Most common limb lengthening complications

[@adi3]

Such a boss! Thanks for all the balanced information you provide in the videos. Happy holidays!

[@mikegreenskywalker]

Thanks for another video Vic. One of the things always troubled me most pre-surgery is trying to asses what are the chances (suppose by percentages) for each of the complications, depending on different factors (technique, bone type, age, etc).

[@Cyborg4Life]

I know I wish I could confidently give a % but I’m just basing my ordering off of the tally of patient emails I received for each (or combo) of the complications. If I were to make a guesstimate for a patient who goes the max recommended length of a given limb segment I’d say delayed unions and mild muscle contractures are about 25% but are often resolved by slowing distraction and patience. The nerve irritation would probably be around 15-20% and with a hefty drop off for premature consolidation to about 3%. Again this is a rough tally and unless I had a sufficiently large sample size of actual patient data my guessing is unfortunately inconclusive

[@joelentrup6658]

Good video, it’s important to find a good surgeon.

[@tomasrodriguez7487]

Always informative, Merry Christmas & God Bless brother

[@liamcelik4212]

Men still enjoying your videos ... great job

[@Abhishekyadav-us8jn]

Nothing i have for u right now other than blessings from the bottom of my heart ❤

[@twentyonekatz4998]

Hello Vic, I want to wish you happy new years from Russia! С новым годом)) Ive been watching your videos for nearly two years by now, and youve been an incredibly knowledgeable and grounding influence on my height journey. I wanted to ask you if there was anywhere I could contact you because I have a question about a specific situation with regards to LL surgery eligibility. I hope this doesn’t bother you. Thank you for all your help and inspiration, you are strong!

[@MilIMeta]

Great video

[@SA-Aries]

Victor also make videos on different institutes which provide this treatment and are trustable. And also those institutes which are doing research currently in finding new ways for limb lengthing. Its like weekly updates about height increase researches around the world.

[@xrpjd3301]

Hey I found your channel and I subscribed you really help us short guys I’m really considering getting this done I’m a bit nervous about it I’m 5’4 and 36yrs old I’ve always felt like everyone sees me like a kid because of my height and never felt like just a normal man. I’m in LA who would you recommend?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Sure have you considered Dr. Mahoboubian in BurbanK? Hope this helps!

[@richierich1984]

Step 1.... do what the surgeons, physical therapists and nutritionists say.... step 2... repeat = Low Odds of Issues.... also... stretch, sleep and pray ;)

[@SA-Aries]

Hi Victor ,will you comment on the channel " Livelifetaller " and their work. If possible please show us details by scheduling interview with them. So that we can know about their work

[@Akhir-x8i]

Livelifetaller is not good for Limb lengthening surgery.

[@yonischriber9612]

Hey vic .may i talk to you personally? Is there any way we can talk in private. Thank you!

[@l2rlive520]

why some people did not get 90% recovery 10 years after surgery?.. please tell me

[@abdellahinemine9315]

Could you have run into any of those problems although you were fixing leg discrepancy and not cosmetic? Did Dr. Conway told you that those complications could happen and you still took the risk ? Thanks in advance my man.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah the first 5 complications are equally as likely for one or two legs at a time although most patients that emailed me were cosmetic stature patients and I just roughly tallied them up which how they were ordered

[@abdellahinemine9315]

So, did some of the patient told you they run into those complications? Did they say why the run into those complications? Was it just not doing good PT or? It would be nice if you make a video on how to avoid those. Thanks for the response.

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@abdellahinemine9315 they didn’t really say. I’m sure things may not have been perfect but sometimes things just happen during lengthening regardless of how hard a patient tries to avoid it.

[@l2rlive520]

after how many years you got 98% recovery... please tell me

[@mrknavish3659]

You need to spilt your voice audio track in editing. Can only hear you voice on one speaker.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Good catch yeah when I plugged my Rode wireless go ii into my camera it does that when using camera audio I now separate them that’s years ago thanks so much for feedback!

[@Rifat835]

I've been looking for this question in the comment section of every video that has been uploaded by Victor, but unfortunately, I couldn't find it. So, I'm gonna leave it here. My question is how long do I have to keep the internal nail after the LL surgery and especially with the LON method, after full healing and bone consolidation, do I have to remove the nail a few years later? Or I could keep it as long as I wish to without any potential risks of complication in the future? What is more suitable? Please do answer this Victor.

