Mormons HATE ex Mormons

[@colleenbriand9964]

Thanks! My heart goes out to you. Escaping a cult is so traumatic. But your Mom's words to you were extremely harsh. Stay strong 🩷

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@@colleenbriand9964 thank you for the super chat. My mom was brainwashed by the cult too. It’s so sad.

[@randoms7113]

"What the herd hates most is the one who thinks differently; it is not so much the opinion itself, but the audacity of wanting to think for themselves, something that they do not know how to do." -Arthur Schopenhauer

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@@randoms7113 oh wow I’ve never heard this quote. So painfully accurate.

[@yeshalloween]

My mom has disowned me and my 5 kids since leaving. Hasn’t met my 3 month old baby. My 2 siblings and their families followed grandma. I’m in so much pain right now I don’t even know if I can make it. I feel beyond worthless and unlovable.

[@aviendha1154]

You’re not worthless! I promise you will find community outside of the temple. I’m an internet stranger obviously but it hurts to read you feel that way. Wishing you the best. Your protecting yourself and your kids by leaving, they’ll never have to feel this pain, small comfort to you I know, but it’s such an amazing thing to do for them.

[@bewitched3912]

@yeshalloween you are loveable and deserving. There are good, welcoming people who will never judge you for your lack of church attendance. I found a few groups and they give me so much joy!! Never give up, it will get better! Hugs!!

[@hanraddas9308]

Very sad.

[@mitchotto336]

When you no longer vibe with your old tribe, the universe will provide a new one. Authenticity is a threat to a religious identity. Your Authenticity is a gift, surround yourself with folks who appreciate it.

[@_Truth-Seeker_]

You're not unlovable. The Church trains people to have conditional love and that God's love is conditional. (Prophet Russell Nelson teaches this). Thus, if you don't meet their conditions (being a believing a member of thr Church), they cannot access unconditional love for you. It's their problem, not yours.

[@jeffparnell5805]

I walked away from Jehovah's Witnesses in my 40s. I can relate to and understand a lot of what was presented here.

[@randallsmith7885]

@@jeffparnell5805 the Witnesses have raised shunning to a high art.

[@craiglaw7578]

Thank you for putting yourself out there; the church that claims love and devotion does the precious opposite!

[@hanatemonstas4485]

Its how cults keep their followers: ostracize the dissenters

[@mattcooper1159]

That needs to be on a billboard at the largest intersection of every city. Hate is strong.

[@mikeopmorgan3332]

What kind of morals does this family have that would turn their back on this sweet daughter? When my daughters left the church I followed suite, thank god. My kids are more important to me than all the gods in the universe.

[@TheOGProtestantMormon]

Exactly!!

[@freeforever392]

I resigned without telling my family and planned to tell them in my own time when I was ready. But instead the church sent members from my parents' ward to knock on their door and inform my parents so I wasn't able to do it in my own time. I was not disowned as I feared I would be, in that respect I am fortunate. I'm the same age you are. Even though my mom is still very much a member, she thought it was really messed up that the church overstepped their boundaries in that way, but that's a cult for ya.

[@fairywingsonroses]

Personally, I think it should be illegal for the church to tell family members about your private membership status. I was lucky that my entire family left the church around the same time that I did, but if that had happened to me, I probably would have filed a lawsuit. I'm so sorry that it happened to you.

[@loretta_3843]

That's next level KGB kind of stuff. Wow...

[@StrongopinionsRus]

Honestly, Jennie, the most tragic aspect of your story to me is not that you were married to a sociopath or that you grew up in a culty religion, it’s that you have been so failed and forsaken by your family-specifically your mother. A lot of people grow up in cults (sadly) or have awful marriages (sadly), but yo be forsaken by your mother…. As you say, I cannot imagine cutting off one of my children. It’s unfathomable to me. I cannot imagine rejoicing that my daughter was engaged to a guy she had only known for five minutes. I can’t imagine “returned missionary” would be the really only criterion I would have for my future son-in-law. Your family failed you. Your faith failed you, and it’s so wrong.

[@kaciestansfield6251]

I’m so so sad that this your experience. I was terrified to tell my mom that I was leaving the church. It’s a hard hard road for some. Luckily for me my family has been ok. I hope you keep your head up and keep exposing the harm that the church does.

