Moszkowski - 15 Etudes de Virtuosité, Op.72 (1903) [Audio + Score]

[@polotrav3439]

Nothing goes together quite like Moszkowski and E Major.

[@bennyksmusicalworld]

YES!!! His piano concerto has been my favourite concerto for quite some time. E major’s also my favourite key (Beethoven’s Op. 14-1 and 109, Chopin’s Scherzo Op. 54, Hans Rott’s Symphony No. 1…)

[@kliberalsing]

You're right about that. Learning nos. 2, 6, 11 & 12 at the moment. Very grateful and lucky to have found such cheerful and playable concert études. They are also super idiomatic. Nos. 1 and 13 are nice listening to, but both take lots of time to learn....at least, for me. One should have learned and performed them as a child - it would have been "the bomb", as the Americans say

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

@@bennyksmusicalworld Rott’s story is so sad isn’t it? Mahler called him the founder of the new symphony and Bruckner thought he was a genius, but Brahms decided to throw all of it away…

[@-cloudsaboveuscrying-6805]

THAT IS SO TRUE LOL

[@republiccooper]

So true.

[@donaldds9528]

Moszkowski and Chopin are up in heaven comparing and discussing their respective sets of studies. Thank you for uploading these dazzlingly executed creations.

[@pianosbloxworld4460]

Who do you think is winning the discussion?

[@glenngouldschair390]

@@pianosbloxworld4460 I think for some, Chopin definitely is winning but for quite a few, Moszkowski is the winner.

[@rachelpeham4800]

@@pianosbloxworld4460 moszkovski

[@bigdick3228]

@@pianosbloxworld4460 chopin for the introvert, moskowski for the extrovert.

[@pianosbloxworld4460]

@@bigdick3228 i’m introverted so for me chopin is a big winner

[@ManiacalG222]

I've been practicing Czerny with my teacher, and I forgot about how much harder etudes can get. Kudos to the performer. Everyone is always talking about how hard loud pounding Liszt is(which it is), but hardly anyone acknowledges the difficulties of leggiero and other soft touches

[@レオのまま]

ピアノが上手いというのはどれだけピアニシモで歌ったり軽やかに難しいパッセージが弾けてその大変さを感じさせない人です。

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

Liszt wasn't just about "hard pounding" (and this takes a leap of understanding and craft to convey the loudest fortissimo without thrashing the keyboard) but leggiero too. He was a universal pianist.

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

According to Wikipedia, Ilana Vered (b.1943) is an Israeli pianist and teacher. The etudes she is credited with being the first to do it were recorded in 1970. She took lessons with none other than Vlado Perlemuter and Rosina Lhevinne. The effect of their combined approach is enduring and can be heard clearly. Since Vlado Perlemuter was Moszkowsky's student, it's no wonder this repertoire choice came as his influence. From reading the composer's biography, one could surmise that Franz Liszt himself admired Moszkowsky: the fact that as unforgiving as he was towards fellow musicians, he sat at the second piano to assist Moszkowsky in premiering his piano concerto is quite telling.

[@pianoforte17xx48]

No. 13 is HEAVENLY

[@cedricrlongreen]

His Etudes are at a level of greatness that can give people options if they're tired of the standard repertoire 🔥

[@oscargill423]

I'm not sure who I'm more impressed with, the composer or the pianist. That's usually a good sign.

[@teriboyd405]

This is like a rollercoaster ride you are on that you never want to end. Such fantastic pieces of music.

[@kryschiou4449]

i love #11, so delicate yet with awesome virtuosity.

[@JaxEntersEvasion]

It's wonderful, she plays it so well

[@christiankliber]

Thank you for the upload, what a treasure! For anyone dreaming of playing Chopin and Liszt pieces with greater freedom, learning a few (well, preferably 4 or more) of these EPIC virtuosic studies will have a surprisingly positive effect. Pay attention not only to the notes, but also the dynamics and especially the fingering; one might have to change some of the written ones, or try various different solutions until freedom is achieved

[@republiccooper]

Tell us a bit about Ilana Vered. She really brings these pieces to life. What a virtuoso!

