Most Exhausting Opponent to Play Against (MEP) vs Recent Division 1 Player *USTA 4.5*

USTA 4.5 Tennis: Self-taught player in green shirt is 7-4 in singles competition in the USTA 4.5 / NTRP 4.5 league for 2019 and 2-0 in 2020 in Atlanta. He played USTA 4.5 league in both Atlanta and Virginia. He also reached the final of a 300 points NTRP 4.5 Championship tournament in Virginia by defeating the #1 and #3 seeds in the second and third rounds. Green shirt played in the 3.5 league in 2012, 4.0 in 2014, and 4.5 since 2015. He started playing tennis at 32 years old.
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[@Maelkes]

How much longer do you want to continue this rally? Green shirt: "Yes"

[@TennisTrollChannel]

So true : ]

[@fancynuggets]

This dude is like the Final Boss in the journey to defeat all Pushers

[@TennisTrollChannel]

This is a funny comment. In my book, he's not a pusher - counter puncher fits his style in my opinion; however, I get your point and it's funny.

[@ericliao2088]

Hahaha perfect comment 🤣

[@joshuasanders5325]

Pusher

[@seabreeze9122]

Yes right on!!

[@luisfelipemuradtavares9165]

😂😂😂

[@Omar-wc8gx]

He looks like a right handed player trying to play left handed

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Maybe I'm the one being trolled : ]

[@p4ulodi4s]

If he is right handed he is very good

[@philipphortnagl2486]

check his last shot on 10:33, he is switching to his right hand ;)

[@belajarinternet7134]

He plays with half swing. Did he use a low tension string?

[@couldyourewindplease3653]

I agree.

[@tbwatch88]

this is precisely what my nightmares look like.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Funny : ] It is a challenge to play someone like green shirt. He makes you earn every point.

[@LaoFarm]

I love playing these guys..they are tactical..

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Don Khong Islands that’s an excellent description.

[@icecreamalacarte]

This video defined a pusher for me. THAT FOREHAND no split step just amorphis to each hit. Fing WOW

[@gutzpose]

Lol

[@PureRipper]

If people who are nearly new to tennis think this guy is easy to beat, oh boy you are so wrong.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

If he was easy, I wouldn't have titled it - most exhausting. I would have titled it - easiest to beat : ] Thanks for sharing your comment.

[@SquidChipProductions]

What about those of us who are experienced in tennis and think this guy is easy to beat?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Hogman The Intruder excellent.

[@GeneralRock114]

He's not hard to be beat. You just do like the other guy was doing, open up the court and wait on your shot.

[@SquidChipProductions]

Major Price an easier way to best pushers is it force it down the middle. Deep baseline shots in the middle avoids the ugly angles pushers give you. Get into net

[@a_goblue2023]

For ones who’ve played varsity tennis, we’ve all played that kid, literally wanted to smash so many racquets especially when you lose to them

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Alex Chidester : ]

[@Stevo2427]

hahaha so true. played plenty of these guys in high school tennis and it can be rage inducing.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Stephen Donnelly so much patience is needed. I agree.

[@airsoftcarter7863]

I end up hardcore lobbing when they do this. They can’t play aggressive.

[@FakeAndTrolled]

You can take solace in the fact that guys who play like this are usually locked in at that level forever and don’t further develop their game.

[@JohnDavidDunlap]

To beat an opponent like this, you have to be better at your game than he is at his game. The problem is that he's extremely good at his game and it's hard for us to accept that we're not as good at our game as we think we are. Our egos want to believe that we're better than he is because we copy the playing style of our idols. For many of us, myself included, this is an unproductive delusion. It is the player that wins or loses and not their playing style.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

In my opinion, this is one of the better comments for this video.

[@K4R3N]

My brother was a pusher, sliced everything back. Never took risk. I was the more aggressive top spin hitter and my serve was better. He usually beat me.

[@perakojot6524]

Ever seen a pusher win a match against aggressive net player with at decent net skills? Even wondered why? By charging the net, you press a pusher that they have to make a pass or a lob. If your approach shot is at least half decent, they are gonna miss or give an easy sitter well above 50% of the time.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

mrn4s according to Essential Tennis, 75% of points won is from the opponent making a mistake.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Pera Kojot true but I consider greens counter puncher- he can pass very well but I get your point.

[@wadeyyy]

Completely insane how he gets almost every ball back while expending 1/10 the energy you do. I seriously have PTSD from playing these guys in high school and it kept me away from competitive tennis for over a decade. I can't tell you the emotional toll it took on me playing these guys after the blood sweat and tears I spent practicing my technique.

[@georgezazueta61]

I completely understand you, these type of opponents can make you go crazy emotionally bc they are very defensive and they don’t take any kind of risks so you have to make lots of shots to win a point against them and be very patient and consistent

[@jgallagher1359]

Give an indicator of exactly how bad most of you guys are at tennis. I was like you when I was younger. Grossly misunderstanding the game. Now I play an UGLIER game then this guy and would SMASH him 6-0 6-0 just from keeping it high and deep. putting it to the BH not making errors. etc

[@wadeyyy]

@@jgallagher1359 No you wouldn't

[@jgallagher1359]

@@wadeyyy Complete anihilation of both of these players. They could play as a doubles team if they wanted vs me in singles. Beyond that could teach any 3.5 to beat either of them in a week to a month at most.

[@jgallagher1359]

@@wadeyyy You don't understand tennis.

[@ajaxsf]

How can green shirt cover so much court when he literally moves like present-day Ozzy Osbourne?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

He has excellent anticipation. It's as if he has a read on me I think.

[@franklinz578]

coz the red one always returns ball to the location of green

[@derekyingzhi8009]

He pushes ball back high with little pace and that gives him ample time to recover. Also the opponent doesn't know how to hit flat ground stroke for winners.

[@anuragchandra7838]

Derek Zhi That push forehand remind you of McEnroe.

[@satjiwan]

That nature of push and defensive strokes is you don’t need much time to set up. When others would be late getting to a shot, he is there with just the little time he needs to get it back and in. Often high and deep too. I learned a lot when I tried to play every shot high and deep, even if I had a clear sitter short in the court.

[@cleanplasticchild]

When this guy read Winning Ugly, he took it way too literally.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

: ]

[@1114gabby]

lmaoooo

[@onielslowley]

He does a good job of reading the ball and the position of his opponent. If you look carefully you'll see most of the times he's cheating in the right direction. He's also pretty long wingspan wise. Unorthodox for sure, all those low junk slices would give my knees fits.

