Mother 3's Darkest Mystery

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Hey guys, thanks for checking out my new video! Mother 3 has always been super intriguing to me, so today we dive into one of the craziest aspects...The unused boss backgrounds. What is their purpose? Why do they exist? Today we take a look at some of the theories, leave your thoughts below!

[@alcatrazvongola]

I think these backgrounds were Lucas’ perspective of the Masked Man (Klaus) changing throughout the final battle. The flashbacks could also be moments where Klaus was getting his memories back against Porky’s brainwashing.

[@mikaro6528]

I think they were probably part of the unused "Bad End" , as the text of "Happy End" can be found in the games files, In a possible alternate path or alternate final boss, Where Klaus becomes a new Giygas or something similar after pulling all the needles himself, possibly exactly what Porky wanted to happen.

[@Dragon_Screamer]

When you mentioned going down "the rabbit hole", I thought you were going to be more investigative than speculative. Most is just fan theory, and little factual information is actually shown...

[@Mr.Ketchup1526]

does anyone know what the vapor 2 soundtrack is called

[@Mantekilla22]

I think this was amazing! I love your mother content!

[@iiredx1087]

It's simple for me. Each picture is a different part of Claus' transformation into the Masked Man, as he IS a chimera. The first two demonstrate the chimera within him, the next images show Claus, what is being put into these chimeras. And lastly, the horrifying zoom in of Claus, as well as the red face, is showing when Claus is actually being put into the masked man. The Claus close up is him losing himself entirely, losing his heart that the Magypsies could not sense, and the very last horrifying image is the new Claus, heartless.

[@PkmariO64]

“This video contains spoilers for Mother 3” Me, who has already seen all of the spoilers despite having not beaten the game yet: *Nice*

[@cabracadabra_4256]

Man, go play it. I got all the game spoiled and still cried at the end. No piece of media ever has made me cry, at least not before mother 3.

[@StarmenRock]

Boasting about ruining an experience is very new and weird to me. Well, its your loss.

[@PkmariO64]

@@cabracadabra_4256 - I have played the game, I just haven’t beaten it yet. It’s a good game, but far from being my favourite (which is EarthBound funnily enough).

[@PkmariO64]

@@StarmenRock - To be fair, it’s practically impossible to avoid spoilers if you join any of the Mother communities on the internet.

[@grilledpook]

Me who's been in the fandom almost 4 years and is still blown away by the theories:

[@elfiebranford9330]

Imagine if this hidden boss came from an idea of entering Claus' Magicant, and unlike Queen Mary's or Ness', it was a horrific place filled with dread because of Porky's manipulation and brainwashing. You'd basically have to defeat this boss in order to have Claus be free. Honestly, I know I'm just guessing and having a bit of wishful thinking, but I would LOVE if that was the case here!!

[@buzzbuzz20xx]

Ah that's very interesting!

[@maxarmstrong9798]

this shit gave me chills. best theory i’ve read about what that was. i had no idea how to make sense of it

[@tamashi4242]

Nintendo direct tomorrow hopefully we get a mother series remake

[@flaco3462]

that'd actually be pretty awesome yeah especially since there is no magicant in the third game which is a bit of a shame

[@neuro1073]

@@tamashi4242 I very highly doubt that. But hey, We can only dream lol. Honestly having porky in smash would be more likely and even then I think his chances of him making it are very slim. Like I said, us fans can only dream. Edit: Oh well!

[@pros_0143]

I think Claus just became so powerful that he lost his mind and body, just like Giygas.

[@irmafernandez5220]

You know That Can Be a True Theory Of The Video Game Series 🤔😱😱😱

[@bluebirdsigma]

Aside from these backgrounds (Itoi, please just tell us what they were supposed to mean), I'm also disturbed by the other missing sprites, the Dead Porky and both the Claus suspended in the air and being reconstructed like Darth Vader. That last one implies we were gonna get a flashback to Claus' transformation into the masked man. Speaking of flashbacks, the final one of the "Claus' memories" ends with static and shutting down like a computer. Maybe in the original plan we'd see Claus dying from his POV, that might tie into Itoi's declarations of "making the whole final battle without dialogue"

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Yeah, that was pretty creepy too

[@thomasstrasser7554]

Wait what! Where can I find these porky and Claus sprites?

