tattooing burn scars is a specialty, if it can even be done.

[@dollsNcats]

It totally can ! :D go ask around and see who’s work you love

[@yooperskeptic]

@@dollsNcats I will, thanks!

[@kollettebowman5247]

I know this isn't about the show today but I just watched a channel called Hello Saints. And that guy needs serious help you should watch it !!!!!

[@JordanandMcKay]

I’ve seen it. It feels like a Mormon psy-op

[@kollettebowman5247]

@@JordanandMcKay I grew up and live in Blackfoot Idaho and even though it was hard not to be Mormon I was taught to run the other way and not drink the Kool aid lol

[@letitiamae]

Have you ever done or considered doing a video or series of videos about the different Mormon branches? How they came to be? How do they differ from each other in doctrine and typical experience? How did LDS become known as the mainstream branch? I thought there was just LDS, FLDS and Church of Christ but Google says there's 70 branches.

[@JordanandMcKay]

I don’t think we have ever really considered it, but that would be interesting!

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

There are many! I was involved way to long. And now I predict yet more branches as mormons become LD$ and I see many changes in the, interpretations, buildings, terminology, rules, allowances, practices are evolving with the times. They need to stay in the popularity $$$ sectors !

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

@@JordanandMcKay A prediction would be fun to see

[@rachelk4805]

Omg, 70? That's crazy. I really love content about cults, fundamentalism, scientology, etc... McKay and Jordan are my introduction to the Mormon side of things (aside of documentaries like Keep Sweet and Pray or news), so some of the stuff that sounds the wildest to me is something I only heard mentioned in passing. This would be interesting.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

In an area where there aren't enough people to call it a "ward" -(group of members) then it is called a branch. Like in the outskirts of pretty isolate states in USA

[@carolynharmon7074]

Sooooo, since they change their rules as they feel, then that means they were wrong, right? Sooooo, what else are they currently wrong about right now that they will change their rules for in the future. Beside's EVERYTHING!

[@f-sharp-a-sharp]

These shops are popping up in Boise too

[@openshot]

Im learning mormon atm and i get weird looks because of my tattoos but still get a happy greeting from everybody

[@JordanandMcKay]

Just be sure you get the full story because the missionaries aren’t giving it to you.

[@denisekeeran9883]

This was really informative 🙂

[@lilyelverum3141]

Jordan and McKay!!!!! If you are fans of inkmaster, you guys can book with Sausage (Walter Frank) from the show in Salt Lake City! Wanted to make the trip down there myself to book an appointment with him, but I have no personal connection to Mormonism and I'm not sure if much else is going on in Salt Lake

[@danysanerd2383]

27:50 the certification type you're thinking is about blood borne pathogens.

[@LeedleleedleDae]

Some of these cosmetologists with tattoo guns have less skills than Billy’s cousin in the trailer park at the edge of town.

[@ellekim2617]

Amen!!

[@ashleyburbank3129]

Actually the same way they have health jewelry that alerts people of health conditions they also do it in tattooing I'm pretty sure that's what they were referring too. It's actually pretty smart you can't forget to put on a tattoo

[@timnewman1172]

Tattooists are like any other tradesperson/artist... go do your research and quality work is worth paying for!

[@dollsNcats]

100 % agree . I looked SO much for my artist My last tattoo I paid 900 🥴🤣

[@therosebites]

Smell recommendation for ex-mo candle co... Tarred and feathered

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

LOL - lOVE IT

[@tomereader9935]

Barbicide dissolves hair, removing it from combs and brushes.

[@surestar74]

Barbicide is a disinfectant solution, it doesn't dissolve the hair.

[@rachelk4805]

Weird, why did my boss make me clean the brushes thoroughly and remove all the hair before soaking (get your minds out of the gutter 😜) them in barbicide?

[@natalierose13]

WTF. That really scares me that there’s a 4 day training for tattooing.

[@JordanandMcKay]

That’s probably how long it takes to get trained at McDonald’s and if I bought an equivalent amount of burgers, I don’t think it would have as much a permanent effect on my body as a tattoo would.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

In Utah the mormons/LD$ are "do it yourselfers" remember they pay gov. taxes then 10% of all income to LD$ for salvation (to get to heaven) so they cut corners wherever they can.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

In Utah the mormons/LD$ are "do it yourselfers" remember they pay gov. taxes then 10% of all income to LD$ for salvation (to get to heaven) so they cut corners wherever they can.

[@lucianiklison7290]

Guys please include a comment about Porgan's homebirth in the next offtopic, I'd die for it

[@jordanalexander8099]

Mormons need to get their old mens approval before they want to make any decisions 🤣

[@agirly1503]

Sorry guys I'm still confused what exactly is a tiny tattoo versus a regular tattoo anyone know? 🤔

[@nixiedoe]

A tiny tattoo is just any tatto that is very small and/or has especially thin lines :)

[@shanibob5466]

is the stereotype of tattoo artists because it is taboo in utah? i did so much research and spoke to multiple artists before going to get mine which is a fine line flower tattoo. and the taboo in the general population is pretty much gone and there are tons of diverse people who tattoo

[@JordanandMcKay]

Absolutely. It’s the association with other actual sinful things like smoking and drinking and general promiscuity. Really odd but people are weird.