[@jgallagher1359]

Read it as a kid. Good book. The problem is 99% of the tennis world is basically beginner level. Orange shirt included. You can train people to beat them both in a month.

[@renatoyap]

If Green shirt was a year, ....... it would be 2020

[@TennisTrollChannel]

To me, he would be an exciting year. Tennis is a fun sport anytime and all the time.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@TennisTrollChannel Exciting? So the title is clickbait?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Sean O green In my opinion, green shirt is an exciting player to watch and an exhausting opponent to play against.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@TennisTrollChannel Exciting from a clinical psychologists point of view perhaps. What makes this guy tick? Is HE enjoying himself? How exactly does his brain function?

[@joaodenilli]

@@Bubbles99718 loooooooooooooooooooool rofl perfect comment

[@EssentialTennis]

YES, this is a fantastic case study in playing unconventional/frustrating opponents. I'll be using this in a case study soon, Troll! Thank you for publishing as always!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Please do! : ]

[@caiopavani5413]

I'll gladly watch!

[@kikkomanbass]

Would serve and volley be a good strategy here? I feel like with the slow pace of the return and not so oddly placement as in the rally shots it may work.

[@piersonmayhew2677]

I need to see this

[@Mickey_McD]

Looking forward to Ian's analysis!

[@idleking31]

I play a dude with a forehand slice, backhand slice/drop shots. Total junk baller... No matter how much I blast the ball he hits back with with No pace and No rhythm. It drives me to fits of madness. I always want to quit tennis after hitting against him. Lol

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Idle King they are tough to beat. In my opinion it a lot of patience, discipline, and mental toughness. It’s challenging.

[@sunny051488]

The balls you are blasting are probably topspin. Hit those flat and they will penetrate the court and your guy will have no chance.

[@phildnyc1]

Drives me crazy losing points to this... got to be better than that. It can be hard

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Sandeep Potturi good point. Not sure if I can be as consistent as green shirt by hitting flat. Flat is tough to control at times- especially when legs are getting tired. It’s a good suggestion though. May more drive and less loopy will help.

[@germanslice]

@@TennisTrollChannel The pusher's game is this. Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally, Rally. until someone makes a mistake. So how do you beat them? You got to get them out of position and you will need to have a good serve, decent groundstrokes and an overhead smash or swinging volley. If you are no good at doing these things to take the high balls out of the air and always letting the ball bounce before driving it from the baseline then you will struggle against this type of player. They will keep taking the pace off and sending up high balls.

[@dropshot118]

the lefty slicer has good passing shots and movement. His style will drive people crazy

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Yes it does - he's style requires a lot of patience. He's excellent at what he does. Good observation.

[@jgallagher1359]

he's awful Orange is just worse and totally brain dead

[@andresf1984]

Awkward technique, but plays high percentage shots and can hit lob/passing winners. Not beautiful to watch, but definitely tough to beat.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I agree - high percentage shots, good passing shots and lobs, and excellent endurance and mentally tough. Green shirt is a challenging opponent to play against.

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

at the 4.5 level this should not be tough to beat.

[@TheTamrielDrunkard]

@@johnsuttoniiijs 4.5 level players typically don't have the firepower really hit through the court so they have a hard time finishing points against these players. Short slices and drop shots can be very effective though because it forces these pusher players into a weird spot in the mid court that may not be comfortable for them.

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

@@TheTamrielDrunkard 4.5 players are supposed to be D2, D1 level collegiate players and that well rounded and yes at least one shot has to be a constant and consistent weapon to be rated a 4.5. Not by USTA though. Pull up the requirements for achieving said ratings. 4.5 s lack the power to hit through a player like this is the most laughable statement of the year. But you confirm my point if you know 4.5 players that couldn't beat this man and soundly then they're not legit 4.5 players and are weaker players that got bumped up.

[@TheTamrielDrunkard]

@@johnsuttoniiijs 4.5 is not D2/D1. Any college player will easily beat a 4.5 player on an off-day. It's common to see ex-collegiate players sandbagging at the 4.5 level tournaments, but that is definitely not the same level. Top level collegiate players are easily 5.5-6.0

[@ignacionunez612]

I just played green shirt for the second time. First time he beat me 6-2 6-2, this time he beat me 6-3 7-5. It’s an unorthodox style but really really difficult to beat. There’s a reason he’s ranked 3rd in our ATL tennis ladder.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I agree - received your challenge match proposal. I accepted : ] (I'm in orange).

[@gomasonpatriot1]

@@TennisTrollChannel post up footage of the match

[@TennisTrollChannel]

gomasonpatriot1 if opponents allow to post, I will. Stay tuned : ]

[@mitchellsewell275]

Improvement noted! A win may be on the horizon! It will feel good and earned, yes?

[@jgallagher1359]

most people, including you, are truly terrible at tennis and don't realize it. That's why what he is doing works at all at this low of a level.

[@SawyerQuinn]

I've watched him hit 3 shots so far and I'm trying not to walk over to my bag and smash all my rackets. OK.....back to the video.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

This is a funny comment : ]

[@1bcordell]

That's hilarious!

[@skinnyjon327]

hahahaha. I just quit tennis

[@thefirebeetle]

😂

[@jgallagher1359]

you must be terrible at tennis

[@gibsonguitarplayer]

Apple Watch green shirt guy: calories burned......46. Apple Watch orange shirt guy: 5,682.....alert..go to nearest medical center,

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Add a few more 0s to orange count.

[@felipebernardo3620]

Lol

[@jonathanhanna9404]

Green shirt must restring his racket once every 2 years.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I think he restrings often actually as he thousands of balls daily as he sometimes plays 6 sets a day.

[@mitchellsewell275]

@@TennisTrollChannel Jonathan implication was not stressing the equipment. I agree with you that lots of shots take their toll regardless of the stress per shot.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

J.M. Sewell understood. Gotcha.