[@Cyborg4Life]

LON you can get it out after about 1 year or so but no rush since theres not a magnet in it so you can keep as long as you wish without potential risks in future

[@Rifat835]

@@Cyborg4Life Thank you so much for the answers, it means a lot to me, hope you keep doing whatever you've been doing for this community, lots of love and wishes for you my brother, cheers.

[@leo32190]

All these complications are in the lengthening phase right? If the lengthening phase is smooth and you start consolidating, there is no more worries for complications?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Most are

[@yahyejahid5907]

Hey Vic, did any of those patient that run into complications and emailed you had the surgeries in or out of the US? Or if you don’t want tit share their surgeons, can you at least tell if any of them had Dr. Conway or Assiyag lol ? I plan to go to either of those and by the way I have been a subscriber for awhile and you have never answered any of my questions lol

[@Cyborg4Life]

It’s so weird but I just today realized all your comments went into the “needs review” batch so I just now saw them among many others YT thought was spam so I apologize. To answer yes a good amount had it done in US and some internationally also. Delayed unions are super common but are easily fixed

[@yahyejahid5907]

No worries brother. I appreciate your response.

[@philza9991]

@@yahyejahid5907 I wrote 1 comment he answered, than I subbed. 😂 And than I watched every video

[@noah_ayyubi]

Scared the life out of me fuck man

[@yahyejahid5907]

Why are you going through the surgery now ?

[@moinmoin9959]

Sorry if i didnt heard it but how big are the chances of that complications ? i mean they seem to be so low that i could ignore them

[@Cyborg4Life]

Don't have exact statistics as my email compilation is rather small compared to years of patient cases surgeons should have. But no, never ignore them , just be aware of them and listen to your surgeon

[@kasimirb5155]

How does the bone know in which direction to grow? With a normal fracture, there is bone on bone. Cells just have to "reconnect". With limb lengthening, there is a gap up to 8 cm. No neighboring cells to connect to. Why should the bone grow at all? Why not just closing the ends? Why not growing sideways or spreading like a tumor?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Great question so the answer is bc there technically is bone in the gap or should be - even if slight - just for that reason to have bone regenerate to allow the bone to consolidate and remodel with all its proper layering eventually with the ossification of hard compact cortical bone that you can walk on. However if you lengthen too fast this could result in a severely delayed or possible non-union where nothing would grow at all. So yes there does need to be a “bone circuit” and if there is a break in this chain you will have poor or no bone growth

[@FiendlyLunatic]

Just a question out of curiosity: Say a 5.7 guy does the surgerys on all 4 ares, gaining 10-15cm total hight. when if at all could he do something similar or just the femur one? as in, can one get the same bone extended multiple times, and what are the absolute limits anyone can go to? a second time? maybe even a third?

[@Cyborg4Life]

for same bone a year but different bone 3 weeks. Dr paley does it with option 5: limblengthening.org/lengthening-strategies/

[@FiendlyLunatic]

@@Cyborg4Life thx mate! :)

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

Hello, i have knock knees which makes my walk very unnatural and slowed my walking speed down too. How would getting leg lengthening surgery affect that? It already sucks having knock knees i would imagine my walking would get worse? Would it make the rehabilitation and recovery harder? First off who do i even talk to to get knock knees fixed? Can it be done without surgery? Sorry i know this is alot of questions.

[@Cyborg4Life]

No worries you’re doing right by asking these questions. So the cool thing is the LL surgeon is also a deformity correction specialist and can fix your knock knees - sometimes as you do your leg lengthening. I would start by contacting a LL surgeon you trust and setup a consultation. After that they will assess the degree of knock knees (valgus) you have and inform you if LL can be done simultaneously or one after the other. Hope this helps!

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

@@Cyborg4Life thanks 🙏

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

@@Cyborg4Life thats great news to hear that both can be done by a LL surgeon. Do you know how much height you gain from just fixing knock knees itself? With the knock knees, My height right now is 5'8.