[@smarie3874]

Good grief. I can’t believe the focus was on whether you were going to church and not on providing safety and security for you and their grandchildren.

[@sarahpinho1114]

My visiting teacher basically told me I'd be kept out of heaven

[@Letstalkaboutit07]

it amazes me how church goer that are supposedly to love the unbeliever are the same people condemning the unbeliever. Just imagine, if unbeliever sees this, do you think they will believe in God? These people are acting like Pharisees. Their behaviours is not like that of Jesus Christ.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@@Letstalkaboutit07 I agree. I was actually shocked by their vudie.

[@lovisatarnholm]

Right? Even if I had been interested in joining, that type of bullshit would scare me away so fast!

[@mommalion7028]

it’s because they worship joseph smith and brigham young, jesus christ is of secondary concern for mormonism. source: research and the lds did the exact same thing to my grandma that they did to this poor woman, except my grandma was raped repeatedly instead of abandoned by a cheating spouse. mormons can be nice but mormonism is a mind virus.

[@brandy4530]

It’s not about gaining new converts. Most large religions do not grow by gaining new converts. They grow through breeding new converts, and forcing people to stay by doing stuff like this.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@ yes agreed membership expansion is everything

[@jaysonpowell8708]

I left the church 3 years ago and feel it was the best decision. Ward Radio is so hard to watch.

[@bewitched3912]

@@jaysonpowell8708 Ward Radio popped up in my feed and found it a cringe-fest. Very disingenuous. Snake oil salesmanship.

[@nancyevans3590]

As a former Mormon myself I get you. I’m sorry you are going through this,

[@dianagiles9467]

I’ve heard this Jenni..hold you head held high..it’s pathetic..I used to attend a church I was a member of that church I was bought up as Church of England..mum was catholic..yes those days it was forbidden to marry outside their religion..yet this church I attended was neither..I went by my mums code..no matter what our faith, we will stand under one banner when we meet the lord..no matter what religion we are..sadly I lost my mum 8 years ago..she passed away aged 93 ..

[@jesstheninth]

It's so hard to maintain relationships with active Mormons, because it's almost that they can't relate to anyone who is not also active. My parents are active, but I have left and am out as a gay woman, and I remember having conversations with my parents not related to religion, and somehow it always came back to me not praying or being faithful enough. My wife's family is currently active as well so that's been fun to navigate 🤣

[@orisabwater]

Did you "lose your faith" or come to your senses?!?! I was super Christian before and it's so much to recover from. There's so much to relearn, especially to free myself of the misogyny and trust my own mind, value, and worth.

[@lisaaamoun3520]

I think it’s funny that we are all born into the perfect religion. There are a lot of ppl who do horrible things in The name of Jesus. That is the greatest sin in my opinion. Life is hard enough but I think alone is better than being with these ppl.

[@Fuchiboca]

Take the separation as time to get to know yourself. Meditation is a powerful tool. My brother works FOR the "church" in the COB. My parents served their mission in the SLC temple. My own father, mother and brother tried to sew seeds of contention with MY 3 sons and grandchildren about me, but luckily my children know their father. I have never been better!

[@AnnieWinter148]

I left the church and my family never pulled this crap on me.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

How old are you? I hear from a lot of older exmos that their families cut them off. Younger people tend to have more acceptance, tho not always.

[@alkunz1110]

@@lifetaketwo7662 I'm old (mid-60s) and been out since I was 18. My family has not been an issue. (o be fair, at this point, only one of my siblings are still in, but parents and active siblings were never an issue. I do suspect that I've been lucky in this regard though.

[@bewitched3912]

Lucky. My 300+ five generation long Mormon relatives cut me off.

[@Tlydia]

You are so effing brilliant. Glad you get to share your talents with the world.