[@bluebirdsigma]

@@thomasstrasser7554 Check out the Cutting Room Floor wiki. Google "mother 3 tcrf" and you'll find them.

[@thomasstrasser7554]

Cool! Thank you!

[@mbmproductions9217]

THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT A ROPE SNAKE

[@ima9558]

Neither a straw

[@Joemame]

More like an "oh god i'm so scared I want to rope neck."

[@Plasticshavings]

yeah, it's a ⬛️

[@corbin6063]

my hot take: claus was originally supposed to be porkys recreation of guigas

[@arielmunizaga4064]

I like this theory, it's like porky tried to resurrect him.

[@bluetophatanimations]

Giygas*

[@givemeham2301]

@Yess7895 hey, you just blown in from stupid town?

[@Luke-1337]

Ah yes my favourite eldritch abomination transformed alien baby thing, G U I G A S

[@brianb2308]

When it comes to the names of the enemies in the backgrounds, I wouldn't look into it too much. For one, the game was initially in Japanese, but it's the fan translation that made it english, so first letter shenanigans and whatnot won't work. Secondly, programmers will sometimes use dummy names for things that are undecided, so possibly they were unsure what they wanted to have happen in certain places of the game, but they made all these assets so that if they wanted them, they're there. Third, as an alternative to the second one, it's possible the enemy name just corresponds to the id that the hacker entered for what fight would trigger the background, since changing around memory values does that type of thing.

[@yellowpower3755]

Huh.... that makes me wonder what these forms’ original Japanese names are...

[@rompevuevitos222]

Also, they backgrounds and names pairing may just be the result of moving all unused stuff to unused addresses, so they jjst sweep everything over to those and shit just ended being scrambled With names not having their own real backgrounds they just where assigned whathever

[@drasnezae2370]

Cool! Keep doing this! Mother is awesome.

[@Orangecatinahoodie]

Congrats on first

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Thank you! Will do!

[@sauerkrautandonions]

I love my mom too!

[@megaman161]

I read a theory a long time ago that suggested the backgrounds were intended to accompany the final battle. When the battle begins, you'd see the "robot" background, as Claus still saw himself as Porky's lifeless minion, or when Hinawa speaks to him saying he isn't Porky's robot but instead their son, you'd see the image of him as a little kid. When she says "you and Lucas are brothers", you'd see the overlapping image of him and Lucas in the background. And so on.

[@shawnbay2211]

I really really just want someone to recreate the original concept of mother 3 using the hidden assets... especially the kindness stat. I’m surprised no one has started a fan game of this yet, that is my dream.

[@yesman4771]

I believe its more of a twin theory. Some say twins can feel each other's pain etc. Perhaps this was that twin connection in a form of a nightmare.

[@maagic2031]

I'm personally a fan of the "Lucas' Nightmare theory". Lucas is the odd one out of the Mother protagonists and doesn't have a dream world that they visit. It would also slot pretty well into Chapter 6 with Lucas seeing the Masked Man who suspiciously looks like him and needing to confront the topic of his brother's fate once again. While I do enjoy Chapter 6's inclusion, it is a bit odd that there is no gameplay there and I think a bit of wandering around in Lucas' mind, being assaulted by psychic manifestations of survivor's guilt, just to be pulled out and saved by Hinawa would fit well before the lengthy Chapter 7 mission.

[@dragonspear570]

Quick Note: The video showing the unused boss is a montage of the various appearances it would have taken, the accompanying music comes from the original Earthbound to add effect, in fact there is another soundtrack in Mother 3 that went unused that would have probably accompanied the boss itself.

[@MateDrinker33]

It's commonly theorized that the unused "Giygas-like" track was from a stage of development where the Ultimate Chimera was still fought as a conventional boss character (in the final, he just kills your entire party just by being interacted with).

[@DeepWeeb]

Can't believe we almost got Jetix's logo as a boss fight, only if... 😔

[@violetthebat8810]

*LOL!!!* XD

[@panconqueso53]

And xbox

[@aerth6946]

I don't really know about the story behind those, but I sure feel some early Newgrounds vibes from this specific drawing 05:17

[@logans.7932]

Is there a point in development where you had to square tf up with Aeolia's coffee table?