[@jgallagher1359]

unless you're a high level college player it makes zero difference and even then not really

[@knotwilg3596]

If we disregard the fact that such unorthodoxy can have a terrible effect on your own game, this player does many things right: - he has his eyes on the ball and on his opponent - he varies the placement of his shots both laterally as in terms of depth - he recovers quite well to neutral position with respect to the opponent's location - and despite his highly unusual technique he has good control So I can imagine this is a very tough opponent to beat - it's easy to beat yourself against such a guy. Weapons you need more with such an opponent than with a regular one: smash and driving forehand, on top of a consistent deep topspin game. I don't think mimicking his game, using drop shots and passing shots, is the way to go here. Another thing you can see here is how you become slow in the recovery because of the slow pace of the shots. You need to keep up quick recovery, not for the speed that may come back but because of the odd placement.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Excellent assessment. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You make a good point. If hitting drops regularly isn't part of my game, it may not be a sound strategy for me. I'll have to learn to hit it well first before I use it consistently in a match. Do need to drive the ball more and expect more lobs for an overhead. Good point on recovery - I didn't realize I was slowing down due to the pace of ball. Need to stay on toes and keep going rather than slow down. Thank you for the suggestions.

[@chuckharris4855]

I like to go to the net against these types

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Chuck Harris that’s sound strategy. If anything, going to the net often will allow us to walk to the car without pain as we will run less : ]

[@chuckharris4855]

@@TennisTrollChannel I'm all for that lol

[@maxalaj992]

@@chuckharris4855 This kind of player are expert in lob, drop shot and passing shot they want their opponent to attack the net.. Need to be consistent in groundstrokes and create angle shot to open the court to beat this kind of player. 👍🎾👍

[@aaronwhitworth8184]

Having played green shirt multiple times, can confirm it's completely exhausting. The disparity in energy spent between the players on a humid July Atlanta afternoon really starts to impact the match. Green shirt will expose any weakness you have, mentally or physically.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Emotional weaknesses too : ]

[@aaronwhitworth8184]

Very true. Hard not to let frustration affect your game against him.

[@mauriziodenapoli873]

I think the trick to beat this "Pallettaro" ( we call this kind of player in Italy) is to make him run up and down and not left and right. Usually they don't know what to do under the net so the run back after hit a short ball. Of course this is easy on paper...that's why I always loose against them!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Excellent point. I need to use the entire court and make him run everywhere including to the net. It is tough as it's hard to hit a drop shot from behind the baseline consistently.

[@paulclutton5201]

Good comment. Short (service line) angled shots followed by deep shots to the opposite corner work very well for opponents who dislike the net and will not take advantage of the short ball. The green shirt guy had poor technique but he used what he had very well, making relatively few mistakes, hitting a few accurate in passing shots and mixing in some lobs. If you cannot simply hit him off the court then above strategy is a good one. Alternatively get to the net yourself but be mindful were you hit your approach shot. Often it was hit down the middle with medium depth to a waiting opponent. Too easy. Again, use of short angle may have helped here forcing him hit on the run, hit up to you and making lobbing tough. Also review your net position because he made quite a few successful passes at quite a slow pace.

[@IamG3X]

yeah essentially i think you'd have to slice short to make him step into the court and then hit a deep shot. Or instead of trying to hit a winner just brush the ball with good angle so they can't get to your ball but you're right it's hard to beat these kind of player.

[@gremsa]

The thing is these players are very fast. They come to the net and hit the shot but return to the baseline immediately

[@jossyDread]

Like a lot of late beginners the guy in green has developed a style based on his ability to force his opponent to make mistakes. If you're not able to generate enough speed and power to hit winners, there's only one solution: accept long rallies, keep cool, think between rallies, and make him work on his weaknesses. For example at 6.10 the guy in orange comes to the net on a forehand played high on his opponent's backhand, it gives him an easy volley to play. And the dropshots are very efficient too, not so difficult to execute on slow balls at mid court. Easy to say, I've lost so many matches against guys like him.

[@mouachixenglee4503]

He legit looks like he's playing with his non-dominant hand.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Many viewers have said the same thing. What if he was trolling and was actually playing with his non-dominant hand.

[@paradoxyt1851]

TennisTroll Channel if u look in the beginning he is actually running for a ball and hits it with his right..

[@johnferrara9667]

TennisTroll Channel my guess is he is a right handed player that suffered a career ending injury and switched to his left hand to keep playing

[@movdqa]

This guy is relaxed, in good shape, patient and very good at constructing points. Part of it is that he doesn't have to worry about tactics from the other side.

[@jgallagher1359]

"Part of it is that he doesn't have to worry about tactics from the other side." exactly. these people undestand what they're doing so little, and so arrogant while being so terrible that you can basically be a beginner level and beat them just by keeping the ball in the court and letting them run themselves into problems

[@shakeemrobinson2948]

Green shirt almost checks all the boxes. Junkballer, ball retriever, lefty, all slice - only missed moonballer to complete the set! It's like he adapted his game from racquetball or something. Glad that you started to step in on the return of serve. You did better when you used all the dimensions/angles of the court and when you took some of the air out of your shots, taking time away from your opponent. I appreciate how effective he was in his game - he just owned FH line drive. Thanks for sharing your matches as always Troll.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Shakeem Robinson thank you for the feedback and your comment. I like the check box analogy. Green shirt hits almost all the marks that most players don’t want to in an opponent : ] Thanks to green shirt for being willing to post our match on the channel. We are excited to feature his game on our channel.

[@yonexfan12]

One box he doesn't check, he stands like he is serving doubles and sits there, why the opponent hit the return of serve back to him every.....single....time,.....blows my mind with that much court left wide open

[@ChaunceyDos]

Yeah, I'm wondering if he played squash before tennis.

[@gytisk6998]

Very happy to somehow come across this channel and MEP. I remember first running across MEP (Ben) about 10 years ago when he lived in Northern Virginia area. First time we played we only ended up hitting and I thought based on this guys technique that he was only a 3.5 player. Boy how I was wrong! Since then I played MEP (Ben) dozens of times when he lived in Virginia and competed on the local tennis ladder (actatennis). I remember around 8 years ago he finished one season with something like a 42-5 record, beating almost everyone except for 5.0 players and losing once or twice to me (at that time I had been ranked as the #1 4.0 player in mid-atlantic by USTA and was bumped to 4.5). Of course vast majority of the time he would beat me just because to make the long story short even if one has good technique and power you can only generate so much power and control when someone gives you low dropshots or high-lobs for majority of the shots. This guy is a wall and his control is exceptional. Really the only way to attack Ben's game is to take advantage of his relatively weak serve and be a good net player but even then strong hitters like myself can easily commit unforced errors by hitting the ball out.

[@jgallagher1359]

You suck at tennis. The people green shirt is beating also are terrible. You're all just delusional and think they're good. Green sucks but at least he knows it.