[@Navigatingthroughlife33]

Sending you love and light! Whatever insults or hateful comments being thrown at you, know that you are worthy and loved by your TikTok and KZbin family. Wishing you the best! ❤

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Thank you so much!❤

[@rockstar1011]

I went through this. My mom just prayed about me but everyone from church who were friends for a long number of years flat out snubbed me. If I tried to chat with them on line or in person they acted like they didn't know me. Which pissed me off pretty good. This is a real thing at church. They want as many to come and to convert but they sure are quick to disown and mock you if you do your own thing. The anger they presented was so surprising at first I didn't even understand what was going on. I was born into it and I went on a mission and when I came home I was very alone. I decided to hang out with friends and do things with them rather then spend one of my two days off going to church. I then found trying to go back was hard because I did not know the times of the meetings and I didn't know as many people because I moved several times. When I went back and decided I was Mormon and made a commitment to myself to regain standing some of the friends I had, mocked me and doubted. I wrote them all off. I deleted them from any social media and I do not consider them worth my time. My mom never did this stuff and my father had passed back when I was 7 so that wasn't a issue. I wanted to slap them all in the face for how they made me feel. They do not understand they were shunning me, in the light of how unmormon like this was. Eh two tears in a bucket........... I do not live my life for them, I live it for me. It dose hurt but in that I drew strength in myself. Depth of character and understanding they will never have.

[@bewitched3912]

And exmormons love one another, just like Jesus wanted ❤

[@estebanvasquezr1]

They love the people they want to love just like normal people.

[@kellybrandon1179]

Jesus said love everyone

[@bewitched3912]

@kellybrandon1179 I always enjoy your comments, Kelly! Gtsy!!

[@loretta_3843]

I'm so, so sorry you went through all that. My parents come from a very traditional Italian Catholic upbringing (back when mass was still in Latin, etc). One thing I am grateful to the church for (no, I certainly don't consider myself Catholic) is that when I was going through a "difficult" time, wasn't the easiest person - my parents went to talk to their priest for advice. Apparently, he told them to always keep the door open to me (in a nutshell). So much harm can come from simply "dropping" someone who's going through something. Also, no one has dozens of real "friends." You should thank them for getting out of your life because friends don't cast you away like that.

[@californiajones6227]

I can only imagine what they say about black ex Mormons like me😂

[@charleygappmayer8496]

I’m approaching a year since I resigned my membership after 55 +years in the church in the same stake and ward. My spouse no longer attends and does not believe any of the church doctrines. It is interesting who you discover are friends in the church once you leave. Members avoid any type of conversation except for the Bishop and one other couple. I was fortunate to have an amazing Bishop who was supportive of my decision. My empathy has expanded 100 fold and have a peace of mind while the members have withdrawn any form of friendship. It is unfortunate that a church that proclaims love for all, makes it entirely conditional.

[@startswithx]

Life long athiest here, good to know there are those who've fallen further into the bowels of depravity than me! More seriously, I'm so sorry for what you went through. There's no excuse.

[@nbailey9391]

I left 24 years ago after my mission. I went through many of the same things you did, it got better over the years. We do not talk about it anymore. It also helps I live halfway around the world from Utah. Good luck in the future, I hope it gets better for you like it did for me. I am now Atheist since leaving and we just do not talk about church anymore.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@@nbailey9391 I haven’t even had the chance to talk to my family. My mom cut me off from everyone.

[@jesseferdinandpasco1661]

Forsake the world for HIM. Congratulations on your freedom from bondage.

[@minka1781]

I'm so sorry this happened to You, wish You all the best and a pea eful holliday season. Question: saw this weird radio guy and started to wonder how is his opinion on people like Ruby Franke or all those convicted murderers that were mormons. How is it even possible they exist? I' m former catholic and catholic church solved it with the God given free will, but how did LDS deal with it while they claim, they are superior?

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Good question. I’m sure he feels the church has nothing to do with their crimes.

[@MMPutnam77]

Are Mormon apostates considered worse than people who were never Mormon?

[@Rosaedora]

Yes, because they are considered to have heard the truth and turn away from it, so that is denying the holy spirit which can be seen as worse than murder.

[@bewitched3912]

Yep, we're "outer-darkness" material

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Yes because we had the gospel and then apostatised.

[@MMPutnam77]

@@lifetaketwo7662 I'm an apostate from another religion. I was a kid so I didn't deal with much of the backlash.

[@robertlaw8510]

No. I doubt that any of them could deny the Holy Ghost.