[@porcuprick]

my theroey is tha these backgrounds were to be used in relation to the unused happy end sprite and the sorta unused kindness stat. i always thought that if the player didnt have enough kindness the player would get a bad ending, for instentse, in the fight against porky the party kills him (using the also unsused sprite of porkys machine breaking down) not letting him get into the super safe capsual. as they move towards the needle like in the main game the masked man electrocutes the party, leading into a boss fight with only lucas. the fight starts as normal, with the normal backround, although, lucas can actually fight back. but something isnt right, hinawa dosnt interfeare its just the two brothings attacking each other, obilivous to the truth. as they continue to attack the masked mans mask starts to break, orange tuffts of hair pointing out as lucus starts to find out the truth, the more and more the mask breaks the more and more lucas realizes its his brother... or is it?? He isnt sure how to tell, if this is claus was why didnit he reconize him!? he is compelled to keep attacking, hiss attacks getting weaker and weaker as he tries to comprahend if the masked man truly is claus... his mind getting lost in the confusion as he starts to stress. but by the time he breaks the mask... Claus casts pk thunder in a last ditch effort to defeat his brother, once again killing him. Lucas is distrought as he looks at the corpse of what once was his brother... But Claus didnt even know who he truly was in the end. With eavy greif over the death of his brother, blaming himself fpr the masked mans death. Lucas pulls the final needle. the credits roll as the nowhere islands are destroyed, unlike the happy end, the player isnt aloud to move around. a bit too dark and maybe kinda edgy but thats how thought the unused fight would play out.

[@yellowpower3755]

Hmm..... makes me wonder if the boss theme would be a bit different than normal, too..... cause the original theme fit the mood of Lucas not wanting to attack and all that. But if he isn’t holding back here and doesn’t realize it’s Claus till the very end....

[@MsDarkz123]

Flint and Porky confirmed to Lucas the masked man's identity before the battle though.

[@MidnyteSketch]

To me the strange names feel like these were all other battles that they had planned at one point in time, but their data was then re-purposed to hold these backgrounds, maybe meant to swap them out in sequence in the last battle. But then they ended up not going with the idea so most of them were never re-named or given sprites.

[@MarinaDV]

I'd say those are most probably the remaining of an alpha multi-stage final boss battle against Claus mixed with different concepts by the devs to test how they looked in-game (is pixel art Claus creepy enough or should we go with the more detailed one?, etc). The weird enemy names, as you suggest, is simply because they used them to trigger and test each battle scene independently. As for why this content was left in the cartridge… well, most probably because they didn't need the storage space, knew that no one would see it unless they hacked the rom… and also because it'd be a pain to find and remove that code last-minute without potentially breaking other triggers/variables in the process (coding for GBA is a box full of bad surprises). I don't really think Itoi had influence on that, as he wasn't the director of Mother 3 or an active part of the "technical" development team (apart from providing the writing and his feedback, of course).

[@rotomnation7662]

My theory is that these sequences were of clause turning into an entity similar to Giygas. Porky had figured out how Giegue went from being Giegue in the first mother game to Giygas in the second, and used those same methods to transform clause into a powerful entity he could control much easier than Giygas, and use his powers to destroy the universe, just because he was bored. So the ending of this game would help explain exactly how Giegue turned into Giygas, and possibly introduce something even more terrifying to the mother series.

[@MarceloKatayama]

My theory would be that these enemies were meant to appear right after the claus boss fight. When Lukas wakes the dragon up. It would have something to do with h9w he was overcome with grief and emotion, and so, he would have to fight those in order to correctly influence the dark dragon, and make it as human as possible by having it learn from his weakness, or something like that.

[@thekrakenexperiment280]

Well, I’m glad I didn’t watch this before bed.

[@cabracadabra_4256]

I wasn't that lucky

[@lamb6276]

@@cabracadabra_4256 you go to sleep at 1pm?