[@cybergrail]

Thank you for posting this great footage. I found you through Essential Tennis.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Thank you for viewing. Essential Tennis is an excellent channel - learned a lot from their channel : ]

[@henningkongstein994]

Looks like the green guy loves the game 😂😂 hits 80 % of his shots like he just don’t care 😂

[@skinnyphish22]

Oh man their is so many great things about this. Green shirt never asked how to properly hit a forehand, he asked, "what's the objective of the game?" . ok. Hold my beer. He never hits unforced errors, both pockets out of his shorts at all time. No f's given whatsoever. Love it. He it so many great shots with that awkward form and spent little energy doing it.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

One of the better comments in video in my opinion. The goal of every tennis match is to win properly. Not look good.

[@jgallagher1359]

How can you possibly respect a level of tennis this low? I used to play raquetball with guys like the kid in Orange. They had good looking strokes and actually thought they were good. Would go to tournaments. As a totally non-raquetball player I'd crush them. People don't realize how bad they are at things. Don't humble themselves enough. All they do is hang around with people with similar delusions.

[@ChaunceyDos]

Both really talented players. Crazy respect for Green Shirt for accepting his fate, not getting angry, and fighting hard. I've met 2 or 3 guys like the self taught guy in my life and they're the guys nobody wants to play. I was getting stressed out watching this video.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Funny that you was feeling stressed watching video : ] Green shirt didn't lose - 3-3 in second set - it could have gone either way. We'll never know unfortunately. Green shirt game is unorthodox and it's a challenge to play against. I understand that few people do choose to avoid them; however, learning how to play against all types of players is critical as you'll never know when a player like green shirt will be your next opponent.

[@jgallagher1359]

it's bc the people they're playing are so bad at tennis

[@primerib]

This guy is the REAL tennis troll!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Yea....he’s better at it than me. For example- is he playing with his non-dominant hand? Maybe he’s trolling me by playing with his left hand instead of right. Who knows...?

[@AtobeTanhausser01]

Not gonna lie, I'm glad you didn't lose that first set lol. Green shirt can make matches physical as you say, but I think it works best because he can slow ball but move it all around the court. Notice how he barely has to move at all. He can make it physical for his opponent while doing the least amount of work on his side, because the slowed down pace allows him to literally walk to some of his opponents shots. He then tricks you into thinking you can beat him at net before coming up with consistently, decent paced shots that are easily 40-50% faster than his avg ball; it freezes the opponent. He's tough and frustrating, and as Brad Gilbert says,"winning ugly." Great patience from Orange shirt to deal with this.

[@missourimanful]

@AtobeTanhausser01 - Excellent analysis. So true.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

This is one of the best descriptions of green shirt. Well said. You think you have him beat and the he hits a passing shot from ‘nowhere.’ Never saw it coming. The you expect a passing shot in a future attempt and he throws up a gorgeous lob.

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

Great points. I think you still want to beat them at the net unless you want a 3 hour match 😃 But you need good approach shots

[@MAELOB]

However, I don’t think you were pressing his backhand enough- most of your approaches were to his forehand instead of backhand- also you should have pressed his serve more. also it looks that your are not comfortable attacking the net- you were mostly attacking because you had to but you were not really trying to get to the net on your own terms. Guys like that you have to constantly press at net- you have to be relentless - on his serve, on your serve, sneak attacks - bottom line don’t give rhythm and press but overall you did ok.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

@@MAELOB You is correct. I seemed hesitant to come to the net. Needed to commit more. A couple times I did and hit good volleys. I think when the legs wear out and I can move to net net as quick, I feel I'm in a vulnerable position having to hit a half-volley at my knees. More pressure is a good suggestion and thank you for recommending it. Maybe I should have attacked early on often rather than waiting and then getting tired.

[@MattSuddarth]

A person like green shirt recently won my division in a flex league I'm in. Slice forehand everything, no power, but somehow knows how to win. Frustrating, but props

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Matt Suddarth we can relate to players like green shirt. Hard to beat as they make us all uncomfortable and sometimes we get frustrated.

[@jerome_morrow]

There was a guy just like this in my club where I played in my high school days in the 80s. He was an ex- high level squash player, so loved to slice everything and had a huge range of dinky shots and angles, made few mistakes and was fit and fast. We laughed at his unorthodox technique, but playing him in matches was no picnic! Well done on beating green shirt! He’s a much tougher opponent than casual glance would suggest. Your good consistency helps a lot against such pushers, but you need much more pace and penetration on your approaches to press such types. Strong approach shots, decisive net play and work on your overhead. Pushers like him typically have a much weaker backhand especially when pressed for time, so will throw up lobs. Keep making him throw up backhand lobs under pressure and he’ll start to miss his fair share. It’s about making him uncomfortable, same way his game is based on making his opponents uncomfortable! For this strategy, you will need much better finishing power on your overheads. This requires working on your core conditioning and overall fitness. Be prepared for a long day at the office. Start running 5k 2-3x a week. When you can run 5k consistently in 25mins or less, you’ll find big gains in your matches at any level.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Thank you. Well technically I didn't beat green shirt and it was rained out. I guess one could say I was winning but who knows how the second would have gone. 3-3 is a tight set. In my opinion the tennis level was still high so it would have been interesting who may have won. I agree on needing pace and penetration on approach shots. It's tough to create pace sometimes - can easily go for too much and miss, but you is correct. I do need a stronger overhead. He hit some amazing lobs and when when the legs begin to burn, it's hard to get back and accelerate in to the overhead. Perhaps as you said, I need to be in better condition - no doubt. We can all improve our fitness. Leg strength and endurance is a must when playing against players like green shirt. I agree. Thank you for the suggestions and compliments.

[@CindyC71]

Wow, that's a tough one 😵 Unorthodox strokes, no unforced errors and quick/good defense! You played your game and obviously did the right thing because you were winning! Thanks for the video 😊

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Cindy C thank you. I’m still recovering...and some viewers are suggesting a rematch already : ]

[@johnwilde98]

Really enjoying your videos! Any tips for software to use to quickly edit a video down to just the action?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

John Wilde I use free version of iMovie.