[@zuzumontague]

I told both my mom, and my sister why I left the church. My mom was more accepting and respected my decision. My sister began to argue with me and made it very clear I was not to bring this subject up again. It was almost the equivalent of coming out as gay. The moment you do, everyone you know shows who they really are and severs ties with you. And the moment you speak out about this experience, members of the faith engage in Scientology’s “Fair Game” policy by launching verbal attacks against you, specifically attacking your character. Ward Radio is the equivalent of Scientology’s “Office of Special Affairs,” specifically targeting people who go on Mormon Stories revealing their experience. I pointed it out on their channel and I kid you not, it was like WWIII broke out. The TBM’s were savage in their criticism. And when I called them out, they took no responsibility but further dug in their heels. Yeah, I don’t even hang out with Mormons, let alone walk into a Mormon church.

[@CriticalThinker178]

So sorry to hear how your family have treated you. It’s really difficult to believe that love from family could be conditional upon your loyalty to the church. My heart breaks for you 😢

[@kandelyn8347]

I am so sorry for your experience. I have been captivated by your story and strength. My mother-in-law actually has a very similar story to yours. I may have to show her your videos. I am an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I agree that it is horrible how you were treated by your family. I have family members that left, my husband's family is a mix of members that left, never members, and inactive. We all get together and like with each other despite differences. I think with every religion and family people go rouge and misinterpret things and what your family did to you is not doctrine. It is actually the opposite of what they teach. They should have loved you unconditionally and never treated you less than. I am so sorry for your experience and wish you never had to endure that. It is not what the doctrine teaches though.

[@sarahpinho1114]

Unfortunately the doctrine and leaders promote this kind of thing to happen to many many people

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Thanks for commenting. It’s actually note the opposite of church doctrine. I was a member for 45 years, worked in the temple, was in multiple RS presidencies, YW pres, Primary Pres. The church doctrine from the very beginning is to shun apostates. The doctrine is that apostates will be in outer darkness. Black sheep, korihors, etc. I hear the stories of thousands of other ex Mormons who have been excommunicated, shunned, disowned, and harassed by their believing fiends and family.

[@kandelyn8347]

@lifetaketwo7662 that's horrible and I'm sorry. I was not raised in Utah and am much younger than you so we have very different experiences. I was taught something completely different and from the teaching I have read and heard I have never heard that you should shun people. That seems like people using religion and twisting doctrine into something evil.

[@DaveJohnsonSCG]

​​@@kandelyn8347 Have you watched Russell M. Nelson general conference talk from a few years ago where he literally said "don't take council from those who don't believe"? Basically saying we're right, non believers are wrong. Don't listen to their ""lies"". Even though the "lies" are just factual true history. This is still very much a part of the current church rhetoric in 2024. It is just one example that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the many many issues. Personally I don't think it's very Christ-like to horde 200 billion dollars and build 40 million dollar temples when we have homeless dieing on the streets a block away from the salt lake City Temple every winter. WWJD? Why did a church need to build a billion dollar shopping mall or own fancy hotels? My LDS father is still pissed about the City Creek mall. Not enough to leave or research the truth claims though. Sincerely, a descendant of the original Utah pioneers who is now an ex-mormon going on 20 years.

[@ieatoutoften872]

Decoding Korihor is a man's name in the Book of Mormon sometime between 700 B.C. and 400 A.D. As written in the Book of Mormon, Korihor preached against the church, and was cursed to be speechless soon afterward.

[@c.k.mcknight8921]

I'm so sorry. I've not been able to tell my family yet -- aside from my sister, who no longer considers herself Mormon either, though I took the step of formally resigning -- and I've been out for just over two years. I have friends (or rather, former friends, and that's by their own choice) who have cut me loose. Apparently, I never really had a testimony. As for being a lazy learner, that's pure and utter dreck. I studied harder than I ever had when I really started having questions, even harder than I had as a missionary.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

A definition for cults that I really like is "any group that you can't leave with your dignity intact".

[@craiglaw7578]

Thanks!

[@JuliaHuber-xu3fd]

I am active LDS and I watch all your videos because the help me to see where I have blindspots as a human being. You remind me my sister and you help me to be a better person. Also I was born in Russia and church there is very different than in UTAH and I am glad I was born there. I just love you and your honesty. You spank me to follow my dreams and not to fall asleep as a young mom of my first baby. Your spanks are very good for lds, non lds, any young woman. If you will do a tour one day I am coming.

