good video, the only suggestion I have is have a starting bankroll so we can see how much was actually won or lost
@gusmaschmann2 жыл бұрын
I have rolled this strat out on my practice table and on my software. It works, over, and over. Love it.
@HoHaHolla2 жыл бұрын
I really like this system! I would like to see Alex play this system with you David. One video would be a $10 game and the other would be a $25 game.
@charlesstringer53282 жыл бұрын
Been playing for 30+ years…. Have tried this type system and have had some moderate success…, it leaves some definite vulnerability as all Strategies do! Just all about the fall of the dots! Thanks for the video always looking for a new improvement in ways to limit some risks. Just a suggestion …..but put up a separate Bank roll & a screen calculator with individual roll indicators to follow and calculate….this will help people see the results and odd winners…. It’s all about those odds winners ….. my Craps friends out there!
@charleshardes2 жыл бұрын
I've been practicing this strategy for my upcoming trip to Vegas. One thing I don't understand... you hedge the $50 Don't Come bet against the 11 with the $3 bet on 11. But then you're still vulnerable to the 7. Why not also hedge the 7 with a say $12 bet on 7?
@rafaelw31712 жыл бұрын
You have to do this strategy on a late weekday or early morning ..definitely not a busy Friday or Saturday night
@mcchacho12 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would be an issue with the dealers. I see people making all kinds of crazy bets on ever roll and keeping the dealers jumping. The come bet is a self service bet so you can do that on your own.
@mikergage2 жыл бұрын
This is my absolute favorite system to play but I usually do it at bubble craps so I can manage all the bets electronically. It just feels like a lot to ask from a dealer.
@rafaelw31712 жыл бұрын
The bubble won’t let me do a no come bet or both
@andrewcarr24312 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelw3171 you cannot do a pass/no pass or come/DC bet at the same time on electronic machines. You can on a table but they look at you rather strangely. In this system you won't be betting both the come/don't or pass / no pass so not sure about your reply.
@kinglouie94762 жыл бұрын
Actually, this system is NOT asking much from the dealer. The stickman will keep track of proposition bets. The dealer only needs to worry about paying out the number that hit. Which is what he does anyhow, whether it is a place, come, don't bet. The difficulty is on the player. You just have to not forget to put your hedge bets in the middle. The sizing for the eleven or hardways is perfect; since these don't hit that often you should be willing to take a small loss. If you practice this at home I believe you will see it really isn't too complex. The only change I would make is if I can get some of my bets to take back black, I would pull my don't bet and play "with the dice" from then on, including "off" on the comeout. Don't betting in general is a hedge for choppy tables. Real money is made "with the dice ".
@miker64022 жыл бұрын
Why do people worry about the dealers liking or not like how you bet and if they have to work harder? I mean, wahhhhhhh! sorry for making you work at your job! Just imagine you are at a table playing this system by yourself or with 1 or 2 others at your end of the table and you play for an hour. Now think about the same dealers not dealing this system but for the next 3 hours they have a maxed out/full table of players. I think they are working harder during those 3 hours with a full table than dealing this system. The only legitimate complaint they should have is if in either situation nobody is tipping them for their hard work and attention to the game. So always remember to support their efforts and help them like how busy your system keeps them and reward them!
@randy52482 жыл бұрын
@@kinglouie9476 You should never pull an established don't bet. You have the advantage in your favor!
@glenthomason14282 жыл бұрын
I've seen this system before with much more hedging, yours is more stream lined, I like it.
@Dishnitup559 Жыл бұрын
This strategy along with dice setting has never let me down. I do $5/10 pass with a $75/150dc. 7 set on come out. Set dice for craps on 2nd roll hedge 11. Then set dice to point. Don’t win big, but get good comps and usually pays for my activity in LV for the evening like a show and good dinner.
@Redeyefiddler2 жыл бұрын
I know what show David’s been watching? “It will keeeeeill!”
@Dave0049 ай бұрын
Only thing I don't like about this strategy is the max odds on the 8 at the beginning. That means you have $56 working and $55 if the 7 hits. So if the 7 hits right away, you lose $1. I'd probably do a passline of 2x odds just so that if you do 7 out on the next roll you're taking something away to help with your next DC as you will eventually hit a 7 and lose it before you can place it. Just my thoughts, other than that its a good strategy, probably easier on stadium or bubble craps so the dealer isn't working as much lol
@psionl02 жыл бұрын
I tried this system without the insurance bets. No matter what strategy you are using, the centre bets are strictly for suckers - especially with the odds offered by American casinos. Results so far are not bad.