[@DracMastah]

Man, I literally saved this video so I can come back to it before I play someone with this style. You came up with the right answers and with the win after all, which is hard to actually do when on court rather than just watching the match. Dropshots seemed very effective against him. Is it because of the highlights' selection or was that generally the case?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

For me, I try to surprise green shirt with a drop shot and in my opinion it was more successful. I did miss a couple drop shots in the net that I didn't show on video. My goal with the drop shot was to keep green shirt guessing. My drop shot and slice shots prepare similarly so I wanted him to not anticipate if I was going to hit it short or deep (and potentially come in).

[@TennisTrollChannel]

If you hope to not see green shirt across the net from you in your next USTA league match in July, please give the video a 👍. Also, check out Essential Tennis 4 part video series on how to play against an opponent similar to Green shirt’s style kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqOUf3-tm9-XaJo and Jeff Salzenstein with Tennis Evolution: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmitkqeFnd6GoM0 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5DTmaOZop1-hdU

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

I say we need more players like him. They help you expose weaknesses in your own game, esp in regards to strategy, tactics and mental attitude 😃

[@TennisTrollChannel]

UD Racing well said. That is an excellent point. Many of us try to avoid playing similar players when we should be embracing it. Excellent suggestion.

[@missourimanful]

@TennisTroll Channel - I agree with UD Racing. Any of us who have played tennis for a period of time is going to face players like mr green shirt, and they are actually a handful to play against. i’m glad you showed us this video and wouldn’t mind seeing another one, as we can sure learn a lot in watching the match, slowing it down on certain points to see how each of you react to the shots given, and just overall strategy. I wouldn’t mind seeing him again on one of your videos. You’re doing a great job! Keep it up. And you have one heck of a tennis game too!

[@ridinrancher9443]

I can honestly say I dislike the way this guy uses his racquet like a fly swatter😂. He is the true definition of a pusher. No real power but great control. Aggressive play is the best way to beat players like this because they seldom miss. Taking his reaction time away and catching him off balance or out position is the fastest way to beat a guy like this. Watch this video again and see where you can attack more and advance from there. 👍

[@missourimanful]

@Raphael Juniel - Excellent analysis! Those kind of players are so crafty they can lull you to sleep on the court, and all of a sudden you are playing their game.

[@krishnancom]

You got trolled by “Mr ambidextrous slow hands Luke” :) the rain was merciful. LOL

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I had no knowledge of green shirt prior to this match. I didn't complain when it rained - however, we were having a great match. Would've been nice to see how it played out.

[@PK-rf4hq]

I have a feeling green shirt embraces his role of driving opponents batshit crazy with this style of play. Like some kind of a evil tennis masochist.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I think he embraces winning : ]

[@shaydelgado]

What a frustrating game. No rhythm, no pace, strange spins & the guy in green is deceptively fast too. Doesn't move much but can return most balls - good anticipation? It's a valid style & he probably wins more matches than anyone expect

[@TennisTrollChannel]

He wins a lot of matches and he has played 4.5 tennis in two areas of the US. Can't argue one area is weak when he has had success in two locations. He does anticipate well - very well.

[@missourimanful]

@TennisTroll Channel - Thanks for the update on the player. I can see him winning more than he loses. What you said is so true. Notice how he keeps the ball deep, yet it looks like he doesn’t expend near the energy of his opponent who has more power and variety to his game. I can see how mr. green shirt can just look like an easy win, then get out there, and he deceptively and slowly carves you apart, point by point. He just doesn’t beat himself. I mean not at all. A great lesson for all of us tennis players. Thanks again got the upload. A fascinating match to watch.

[@Dosclic98FPV]

In Italy we call that kind of player: the pallettaro. That player makes you unable to dictate your rhythm and that takes you to make more mistakes trying to hit high speed balls

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Dosclic 98 I like it. Maybe a new nickname one day for green...? : ]

[@mauriziodenapoli873]

Il pallettaro!! Un incubo

[@tommyrooch4195]

We just call him a pusher

[@CritiqueT]

Great playing, you really kept your composure and I liked the variety of shots and angles you were generating as ways to poke and prod at his defense. I think you should play against him more often, it'll give you more at-bats against his style and I suspect your results will improve as you get a better read on him (and hopefully expend less energy, lol).

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I agree. I''m sure we'll play again. I learned a lot from this match. Maybe they get better - or maybe green shirt adjusts and his results get better - never know : ]

[@Mikey.Mike1971]

That's the beauty of tennis. Playing against guys like him (green shirt) gives you many valuable lessons such as shot selections and patience. Don't hate these players, love em instead.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

You is correct. We can learn a lot about games playing a variety of players. Knowing how your game works best against certain styles will give you an edge.

[@jgallagher1359]

if you're at the point where playing green teaches you those things....problems

[@KrishnenduKes]

Yes. I can see why it can be exhausting. He sends back everything! 😱😱

[@rattata30]

Thanks for the video. The guy in green just remind me, that if you love to play, it doesn't matter if you have a solid technic. Just play.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Roberto Garcia great comment.

[@andrewsmith3613]

1. Deep topspin forehand to his back hand 2. Go in to net but not close because he is going to lob it 3. Smash winner 4. Repeat

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Andrew Smith I’ll give it a try. Standing farther back makes it more difficult to defend the passing shot.

[@jgallagher1359]

No shit. this is the dumbest level of tennis I've ever seen.

[@godsgamer7494]

Woah woah woah! This is video that was featured on Essential Tennis! Congrats dude!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

It is. I can't wait for the 3rd video to come out. Thank you for watching both channels : ]

[@danielhkhk7283]

The guy in the green shirt has no technic, but a good hand and a feeling for tennis, in every club you have a player like him, I never would like to play against him.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Players like green shirt are challenging to play. Playing players like green shirt will help you improve as they are excellent at finding weaknesses to exploit as one viewer said earlier.

[@miketesmer564]

Daniel HKHK7. You are exactly right. Mr Green has talent no matter what it looks like.

[@CL-jq1xs]

@@miketesmer564 he switches between both of his hand as well..... not even sure if he is serious or he has an injury.

[@GreySox]

After watching this video, I incorporated more slice forehands in my last two matches and won them both handily. Green shirt guy is an inspiration.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

So agree - the forehand slice is still and excellent shot. There are a couple players in our channel that use a forehand slice effectively. I did it yesterday and it surprisingly worked. I agree - green is inspirational.

[@danielcrawford4134]

The Division 1 player must have been the cameraman.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Hope so.