[@bobicusrex]

Thanks for being awesome Julia.

[@treeroot7636]

As far as taking counsel from those that dont believe Jesus even said the children of this world are WISER than the children of light. He also said to make friends with mammon (well to do unbelievers) so when you fall on hard times they will receive you into their houses....Hmm why didnt He say get close to the religious people theyll help you when you lose everything...Things to think about.

[@maxjenkins7139]

I am so proud of you.

[@BenjaminRushton-hp5jl]

Ex Mormon here too! My faith is in Christ

[@Shirley-r4h9p]

WOW !!! Sooo sorry that you are going through this hell !! 💜

[@ausgetrixt]

It is a cult!

[@harlanurwiler7146]

What you are describing with the Mormon reaction to your decision to leave the LDS Church is NOT Christianity. I sympathize with your sad turn of events. Continue to pray for strength to stand strong! 😊😊😊 Losing your Mormon faith is the first step in gaining an "authentic" Christian faith. The Catholic Church, the Orthodox churches, and most of historic Protestantism rejects the claims of Joseph Smith and the Latter Day Saints. You are in good company! 😀😀😀

[@cosmictruthseeker3796]

Well Jennie, you paid a steep price, but I am grateful for the revelations you have given to the public. It is priceless to hear about your parents' temple wedding initiations, which sounded like Freemasonic initiations. The fact that your mother had to make a vow with her life to the church or face being disemboweled (did I hear that or remember that right?!) and other such bodily harm has to be considered in the way she has dealt with you leaving her church. It's almost like if she supported you leaving her church, it would be akin to killing herself. That is some diabolical brainwashing. p.s. your thumbnail picture with Kevin giving you a hug is so sweet. :)

[@lifetaketwo7662]

I love that photo and felt it embodied the way he tries to protect me from harm. I didn’t know I’d pay such a steep price, it’s all be so very surprising.

[@baldeagle-cq2jl]

There is a liberating feeling when you break those shackles from control. I must admit,the LDS church is very demanding of it's followers and thus it takes a long time to feel free. Today, I live a life of peace and experiences, always in awe of the universe and our existence. Learn for yourself and don't let anyone tell you how to live. That is why the leaders of the church always emphasise,don't read anything outside of church. That is the indoctrination/control they want.

[@Fuchiboca]

I will report back from outer darkness. I hear it's pretty awesome!!! 🤣☮️❤️

[@bobicusrex]

Outer darkness sounds better than abusive Mormon heaven 😊

[@bewitched3912]

@@Fuchiboca save me a space, I'm not doing Mormon heaven with Hitler.

[@rickyodom1201]

no you want you have no body only thoughts of how rejected gods plan you really don't want to be there never feeling love from any again thats very cold place to be

[@PhoenixCavalier]

I'm so sorry that your family treated you that way. I had to rewind the video when you said you were in your 40's! You look amazing, I thought you were 30!

[@jl5442]

As a Sociology (and Religions) major I'm wondering about the quantifying/qualifying factors they use to determine their statistics. Statistics are always going to have a bias based on who did the studies and what the variables are. My dad has said more than once that he believes a belief and being raised with the belief in God was essential for basic human morals. As if an atheist, with no fear of hell and no bribery of heaven, couldn't be a good person just for the sake of being good. Definitely not something atheist based statistics would disagree with.

[@johndotter351]

Its sad that when your family only seems to love you conditionally if you only an active LDS member, cayse part if the the LDS Doctrine is you suppose to love your fellow man man uncinditionally and that you have Free Agency to make your own choices, but they resort to a shaming tactic by cutting you and your immediate family off.

[@juliaswandanner6944]

Omg the "radio voice" this guy comes in with. Yeek!

[@12345gerrard]

Unfortunately If people leave you due to a faith crisis they're weren't truly your friends anyway!

[@CandlewickLibrary]

Those ward radio guys are such jokes. My life aligns more with the “morals” that article would be referring to than most of the active members I know. Such a joke. Sorry for your experience with this. I’ve lost friends and family members too. It’s such a cult.

