Most DEVIOUS TRAP vs 1. e4

[@Gingnose]

Jonathan Schrantz is amazing! at finding these tricky lines and informing us, only the problem is that the opponent has same video in their recommendation 😅

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

yeah, but not EVERYONE watches youtube chess videos, and positional players hate gambits so much, they aren't gonna watch these like us tacticians do. Besides, play on a really BIG site like LiChess, FICS or ICS, and you're playing the whole planet which doesn't speak english. If your opponents learn refutations, then you have homework to do stepping your game up. I got into a HEATED argument with a GM parrot who hates on my "Zeller Ice Queen" theory ranting it's "unsound" despite having a 70% or better win rate O.T.B.! Theoretically unsound? SURE, but gambiteers ACCEPT RISK! Pawns don't matter, winning does. I love sacking my bishops on f7/f3 to destroy castling rights and get initiative and will sack a minor piece for two castle pawns (especially against fianchettos... oh I hate fianchettos and pawns in general) and call them can opener attacks. I'm unable to understand positional concepts at all, but can visualize tactics. This is a tactical goldmine. O.K. I'll suffer n% of the time against well prepared & positionally wise opponents, but grabbing 1800 scalps in under 20 moves is the reason I play.

[@Gingnose]

@@justanotheryoutubechannel3102 yes, you're totally right! Gambits can be work to bring more tactical opportunities and it is also good to train to spot them. More you know the lines you get more resourceful and able to apply in other scenes. Theoretical evaluation doesn't matter much in this context bc you are fighting against mortals! It was kinda joke because my opponent somehow knows the refutation lot of the times I play gambits 😅

[@DrJens-pn5qk]

What about learning to play proper chess instead of memorizing rather trivial traps?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

@@DrJens-pn5qk not everyone can wrap their heads around positional cponcepts that's why. If I can't VISUALIZE, I can't grasp it. I tried and failed to learn a simple PAWN ENDING from FOUR BOOKS! I'm a WORLD CLASS INTJ problem solver with 150+ IQ, but positional concepts are voodoo mumbo jumbo nonsense with no visible UNDERLYING FORM. I get all MY points ATTACKING.

[@DrJens-pn5qk]

@Just Another KZbin Channel There is nothing wrong with attacking, but there is a difference between a justified attack and a cheap trap. I have to admit in times when top players play 1. h4 and 1. ... a5 and computers tell you the best moves to ask for understanding and beauty is an outdated concept.

[@Nolord_]

Actually 6. a3 is not completly a refutation, there is a crazy stockfish line where the queen gets trapped and white still has to be careful and not to greedy. I think it goes like 6. a3 Na6 7. d5 Nc5 8. Qb5 e6 9. dxc6 b6 and then a6 is unstoppable. The true refutation is 5. a3.

[@jackweslycamacho8982]

but 5. a3 is definitely a refutation

[@Nolord_]

@@jackweslycamacho8982 as I said.

[@prysrek8858]

but 5. a3 is a refutation

[@Nolord_]

@@prysrek8858 As I said, again

[@erichfromm7400]

@@prysrek8858 5.a3 is a refutation.

[@WoolyCow]

jonathon: "the most likely move is 3.d4" me: laughs in 1500 world where everybody without exception plays 3.nc3...

[@PattyManatty]

At 1100 I'm greedy and play 3.c4

[@francescocavicchi5763]

Indeed

[@fillfreakin2245]

He actually says to d5 in the video. But you're right, I can't think why anyone would play that.

[@JulienPotier17]

It is a nice video but almost never happens. Chances of someone playing c4 followed by d4 for white is barely 17% . I've tried this opening 20 times now. Only managed to play a variant of it twice. One queen taken, one checkmate. It can be tricky to play if they don't follow this game plan

[@pfsloan2597]

"People don't want to make Ben Feingold mad." Classic.

[@alfredMonty]

That trap is nuts. Jonathan, you deserve much more than 50K subscribers.