[@emileguitar]

Green shirt guy's coach: now give me a top spin. Him: what top spin.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Funny : ]

[@moeeltahir353]

Lool I feel you brother. From my experience I think the best way to play against someone with his style is by 1) you must keep your head straight no matter how frustrating it gets 2) hit the ball as early as possible/volleys/drive forehands + no need to use much power in your strokes 3) bring the opponent to the net with short slices/drop shots and then hit an easy pass. Great content, I enjoy watching all your videos.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

moe eltahir thank you for the feedback. You is correct especially with number 1. I had to tell myself to stay focus on the next point as I felt green shirt was waiting for me to lose focus. When that happens, I’m sure he would run all over me. Being wise with your endurance and pick the correct shots to attack and try to make the opponent feel uncomfortable too. Excellent points. Thank you for sharing.

[@PURETENNISsense]

Spot on with the analysis! Had your fair share of playing against similar players?

[@moeeltahir353]

@@PURETENNISsense yea in the beggining it was torture but when you start adapting to their playstyle it becomes easier, especially mentally.

[@PURETENNISsense]

@@moeeltahir353 yes I agree. You kind of have to go to a place mentally where perseverance and patience take over in the beginning.

[@astropiazzolla]

I also concur with these points from my own experience, and would like to add a few points: It's easy to fall into the trap of playing "his style" - short swings which lead to easier balls for him to retrieve, so it's good to focus on your own swing. Especially tricky if you try to mix in shorter balls though. Telling yourself that he can't hurt you, but you can only hurt yourself is useful. Since his shots are slow, standing right into the court and taking the time away from his recovery seems to be mostly effective, at the expense of having slightly less time to make your own strokes of course. So this is same as hitting the ball as early as possible - a relaxed full swing is the best if you can manage it, as trying too hard with power and overplaying is the worst thing you can do. Lots of topspin right at their feet can also work OK. Also it's a great opportunity to figure out how to get better in the long run, as these types of players expose weaknesses in your own game really easily.

[@nike2cc]

Yep! I lost so many matches as a teenager to players like him. What I learned was that every point was going to take a while to win. Let them dictate the play patiently then come in with so high topspin shots to the corners and create a finishing shot. If you’re not in the right frame of mind nor in good shape, you can kiss that match goodbye.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I agree - must be patient and have endurance to beat green - no matter what style or strategy is employed. If players are of similar level, it is likely going to be a long match. I like your suggestions on high shots and come in. Thank you for sharing.

[@1969rebelhippie]

Great teaching tool!! Nice example of “playing your game better than your opponent plays his”.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Agree - we can all learn a lot from green and how he consistently wins.

[@senorgato70]

I played someone exactly like green shirt in high school. It actually taught me a great deal about being patient on court, as impatience was one of my biggest weaknesses. I never lost to him and never felt frustrated because I actually had fun exploring a "new side" of my game. It helped me during tournament matches, for sure.

[@jgallagher1359]

Also hopefully it showed you how bad you are at tennis. At least you won I guess but it shouldn't have been that complicated or that emotionally draining.

[@senorgato70]

@@jgallagher1359 haha. You’re an idiot for sure.

[@ChungLife]

Dang He was able to pull a cross court slice winner 😂.

[@jamesh8654]

I remember as a junior playing against a player like green shirt. I vividly recall having a John McEnroe meltdown, swearing down the GODS of tennis as he frustratingly took my balls and handed them to me on a platter.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

J H funny. It’s a challenge playing unorthodox players are are good.

[@PF9O]

Self taught produces a certain style

[@beaglesrfun5896]

TennisTroll hit through his shots with pace and follow through. He didn't slow down his stroke mechanics. He stayed aggressive off the ground. Right approach to playing the MEP.

[@MrProstaff61]

I actually like playing pushers (although this guy also has some effective counter punching shots). It’s a great time to practice S&V, volleys in general and overheads. That’s why it’s good to have a well rounded game and can modify according to your opponent.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

That's an quality suggestion to practice and get better. Playing a variety of players and working all aspects of your game will provide us with more tools to use for all types of styles we may encounter from our opponents.

[@kentlewis6604]

I had a friend that played exactly like your green shirt. He was a marathon runner with similar push shots and excellent control. He kept the ball low and slow which made it difficult and physically taxing to keep bending down so low to get under the ball and hit topspin with any power. On red clay, I couldn't beat him. I'd typically lose 4-6, 4-6 in a 3 hour marathon and I was ready to burn my rackets. But on hard courts, especially indoor hard courts where the ball moves faster off the surface, he couldn't beat me because I preferred to play serve and volley. In a typical match, I'd win 6-2, 6-2 in about 1 hr. My green guy hated the short points where he couldn't get a steady rhythm of 5- 10 shots per point. He hated being rushed and never knowing what to expect. In two years, he only took 1 set off me on hard courts. I hate to say it, but you might have been lucky that it rained. In those last few games, it appeared that you were slowing down your own shots. You will never outlast green guy by matching his speed of shot and consistency. Green guy would have won 97-95 in 3rd set (lol)

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Sometimes court surfaces matter. We see that in the pros and certain pros due better on specific surfaces than others. Not sure how green shirt would do on a faster or slower surface. I'm guessing (my opinion only) that he might prefer a slower surface as I think he wants to use his endurance as a weapon. My guess only - I could be completely wrong. I agree with your last sentence, except I wouldn't be able to play 200 games in the 3rd set. I would have cramped up and passed out long, long before that.

[@jaimeetube]

It reminds me of when I used to play tennis with my dad as a kid, and I would get frustrated when I thought I was better than him. He would casually move around the court with his unorthodox shots, putting in minimal effort, all relaxed... It made me a better person by showing, without saying a word, that you should respect any opponent ❤😊

[@jgallagher1359]

most people are really terrible at tennis and don't realize it

[@HSpartaL]

10:35 didn't want to play the backhand so badly that he just switched hands

[@MiamiDfins13]

I play for fun and I use the motto: “When the ball slows down, you speed up” to try to beat these guys

[@TennisTrollChannel]

That's a good motto. I like it.

[@marcustrujillo5543]

I love it when players can win using a different style, and this guys game is obviously very different. Yet he's had success, that's rad.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

He won another USTA 4.5 league match today. He's impressive.

[@lobomalsano]

I think the guy in green has a style that makes tennis looks boring and dull. Any kid watching him wont become a tennis fan nor feel encouraged to play this sport

[@raazzzin]

Is he self taught? His form seems very off meaning he’s more likely to hit a ceiling?

[@bjornsama9649]

You call that style? Lol.