[@akashbandhaiya9392]

Please take interview with sunil saini from India

[@catDADDY338]

love from INDIA 💖💖💖💖

[@pandat9011]

Can you do interview with 20years old patients who had done this surgery in 2000

[@fabiocosta1519]

Brother you are the best content creator in the WORLD on this topic, I'm 1.56 cm. One question, I about 7-8 years ago I had a tibia fracture I did not have surgery or put pins or anything just put me in a cast. Will the operation have any complications in my case to try to gain the 13-15cm?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Good question as I had the same issue as you did. I had a broken leg on my tibia and casted and then nearly 10 years later I got LL on the same leg and although my surgeon needed to make adjustments in the procedure due to a slight deformity I had I successfully lengthened. Once you consult with the surgeon they will explain what can be done in your specific case

[@23evulp8]

I have a calf tear healing right now, do you think in 2-5 years when I have the cash that would affect the safety of me performing the LL ? Thank you so much for your content.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah bc by then your calf tear should be fully recovered so shouldn't be an issue

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

Hello, If you were to get limb lengthening surgery, would you have to get it for your arms too to make your arms longer? To be able to reach stuff higher. I feel like if i were to be taller in height i still probably wouldnt be able to reach high stuff because of arm length. But idk...

[@Cyborg4Life]

You could lengthen humerus (upper arm bone) but should refrain from doing so unless surgeon and you both agree proportions are so far off and would functionally affect you. Otherwise it's probably not worth doing the arm lengthening as many patients have long enough arms

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

@@Cyborg4Life alright. That is Good to know. And thanks for always replying. 🙏

[@AB-bp6qj]

What if we increase the bone just 250 micrometres instead of 1 mm everyday, will it help getting back to normal better? I know it will take more time to get the desired height but won't it be less risky and much safer?

[@philza9991]

34 years later..... The bone heals when the bone is finished with healing than the lengthening process is finished. So basically to answer your questions no.

[@aaccount9486]

If you have a bunion foot pain will it make recovery harder?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Probably not if your shoes can compensate for the foot pain experienced due to the bunion when walking

[@Alex-jr7kk]

Hello, I have a question : let’s say I want to do the surgery in 5 years. Would continuous stretch exercices, and trying to be more flexible during the meantime be useful to avoid nerve damage ?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Possibly but stretching has a more short-term effect on enhancing flexibility so a few months to couple of days before is most ideal taper for effectiveness.

[@alex0315]

I have a slight bow leg condition, if I lengthen my legs, will that be corrected during the lengthening process itself? Or do they need to fix the bow leg condition separately and with extra cost? I personally don't care for the slight bow legs, I just want to lengthen my legs.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Most surgeons can do it at the same time with special techniques and or devices so you can lengthen and correct all at one time

[@LiOgiOGamerxDZ]

HELLO brother cyborg hope your doing okey if you're kind enough to answer me please i'm 177cm and i want to add about 14cm to my height like 7cm fumer 7cm tibia . or 8cm fumer and 6cm tibia its always good to be taller the problem is i'm a soccer player and i have plans to turn pro in the next years the issue is can i be back to play soccer after the quadreterial surgery if i work hard in therapy and good diet or it well be like a dealbreaker thank you so much my brother stay safe

[@LiOgiOGamerxDZ]

@Tridenium first of all thanks to god you made it safe from cancer ,..you've came out of a big war as a winner it doesn't matter how tall are you or how much you weigh or ...etc you're just a winner bro congrats 🌹🌹

[@LiOgiOGamerxDZ]

@Tridenium funny info : i grew 1cm last now i'm 178cm and i'm 19yrs old

[@LiOgiOGamerxDZ]

@Tridenium do stretching exercices u get extra 2inches in your back , but keep doing them or you lose them

[@cool-ml4cw]

Hey, what are the chances % of premature consolidation?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Very low according to surgeons and even my own predictions based on patient emails. I’d say around 2-4% and that’s usually for younger (less than 25yr old) people too

[@viceeroyy]

do you have things you couldn't do now bc u had underwent through LLS.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Because of LL…probably not no. Bc of training style yes. I think I was really only restricted by my patellar tendon for about 2 years until I strengthened surrounding muscles. The bone itself has never affected me negatively post-LL. And once my calf muscles regained their full ROM I was good in that department so really I think heavy weight training and my discrepancy I had for years impacted me far more than LL ever did and I’m being 100% serious. Good alignment, fully healed bones and flexible muscles will ensure you barely remember LL 2 years after surgery minus scars. It’s patients that push for extreme length or beyond what their body can handle is the ones who will suffer recovery and or performance rebound

[@cloroxbleach121]

Who here is 5’8?

