NOTE: I put the Front Treal Spindle Carriers on the wrong way. I had them on the right sides, but the logo should be facing out. They put their steering stop on the opposite side that LOSI used which is what I was using as a reference since they don't have instructions on how to do this. So Right goes on the Passenger side of the vehicle with the logo facing the front/outside of the axle where the Treal logo is. Why did you change the steering stop Treal? Why Treal? Why? People without instructions are going to do what I did and look at how their last ones came off and that steering stop would be the most logical reference point. Thanks to mavrick0pm for pointing this out.
@matttapscott48 Жыл бұрын
Where do you get all your tools to work on these small hex’s and screws?
@CCxRC Жыл бұрын
@@matttapscott48 at my local hobby shop. Most can be bought on Amain or Amazon in an RC hex driver set.
@thejeepinrealtor57422 жыл бұрын
I guess it’s time. Tearing it apart now to install Treal axles front and rear. Tips and tricks appreciated!
@chaguito69 Жыл бұрын
Brother you have no idea how much I appreciate this, i just got my son and my self both trucks and my son ended up breaking his front axle, I just ordered both front axles but had no idea, I’ve seen a couple of videos but nothing detailed as yours, if you have any rear steering upgrade video fully detailed as this one please let me know. Once again thanks a lot🤜🏼🤛🏼
@CCxRC Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@kevinbreaker26833 жыл бұрын
I think they will hold up hold up better than the plastic in all temperatures👌👍 Aluminum can break But I'm giving the big thumbs up👍🚜
@PatsRC3 жыл бұрын
They look epic mate 👍
@zsevenz11008 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video 🎉 im going to go with the blue color ✌️
@jknewb62763 жыл бұрын
Dang she just got THICK!! 😎🤘 sweet axle holder there too!
@mavrick0pm3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which way is 100% correct on the c-hub. I thought the same as you at first with the steering stops in the same location as the plastic ones but then noticed that the 5 degrees that are suppose to be on the Treal axles wasn't there. So when I looked on their website the pictures show them with the steering stops facing forward and all the Treal logos on the same side. When I built mine that way you can see the 5 degrees that comes with the axles.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
You are right. I looked at the website and they put the stops on the front. Why Treal? Why? That was my reference point as they didn't supply any directions. I guess I'll be flipping them...though it handled well this way.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
Is it toe in or out
@mavrick0pm3 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC It's 5 degrees of castor that Treal adds to their c-hubs.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
@@mavrick0pm Ok. Sorry. I thought it was a toe in. I'll have to go back and set mine up properly
@andrewrichey73743 жыл бұрын
Wow those are sweet Tony, yeah I’m sure they’ll hold up appreciate you sharing
@rcsmith59093 жыл бұрын
How much dose LMT cost? You don't shoe goo your bodies at all ?. I just repaired a pretty much destroyed x-maxx body with the shoe goo and drywall tape. Very very impressed. And its cheap. A little time consuming. 👍 Good vid
@bizkithead6692 жыл бұрын
$649. With two spektrum batts, spektrum charger. $1002 from Tower Hobbies.
@ysuprintmaking58663 жыл бұрын
They look great and should hold up to tons of punishment. I think the stock housings should cost half of what they sell for $20-25. It seems as if the outer housing (Large front piece of each) needs to be produced using a more durable/flexible composite that could hold up to colder temps (in the 50 degree and up range). Like CCxRC Tony said, there were no issues until the weather dropped in temp. I hope Losi considers using a different plastic even if it is offered as an upgrade to stock. The Treal units quality and machining/material certainly equals the price, but for many it is not a financially capable option. Braces I guess will suit most...or RPM to the rescue?!
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
I think they need to make the plastic less pieces. The problem is it flexes too much. I'd go solid pieces like the treal but in plastic....or like the Axial axles. There's just too many pieces and then screws to hold them all together.
@Sappy65173 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC totally agree tony i just broke my lmt today right down the center of that seam like yours did
@thejeepinrealtor57422 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC they wouldn’t have to go full on metal everything like a beefed up EXB or something, but some metal in a few strategic areas would have been immensely helpful. Not crazy about adding weight to my truck!