[@BigJ11617]

Great trap, Jonathan! What I appreciate most is that you pointed out how it fails. Unlike other KZbinrs, you didn't give people the false impression that it was a totally OK opening. That's sad as if you could come out even, then it would be a perfect (no risk) opening trap! I just hit your Subscribe button!

[@douglaslegvold9215]

I won a tournament, u 1800, with this line, circa 1988... Plant City open, Florida.

[@paranormal17]

Gosh darn it Schrantz the Kiel was my secret line in the Scandi, stop giving away my prep. Don't tell me, you're making an Ulvestead video next.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

LiChess calls this the *Kiel Variation* ... as in *"I Kiel you dead!"* (?)

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

*O.M.G.J.S. You did it again!* THIS is my absolute FAVORITE chess video EVER now! I waste a lot of time TRYING to study the Rousseau gambit and got a lot of nowhere because the random way Chess Tempo makes you study kept confusing me with move orders. I've been wanting to drop the Scandinavian because my games aren't as explosive as my king's gambits and sometimes other 1.e4 games even though I score a respectable 49:47 in it. It just feels worse because I DESPISE 2.e5, which I'm actually 53% winning or the more positional lines like 3.d4. I've been wanting to drop the scandinavian, but it appears that's what's helping me keep my rating and I'm seeing that I'm actually playing book lines more than I thought. I'm also doing better than I thought against 3.d4 with 63% wins with BORING 3...Nxd5 and have 3 out of 4 wins with 3...Bg4 and 2 out of 3 with 3...Qxd5 which I don't like playing after dropping the 2...Qxd5 line with its "go ahead, chase my queen" waste of tempi, but am 50:50 with 3...c6 trying to get an old school Scandinavian Gambit happening. I'm loving this video because it's a much easier way to spice up my current repertoire without studying a ton of Rousseau, Luccini (THANKS FOR THOSE VIDEOS!), Calabrese & Schliemann/Jaenisch + Steinitz etc. to start playing 1...e5. This is a vicious quick fix that'll let me get my gambit on like I used to with the Scandinavian Gambit and don't feel like I really am in the Icelandic, which I've been playing wrong anyways. I think I can get a quick book rolling with this and start playing it TODAY. That's what I need to quit hating the Marshall Scandinavian... a line I can get my miniatures on with. It's super ugly, but opponents just won't see it coming. AWESOME! I'll watch YOUR videos (and the other high level gambiteers' ones) before EVER buying another positional leaning grandmaster book ever again. Where were you 20 years ago when I quit playing because I couldn't get a gambit repertoire?! I don't usually subscribe to channels, but you're subbed now! Keep up the good work! You are a gambit god! LOL UGH! What about 4.Nf3?... the other half of one's games?

[@nicolasgoossens]

Scandinavian Defense: Goossens Variation ™ Always a pleasure playing this, and thanks for the shout-out 🙏💯

[@Hawidaku]

Get out of here troll

[@GenAnxiety]

Jonathan...your Nakhmanson Gambit Chessable course is one of my favorites and the one gambit I have the most fun with even though I'm still blundering up a storm when I get it. I love these trap videos that you're sharing...would you consider putting a chessable course together with this content?

[@DavidEmerling79]

I put the position after 11.Bd2 (13:42) into Stockfish and I was very surprised with its recommendation. 11...Rxd2+ (your recommendation) was actually the *second* best move - but certainly *still* winning. Stockfish gives black a -6.50 advantage after 11...Rxd2+. Stockfish's recommendation was actually 11...g6 (-7.80). Leela, on the other hand, strongly recommends 11...Rxd2+. 11...g6 isn't even one of the top three moves according to Leela. I think Stockfish often values efficiency over practicality. Voltaire would say this about Stockfish, "It often makes the perfect the enemy of the good." I'm sure 11...g6 wins - and it might even win a bit quicker, provided all the optimal moves are subsequently played. Humans cannot always find those moves, many of which are very counterintuitive. Personally, I'm sticking with your recommendation because it's so much easier to play and *seems* to be more forcing. Here's the computer line Stockfish gives: 11.Bd2 g6, 12.Nf3 Bg4, 13.Nc4 Bxf3+, 14.gxf3 Qxf3+, 15.Ke1 Qe4+ and so on. Is it possible that Stockfish is stronger but Leela is more practical?

