moshix delivers an IBM S/370 and tours a mainframe data center - M112

[@harley311255]

Thanks, Moshix for joining us in Germany and especially thanks to your contribution to our meeting of the Academic Mainframe Consortium! It was a great pleasure to have you here at the IBM lab in Boeblingen and we all hope to see you soon again.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Unforgettable experience. Thank you

[@franzbernasek4058]

i love the ibm 360/370 in the early 70 i have learn programming on this systems with punch-card

[@pparadigm]

Thanks, nice to see these machines.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Agree

[@AmauryJacquot]

those bus and tag cables are very thin !

[@MrKurtHaeusler]

So is this some museum people can visit? My kids would like this.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Sorry but it’s not a museum and it’s not accessible to the public. And I am not even allowed to say where it is. But that’s why we have the videos. Make sure to visit also the moshix mainframe channel page on FB for more videos from that visit

[@RaymondHng]

There's an IBM 1401 at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, USA open to the public. Ken Ross and Paul Laughton demo the IBM 1401 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jILYlnaqZpZnfc0 IBM 1401 compiles and runs FORTRAN II kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3e0ZKaXn66Xl68 Debugging the 1959 IBM 729 Vacuum Column Tape Drive kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX3LZXaDr8SNbK8 IBM 1401 mainframe runs "Edith" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqXPo3yKradop8k

[@linuxfreck]

@@moshixmainframechannel this collection used to be the IBM Museum in Sindelfingen, Germany. I was lucky enough to visit it in 2011 and have a 2 hour guided tour there. But IBM management sold the building in 2013 and wanted all this equipment to be scrapped (!). There are still quite a few articles on it available in the Web, so I'm not sure why this is supposed to be secret. The IBM client center at the Lab in Böblingen jumped in and put all the equipment into one of their data centers. As a fun fact, this is now in an active data center and all equipment is regularly tested for electrical code compliance. Hence you see 1950 tube equipment with stickers saying that they are tested to be code compliant until 2020 etc. Since then though, the museum is only accessible to IBM clients on a visit to this site, as it is within the lab security perimeter and people need to be signed in, badges need to be handed out etc. If you happen to have more footage, please post it here as a separate video, this is probably the most comprehensive collection of working IBM hardware and has the full genealogy beginning with the 1890 Hollerith tabulating machine. You only showed a very small part of the entire thing. This should really get a better audience compared to just a part of a trip report. I don't think there is anything comparable available in youtube yet. Plus, IBM has announced that it would close the IBM Lab in the next few years, so god knows what's happening with the hardware given that they already tried to scrap it.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

I was asked to not tell about it (and it’s not a museum !) and to not show too much. So I abide by the rules

[@MrKurtHaeusler]

@@linuxfreck Very interesting, I am in that neighborhood (or was until recently) quite regularly. I should see if I have any IBM contacts that can get me in :-)

[@n2185x]

The German location of the datacenter makes this obligatory: ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten. 😀

[@jack417k]

Hey Moshix, you mentioned you worked on the 9370. I was a hardware designer on pieces of that from 82-86. I worked on the I/O bus interface chips and the M68000 based I/O processor. Also worked with the HW team in Endicott and Rochester. I am still at IBM. What did you work on ?

[@moshixmainframechannel]

My employer has purchase a bunch of the 9370s to run VSE and CICS with an application we had written in several offices around the world.

[@jack417k]

@@moshixmainframechannel I see. As you might know, the low end of that machine was originally going to be something very different. The microprocessor is a RISC engine and a new OS was going to be written to allow it to replace the low end 370, s/36,s/38, and 8100 systems. This turned out to be too ambitious, so an emulator (like Hercules) was run on it to become the 9370. Similar hardware also became the as/400. The processor team moved to Austin to design the RS/6000 with a slightly different RISC architecture.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Yes there were always rumors about that. And the performance kind of showed it :-)

[@jack417k]

@@moshixmainframechannel exactly.

[@stonent]

So the Wikipedia article says the 9370 was "compatible with the S/370" just as the one for the 4300 was "compatible with the S/370" What made it merely "compatible" and not sold under the S/370 name? Was the compatability at the software level only but cards were unique or what?

[@dietermontanez6576]

moshix .. can I get the stencil for that raspi cover?

[@oliverobi5496]

Very nice Video :-) regards from Germany O.Obi

[@KameraShy]

Times have sure changed. Just drop into Moscow, deliver a computer to a Russian correspondent and munch on some pizza at a trendy bistro. I am old enough to remember when something like that would have been inconceivable.

[@moshixmainframechannel]

So true

[@nadir.salinas4584]

And now, after just 3 years, it would be again inconceivable...so sad

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Indeed. I was thinking the same when I rewatched this video the other day. The time are achanging.

[@grappydingus]

Замечательно! Enjoy your mainframe! Makes me wonder what the Russian clone of the 370 was? I'm guessing they had one.

[@grigorytrenin8430]

The series was called "ЕС ЭВМ". S/360 = ЕС ЭВМ-1 series S/370 = ЕС ЭВМ-2 series And example of particular models are ЕС-1065 or ЕС-1045, both are S/370 clones. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_EVM (russian version has more info)

[@stonent]

@@moshixmainframechannel Every assembly instruction you do not give me.... I cut off a finger... Mine or yours? YOURS!

[@vmisev]

ЕС ЭВМ (ES EVM) ES-1066, 1086 IBM-3033 ES-1061 IBM-370/158 ES-1060 IBM-370/158 ES-1055 IBM-370/155 ES-1046 IBM-3031 ES-1045 IBM-3031 ES-1036 IBM-370/148 ES-1035 IBM-370/138 ES-1033 IBM-370/145 ES-1022 IBM-360/50 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_EVM "Pioneers of Soviet Computing" by Boris Nikolaevich Malinovsky (pdf): www.sigcis.org/files/SIGCISMC2010_001.pdf

[@DavidDHahn]

Ausgezeichnet! What a beautiful piece of hardware.

[@Lehander100]

Григорий Привет))) поздравляю)

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Я тоже!

[@Lehander100]

moshix sorry I congratulated Grygoriy :) Of course I congratulate you too for your contribution on the KZbin

[@moshixmainframechannel]

No, I meant “me too” am congratulating Grigory !! I don’t need congrats but thanks a lot :-)

[@grigorytrenin8430]

Спасибо! :)

[@moshixmainframechannel]

Hope to see you on my next visit !!

[@bjarnenilsson80]

Nice video, but the nstional enthem was wrong, you used the USSR anthem, not the Russian one

[@moshixmainframechannel]

I know. And I didn’t imply it was the current anthem. The song I played after was soviet, also

[@bjarnenilsson80]

moshix never mind that part of the commrntnwasca prain fart in my part, anyway nice vid

[@richardwargo5201]

Wow, other than fact that everyone is speaking some aboriginal form of Klingon, you'd think you were on Earth.

[@richardwargo5201]

But I do so enjoy your videos, Moshix, they bring back a lot of fond memories.