[@cam2248]

@@lamb6276 different time zones

[@lamb6276]

@@cam2248 oh yeah oops

[@PGM_EGG]

It can’t be that bad

[@theinsanegamer1024]

After watching this, as a person who is far from a mother superfan, I have a theory that fits fairly well as far as I can see. When you fight claus in the final battle, instead of him being in his pig man commander outfit, he's in his normal clothes. He had just pulled the last needle. He was given his wish, ultimate power, the power to slay his enemies. A gold light shines and claus suddenly becomes a golden angelic form, shimmering and shifting, the ultimate form of PK love. You fight, he's tough but you're still holding on. This infuriates him, he has the power to slay his enemies so why can't he kill you? His form shifts, he's now an strange silver alien like thing. You keep fighting, he shouts "Die! die! die! die!" His form shifts, now he's naked for some reason, but his power keeps growing as he keeps getting angrier, but you keep trying. His form shifts again, his body disappears and leaves him screaming. "Aahhh!" Eventually his form shifts once more, his power having overtaken his mind. "Lucas! Lucas! LUCAS!" But you still beat this wannabe gygias with the help of the spirit of Hinawa. The battle between the brothers finishes, claus revealing that the reason he couldn't beat you was because you weren't his enemy, that there was a small part that was still Lucas's brother. As Claus says this, he shimmers and shifts, then saying "You really got strong. Maybe you'll be strong enough to fix the mess I helped make. I hope you'll forgive me, but I understand if you don't." The player is given the option of yes or no. There's different dialog but no other changes. Yes, "I don't know if you're just saying that or if you really mean it, but thank you bringing me back to my senses, and for being my brother till the end." No, "I see... I don't blame you, a lot of this mess was because I pulled the needles out. Even if I was mind controlled, I still did it even if I wasn't willing. I hope someday you'll forgive me, and thank you for bringing me back to my senses, and for being my brother till the end." The screen is filled with light and we wake up, everyone we know alive and fine. There's things to do, to fix, but a lot of time to do it. Basically: Claus nearly became giygas 2.0 after getting too powerful. This ties up the themes of mother pretty well, book ending the series and showing humanity as finally advancing further by accomplishing what George and Maria, Ninten and Ness couldn't: stopping evil on their own, with kindness and love. Showing that evil is no where near as strong as the bond of true family.

[@panthekirb7561]

I am glad that Itoi didn't end up making Mother 3's ending extremely dark. I don't think I'd be able to cope with that. No game impacted me emotionally as much as this one when I first played it back all the way in 2011 or so.

[@Bubblily]

How does this guy only have 5k subs? He deserves more!

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Thanks!

[@matiascrispim1371]

I think that the red background is represent that claus lost his mind, just like gygas, hurting and without a mind. The other backgrounds for me represent what Lucas is seeing, seeing his brother behind that mask maked him start thinking in all the pain and suffering that claus got true.

[@Wm7forthewin]

I don’t think Claus just becomes giygas, but more like lucas’ mind go insane during the masked man battle.

[@PsijicElectro]

That nightmare music really reminded me of some of Giygas 's theme from earthbound; the motions of the lucas and claus as battle backgrounds did as well. Seems like they originally wanted the ending to be similar, but changed it because as we know, giygas was disturbing af.

[@Wooper2009]

Bro while the Vapor 2 Appeared, A Whopper ad began playing and that scared the shit outta me 💀

[@KittyKatty999]

It could be a PTSD Hallucination, caused by hearing that Claus is the Masked Man.

[@Julian-mc3tc]

Has anyone ever asked Itoi on his twitter about the unused stuff ? He seems like a nice guy maybe he will answers us.

[@F1areon]

I think he said these are just unused backgrounds for the Masked Man fight.

[@link01742]

I like to think what that Gigas entity was was porky upgrading Claus's psychic ability so much so that he became of psychic entity much like how the antagonist from mother 1 lost his body, had to be put in the devil machine and became Gigas in mother 2

[@dr.metroid6119]

Lucas's nightmare was probably planned for that Island he goes to.

[@Bobb11881]

It wasn't left in because Itoi wanted it or because he wanted you to find it. It was left in because they didn't feel like removing it and there was no reason to do so. Removing stuff from the game requires work that would not have to be done if you do not remove it. Nearly every game ever has content left in the files that didn't make it into the final build. For a relevant example, Star Fox Adventures has tons of stuff left in from Dinosaur Planet and from earlier drafts of the story post-transition. Seriously, go to TCRF and check, it's insane.

[@padawanslayer4895]

I love how you put in the cave of the past ost to make it creepier

[@kevinm5940]

13:06 in most cases, it simply isn't worth the effort to remove unused content from the code.

