Mosmatic Fittings Overview

[@1975oldschool]

This is exactly the info I was looking for, thank you for the information!

[@PadmaDorjee]

You just saved me a couple hundred bucks... Thanks for sharing

[@div216]

I have the same problem. After comparing the new 1/4 quick disconnect with the one I have I found out that the bearings inside the mosmatic has smaller diameter and it’s barely holding the nozzle. What I did is I put an o-ring on the nozzle shaft where the bearings holding the nozzle and problem solved not moving anymore.

[@jtm1979]

I dont have any problems with mosmatic fittings but then again have european version bsp gun and fittings. Love em.

[@xrayos12]

Chris, I'm at a crossroads and glad I saw your video. I have the same mosmatic gun and original MTM fittings from 5 years ago. They work well. However, I wanted to see if you feel the same way about the mosmatic fittings. Would you do it again? I may have to upgrade the mosmatic wand to have the same 1/4" mosmatic QD coupler in addition to the fitting on the gun. Seems like overkill as I have a setup that works.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@xrayos12 I probably would have left it alone if I had to do it again and put my money elsewhere. It's a lot of money for some fittings and they're steps better, not leaps. They didn't live up to my expectations.

[@xrayos12]

@@ChrisL-rh7io Thanks! Just ordered some made in china fittings online, m22 hose coupler and 1/4 QD couplers. they just arrived and look just like the mosmatic fittings and it's smoother than the mtm fittings. it could be that they're just new, but still for an item that can fail, I'd rather spend $20 for 3 sets of fittings. thanks for the video. saved me over $150 (new wand and new fittings)

[@arturrokosz4363]

I updated to Mosmatic for all my quick connect. Not sure if it’s worth it? Was tired how hard it was to work with the old ones!! The Suttner quick connect nuzzles work perfect. It looks exactly the same, for $2,50 a piece!!

[@jpmcfrosty]

I’m having leak issues but it sounded like you’re having issues from the couple and quick disconnect. My leaking issue is coming from the actual 3/8 screw on that attaches to the mm gun itself

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

Are you using crescent wrenched to tighten? Do you use plumbers tape? You need a very tight seal on these fittings so you'll need combination or open ended wrenches, and plumbers tape. They gotta be torqued very tight to prevent leaks.

[@arturrokosz4363]

Just so you know, Suttner quick connect nuzzles fit those Mosmatic perfect. It looks identical at $2,50 each!! I’m not sure it’s worth upgrading to Mosmatic quick connect. I was tired of the old ones how hard it was to use it!!

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

Yup, I had a bit of buyers remorse but at least it doesn't really get better than Mosmatic. I won't have to think about it for awhile.

[@CartubeCoIl]

Well Suttner manufacture for Mosmatic, it's ST2605 model.

[@RawLobst3r]

Did you ever try the OG Spec Nozzles in the original MTM couplers? Ordering my first set up and want to go with a regular MTM SGS-28 and like the OG Spec Nozzles, but am worried that their Mosmatic fittings might be loose in the MTM coupler...

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

I'd opt for MTM or General Pump fittings instead - I'm not sure it makes sense to put $50 fitting accessories on a $90 gun. I've also learned Mosmatic are just copies of Sutners with a mark up.

[@RawLobst3r]

@@ChrisL-rh7io Right on, thanks for the reply! I finally decided after all these years of youtube review lurking I'm finally upgrading into that prosumer level and just having a tough time with the balancing act of price, value, need and want. Can't decide on high end accessories and an AR 675 Pro, or Mid Tier Accessories and a Kranzle. Always the wild card option of High end Acc. and an Active VE52 and open up the budget for other products and supplies I need. Any thoughts lol?

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@RawLobst3r I was looking into the VE52 over a year ago before it ended up on OG considering the specs it was showing. There were only 2 youtubes in the community using it at the time but it also was only $140 before. The week before Matt put it on his channel, it went up to $180 then $210 shortly after. I think it's close to $250 now. Things have definitely gotten more expensive due to covid but I think that's a move to take advantage of consumers by putting the pressure washer on the cusp of something more higher end price wise as it has solid specs + TSS. I used to follow a lot of OG videos but although I get why they do stuff like that, it just doesn't sit well with me. That being said, I think a pressure washer with 2.0+ gpm, and ~1,000 psi is solid for car detailing and it prob doesn't matter what price point you get it at. I guess what I recommend is get what you're excited about and would be happy with but also be cautious because there is some bs in the industry like the price gouging on the VE52 and 1000s of LSPs.