@andrewrichey73743 жыл бұрын
Yeah well worth it, I went with the silver they look so awesome
@darren808 Жыл бұрын
Hey did u have hard time removing the drive shaft? I stripped the grub scew cause its so tight. Any adivise?
@ed0c Жыл бұрын
i am trying to figure out what truck i should buy my kid SMT/LMT? i have been looking at the scx24 scale monster trucks too. he is obsessed with monster jam, has like 10 toy grade RC , 1000 1\64 scale diecast, and 40 1\24 scale diecast, not to mention all the micro series lol. i am going to slow the hobby grade down a little with a pinion and motor downgrade but i want to get him something LEGIT. he loves my scx10v3, trx4, bigrock, limitless, etc but i dont want him to break those lol.
@timvanasen67113 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony & Gandolf cool video very informative, those axels look much more durable than the plastic braces if that day comes when my stock axles break $672 for 4 axles as I have both rtr Diggers not trippin tho keepin them stock as long as possible & OR isnt as cold as VA, keep up the awesome footage see ya in the dirt 😎👊
@RapidRC7313 жыл бұрын
First great video tony!!!
@bobaque703 жыл бұрын
Nice review of Treal axles Tony
@ShenRC3 жыл бұрын
😁👍Looks good! 😜 Now go break it!
@bizkithead6692 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those hex tips? I could chuck them right in my garbage skil driver.
@mickd81883 жыл бұрын
Cool looking axles.. should do the trick. Pronoob Rc put out a video fitting the screw-in traxxas control arm pins to replace the king pins that back out. Check it out if you haven't seen or heard about this mod... was super easy. Cheers mate👍
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
I saw that trick on Facebook. Very easy solution. Maybe losi will just make one that is the right size
@quentinturnage7252 Жыл бұрын
What size is the LMT axle shaft? I purchased a set off Traxxas 12mm aluminum wheel hexs and was wondering if the center hole is big enough for the threaded part of the axle shaft. Would I need to purchase traxxas part# tra6869 which has a bigger hole in center for beefier axles.
@kevinbreaker26833 жыл бұрын
Super slick awesome Truck👍👍👍🇺🇲
@choke6663 жыл бұрын
I have the Vitavon axles. They both look awesome tho!!!
@BlvlWmpower3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I know you were on a mission to fix this.
@TABRO2843 жыл бұрын
Looks nice. Who makes the axle stands?
@danielkays9875 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the differential housing stand you used?
@RA-bw2wp3 жыл бұрын
Are the stock ones that weak? The two new ones you put on cost 60% of the truck new.
@blackops89963 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jamsrcracing96193 жыл бұрын
Have you or anyone you know changed out the gearbox housing. Just received my Treal housing and not exactly sure where to start.
@ragnarok50563 жыл бұрын
Very cool, btw right side is the “passenger” side on a vehicle, drivers side is left on that particular truck
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
Right. That's what I said. It would be on the driver's right hand side. I point to the left and said if you are the driver "here" then it the right would be over "here" and pointed to the right. Saying passenger side would've been easiest.
@ragnarok50563 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC ahhh oki hahaha yeap it always confusing lol, i was just worried you would put it on the wrong way, it looked like a dang fine axle set up
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
@@ragnarok5056 what I did do wrong was it was supposed to go logos out. They put their steering stops on the opposite side that Losi did. Without directions that is confusing
@ragnarok50563 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC i can imagen, im looking to get one of these trucks for my self, i bought the traxxas summit 1/10 for my son, but these dont sell in Norway unfortunately, and thypical i want the LMT the most 😂
@Triggered-RC3 жыл бұрын
My stock ones are holding up, but I've see that RC4WD has released complete axles with internals... Pricey though. You should try get a set and compare with the ones you are running now.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
After seeing what the Losi internals can handle, I wouldn't go with the RC4WD ones. I'd rather get metal casings for the LMT internals. RC4WD parts are hard to come by. I believe LMT is going to be the standard for aftermarket parts. You don't see that with the RC4WD stuff.