[@НатальяМужичкова-у3ю]

Спасибо большое! Это наслаждение! Прекрасное исполнение! Нужно, чтобы юные музыканты почаще слушали такие записи!

[@HansPeter-hx5dx]

Love these Etudes, they are great preparation for Chopin and Liszt

[@KaisarAnvar]

Ah, childhood memories...

[@simpyoungyuk3885]

You must've been a child prodigy.

[@MicoAquinoComposer]

These are great études! The first one brought me to classical music back in 2017. Now I am learning it :)

[@JohnJohnson-yy7pi]

Thanks for uploading these wonderful etudes.

[@AsrielKujo]

Mozowsky has some really amazing ideas...

[@bloodybonescomic]

I need to put some Moszkowski CD's on my Chopin Liszt.

[@ThePianoExperience]

😂

[@henrydenner5448]

Wow! Moszkowski's melodies are so beautiful and these Etudes are wonderful!!!!!

[@benlindsay6012]

Thank you for uploading these charming pieces by Moszkowski.

[@popola7284]

21:15 this is crazy

[@PianoScoreVids]

Wow thats some intense playing :o

[@npelletier89]

I remember learning #4 for my piano exam... and my younger sister would always come by and go "nanananananana Batman!" because of the left hand -_- Also. Wow. #13... hadn't heard it before. That is amazing

[@piotrszmyt106]

The Etude No. 4 was actually inspired by the theme from Batman. Moszkowski was big fan of this show.

[@yuk_notkim7658]

@@piotrszmyt106 And where's the evidence?

[@jacquespotter2443]

@@yuk_notkim7658 🤣

[@yuk_notkim7658]

@@jacquespotter2443 Man, I just want to know where he or she got the info from.

[@jacquespotter2443]

@@yuk_notkim7658 I would advise you to have a look at the year Moszkowski composed these pieces.

[@leonwhitesell4849]

It is not hard to understand why Josef Hofmann was such a magnificent pianist since he studied with Moszkowski for more than 8 years, before coaching with Anton Rubinstein!

[@SoupyMold]

Splendid interpretation

[@bailahie4235]

Incredible, that first track (No. 1)... What a Gem, on par with Chopin, and also somewhat reminiscent of Mendelssohn in the brightness of the energy. It also shines through Ilana Vered's interpretation. (I think you should mention her in your description, she 's as much the artist at work here as Moszkowksi!). Some others play it like it is Mozart, and seem to miss the point - and do not bring out all the brilliant effects hidden in this piece.

[@xgiacomocalore6490]

Amazing! Extraordinary!

[@Αννηχειμωνας1]

I love no2,no13,no14🌺🎹🎵

[@laerciolira7007]

Brillant, bravo......,

[@cedricrlongreen]

9,11 and 12 speak to me as future pieces to learn😍🎶

[@jesusalejandroinzunzajimen7282]

En el minuto 10:26 se aprecia un magnífico sonido de 432hz impresionante!

[@thatnicekid04]

The pianist is wonderful!

[@leandrechardon2268]

underrated af

[@lluisrafalessole-classical5068]

Thanks 🎶👏🎹

[@ralfsteinhage1310]

very peziese played..... bravo

[@greganer]

These pieces are fun to listen to, and it is daunting to think about learning them myself, but they really do not, in my opinion, bear comparison to Chopin. For the most part each of these Moszkowski etudes does one thing (in many of them, passages played very fast), whereas in Chopin, while each piece may focus on one particular technical problem, for example, parallel thirds, most of them, fiendishly, also combine it with some other problem, a musical one to balance the technical problem. I feel after I have listened my way through these Moszkowski etudes I will have had enough and will not want to listen to them again; on the other hand, I have returned to listening to the Chopin etudes many times, and they are not even his greatest music. My opinion, but there it is.