[@RawLobst3r]

@@ChrisL-rh7io Appreciate it. The intrinsic value that stems from the engineering and industrial/functional appeal of the high end gear does pull at me, but I also understand the reality of it. If fronting a source of a particular flow with the same gun/wand/hoses etc, the user experience will likely be very similar regardless of the source/PW providing that flow, save for sound/reliability. Consuming and meshing all the available content/reviews, It might make sense to grab a VE52 now with all of the add-ons I want, use the rest of the budget for other products and gear, and if the 52 takes a dump at some point I will have gotten further down the road and have more peripherals. Depending on when/if that breakdown happens, assess things and move to an expensive unit if needed. Or I say F it, throw that thought track out the windows, and buy a Kranzle. Then upgrade my accessories along the way. Who, knows, product stock may make the decision for me.

[@annagraham6204]

I’m more confused now than before watching this lol You summed it up at the end to make more sense. As skeptical as I am I wouldn’t be surprised if it was partially by design to have these complications. If you’re willing to spend x amount on gun you’ll keep spending on so called upgrades to get it right.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

I definitely felt like I had drank the kool-aid a bit when these quick disconnects arrived. There's a market and interest out there for these premium products, but the best way I could describe how I felt is something like I bought $100 socks for my $100 shoes and the $10 socks I had before were perfecly fine. Yea, they were nicer, yes, but I likely won't buy more.

[@angelad75]

@@ChrisL-rh7ioquestion. How do we understand the markings on the tip of the spray nozzle so we know which size we have? My mosmatic pressure washer nozzle (one with the black rubber cover like in your video) says 25045 on it. My other nozzle says 40045 on it. Does the first 2 numbers represent the fan degree and the last 2 represent the orifice? If so then I understand it. Lastly. If the last 2 represent the orifice size. Is it the bigger the size the more flow and less pressure and the smaller size orifice we go drops flow and increases pressure? Thanks

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@angelad75 Yup, numbers represent fan degree then orifice. The larger the orifice, the higher the flow and the lower the pressure. That balance is going to vary on a case by case basis. 4.5 is very high for an electric pressure washer - do you have a gas one?

[@angelad75]

@@ChrisL-rh7io no have a 1322 Kranzle pressure washer.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@angelad75 The suggested orifice size for that is 4.0. You'd want 4.5 for the 1122.

[@whitegoodman7465]

If your gonna upgrade your fittings to mosmatic, everything has to be mostmatic from the gun to the lance to the foam cannon plugs to the end of the hose, etc..prima mtm fittings im sure would fit regular mtm quick connects but if your upgrading, upgrade all of it.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

What logic is this based on? These are national standard sizes and thread patterns. This is an issue of production tolerances which got resolved with O rings.

[@tonytrieu800]

Thanks for the overview I was planning to upgrade mine to the new Mosmatic Fitting but skeptical any issues and if it is worth to upgrade.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

No issues, but I still think about how the cost of 3 fittings was more than I paid for the gun.. That's pretty outrageous. Like I had mentioned in the video, if I had to do it again, I don't know if I would. I think the money is better spent elsewhere unless you really wanna just ball out.

[@sterrshow5016]

@@ChrisL-rh7io Ball at all cost, I just bought two.

[@anthony3953]

For the $50 nozzles I’m quite interested these regulate the pressure down correct? If obviously ordered for the right orrifice right?

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

They do exactly the same thing as the cheaper nozzles that are color assorted. They just cost 10x more...