[@luciusthomas4017]

Love your content and style of teaching. I don’t even know you, but you are my mentor. Thank you so much for making me love chess even more.

[@tfwthewhen]

how many 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 nf6 videos has this man made

[@tabby7189]

Can't resist trying this.

[@stolensoul2355]

Over ten years ago, i play the youth-championship of our "state" (Not in USA). There i was preparing this line with the black pieces. After White played c4, i was acting a little bit (this was the plan). 20 minutes i was acting thinking, like that i forget the theory, and plays then ...Nb4. Immediatly, after i played this move i shout:" f*ck!", And walk from the board. I came back, he still was thinking. I go with my fingers to the square a4 and took an imaginary hair from the board xD. He still was thinking (about one hour i think and plays Qa4 and take then on b5. I won that game, and was second in the championship. After that i play this sometimes, but the whole problem is after ...Nb4, a3! After that move, you will be happy to take a draw.

[@zzajbird598]

exactly....the problem with these traps is that you have to get that very specific position....a cautious player will play a3. A player that knows you will play Nf3 in the third move....

[@GrabnarMyers]

Dang I saw a6 in the beginning and was hoping there would be a refutation

[@Jaylooker]

I think 5. a3 instead of Qa4+ is slightly better for white because black has coordination issue between their knights. Also note 6. Qxd4 in response fails to axb4.

[@elephantheart9988]

Man I've got a cold right now. This is what I need, thanks!

[@joshwantstotravel9516]

me too:) best wishes!

[@SLKCHESS]

Nice trap

[@LuisFernando-tm1uc]

This is a nice opening, but I would never play 3...Nxd5 because my heart still belongs to the Kadas Gambit 😁

[@chessloversonly]

Haha - love how you find all these crazy gambitty sidelines!! Now, to try it and win lol

[@fillfreakin2245]

Good luck finding someone who does that 3rd move for white though. Obviously some people do it for it to appear in the database, but I question what kind of ranking they'd have.

[@HighlyCruciferous]

@Fill Freakin What do you mean ? 3 d4 is the main and most common move

[@josefkotras83]

Hello its nice but you don't cover when that e4xe5 will push forvard

[@dmaster20ify]

I saw this trap already gj chess channell. But it is good to see a grand master recommend it.

[@bak140]

That's why I play caro-can defence and never calculate this crazy variants

[@MusicPlaylistsChannel]

As someone who has experimented with 2. nf6, I actually discovered this trap on my own, but a3 has discouraged me from going into it

[@ChristianSoschner]

Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing.

[@elephantheart9988]

The Scandinavian is always a sharp game. What a trap.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

I haven't found it so as everyone steers the scandinavian gambit into pavnovs which I score very badly in nowadays and haven't properly learned the Icelandic or Portugese, but score O.K. faking the former. If there was more *Marshall Scandinavian for the Kamikaze* theory, I'd drop my dream of learning the Rousseau, Luccini, Calabrese, Jaenisch/Scliemann, Steinitz etc. wall of aggressive theory I want to play. I do great against d4, but don't have fun letting my inner klingon out.

[@elephantheart9988]

@@justanotheryoutubechannel3102 I typically play the Blackburne-Kloosterboer Scandi, with 2. c6

[@DanielSantos-lb3mw]

what if after black's Nb4, white doesn't play Qa4?

[@alexmagor7538]

Best thumbnail face ever

[@jacksonville1821]

Subscribed 👌👍👍👍 amazing work thank you

[@ramilparedes9930]

Very informative

[@douglaslegvold9215]

I also tried this line against Miles Ardaman. He played a3

[@okamisansempai557]

Yeah, and black could go with Qd1 check the king and white can't take must move aside...really amaizing!!