[@franchutenis]

style?, a twat who cant play tennis

[@winningtennis4914]

A great lesson in this. Strategically Executing the first two shots of a point is THE single most important skill to develop as a singles player (or doubles player for that matter). This will only happen if it is TRAINED.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

you is spot on. I agree.

[@user-bq9jg3ol5j]

Curious about your tennis racket and string choice if you don’t mind sharing!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Orange or green?

[@user-bq9jg3ol5j]

Orange! Curious about green now too :)

[@abujabi]

This type of player really exposes gaps in a person's game. In your case, I think it's your smash and your approach shots.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

abujabi agree and thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t hit many overhead winners if any.

[@DAKESIS17]

plus the fact that 80% of the orange player shots fall very close to the service box. a foot longer and the pusher would be under a bit more pressure. Otherwise, all the rallies fall into his strike zone

[@bo5824]

Green shirt guys is one of my favorite tennis players for real tho. His style is offensive to most but he is pretty good.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Bo I agree. I rather watch green play than most pros.

[@clarenceworley2624]

Setting aside stroke technique (it is what it is) are there things green shirt could have done better from a strategic standpoint?

[@chasebethersonton5169]

He had a lot of success early with the drop shot / lob combo, and then got away from it later on. Orange was not great with the approach / net game, so not sure why he didn't bring him in more.

[@mattfoley4128]

Green Shirt should add the moonball. Especially to the backhand. Who doesn't love those 😬😬😬

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

Would be great to see a rematch and you applying some of those suggestions.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

UD Racing we’ll consider. I rather apply the suggestions in the winter : ] let’s see. I’ll be coached by the viewers.

[@drtee3]

That 34 shot rally at 8:21 really shows how good these 2 guys are

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Thank you - In my opinion, I think it shows how determined MEP is to make his opponent hit one more ball (I'm in orange).

[@joseh899]

THE DREADED PUSHER!!! Horrendous stroke mechanics, but DEFINITELY AN EFFECTIVE PLAYER WHO WILL DRIVE HIS OPPONENT TO SUBMISSION!! You held your composure and did very well against this frustrating opponent!! 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏🎾🎾🎾🎾🎾

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Thank you. I'll remember this match for a long time. Great player and great person. He doesn't have the best technique but he uses what he has and uses his strength to find ways to win.

[@paulod1974]

I would be traumatized after playing that guy. He plays ping pong in a tennis court.

[@chasebethersonton5169]

This is an honest question: Does green shirt have a particular skill set that makes him uniquely successful at this, or is this something I could be doing on my return game?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

He's super consistent and has the endurance of Super-Man. In my opinion, the key takeaway is to find what works for you. Yes - copy pros to an extent, but in the end, we are not Roger Federer. We have to find what works for us. Federer didn't copy someone else completely. He had to find what works for him.

[@stanittera]

If he can return just about everything and hopes Orange makes a mistake, that’s a valid style at 3.0 and 3.5. But he’s doing it at 4.5, so he gets an A+++

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Well said. He has an excellent record at 4.5 in 2 areas of the country.

[@pencilcheck]

He is doing volley shots from the baseline to be honest, so maybe it makes him a good doubles player? :D

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

you cannot applaud that technique at this level sorry I guess I'm just too old school.

[@athletescollective4214]

@@pencilcheck In my experience this style gives most 4.5 players fits (myself included) but when it comes to doubles it's completely different. They can't get away with floaters and they end up being terrible doubles players.

[@imlazy77]

Oh god. I played one of these kinds of players in my 4.0 league... and for an impatient aggressive player like me, to lose 1-6 2-6, is so tough to swallow

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Gotta have a lot of patience. It's tough.

[@KittiChan1]

I used to play a similar style when I started playing 4 years ago. I won my first tournament with ease though there were like 6 players only and I had to play my team mates who were also tournament newbies. At my second tournament which had like 32 or more players I went toe to toe with many experienced players who really had a lot of trouble with this style of play. One of them them also smashed his racquets. Sadly I lost to all three players but the results were pretty amazing for me who only had been holding a racquet for like six months at that point.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

that's an interesting story. Thank you for sharing. Nice to hear perspective from a player similar to green's style.

[@sol029]

I'm here from the essential tennis channel. Well done tennis troll. Toughest part of playing opponents like this is playing within yourself and controlling the points. Always approach strong you'll have plenty of short balls to choose from to attack. Once you get a few like that then you're in their head and it'll get easier as well. Saw you approach strong sometimes but also come in behind some... Well some not so convincing shots.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Welcome to TennisTroll. Essential Tennis is awesome. I agree - the approach shots that were strong did favor me (likely to win point). Some of the crosscourt approaches were not as strong and it favored my opponent. Have to be careful which ones I attack and go to net with as green has awesome passing shots and lobs.

[@alfredcen6159]

Bravo to the guy in green shirt. He’s got infectious tempo which drags the opponent into an unfamiliar territory...

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Thank you for the comment. Green shirt deserves all the credit. Self-taught and started playing tennis in his 30s and winning at the 4.5 league. That's incredible in my book.

[@missourimanful]

@TennisTroll Channel - No doubt. Massive respect for mr green shirt, but for you too! You hung in there and won that first set, and it was a great match. I do think your net game would have exposed him big time, if you went to net more, as you have a nice game.

[@SaintSuperstitious]

Watching this video literally brings up repressed memories of playing pushers in high school tennis... things I never wanted to remember...

[@TennisTrollChannel]

funny : ] reducing errors does help win matches.

[@SaintSuperstitious]

TennisTroll Channel that’s what my college coach used to say. Tennis is ultimately about who can hit the yellow ball into the big rectangle more times than the other player. We tend to over-complicate that process...

[@TennisTrollChannel]

SaintSuperstitious you had a really good coach in my opinion.

[@gutzpose]

Great video!

[@jeffhermida4788]

green shirt is a nightmare to play against. he's a good athlete and has great sense of the ball. He's like fabrice santoro. slicing and dicing mixing up the pace and make you hit more shots than normal. Have you read brad gilbert's book on playing guys like green shirt? If not, take a look and maybe it can help. Gilbert mentions having to be mentally tough, serve&volley and drawing green shirt into the net etc. but i agree, players like green shirt are the toughest to play against both physically and mentally. Im glad you got the first set. lol

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Me too! It was important to win the first set : ] I'm familiar with Brad Gilbert's book and its sound strategy. Can be difficult to implement but it's a must. Being mentally tough is probably the most important skill needed against players like green shirt. Sounds like you might have some familiarity with green shirt. Your assessment is spot on.