[@tenny810]

Wish me luck I’m gonna try to get a tattoo tomorrow.😊

[@sisuguillam5109]

Good luck! Hope it turns out nice and doesn't hurt too bad!

[@JordanandMcKay]

How did it go?

[@sandyh5653]

I think it depends on where you are. Here in West Virginia, there have been members with tattoos and nobody blinks. We each answer to the Lord. Why would we criticize each other as we all go thru life happenings and changes. I take it that living in Utah must be so difficult being a Mormon. The best congregation I have been in has been Cumberland, MD. Such a supportive and loving group. Not all groups or people are the same.

[@JordanandMcKay]

We didn't grow up in Utah.

[@lanagomisc.6005]

I think the disdain towards tattoos is a general boomer thing. My whole family dislikes them, but my 64 year old mom has outright said that women with tattoo sleeves are ugly. She doesn't even want me to get more ear piercings, let alone a tattoo. So...yeah...fuck them.

[@floralbouquets]

really...if you're not gonna allow piercings why allow one on the ear? kinda dumb.

[@gpiegirl]

The temple in liberty is under construction. Looks like prep for an expansion.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

From UT here & lots of conversations on counting temples! LOL

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Catholic Community Services feeds the homeless daily in SLC UT. (i dont do religions) just saying Good on them for big glorious temples where they handshake their way to heaven

[@MsLizzieGurl]

I live in the south and while looking for someone in my area that specializes in tiny tattoos/fine line tattoos, a lot of the ppl that show up are permanent makeup artists. I like the stuff they do but at the same time I do wonder how well trained they are and any possible side effects from getting a tattoo done with them.

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Ive heard of that. Do they ever really disappear?

[@ursa1361]

i grew up as a non mormon in idaho & as an alternative person, the way people treat you is insane. i'm extremely in favor of education & harm reduction in body mod practices, but i have to admit that people who rejected alternative subculture now trying to engage with it in such a roundabout backdoor way feels very.... disappointing but not surprising?

[@amandarahfaldt8022]

This has nothing to do with this videos content, but Im watching this at 7,777 views with 77 comments (this being number 78) Good vibes to you guys

[@michaelgrey7854]

I'm from New Zealand. Tatoos are very much discouraged here. In fact the hardcore Maori Mormons view their culture as Apostate so discourage it even more, apart from the fact that it is associated with gang culture here.

[@JordanandMcKay]

That’s so sad 😞

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

It depends on who pays the "faithful 10% " heaven tax. Then they bend rules LD$ $$

[@OnsenDreamscapes]

my dad was a christian scientist (hence the 'was') and he was sooo against tattoos and piercings as 'paganism'

[@yooperskeptic]

Do you mean "was" because he didn't get medical treatment and died?

[@OnsenDreamscapes]

@@yooperskeptic yep :(

[@jcwittig]

So you're telling me that if they want to get a tattoo but they don't want to go because they think they're tattoo artist would not approve the tattoo that you're getting put on your skin? Wow

[@BioRose25]

In my area, we watched where the nurses went--you could count on sterility there.

[@jcwittig]

Good tattoo artists and good tattoo shops have a waiting period sometimes up to 3 years. Those are the tattoo artists and shops you want to go to. don't go to one that said oh I just had a cancellation 20 minutes ago want to come in now? Don't do it.

[@rylanerickson]

Three cheers for the tattoo flu, I hope to get it again someday.

[@calebspears8694]

Sorry tattoos- my body’s a temple and you don’t have a recommend! 😆😆

[@MountainPearls]

I was a “good girl” in the 1990s (not Mormon though) and got at tattoo in 1998. It wasn’t a huge deal then. This was just a Mormon thing even in the 1990s.

[@HeiwaTori]

Ok so another revision of law in Utah to add to the list... I find tattoos beautiful, dont want one myself (money, pain & I change my mind on what I'd want) my friend has a back tattoo with a staircase as her spine & its so beautiful, she has watercolour ones which I really love

[@MelindaSue1985]

I feel like I know that Artist you are referring to, if it is who I think is I have one from her…but I have one other tiny tattoo (not from her) but it’s HORRIBLE and need to figure out what I want to do to cover it 😅

[@danysanerd2383]

45:27 You're 💯 right about that 🤪

[@LittleMissLounge]

Ohhhhh, so that's why my Mormon de facto boss was talking about getting a tattoo with one of her daughters recently. I was so fucking taken aback, LMAO. No double piercings, but you can have tramp stamps now! I guess the Mormon version of that would be your nape instead of your sacrum.

[@anjelikag]

“Don’t touch yourself or else you’ll wreck yourself” 🎶🎤

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Unless you meet the 10% heaven tax. Then we can bend the rules -LOL ol

[@anjelikag]

@@Mrs.Robinsons or get the second anointing lmao

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

@@anjelikag lmfao !

[@grimjaur86]

So some kind of an mlm-guru-lesson kind of thing with tattooing? sounds about right

[@tenny810]

It sounds like they’re letting the parents decide so if you have a strict parent you’re not gonna get tattoos and extra piercings.

[@JordanandMcKay]

I would imagine that every living active member wont let their kids do that.

[@Hyperh11]

The speech from Gordy really triggered me 😡