[@Austden]

The analogy I always give people.. imagine you’re in the military? How do you treat those who never served? Not negatively. However, how do you treat someone who served in the military and was dishonorably discharged? Worse than those who were never Mormon.

[@Walkingthelight]

I’m an ex ex mo. I was an Atheist for 4 years. My parents never shunned me or abandoned me. My brother also left. He claimed that my parents kicked him out of the house, which was never true. I am not saying that people don’t shun, but sometimes that’s just their perspective. They feel that way, but in reality your parents and family probably still care about you deeply. “Apostasy is not the worst thing a Mormon can do.”That statement is not accurate.

[@aleksandrac9335]

Love your mug wall🤩

[@Anonymousfisher12]

As a family member of Jennie’s, I can say that no one has disowned Jennie because she left the mormon church. The vast majority of our family isn’t even Mormon anymore. Many family members left the church long before Jennie did. And the only person to ever disown anyone for it, ironically enough, is Jennie herself. Jennie was absolutely horrible to those that left the church before her, telling them not to come near her or her family, for no other reason than that they left the church. It’s not my place to share other people’s reasons for not talking to Jennie anymore, but safe to say there is a LOT more to it than she says. If that was the reason for her mom’s letter, why did it come 5 years after Jennie left the Mormon church? Just take what you hear on the internet with a grain of salt and know there’s always more to the story.

[@melissadauer8757]

Gas lighting . Feel sad that no one looks at themselves. Sounds like the mom was not being an adult . Apologies go along ways . Be humble ,not self righteous and arrogant. Pride will only hurt you. Very pride filled message written here. Please feel something for others. Let’s not be so prideful. Humble people are always more likeable.

[@macauleyfletcher7331]

@@melissadauer8757 It's ironic that you're calling someone else prideful while your own message is filled with judgment and assumptions. Before you criticize others, maybe take a moment to reflect on your own words and actions. You don't know the full story or the people involved, so it's unfair to make such harsh judgments. Being humble means recognizing that we don't always have all the answers and approaching situations with an open mind, not zealously attacking others.

[@Mendax_Syntax]

I'm inclined to believe you just like I'm inclined to believe her. There were a couple things she said that made me question the completeness of her story but I don't doubt the general message she is sharing. It might be wise for her to address this concern. However I'll say this - even though the story she painted might be biased or incomplete, we've seen this reaction to people leaving the church so many times it's beyond any doubt that this does happen. Remember that Jennie probably acted harshly to people that left before her because she was basically told/trained to do so by whom? The church.

[@melissadauer8757]

@ I think I don’t know her very well, but yr message was gross. It’s okay though I’m not perfect. I think you need to work on your humility however, I’m pretty sure you’re not perfect; humility looks a lot better on people.

[@melissadauer8757]

@ I would say just be more humble . I’ve had pride issues in the past too, let’s stop:-) Grace is amazing . Jesus is God. Follow him .

[@pdhafb]

We , “ members of the Church” , don’t hate anyone.

[@craiglaw7578]

I find it remarkable that you can speak for the entire membership.

[@LeilaniLight11709]

You are a BEAUTIFUL woman and I hope this channel helps you get out the trauma and heal, because you DESERVE a wonderful mate, if that's what your heart desires. You are so warm-hearted. These people are mindcontrolled and please forgive them, for they know not what they do, BUT, also, MOVE ON, and create bonds with worthy Christian friends, but please VET THEM a long time, and be very discerning, because even satanists go to Christian churches and do philanthropy to use as a cover for their evil ways, AND there are a lot of narcissists in church, even preachers, so, you don't need any more narcissistic sociopaths like your ex. so don't believe Christians are all good, because they are NOT.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Hi thank you. I’ve been in a relationship for 5 years with a wonderful partner and am very much healed. You never get over being disowned by your entire family however. It’s painful.

[@bewitched3912]

@@lifetaketwo7662 I can't agree more! I have about 300 living Mormon relatives and in-laws and a dozen brothers and sisters. We do not talk. I still send cards for my parent's birthday, Christmas and mothers day and fathers day. I never received anything in return. I do it to feel normal and understanding my communication is a one way street. I found my community of friends outside religion. We share common interests and goals that have enriched my life and gives me joy.