[@joshteague2473]

5:04: thanks for giving me nightmares

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

i try my best

[@DynoSkrimisher]

8:56 Their connection was that strong that they even manage to have a saber duel with them switching between two different places.

[@amzrigh]

One of Itoi's inspirations in writing Mother 3 was Agota Kristof's book Le Grand Cahier. It's written from the perspective of twins Lucas and Claus keeping a journal; left with their awful grandmother for their safety during WWII, they steel themselves against pain and emotion to cope, and record what they hear and see very matter-of-factly. There will be spoilers for this further down. Now, I'm not sure what the angelic or that other form are. But between the inspiration and Itoi talking about betraying the player, I have a guess what to make of the scene where both appear: we've been dealing with an unreliable narrator, and it's all coming apart. In the third book of the trilogy, The Third Lie, it's revealed the twin brother was made up, another trauma coping mechanism. (There was also something about a disfigured skeleton that he claimed was his brother...? I dunno, it's been 20+ years since I read it.) There's any number of ways the game could have gone with that-maybe Lucas had been projecting all his trauma onto this unrelated foe, maybe only Lucas actually saw the Masked Man, maybe it was his own alter ego and he couldn't hide it any longer. I dunno, I'm not a writer.

[@Ghennesph]

"why didn't they remove" because that's some amount of work, however insignificant, and is completely unnecessary. You don't go to work to waste your time faffing about, aggressively deleting content that might not get used in the final game when it's not necessary. unused content is removed en masse when more space is needed or the like, and is otherwise typically left alone.

[@CaptObvious42]

My theory is those scenes happen during the final battle as Lucas is trying to reach out to his brother. Each background, though not in order, represent a moment in Claus' death and eventual rebirth. The creepy red background is the exact moment of his death, or maybe represent the moment of the fall that leads to his death.

[@GottaBGlitches]

I've watched another video about this, and the theory discussed in it feels so believable that I think more people need to know about it. Basically, the backgrounds were supposed to be in the Masked Man battle like in the final theory, and represented Claus' pain and his mental state, but got scrapped, and the unused cutscenes are Claus' memories, literally corrupted after he's brought back to life by porky. I'll find the video again and edit my comment to link it, or at least say who made the video, because they deserve credit for the theory. Edit: the video was The psychology of Claus - a MOTHER 3 analysis by DaEgg123

[@Isaac_646]

I think these backgrounds were supposed to be used for the final battle with the masked man and as the fight progresses it gets more scarier as claus realizes who he is.

[@ziqi92]

Someone patch this into the game! Lucas and Claus battle like before, but this time, after Lucas meets certain conditions, their dad comes in to temporarily hold back Claus, and allows Lucas enters Claus’s mind to do battle against Porky’s corrupt influence. These assets should be used for that fight, with their mom’s voice appearing during that battle. After winning, Claus will be free from Porky and alive, but comatose. The original battle can be an alternate ending where Claus dies because you couldn’t meet the conditions to stop him from committing suicide. It could be an extensive sidequest about Lucas’s mom, granting Lucas a key item (or melody) that will help him take on Claus in a different way.

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Maybe those creepy sprites and background is for chapter 7 when lucas eats weird mushroom

[@WubbaLubbaLoFi]

Hell yeah man! I love this Earthbound analysis.

[@dashylongfoot]

It does really intrigue me, the idea that Lucas' nightmare is of a sequence that reflect of what Claus is going through. His humanity slowly being stripped away as his body physically gets torn and rebuilt a new. Side note, the entire sequence in my opinion is is reverse or is jumbled, as I feel the 2 angelic entities, both golden and normal is a way to show what's left of Claus' soul, as we see him being in pain screaming, being stripped of humanity looking like a grey, red eyed entity, until he is nothing but an angel with wings, with glowing red eyes.

[@alphasimaed]

An old theory, I remember it was Hinawa Soul trying to reach the twins showing Claus but also Lucas as an expectator that he was Him his Son and Living being while Masked Man Programing keep remind him that he was a Souless Robot of Porky. all while Old Claus was suffering a Breakdown of all of this.