[@anthony3953]

@@ChrisL-rh7io but the smaller ones also would lower pressure if I order the right ones for my setup right (orrifice size)

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@anthony3953 Lowering the orifice size would increase the psi output, but you'd also be working your pressure washer motor harder. It's recommended to not deviate too far from recommended size

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@anthony3953 Got it. The GPM your machine puts out also comes into play. If your machine is electric, it likely doesn't actually put out 3k PSI. Have you measured it? This is a good spreadsheet OG has put out - would be a good place to start. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1239/9256/files/Pressure_Washer_Spreadsheet_2-3-21_Update.pdf?v=1612375512

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@anthony3953 I had figured you were using a gas one. I believe he uses a 4.0 on the 1622TS, which is 1600PSI, and he's lowering it to 1000 PSI. You're working with way more PSI. Take a look at this - it's what he uses at home and he uses a 7.0 to lower it 1200 PSI. I think 4.0 is going to be way too small as thats what I use on a 1100 PSI, 2GPM machine.. www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/kranzle/products/kranzle-kws700ts

[@1kontrabida]

Try changing to a bigger rubber seal inside the coupler, and i hear you on the cost of the Gun in total when ur done setting it up, i even switched to silicone nitride ceramic bearings lol in the end i think itll payoff because using brass, ur gonna end up maintaining the gun from the oxidationa n gunk build up.

[@chokh8850]

I was so hyped and ordered the mosmatic 245 coupler and swivel, the swivel is definitely nice, but the quick connect coupler, is terribly bad. It's not even as shiny, smooth, easy to press, feel premium as the veloci prima quick connects i have. It feels so cheap smh.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

Yea, the QDs are definitely nicer but not worth the extra $

[@tommyt484]

Baller set up

[@MNpicker]

Shit.. i wish i would have seen this yesterday.. before I spent $60 on MTM fittings🤦‍♂️😞

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

I saw they had a 40% sale. Can't go wrong with that big of a discount but I can confirm their quality has definitely gone down across the board after testing out a few more fittings.

[@MNpicker]

@@ChrisL-rh7io Was that just connecting the MTM fittings to the Mosmatic fittings? Or was there issues connecting the MTM to MTM fittings? I have had noticed when connecting MTM to MTM they can get a little tight..but after using them for a while.. they seem to work fine.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@MNpicker I haven't purchased any new plugs from them. I've only been testing the new couplers and the coupler sleeve slightly locks when being used. Other new couplers also leak with Mosmatic plugs.

[@lelandhud4089]

So you did all that because the coupler has a sleek look and quieter hook up ? It sounds like brass is the way to go. Why is brass bad besides the scratchy sound. I use my rig every day at work on concrete and houses , cars and raw soil. Never any probs with brass fittings.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

I used to use brass fittings but they all became corroded over time. I haven't had that issue yet with stainless steel but that's only. my personal experience. I don't use these for work so I don't mind paying a premium for them to look and feel better although the Mosmatic fittings are on another level that I probably won't do again.

[@rafars2246]

Mosmatic is a total joke for the price. Just bought their swivel and is going back lol. Mosmatic guns are made by Suttner. Your gun is exactly the same as the ST-2605, but without swivel. I got mine for $30 after a coupon on ebay... I can put my own swivel lol

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

I got mine for $80 from Kleen Rite, not OG for $110 or whatever it's going for there. The Mosmatic Swivel was leagues better than the MTM I had which I originally upgraded due to wrist strain. I work a desk job, and as silly as it sounds, it has definitely taken a toll on my hands/wrists. For me, the strain relief was more than worth it.

[@rafars2246]

@@ChrisL-rh7io not silly at all! I'm 40, and retired, so I don't even work lol. The MTM swivels are terrible. Even my $40 gun with built in swivel was doing better than that. I returned the MTM... The Mosmatic swivel is great, I just don't think is worth it for the money. I found General Pump being the greatest for swivels, nozzles and quick connects etc. When it comes to the gun, as I said same thing. The extra bulk of the non integrated swivel does nothing in my opinion. I can't tell a difference because the hoses are very stiff anyway when close to the connections.

[@ChrisL-rh7io]

@@rafars2246 Yep, I was using practically all GP items before Mosmatic too! Still am for most connections outside of the gun.

[@rafars2246]

@@ChrisL-rh7io next time you know, get yourself the ST-2605. Exact same gun in the internals, same trigger for a fraction of the price. Mosmatic sells another version without swivel, but doesn't have the same trigger. You could even buy a "superior", food grade, all stainless gun from the real manufacturer at cheaper price still.

[@rafars2246]

@@ChrisL-rh7io if you want easy of use, nothing compares to the insulated quick connects from Northstar.

[@mrshep49]

Obsessed garage… how can we take a $100+ gun and charge $100+ more by only replacing 2 $3 fittings… the kranzall sucks ass lol

[@richardfabrizio8998]

Freak