[@rizka7945]

I've been fooled by this twice online over time, but there won't be a third time!

[@HighlyCruciferous]

The Kiel Variation, cool trap and indeed unfortunate that 6 a3 is such a cold shower (although Black can still fight on with 6...Na6). Btw, it's no longer possible to challenge you on lichess. Is this by design or just a glitch ?

[@pramodm1813]

Great stuff

[@shtinkyboy8674]

Amazing video, time to lose some blitz games with it

[@ziggypi4813]

i already subscribed :)...great walk through...as a 1400 i think i must try this :)

[@ryans8122]

I've tried this but instead of queen a4 all three times my opponent played nf3 early and I was lost

[@pullupterraine199]

My favorite trap line that you just gave away. 😞 Nevertheless, I played it against a 2250-rated, and won. Then I played it against a 2320, and lost, because played a3 instead of Q4+, which is game over for black. 🙂

[@teverettb]

Discovered this after seeing Bronstein play this way in an Alekhine…

[@herrschnupke4044]

All nice, but white plays 5.a3! instead of 5.Qa4+ and black is just worse!

[@kopazwashere]

A3 is so damn natural to play too

[@manfredbley1908]

Funny! But the problem is of course: 4....Nb4? is a mistake, 5. a3 and white is much much better.

[@elperro3683]

This trap really hinges on White moving the king to d1. The trap fails if white moves the king to d2.

[@jaybingham3711]

Since I’m already subscribed…I busted something else. 🤫

[@thebieniekmichal]

Crazy a3 move :)

[@fzelt]

i’m a chess beginner so i was like wtf😭😭

[@hypoautonomic]

you have to watch Jonathan because in no time someone will do these traps to you on lichess

[@ParisDorn159]

I mean I avoid this easily because I delay c4 until I've already castled. Seems impractical

[@gbravy]

I did this in 3 games. 1..d4 and after pawn takes, they brought out nf6. Sad.

[@gbravy]

And then I beat someone 350 points higher with a modified version!

[@friscoliv]

Not sure about this opening. At about 450 why doesnt the queen just take the bishop, check the king then take the rook? i dont think its a good opening.

[@classicalmusic1337]

5:23 black king should be white king

[@hambelelenikandjabanga861]

Everybody go to the time 8:41 if the opponent moves the Pon to c2 it shall be checate sorry.

[@Shadie54]

SCANDINAVIAN ICELANDING GAMBIT ❤ with rare 2nd pawn sacrifice should be NEXT! It is crazy sharp and with great winrate for black. Great weapon for bullet or blitz. Try to play with white - one inaccurate move and you are done. 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4. cxe6 Bc5 (or Nf6) 5.exf7+ Kxf7 gambiting another pawn !!! Can’t wait for Jonathan Schrantz diving into this 🤗

[@JohnKuhles1966]

Most DEVIOUS TRAP has no name yet?

[@Dracoon34567]

80% of my opponents play 5.a3

[@additionaddict5524]

This is was so good until it was ruined at the end

[@Nolord_]

Don't share my favorite trap !

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

too late! I'm playing it... TODAY!

[@stevenorth1564]

A3 is best obviously. Qa4 obviously silly because nC6 just makes the queen bad. Check out where the knight ends up after a3. Spoiler alert: a horrible knight sidelined

[@michaelcole8703]

Boss chess

[@fillfreakin2245]

Kind of neat, but really who does pawn d4 (not d5 as Jonathan mistakenly says) on the 3rd move for white?

[@jackweslycamacho8982]

NOO WAYYYYY I discovered this years ago and was literally thinking of creating a youtube channel just to explore this opening, but also didn't want this trap to be known by the general public.

[@jonathan.freiberger3879]

Jonathan you look very nice I like your sweater.

[@grim_blazer9120]

Day 36 of asking for a video on my funny English lines

[@andrewelledge2814]

Who else found the winning move?

[@ironfur2000]

New soyjack just dropped

[@Anonymous-wb6yj]

Are you Maltese?