[@ericblachere8283]

the consistency this guy has with such awkward technique is just mind blowing. Those passing shots look so effortless 0_o The dude has skills ...

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Eric Blachère excellent points. Even though his technique isn’t great, he’s able to keep his shots in consistently.

[@mitchellsewell275]

@@TennisTrollChannel What is technique? I would suggest he has superior technique based upon his results. In other words, he is unorthodox but highly effective.

[@Lucian86]

Struggling with these guys too but I figured it out how to play them. Stay calm, get in a good rhythm and attack them every time you can. You can't play their game. You'll get frustrated and miss a lot of shots

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Must stay calm - that's #1 when players like green shirt or any opponent. Good point. Only McEnroe may have played better in frustration, but if you noticed how he played Borg, he was always calm.

[@arthurfuller1113]

I've watched him play on several occasions. I've watched him soundly beat a lot of players who "look" like they played tennis in college.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Arthur Fuller agree- he is so tactical and has so much control. it’s amazing.

[@d0min0danc1ng]

@@richardtobin601 yes sir..you are smack dab right on the point I said it b4 and i say it again..thats how pushers beat you. They take you by surprised and b4 you know it all hell breaks loose your down 5-1 So heres my suggestion. Thank god we live in the 21st century. GET YOUR DIGITAL CAMERA OUT AND RECORD YOUR NEXT OPPONENT. ANALYZE HIS PLAY STYLE. IF HE IS A SEPPOTANKER (a pusher) BE READY FOR BUMPY ROADS AHEAD.

[@MaRk-wb1if]

What grip do you use?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Not sure on green. For orange (me) I use semi-western.

[@fuckyoutube13]

This is the most exhausting video on youtube.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Best comment.

[@RFinchTennis]

That play-style can be super effective. Especially against people like me who need to work on their fitness haha

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Richard Fincher I completely agree.

[@hank7781]

You have steady, strong and well-aimed shots on both sides. On a couple points however, it looked like you could have taken a step or two and had a FH. Someone else mentioned that your recovery was slowed by the low pace of his shot. Do you think that was a factor?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I think my recovery may have been slowed cause I was getting tired : ]

[@loganderb]

The only reason he looks so bad is because his right arm died in a car reck a few years back and has yet to move since

[@wessa1621]

Anybody else think that the guy in green is going to be unbeatable by the time he gets in his 50s and 60s? Most of us will have to adjust our styles as our bodies start to age, but he already plays old-man style. He will have perfected this style for decades!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Adam Wessinger maybe he’s aiming to be #1 in the world for the 50 age group? I did play a #1 in world in 60s once and he was as fit as green.

[@discobacon5160]

This guy is a turbo-pusher from hell

[@TennisTrollChannel]

this is almost as good as the bacteria comment : ]

[@discobacon5160]

@@TennisTrollChannel honestly what’s even the point of playing this tennis? Is this even tennis? You are hitting your shots and your technique is on point but that opponent of yours needs to let go and let life happen for a change… jeez

[@TennisTrollChannel]

@@discobacon5160 to win. If Federer played this way, we wouldn’t think it was awkward. Everyone would copy.

[@info781]

I wonder, does he have racquetball/squash in his background? Thanks for making this video I encounter this type of player at 3.5 all the time, but you rarely see this type of game recorded. I will almost always lose to this type of player I do not have your skill level, you are able to come in for the short ball but are able to move back quickly to reset. This type of player has to back down against a hard hitter because it would strain his wrist.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

I do not know if he has a racquetball/squash background. However, I do see some similarities.

[@eruben2]

@@TennisTrollChannel He does not. Used to play basketball, for whatever it's worth. I can confirm that being a lefty in that game helped create some unique shots as well.

[@gregdemos9240]

I have anxiety watching this. kindof like when i watch "Office". Kudos to green. I'd be the first to admit green would crush me on the court and for many many days later.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Greg Demos The Office analogy- that’s funny : ]

[@MartinJohnZ]

I've played guys like Green Shirt, usually it's a person that's experienced in a different sport (football/soccer/athletics), and thinks to himself: "Hmm, I wonder what happens if I pick up a tennis racket." He doesn't care about how you are "supposed to hit a tennis ball", and because his primary sport is more about endurance and athleticism then being pleasing to the eye, he gives you a hard time. These guys DON'T GIVE A DAMN about how they look, they're just having fun and they're genuinely happy when they win a match. It's an important lesson to learn for all those tennis purists who spend fortunes on coaches who tell them where to put their feet and what swing path their racket should make and where their left pinky should be when they hit an inside out forehand.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Good point - green's first sport was basketball. He started tennis at 32.

[@danield.7359]

years back when I was a kid, we had an undisputed club champion. He just won the club championship every year. Then, out of the sudden we got a new member. It was a retired soccer professional around the age of 40 and quite a famous guy. He didn't know how to play really, but what he was good at was to run. He never gave up a ball. A gum wall. I saw members getting so furious that they smashed their racket on the floor destroying it. Didn't help. Finally he won the club championship.

[@KDBBM]

What equipment do you use to film these troll?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

Duct tape, selfie stick, and an old iPhone.

[@KDBBM]

TennisTroll Channel oh nice, iPhone 8?

[@TennisTrollChannel]

KDBBM I use 6, 6s, 7, and 8.

[@patticake3]

IN the 2000's, I remember playing a guy like this in San Diego, California in a USTA sanctioned tournament. During the warm-up, I said to myself, "I got this." After losing the match, my head was full of strategies on how to beat moon ballers, pushers, and unorthodox tennis players. FRUSTRATION & STRESS!

[@TennisTrollChannel]

and sore legs (at least for me).

[@J3llo3]

These are the hardest people to play

[@TennisTrollChannel]

It's a challenge. A hard challenge as you said.

[@ChaunceyDos]

Just terrible. When I was in match form, I could steamroll guys like this 1 and 1. But during the off season, wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and it was a nightmare. One I can think of was also a lefty. Something about the creative artistic lefty brain seems to lend itself to these types of clever players.

[@TennisTrollChannel]

ChaunceyDos having an off-day would be even more challenging. Luckily for me I was playing well.

[@MarcoSolidx]

Not if you find his weakness. Green shirt sucks at net so....draw in at the net