[@shootergavin3541]

As an LDS person I don't hate people who leave except though I do not respect those who feel they need to attack the church on a perpetual basis. Why should it bother me if someone leaves? Their salvation does not affect me at all. Should it bother me that a person chooses Terrestrial or Telestial inheritance for all eternity? Of course not. There will be PLENTY on individuals I can hang out with in the Celestial Kingdom. I will not miss those who leave at all. It is their problem they will have to deal with, no my problem. So for those who leave, have a good life. If it turns out the church is true and you get to the other side and you find out you screwed up. I just don't want to hear any complaining. You did it to yourself. Eat your soup.

[@brianthomassen2209]

This person seems confused. Mormons don't have issues with ex-Mormons (people should seek out the good as they understand it), but likely aren't keen on anti-Mormons: since being attacked constantly isn't a recipe for healthy relationship building. This woman fits into the later camp.

[@scandia67]

Indoctrinated TBMs are constantly bleating about how they are persecuted. You aren't. You're just in a cult led by old men whose first concern is maintaining that flow of tithing and creating shell companies to hide how much money they have.

[@Latter-dailyDigest]

❤❤❤

[@mormonbear4050]

It's your family that's the issue, not the church. I have multiple family members that aren't going to church anymore, others that have resigned, and my own father was excommunicated. No one in my family that are still members have ostracized or disowned anyone.

[@grantbeck9228]

If there are a million stories like this from people who have left the church and been shunned by their own family (like me), the problem is THE CHURCH! Why do you feel like you have to defend the church? Oh yeah, the church programmed you that way.

[@andrewreed4216]

I don't hate ex-mormons. I just hope respect goes both ways.... but it does seem like your family may be extremists. I have a lot of ex Mormon friends. I would encourage you to check out what's going on with the native Americans. They are still trying to get the churches attention too. Check out the nemenhah (very supportive of women and heavenly mother) & chief midegah and the 2 temples they are building in Missouri. I wish you well anyway, and good luck on your journey 😊

[@gregcroon6768]

Their behavior is completely unBiblical. The second great commandment is to love your neighbor. Loving kindness "ksed" and compassion "rachamim" starts with the family. These are the pillars of Yeshua's teachings, as well as Judaic faith. We are also taught to be humble, yet when you feel you are a member of the "one and true" church, that feeling is the height of arrogance. Lastly, what she is expressing is the evil tongue or "lashon hara." This is considered in Judaic thought to be right there with murder. We know through scripture that those who follow the truth will face resistance, often from those who would feel they are the elect. Others have mentioned this is cult behavior and they are spot on. Do a search on the B.I.T.E. model of authoritarian control. May HaShem bless you with peace and protection and may He heal the heart of your mother and others who reject you simply because you are following HaShem's calling to you.

[@jisezer]

These Ward Radio guys are such pseudo-intellectuals. I usually don't harp on grammar, but holy shit theirs is bad.

[@Rickytbird]

There's no hate like Christian love.

[@ronaldbrochu8621]

💝💝💝💝From Angele: I am SO sorry that your family/friends/Mother treated you that way...in the midst of a life crisis no less. Such compassion. (Irony) There is certainly no love in the way they treated you. Isn't Jesus Christ's fundamental message: Treat each other with love. ????? All I have to say: CONTROL and CULT. Jenny, thank you for sharing. 💝💝💝💝

[@ursulaking4411]

I remember from Cults to Consciousness that your dad doesn't believe. How does he feel about all that, or like your mom not letting you visit him?

[@smallprints3D]

It's sad for people to treat others like that some people got lots of learning to do.Idk what world some ex Mormons live in Maybe it's a Utah culture thing I've been out for 12 yrs and my family has never ever treated me or the rest of us like this to us family is everything nither have members of the church that are not my family treated me like that or the others who have left that I know. We are from the south idk. That sounds crazy 😂😢

[@georgecuster527]

An all loving God ? Yeah right .

[@hanraddas9308]

I am an EXMORMON, and my Mormon neighbors are VERY GOOD to me (Mormon don't hate exMormons IMO). I disagree with the title of this video. My LDS friends; however, do not want to be engaged with oppositional views for more than a few minutes or so though. I think it clearly threatens their worldview. Sadly.