[@michaelkrailo5725]

Well they don't call it a gambit for nothing now, do they. Let's hope they don't play a3 or at least can't let go of it if they do (super glue trick).

[@nbi4220]

Sorry to rain on the parade, but 5. a3 just renders all of this moot. This isn't a revelation, 5. a3 has been a known antidote for a long time. Just spend a few minutes checking your databases. By what criteria does black not have a huge disadvantage after 5. a3?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

but it only works when people LEARN IT! You're speaking THEORETICAL like a good GM parrot. I'll take as many 5.a3 beatdowns as I gotta to MOSTLY play the aggressive tactical games I've been starved for in mostly boring and positional scandinavians I've wanted to flee until today. I started hating it when white started playing 2.e5 in the late 90s (eventually leading to my quitting chess because of that pawnish straightjacket and anti-tactical stonewalls) and hate nowadays because everyone pavnovs the scandinavian gambit and I haven't properly learned the icelandic, but do OK with ...e7. THIS is what I need to spice my scandinavians up. I don't care how "unsound it is", I care about TACTICAL GAMES that end before move #30. I'll get a bunch of those with this. Punish me for it OTB... I'll punish the next half dozen players who don't know better yet after that.

[@herrschnupke4044]

Spot on man! I wrote this above "All nice, but white plays 5.a3! instead of 5.Qa4+ and black is just worse!"

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

@@herrschnupke4044 yeah, and 5.a3 is THE "main line" so the 87% stat is ACTUALLY 50% wins to 47% losses, when 5.a3 is included, which isn't shabby, but the Portugese scores 52% wins to 43% losses after 3.Bg4 and I've been scoring 65% wins winging it in 16 ...Nxd5 (63%), 50:50 in 6 ...c6 games, 75% in 4 Portugese variations, 67% in 3 ...Qxd5s and 1 win with ...e6. I imagine I'd have a losing record big time in 5.a3 games as I don't do position, but the Kiel would make a nice surprise weapon, or a DECENT points boost if one were to fully study the 5.a3 line for improvements. LiChess is an AWESOME resource for rolling your own theory if you just use the amateur's database (especially filtering 2000+ out (you have to be logged out to do that for some crazy reason). It's how you find amateur traps like this line, and lets you build "out of book" theory, especially in gambit lines that GMs don't cover well. I REALLY need to learn the portugese & icelandic. I want to drop the scandinavian for 1...e5, but do OK with the marshall without any booking up since around 2005.

[@nbi4220]

@@herrschnupke4044 Exactly. The main problem with unsound lines like the one given by Jonathan is not that there is a single variation that refutes the line, but that there are good intuitive alternatives which an unprepared opponent could easily find by accident. Just consider how the game might go after 5. a3 - plausible white moves that yield and maintain a solid plus are not hard to find - anyone 1800+ should be able to navigate this successfully.

[@thefootballlibrary737]

Wasted 15 minutes just to find out that it was a busted trick

[@-Gorbi-]

I appreciate the content, but the open-mouth facial expressions in thumbnails trend on YT is getting old fast

[@EclipsedMemories]

You have nice material, you are great player and you have the most annoying movies miniatures.

[@GloriousCoconut]

Why such a goody thumbnail though?

[@nikiyen6]

I have tried this several times. No one ever plays 3.d4. Boo.

[@anawilliams1332]

Then you must be low rated

[@keithbaker5293]

Disgusting lol. Love this one

[@462rob]

Terrible video. It assumes about 7 things happening, NONE of which are moves I would have made as white OR black. One different move and the whole plan is ruined.

[@King1Z7]

Situations like this normally lead to other openings or to position in favor of someone. This video is meant to focus on this trap, not on every possible game so your comment is kinda pointless...

[@462rob]

@@King1Z7 I have watched a TON of opening trap videos. The grand majority of them show positions and moves that I have seen regularly with 1...maybe 2 or 3 variations. So I know the difference. This video blows.