[@bigdick3228]

we get it, you prefer chopin.

[@jacktomchang9892]

Do you Improvise? Because I have found that these etudes of my "Good Friend" Moritz are really a Launchpad of sorts. I wish I could say the same for Chopin.

[@oldrichcepelka296]

Should we compare these two from this point of view?

[@음악감상용-r5w]

0:30 7:14

[@none5020]

14:48 this seems like a direct quote to Hellers Op. 46 No. 1

[@xiexiangbaihe]

Of course is Ilana Vered’s recording❤

[@cfr3084]

So cool !

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

6:59 the beginning of No 5 looks and feels a lot like a Czerny Etude from the School of Velocity.

[@yuk_notkim7658]

That's what I thought when I first saw it.

[@ralfsteinhage1310]

very peziese played bravo

[@marcorval]

I can't help but wonder if Scriabin took inspiration from Moskowski for his early style. Listen to no. 13.

[@whenu8688]

Learning first mvmnt rn and suffering

[@gokhannesipogullari7199]

Perfect

[@JohannesBruhms]

I'd say at least no.13 is equal to Chopin's.

[@chrisvanschothorst8075]

I was like do i still have video speed on 1.5 times or what

[@ThePianoExperience]

😂

[@bigdick3228]

me too!

[@bbvv2967]

no 4 reminds me chopin op 10. no 7

[@pianosbloxworld4460]

How often will I have to practice my scales to play this?

[@ThePianoExperience]

A lot

[@markfowlermusic]

Wonder if overall they're harder as a set than chopins or liszts... They sound and look terrifying to play.

[@jocabsb1000]

They’re easier then Chopin’s studies. They’ve should be played before you go to Chopin

[@glenngouldschair390]

Teacher: Look, Moszkowski, you either choose between good, musical, melodies, or virtuosity Moszkowski: Hold my beer, I won’t Moszkowski: Yeah my Op.72 etudes I’m not gonna chose

[@yuk_notkim7658]

I don't know why, but one of the modulations in the first etude made me laugh because it was pretty weird.

[@ivansrg05]

Anyone knows what does "gajo" mean? In 18:24.

[@philipsmith3084]

Terribly difficult. At least they were for me.

[@diogomori9624]

They sound insanely difficult! Which one is the hardest?

[@hastensavoir7782]

What level is this? What studies do I need to go through before playing these?

[@ThePianoExperience]

These pieces are really hard. I think that an advanced amateur can play these pieces if he studies at a slow pace and with patience and perseverance.

[@hastensavoir7782]

@@ThePianoExperience thanks. I was set to import the book, I might get something else like Scarlatti Sonatas and Chopin Mazurkas from Alfred.

[@ThePianoExperience]

Hi again :), I recommend the Chopin Mazurkas. They are all beautiful, melodic and fun to play. I am playing them at the moment. :)

[@diogomori9624]

God level lol

[@carlhopkinson]

If you slow this down to half speed, a lot of unevenness is apparent.

[@amvalkyrie6496]

No. 13 very chopinesque😍

[@alaetoutcourt3771]

Hello i nees to play the first one for my finals but i struggle a lot with the tempo and with the last part i’m 14 any advices pls?

[@ThePianoExperience]

Sorry for the late reply, -Work both hands separately then at the same time. - Make sure you have the right fingering. - Also, I think patience and perseverance is important when studying this work.

[@ThePianoExperience]

Good luck 🤞 :) !

[@alaetoutcourt3771]

@@ThePianoExperience thank youu

[@alaetoutcourt3771]

@@ThePianoExperience i pased my exam and got Tres bien which is like an A

[@xuchris1400]

8:14

[@mbsilveirabr]

😱

[@derinzehraerdem]

VERY DIFFICULT!!!

[@derinzehraerdem]

I hate 6! working is exhausting :(

[@Medtszkowski]

How is someone’s supposed to play this

[@fanach]

what is the best editions of sheets for the etudes?