[@WingedSupernova]

I have something that may help with the reason that yellow angel-like enemy is called "tent person". In Japanese there is an honorific used "shi" which you can use for someone you've never met but have heard about. If the Japanese is written as "Tent-shi" they could translate it as "tent person". Of course this name is a pun, because the Japanese word "tenshi" means angel.

[@yellowpower3755]

Hmm…. Very interesting… what about some of the others?

[@polyman6859]

It could be possible the dream theory inspired Omori which is an rpg with a heavy focus on nightmares and dreams as well as mental health. These sprites greatly disturb me, especially the naked Claus one.

[@cabracadabra_4256]

I greatly doubt it, but idk

[@RayOfTruth]

The Last Jedi mentioned? "A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one."

[@darkrider962]

Nice synthwave in the background!

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Synthwave is life

[@Rabbids_Go_Home]

I think that, with the cut giygas fight, these sprites of claus, and the one that’s seemingly claus’ screaming face that’s red and black (vapour 2) I think that possibly the end would’ve had Claus’ suffering would’ve manifested himself… into giygas, basically summoning him, somthing porky possibly could’ve been trying to do on purpose for whatever reason I don’t think what itoi said does really completely decongirms it once being something they considered

[@mystichikari4544]

Mother 3 content in 2021? I'm living for it😭❤️

[@CoreDreamStudios]

2024 for me :)

[@mystichikari4544]

@@CoreDreamStudios Glad to see you here! 💞🌻

[@Annexialol]

I'm back in the Mother rabbit hole.

[@itswolfgmd8212]

I think it’s Claus losing against the coding of Porky

[@silverwings9276]

Ummh..I think the names are just the names of the actual enemies you're replacing with the cheats

[@phantom2450]

Yeah, it wouldn’t feel right to me if Giygas interrupted the final battle. Mother 1 and Mother 2 share certain elements (Giygas, Starmen, Magicant) while Mother 2 and Mother 3 share others (namely Porky). The game didn’t set up Giygas at all, so it’d be weird to shoehorn him in. The cut scenes with Lucas and Claus always remind me of Flint’s flashback right after he’s knocked out at the campfire. It’s possible Lucas was intended to similarly reminisce about his childhood at his lowest moments. The strangest thing about some of those battle backgrounds is that many of them would’ve been covered up by an enemy sprite in the middle of the screen. Lends credence to the idea that these weren’t actually meant to be encountered in a normal battle. Also, figured I’d note that in Japanese culture, nudity symbolizes innocence or one’s pure soul. That was already a part of Mother 2 (Ness in Magicant) and in the cut backgrounds could’ve indicated that we’re seeing Claus’ soul.

[@goats4life323]

Rope snake and vapor 2 freaks me out...

[@rayminishi689]

If itoi confirms that Mother 3 was always meant to be Brother v Brother. I think the one character that might have gone from side character to a passive main character is Lucas's Mother. If the disturbing backgrounds arent used and instead they opted for Claus to hear his mother makes more sense for a somber kind of ending it got. The one person most important to both of them and how things got resolved. Claus heading to where his mom went is more satisfying than brother v brother with.. who know what other ending it couldve been.

[@1BlueYoshi]

What if the "Train" enemy was what was originally supposed to happen when you got hit by the train in the railroad tunnel? Like, instead of an instant Game Over, it would start an encounter with the train, which would then be impossible to kill and would one hit kill your entire party? Kind of like Undyne's spears or the lasers in Undertale, but way stronger. In general, I don't think the enemy names and the battle backgrounds they appear on are related. I think it is just an unused enemy matched randomly to an unused background. The Vapors might be an exception.

[@ApollothaG]

5:16 This part chilled me to the bone and made me tear up

[@godrilla5549]

Right outta a creepypasta. Really want to play this series.

[@ManiManiPlays]

I loved plundering through these battles back in the day. Good stuff.

[@Callumbuddy]

I highly doubt Nintendo wishing to keep the game family friendly was the reason the final boss was changed, especially given content that's already in the game.

[@sinmenon4347]

This comment is well after you published the video, but here it goes: maybe the content was left behind because sometimes when you remove unused data you might end up breaking the code. So unless they were scrambling for space, leaving the data was the best choice. But the meaning of what they were suppposed to be? Now that's interesting

[@aerth6946]

I'm glad I've subscribed

[@WaywardBrigand]

How do your videos not have more views. This is awesome stuff.