@josealarcon90242 жыл бұрын
Love this system! Always play it when in Vegas. You have to do a live roll video!
@bonwatcher Жыл бұрын
Hedging is such a good way to play craps to limit the risks. I've seen so many guys go across the board once a point is established and then the dreaded 7 wipes them out without collecting a single bet. That ain't cheap at the $25 min. tables. True story, a friend's dad went up to a table midroll at Wynn and threw down a few hundred dollar bills and then asked what's the minimum thinking it's probably $25... and it was $200 min. So he put his $300 on the come and sure enough 7, line away, pay the come. He picked up his $600 and bought us a buffet dinner. 🤣
@scotty89312 жыл бұрын
I asked around and never found a dealer who wanted to see me come...
@ThatRascalMerlin2 жыл бұрын
OH NO YOU DIDN'T! LMFBO
@wferguson052 жыл бұрын
What happens if they hit the lay point!? Do you put the DC back up!? That’s when things get really interesting. Do you just come down for the next shooter!?
@jonathanabad39172 жыл бұрын
David, Happy 2021 Christmas Eve I don’t like it for 3 big holes: The 5 & 9 is not hedgeable. And you are vulnerable to a 7 on the DC. On a $25 table you’re at risk for $250.
@jasonbourneistreadstone2 жыл бұрын
I have purple dice just like those too! I ordered 5 sets a while back from a gaming supply co.
@rafaelw31712 жыл бұрын
Best strategy for craps period but they get piss because you hold the table up slowing it down . I tried to use it in downtown Fremont
@michaelsilvey21612 жыл бұрын
Do you ever go back up on the don’t come during the roll?
@TheSvendiesel2 жыл бұрын
I had the same question! Please answer!
@jefferyperkins46682 жыл бұрын
I took 10k to 55k on an internet Practice game.I didn’t press the come wins on odds. Would have made more. Caution: the DC numbers do come up and you can go bad quickly. It’s easy to go on tilt when these DC repeaters happen. I’d welcome some advice on how to handle the down sequences.
@josephsheridan78852 жыл бұрын
Play c& E AT 8 TO 1.
@grega19722 жыл бұрын
If you suspect a Hot shooter, after 5th-6th roll, tell the dealer to come down off the DC with your bet and go with Come Bets ....cuz a hot shooter can F--k you up !!!
@EZBISME Жыл бұрын
Hedge bets have their negative EV. When you make any bet with negative EV and then hedge it with another bet with negative EV, you have a combined increased negative EV. Your hedge decrease your variance, but also reduces your expected value-you lose MORE!
@mattmoran7391 Жыл бұрын
So is this a dumb strategy u think?
@EZBISME Жыл бұрын
@@mattmoran7391 absolutely
@djsyrex Жыл бұрын
what would happen in the middle of a roll you lose your DC bet. do you put another 50 DC to replace what you lost? What about your place bets if that happens do you do anything with those if something happens?
@miker64022 жыл бұрын
Why do people worry about the dealers liking or not like how you bet and if they have to work harder? I mean, wahhhhhhh! sorry for making you work at your job! Just imagine you are at a table playing this system by yourself or with 1 or 2 others at your end of the table and you play for an hour. Now think about the same dealers not dealing this system but for the next 3 hours they have a maxed out/full table of players. I think they are working harder during those 3 hours with a full table than dealing this system. The only legitimate complaint they should have is if in either situation nobody is tipping them for their hard work and attention to the game. So always remember to support their efforts and help them like how busy your system keeps them and reward them!
@user-cm9ct7ut4e2 жыл бұрын
I was at your store yesterday, cool place
@CasinoQuest2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bmikesmellz92442 жыл бұрын
Why play the dc rather than picking numbers? Just trying to learn thanks
@kevinm87232 жыл бұрын
What do you hedge with if the DC bet goes to the 5 or 9, ie no hard way hedge?
@Football02472 жыл бұрын
If its a 9 u could hedge SOMETHING in a field roll maybe 1/5 your dont come if you're feeling like a degenerate. 2 or 12 pay double, but 5,6,7,8 lose. Whatever your odds are on the 5 6, and 8 would cover some of it.