[@scottvance74]

Ward radio (the example used here) is rubbish, but many members are great.

[@moviehipster]

Well lucky you. I am ex mormon too, mormon neighbors who know me for 30 years barely say hi, they treat me like i have leprosy.

[@kellybrandon1179]

Salt lake city above. Salt town below

[@benparker8381]

Your experience sounds horrific. I’m so sorry to hear about how your family and friends ostracised and demonised you. I hope that their hearts are softened in the coming years and that some semblance of a meaningful relationship can be re-established, if that is indeed something you desire. I just wanted to clarify the fact that the church does not teach that “apostates” are of no value, or that they are destined for outer darkness, or that God will not be merciful in his dealings with them. My judgment of your situation, based on the little information I have, is that your parents and extended family will have more to “account” for than you. “Having” or “receiving” the gospel is a more nuanced topic than people make it out to be. Our views on the gospel are always influenced by cultural traditions, familial traditions, and psychological conditions. In many cases, people are rejecting a version of the gospel that is actually false. The BOM repeatedly teaches about how false traditions impact generations in negative ways, and that the “sins” ultimately fall on the heads of those from which the traditions sprang. I believe this will absolutely be the case in your situation. Just wanted to provide some clarity on the matter. Again, I’m so sorry about the experiences you’ve had. No member or former member, no matter how “justified” or “unjustified” they are in leaving the church, should be treated as you were. My heart goes out to all of you.

[@robertlaw8510]

I have two adult daughters, both of them in their late 30's or early 40's, who have left the Church. My wife and I do not hate them nor have we ostracized them. They are welcome in our home at any time for any reason. If your family is treating you badly, that is for personal reasons. The Church teaches that we should love everyone regardless of color or beliefs.

[@bryanpratt5850]

I am terribly sorry for all the pain that you’ve experienced. I wish your mom and family members were supportive and loving. I had similar experiences but I don’t remember it being anywhere near that bad for me. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences.

[@realrichardrowe]

Curious...Did she come from a more fundamentalist LDS teaching? I do not see hate towards inactive and/or ex-mormons. I see more hate from ex-mormons towards those still in the church.

[@salemthorup9536]

I'm sorry if this is your experience, but in my experience and that of many that I know (both current members and ex members that choose to not alternate all their member friends and family), there's not hate. I don't hate any ex members. I really don't like how you talk about us. And when I say "you", I'm talking about you as an individual. Ex Mormons come in a very large variety of people and plenty of them are more agreeable than you are. But even you and any other disagreeable ex Mormons--- I don't hate and most members I know don't hate. Please don't speak for us and our feelings. I don't like being misrepresented, especially by someone who said they would forbid their own children from ever dating or marrying any member.

[@SuLolly2]

Can you blame her? My gosh you people are so brain washed. Ask her how many so called members came to help her when her sorryass husband left her to die!

[@randallsmith7885]

Sorry about your miserable experience. It seems like you had some of the worst experiences possible. Family roulette. Their reactions demonstrate the fear that the church’s indoctrination process gives to people. They are mortally afraid. And they are embarrassed that their family member does not comply with their cultish rules. It is about them - not you. And none of this is surprising. Sending well wishes.

[@brotherofiam]

Your perception is your reality. However, your "ostracizing" family members perception may not be what you think. You mention opposing their church. If you leave the church, leave the church alone. Some members who may not have a solid faith may feel threatened by negative views of what they believe to be true. Accept others and allow them to hold their beliefs, as they should also respect your right to belief what you will. We are all children of God.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@@brotherofiam I’m an atheist there is no god and why work anyone ever NOT pull back the curtain on a toxic organization?

[@brotherofiam]

@@lifetaketwo7662 Your perception is not my reality.

[@harambeboy]

Ward radio sucks

[@tim1955chevy]

So much misrepresentation

[@earthlair5696]

Kinda sounds like you married your mother they could be twins. The whole shame you into submission thing the moral Superiority thus she forgets not being able to attend you're wedding for not being worthy enough. This whole your only as good as I say you are thing is why I only made it 5 years. I am greatful my daughter now a grown woman was never influenced or infected by there almost drug like addiction to judgeing those that are not them. I would think this would be exhausting.