[@velocity1171]

5’9 all my mates are at least 6 ft hate it man feel so small all the time and I’m average height for a male but everyone I know is so much taller

[@u_cant_handle_the_truth]

Hey Vic best just wondering if it's necessary to have nails removed after lon surgery after the 1-1.5 years? Are there any cons not removing? I had both infection and damage to external fixator Also you should do a fitness channel Your in great shape and do such a good job with content and explaining here I'm sure it would do well 💪

[@Cyborg4Life]

I don’t think it’s necessary but I recommend it as I believe it can restrict your organic movement to some extent. But no rush as with magnetic nails. Thanks I appreciate it I might do a spin off channel if I can recover from a recent injury that I hope doesn’t need surgery 🤞

[@zulaikha2765]

i use to think about this surgery and was determined of getting it but its no use to me as i found out i cant do atleast 6 inches so id be satisfied since im a 5'2 male at age of 18 i wasnt even worried about the price but the amount of complications and pain it has for 2 inches not even worth the time pain and risk just to still be under the average womens height but thank so much for clearing all this up for me becuase many indian doctors was basically lieing about being able to do 6 inches and i wouldve thrown my self in a death trap if havent watched your videos about reality

[@Cyborg4Life]

I’m glad the content helped you make that decision as LL is not for everyone

[@23evulp8]

Bro I’m only a inch taller than you and I’m HEAVILY considering this. But 5’6 would be more than enough for me. I’m just sick of being the same height as most girls I

[@johnnypinkleton9410]

Do you think this surgery will decrease in cost over time? It seems like only a handful of surgeons can perform it.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Only if the devices get cheaper and more surgeons catch wind that this is a growing industry

[@tejeswar6961]

In turkey 30000usd for limb lengthening is it safe plz sir reply

[@Akhir-x8i]

Livelifetaller is nog good for limb lengthening surgery

[@gandalfthestoned116]

Hey bro, I've been wondering what's the pain like during the daily distraction phase with the new methods like Precice, or Stryde? Is it really painful?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Sure so iI have a part 1 and part 2 is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2XQfWZmgdyrnqM

[@gandalfthestoned116]

@@Cyborg4Life thx bro

[@gandalfthestoned116]

@@Cyborg4Life Hey, just watched your video, but I still have the inquiry about the pain during the daily distraction you do with the Precice for example, when you lengthen with the magnet device. How bad is the pain? You didn't cover it in the link you mentioned ^^ Thanks.

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@gandalfthestoned116 Pain isn't that bad after first two weeks or so

[@CPPidiots]

Does your body adapt to your new height in terms of muscle growth potential? In powerlifting, height to weight class ratio is important. Lets say I wanna train for optimal strength 2 years after the operation. Will my muscle growth potential increase as well?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah your muscle will lengthen with bone but takes longer to mature but 2 years seems to be long enough to do so and be strong enough for intense lifting

[@LJ-bh1tt]

Basically the 5 most common are likely to happen?

[@Cyborg4Life]

More likely than not but not likely per se

[@mvsebastian]

How optimal is to use rods that are not in your bone vs in your bone ?

[@Cyborg4Life]

I assume you mean external fixator vs internal nail. Mostly infection and patient comfort

[@mvsebastian]

@@Cyborg4Life I mean I saw pictures of fixators that are inside your feet but they are not inside the bone.

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@mvsebastian They are outside your bone but sometimes nail inside your bone for the LON method. Depends

[@mvsebastian]

@@Cyborg4Life hmm. We always talk about LLS but we never talk about implications with bone marrow. I am curious where it goes and hoe it comes back

[@StrykezMan09]

Hey Vic, happy holidays! In your previous video you covered getting one leg done at a time, would doing so increase or decrease the chances of these complications happening? Thanks for your work 👍

[@Cyborg4Life]

For the top 5 complications they can happen equally for unilateral or bilateral LL. But the fat embolisms and device malfunction are less likely for one leg at a time. Thanks you too!