@antoniominichiello85322 жыл бұрын
ill have to give it a try david
@Vchan820 Жыл бұрын
What would you have done if you rolled easy 4 instead of hard 4? What do you do when the hedge doesn’t hit?
@alexcadoret4268 Жыл бұрын
take all bets down and reset the DC
@dynatrol12 жыл бұрын
Look, I enjoy shooting some craps when I'm in LV...however, it should be stated that every bet on the table (other than odds) has a house advantage. You can hedge your hedges, double down, buy numbers, mix and match all the possible bets out there (I personally love a random "2-way midnight" at 30-1)...but I also recognize the math doesn't change...it's a negative expectation game...play long enough and you will lose...there's no edge to be gained...and this is why there's no such thing as professional craps players.
@waylonswaycraps2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@CasinoQuest2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!! --Mar
@CJ-ev3co Жыл бұрын
How would you hedge your bet if the DC is a 5 or 9, with no hard ways option?
@batootcat Жыл бұрын
I guess you could place money on the 5 or 9. Say you were on a 5 dollar table you would place 40 dollars on the 5 or 9 and hope you hit other numbers before hitting the seven.
@benyeager46392 жыл бұрын
I like this strategy!!. I think this would work on a cruise that I will be going on. I'm confused on paying the odds. Can you help me out?
@jonathanabad39172 жыл бұрын
David, i discovered more holes on this so called famous strategy. If you have a 4,6,8, and 10 DC, you’re hard ways won’t save you if you roll an easy before the 7! Yikes! BAD strategy!
@williammcneel88833 ай бұрын
Wow that’s impressive on any bet
@UnelectableAirwaves Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you start on the Don’t Pass Line and do the same sort of thing, just put max odds wherever the Come bet lands?
@andycowan17352 жыл бұрын
Timmy from the peanut gallery, hilarious 👏
@Yo-vv7vy2 жыл бұрын
That point 7 will burn you…And hopefully you don’t throw your DC number. I like it. I need to practice a bit more.
@gregsharma39242 жыл бұрын
Please explain the one time Yo bet?
@tedtokumine86002 жыл бұрын
all i can say is wow and thankyou
@BTLwithTony2 жыл бұрын
If you have a no 5 or 9, what do you bet to hedge?
@afiblacksails232 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a borderline stupid question but the 5% vig on a buy bet confuses my on the 10/4 when you set the point on your 10 you had bought you paid out 18/20 which would be 10% vig so you’re taking the vig off the original bet and not the winnings? Doesn’t that make it the exact same as a table that collects the vig on the bet and not the win? Just curious because I thought that the win would pay 19 on the win for the 5% vig
@robertferdinand3688 Жыл бұрын
He obviously didn’t buy the 10
@AnthonyHernandez-ly4zd2 жыл бұрын
Dave when you hit the hard four you made it sound as if you lost the hardway 4 and took the bet down but in reality I assume you would take the bet down and bank it correct? I also like this betting strategy on a bubble craps machine.
@creolecajun99882 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't bet on the come because you get no odds with those if you hit a point take down with odds and just replinish the point.
@sleong2 жыл бұрын
This guy is so full of it. He got destroyed with this strategy... doesn't even tell you how well he did at the end.
@matthewward58132 жыл бұрын
As long as you do not 7PO this strategy will not “destroy” you. Ofc unless as he said if a hot shooter starts making 4 or 5 point hits in a row you can’t get “destroyed” with this strategy. It is all about hedging and hopefully going on a long roll where two things happen… 1 your DC doesn’t get rolled and 2 you get to hit several of your other place bets preferably the ones you have pressed up the most. But he didn’t get “destroyed” he only lost one DC and he had it hedged with the hard 4. That said yeah the dice have to cooperate no matter the strategy since the casinos pay out less than what the odds are for hitting any particular number. It is how they make their money in the long run. I would flip a quarter with you all day long and let you choose heads or tails but if you win I only give you .23 cents instead of .25 since you get to pick either heads or tails…
@MrZola1234 Жыл бұрын
You should show Karrysmiths update system. He vets pass/DP and takes no pass odds on dp bet comeout roll
@jonasleal4156 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of this strategy?
@Xojzk122 жыл бұрын
More dice videos!
@dalehalpin26862 жыл бұрын
Why not just start with a large don’t pass instead?