[@cedricrlongreen]

I might have to learn the 9th one that one's sexy😂🔥

[@가을-j7m]

14:40

[@Pablo-gl9dj]

This has been sped up a tad. Why? It makes it sound absurd.

[@bassodivo1]

Wonderful agility and suppleness. The interpretation could be better in my opinion. Almost no pedal used. Wow

[@lisatutunjian]

These études lost their charm...why so fast??? Sorry

[@galinaparfenova9187]

J'm agree,very fast!Not sorry....

[@polonaise]

18:48

[@chadvindin9933]

Who is the pianist on this recording?

[@ThePianoExperience]

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention the pianist in the description. The pianist is Ilana Vered.

[@jocabsb1000]

Who is the pianist?

[@paulstrickler5684]

Israeli pianist Ilana Vered.

[@paulstrickler5684]

If I remember correctly, this recording was released on LP in the early '70s. There was a photograph of the pianist on the album cover; as a teenage piano student, I thought she looked very scary (apologies, Ms Vered), and her playing bewitched me - I’d never heard anything so thrilling. I must’ve played the grooves right off that disc.

[@wellingtonsoaresdacosta5635]

❤

[@Davideberti]

Who Is a pianist??

[@bortkievitch]

Ilana Vered. This vinyl was recorded in 1970.

[@Davideberti]

@@bortkievitch ah ok! Fantastic!

[@lloydbotway5930]

#2: "allegro brillante" does not mean "play it so fast you can't hear the separate notes clearly." This pianist was just showing off, not being musical.

[@carlhopkinson]

I find a lot of the playing here unmusical.

[@gabrielebano6570]

troppo preoccupata di correre a più non posso, non riesce a dar risalto,, come dovrebbe alle melodie. Affetta da sindrome della dattilografa, pollice verso

[@frankmarter6845]

Sounds like Czerny.

[@pianoforte17xx48]

Actually doesn't to me at all, feels like the opposite

[@Rickriquinho]

Every study will have certain similarities.

[@davidrds]

Actually, contrary to common belief, there is quite some music in Czerny's advanced studies, if performed correctly.

[@bigdick3228]

@@davidrds yes, especially his op. 692 and op. 756 studies. Those are his musical etudes.

[@simpyoungyuk3885]

The beginning of the 5th one sounds like Czerny.

[@lisatutunjian3555]

Very exaggerated speed…. The musical intensity is disappearing….

[@robertoa.m.3984]

Incredibly meaningless except for the fingers

[@composerjalen]

They're etudes

[@yuk_notkim7658]

I would expect that to be in a Czerny etude video, but for Moszkowski, that's just unacceptable.

[@galimusic7164]

There is lot of music inside these studies, which unfortunately does not emerge in this type of interpretations. It is a dump of notes with no art at all. It is like a F1 competition, or a Circus. Very sad.

[@Dichweed]

A whole lot of notes. Very little said.

[@d_rivadeneyra]

Ur stupid.

[@cobalthorizon]

Terrible playing. Loud and fast. No expansion or breath into three dimensions. Flat and 2 dimensional. Could be a typewriter.

[@yuk_notkim7658]

Most of these etudes are meant to be loud and fast. The A-flat minor etude isn't loud and fast. On the contrary, it sounds more like Chopin compared to Moszkowski's other etudes from this opus. In addition, there's the D-flat Major etude and the A-flat Major etude that are fast, but not necessarily loud.

[@cobalthorizon]

@@yuk_notkim7658 "loud and fast" is a pejorative within the classical piano community to describe unartful playing. It is not a criticism of the composition, but rather of it's execution. Listen to this interpretation to hear how it can and should be rendered: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGWYl6aVnpJ6bdE

[@timcergol963]

play them better then

[@angelobonacci461]

Ci sono molte affinità a chopin....

[@thebatman6991]

Czerny' studies a..😆😆😆