@Triggered-RC3 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC I have to agree. The LMT sets standards all around, except for axle casings. I bought a nice launch ramp. Gonna see how it flies. Hopefully the axle casings hold up cause all I can source here is RC4WD’s aftermarket replacements and they cost about $300 a set.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
@@Triggered-RC yikes. Do the RC4wd work with the Losi internals or you just mean you’d have to switch axles completely? I haven’t seen anything but the scale axles they made before and the ones they now make for their RC4WD monster truck
@Triggered-RC3 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC They include their internals. Here’s a taobao link to a front axel item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38644298142
@Triggered-RC3 жыл бұрын
Which I guess is the only axel. Need to either go 4 wheel steer or throw a link on the back to keep the rear straight.
@brsrc7593 жыл бұрын
Damn those are nice! Why is there so much toe on the rear axle? Or any for that matter?
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
The toe in helps the truck feel more stable. I'm wondering if it helps with the pull to the right i was feeling. These axles seemed to track straighter.
@andrewrichey73743 жыл бұрын
Passenger side just thought I’d throw that in there
@johnricci97973 жыл бұрын
For the aluminum rear end can you tell me where to get them you said New York in somewhere else If possible can you give me the address thanks I appreciate it because I cracked my rear end and a half thanks
@moe2823 жыл бұрын
Treal and their paid off Facebook posters are the absolute worst, I will never give them a single penny. Vitavon has 7075 axles coming next week, much nicer final product and is someone with morals that I can actually support.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
I have not come across any of them. I know of one person who is sponsored by them and they don't get anything but a discount on purchases. I paid full price for mine, but haven't had any dealings with Treal other than buying their SMT10 steering links. I haven't had any deals with Vitavon, but plan to wait and support Hesse Machine when his come out as he has been in the RC monster truck game for a long time and they are made in the USA. I just wanted to test these and see if the the fit was good for people who may be afraid to drop the money. I'd say they are very impressive.
@rushgush3 жыл бұрын
instead of the stress going to the axles, it might transfer to the links and break them.
@hoosier-daddy4373 жыл бұрын
Plastic Axle like 50 bucks each ,so breaking a links is cheaper then that axle .by alot.
@rushgush3 жыл бұрын
@@hoosier-daddy437 i figured that, i was just digressing.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
I've bashed it and the links hold up better than any other trucks links I"ve run. Not breaking rod ends all the time.
@rushgush3 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC well that’s good. the axles do sure look nice.
@Ryan100583 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the 5 degree toe over the 0 degree?
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
supposed to have better control.
@gmh15173 жыл бұрын
Hey man what shocks would you recommend to replace the stock? I broke one and would want to upgrade
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
I’m running stock on all of mine with no plans to upgrade them. If I did...I’d probably look at the Pro-line XT shocks
@gmh15173 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC would you then instead recommend thicker oil? I'd just like to avoid breaking it again. I appreciate your input
@BIGGBULLxxx3 жыл бұрын
Those look great... put some better shocks on it.
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
These shocks work pretty great in my opinion. Might change the oil in them, but the shocks themselves have been good
@kevinbreaker26833 жыл бұрын
Awesome axles what's the Cost$$$🇺🇲😎👍
@wanchanel3 жыл бұрын
Nice friend ✔🚙 💨💨
@isiahanderson30013 жыл бұрын
It should be awesome
@LawrenceTimme3 жыл бұрын
If the bearings are that hard to get in the are going to be impossible to get out. It's really going to suck when your $2 bearing makes you $200 axle completely useless
@PatsRC3 жыл бұрын
You could tap them out with a small screwdriver with the input gear removed 👍
@LawrenceTimme3 жыл бұрын
@@PatsRC not when the outer race comes off like they normally do when the bearing explode :P
@johngantner93143 жыл бұрын
oh should i use my tax return money to get one of these!?! Awesome little trucks
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
Depends if that is play money or not :)
@johngantner93143 жыл бұрын
Good point. Since im a home owner I better put that money in savings. I think my water heater is on its way out. Dang responsibilities
@BIGGBULLxxx3 жыл бұрын
Man those axle housing are pricey $168.00 per axle...DAG NABBIT 🤯
@CCxRC3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They are pricey, but make it soooo tough.
@BIGGBULLxxx3 жыл бұрын
@@CCxRC yes it seems so thanks for buying and posting the video 👍👍
@Smodlee3 жыл бұрын
Can't buy parts for these anywheres not even stock parts everything is sold out!! Mine is still brand new in the box I might just sell it and get something less popular so that nobody is gonna be buying up all the parts amd upgrades