@Jay1212a2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it really matters but it if you play this way with the flow of the game it allows you to collect when a point is hit, collect your DC and PL on a come out (where a DP would lose) and it hedges you when you 7 out. However that initial DC and PL both lose if you point 7. I personally would keep my place bets off but work my odds on the come out.
@piere2122 жыл бұрын
Instead of the $50 DC, why not just skip that step and lay the 4 and/or 10? Maybe the 1:2 payout math to hedge your money thats in play is complicated, but why risk the $50 on Big Red on the DC roll?
@kinglouie94762 жыл бұрын
Because you would have to risk $100 to win $50 (4/10), not a good idea. On the DC, with hedged eleven you just have to get past that seven on one roll, 5 to 1 in your favor. Plus, on the DC, 2, 3 & 12 will win, 4 ways out of 36. Seven hits 6 ways out of 36. This strategy is for when shooters are throwing 4 - 8 numbers then a seven. It keeps you from losing your bankroll. Point, then seven....no strategy works.
@randy52482 жыл бұрын
@@kinglouie9476 Actually, 100 to win 50 is true odds which is better than all of the other bets, especially the hedges! And 12 does not win on a DC, it's barred and is a push. So only 3 out of 36 ways to win on the DC. 😊
@awallerfamily2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@rezidentbivrip2 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing at a $5 table, you might as well skip that in the future 🤣
@eugeneray54892 жыл бұрын
Broncos Billy in cripple creek co is a 5.00 table
@sunnyscott4876 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly right. Good luck finding a $5 table anywhere!
@mfangman20242 жыл бұрын
40 secondes in... Sad trombone
@jimklemens50182 жыл бұрын
Ummmmm ... Costco sells roasted chickens for $5.
@moneyindabank2 жыл бұрын
Just martingale the hardways. Eazy money.
@ick53532 жыл бұрын
For the casino... LOL
@Snags502 жыл бұрын
You should do a call in show. I've been playing for 10 years, a lot lately online. I buy in for 1500 at 10 dollar table. I'd love to play my strategy on your show.
@mattmoran7391 Жыл бұрын
I suck at the casino. Save me! What is it lol
@glenthomason1428 Жыл бұрын
I've played this system with some success, but one or two of the dealers wined like little girls
@renocool155810 ай бұрын
This table appears to have no vig on the field
@sunnyscott4876 Жыл бұрын
Your minimum buy in is more than my budget for my entire trip. So much for your system.
@Jana-TheCraftyGambler2 жыл бұрын
Y’all may be they only place to find a $5.00 table!
@creolecajun99882 жыл бұрын
On the DC instead of heading the 11 why not hedge $ 5 on the 7
@jesus-b5w8e Жыл бұрын
CASINOS WONT LET ME PLAY CRAPS BY MYSELF LOL
@josephsheridan78852 жыл бұрын
Why do you not play any seven on come out roll.you hit it at 3 or 4 times it pays 4 to 1and why no field.or C&E WItch pays 8 to 1.
@randy52482 жыл бұрын
It pays 4 to 1,but the odds are 5 to 1. Huge HA. Same thing with field and C/E! If you eliminate all hedges you would do better in the long run.
@JayAr7092 жыл бұрын
I bailed, the moment the revealed strategy collected (a second “same bet”) as naturals accumulated on the Come-out rolls.
@markwojtulski742 жыл бұрын
Works great as long as you don't get your behind spanked
@dmimz7691 Жыл бұрын
As soon as they start these strategies wit a 5$ table I turn it off. 5$ tables haven’t existed for decades
@arlenestanton9955 Жыл бұрын
$10@8:45
@hoc3028 Жыл бұрын
I can’t see what the fuck is happening because you don’t have a bankroll tray and are paying from the same chips on the table
@drdontpassone81642 жыл бұрын
master hedger this guy. hedges everything.......... hedging is bs ..the math says so
@pollopollo35312 жыл бұрын
Not his strategy to be fair. It's the most popular strategy on KZbin by Kerry Smith
@drdontpassone81642 жыл бұрын
@@pollopollo3531 thnx
@benantonio57602 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍🙏🙏
@JayAr7092 жыл бұрын
The first two things he does is fail the Pass Line test, weakly dragging consecutive Natural wins. Need I sit through what remains of this “best” strategy? Nahh
@andyk64532 жыл бұрын
First!
@bennywilks9367 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are winging this as you go. If this strategy was everything you say you'd be out using it and not making KZbin videos.