[@fernandoalansalasmiranda6612]

how much cost the monolateral external fixator for femurs?

[@Cyborg4Life]

It will depend on who you go to but at least $30k

[@fernandoalansalasmiranda6612]

@@Cyborg4Life Thanks

[@cool-ml4cw]

I have a weird question, how I'm supposed to tell my kid the reason why he can't reach his potential height, cause the surgery doesn't change genetics 😂

[@mikewazowski8457]

that’s why i don’t want a son i’ll feel bad

[@FiendlyLunatic]

tell him to take the L haha XD nah Id wait till he/shes about 14 before telling them, I think thats an age where theyd still grow but be old enough not to make fun of ya :) that might be a thing doe haha XD

[@ZuZu66667]

Marry a tall person

[@GPTKiranmahajan]

how many inch increase height

[@Jack-qn9uv]

how common is the ballerina syndrome ?

[@Cyborg4Life]

The initial/temporary amount is very common in tibial lengtheners but is usually reversible without surgical intervention with stopping lengthening and aggressive stretching and of course wearing the night brace which is huge!

[@alfredotanaka1827]

Hi Victor. It’s been two months since my surgery on the femurs but I still can’t bend my knees past 90 degrees. The limb lengthening team tells me it’s normal. Is it? Thanks for the informative content as always.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmm yeah that's not good. Did you have your IT band released

[@SkullPrism]

I'm a transguy, 5'8", and I've been thinking about this a lot. My concern is that I'm already having a lot of transition related surgeries done, not to mention possible complications, and that my hands and feet will still be the same size after surgery, so idk if it's worth it?

[@arkham_miami]

5’8 is basically average height for a guy So youre lucky man

[@FiendlyLunatic]

taller than me, so your at least not short ^^ but thats up to you, I certainly wana do tis some day

[@playcostz1407]

@@arkham_miami No its not 😂

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

Why is ll surgery much cheaper outside the us than the us

[@Cyborg4Life]

I think for the same reason as other things that are cheaper elsewhere than US but also probably due to the high hospital costs so the mark-up is high for surgeon to be profitable

[@23evulp8]

The US medical market is a free market so surgeons can charge whatever they want. Especially for cosmetics .

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@23evulp8 unfortunately this is true. But new developments in technology and more surgeons entering the field may affect price favorably. We'll see...

[@SA-Aries]

Victor this surgery still scares me even after precise2 .

[@Cyborg4Life]

It should bc it’s a serious process that needs full attention

[@aaccount9486]

Can ll surgeons fix bunions

[@Cyborg4Life]

Many are deformity correction specialists in addition to LL and could fix bunions especially those well versed in the foot. Dr siddiqui and Standard at Sinai or Dr. Lamm at Paley’s does it I believe

[@GPTKiranmahajan]

any joint pain after 60 age

[@Cyborg4Life]

I think everyone will have “some” joint pain at that age but I think you mean from LL and I’m not sure we’ll have to wait and see…

[@GPTKiranmahajan]

@@Cyborg4Life sir i am male my height 5 feet 1 inch can go for surgery

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@GPTKiranmahajan once you meet with the surgeon they'll be able to determine if you can or not. If you're healthy there's a good chance everything will work out

[@GPTKiranmahajan]

@@Cyborg4Life sir people say is very painful after 60 age

[@rgonzales1082]

Too many risks to this. The cons seem to outweigh the pros.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Fair enough. Yeah you'd have to make peace with the potential risks and compare to benefits

[@leofloppa]

How common are these complications?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Don't have an exact statistic as I just tallied them up based on how frequently I hear about a particular complication (some patients had more than one). The surgeons should probably have more statistical data as they can officially diagnose etc.

[@noah_ayyubi]

@@Cyborg4Life terrifying

[@23evulp8]

@@noah_ayyubi every surgery has had complications. Even the most basic ones someone has died b4.

[@kareemnooreldeen3341]

First

[@shrikantkumar8112]

Have you married bro

[@Cyborg4Life]

No not yet

[@shrikantkumar8112]

@@Cyborg4Life oh have you done leg lenthening surgery

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@shrikantkumar8112 yes

[@shrikantkumar8112]

@@Cyborg4Life at what age have you done this surgery bro