[@YungAhamkara]

Great video. Very underrated.

[@Your_Comfort_Zone]

4:30 this music is from Mother 2's (Earthbound) "Caverns of Winters"

[@yeolemillinial8295]

now i've only really played the start of this game, but you do fight that dung beetle right at the start of the game and then go to sleep. maybe there was going to be scripted fights where you fight something mundane but then it shows up like that when you sleep that night. that is the impression i get from dung beetle being first at least

[@c0dYtheawesome]

I thought fools already knew about this. I guess I'll be back next week...

[@yellowpower3755]

“Fools”???

[@KT1459]

Loving the Mother content. Keep up the good work!

[@theecult2570]

Vapor 2 was probably a final reincarnation of gigyas

[@theecult2570]

Or maybe the game was meant to be longer and you needed to collect all 13 shards of claus' soul

[@lazyladytired]

Eh, it can’t be that ba - OH MY GOD??

[@SammEater]

I wonder how much stuff was supposed to be actually in the game or if it's just them testing stuff for the story, like potential concepts not something that would actually BE in the game.

[@ryncat8115]

12:26 sadly no, the esrb don't even play games... you should look it up tbh it says a lot about some game ratings

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

As far as the names go, I'm almost positive that "Lucas' nightmare" used existing enemies as a base and the devs never made them beyond those bases. They probably copy&pasted the code for the enemies, reworked most of the code but kept the names there. Why bother making all new events if you can edit one event just enough to see if your idea would work? The black boxes are probably there as the real enemy and the background is just a background. If this idea they had worked they probably would've made the boxes transparent so the player would think that they're fighting the background. But then they scrapped the idea altogether and didn't bother working on it any more than they already have.

[@cerealthe72nd]

damn i need to beat this game. im only on the part where you have to fight the living instruments lol

[@gamefreack64]

Mother 3 on the N64 (the plattform this game was originally developed) should be general a darker game. On the N64 (mostly the 64DD Add-On) should have a bigger story with 12 chapters and 12 playable characters

[@gamefreack64]

Thane Gaming make a video about the possible dark aspects from the original N64 version and possible chapters or story plots which removed from the GBA final version kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4anamemjqpjmJosi=IJUJsmlogIBtntpV

[@The93195]

if you look closely at rope snake and vapor 2s face you can see they both similar it was possibly supposed to be used for the final battle if claus loses his mind and becomes the new giygas

[@SilverTheHedgehog]

What instrument is used to create the creepy song in the enemy names section?

[@sufficient4834]

would make sense for Lucas to have a Magicant. It's been an important place in every game prior. May have been cut due to there not being a good place in the story to fit it

[@MrMrxdangerx411]

i dont really understand the dung beetle or the tent man but when i hear rope snake i thought of a noose. train (maybe getting hit by one?) vapor maybe car exaust. i dunno i may be cray but thats what it seemed like to me

[@disneyboy3030]

Someone should interview the director about this.

[@Poedoco]

looking at the wavering sprites makes me dizzy. 😭 and scared

[@marsgreekgod]

Just so you know people leave unused code because removing it takes time to do it right. Do it wrong and your game is unplayable

[@BradleyH41968]

I’d guess these were parts of that forest with the mushrooms.

[@_Adie]

Vapor 2 is some fucked up shit idk how they do it, but they really know how to make something look nightmare-ish by not doing much. Simple, yet distorted visuals, almost ambient music.

[@joshlips9661]

"How can we make a really dark and twisted game but not make it that way at all?" Someone asked "I know! How about we draw it for a little kids, like it's all cutesy and whatnot and then just let them fall for the trap..." *Snap* "Yes."

[@noahmichael2213]

If someone makes a rom hack for the final battle with all this stuff added, I will honestly pay you $50

[@feeeshmeister4311]

Mother 3 is a notoriously difficult game to hack, outside of things like simple palette swaps and dialogue changes. What you are talking about might be pushing the limits of what is possible with current tools.

[@noahmichael2213]

@@feeeshmeister4311 Okay, I'll make it $100

[@noahmichael2213]

@@feeeshmeister4311 seriously though, I don't know anything about programming and I just assumed that since it was a GBA game it would be easy. I'm glad you told me

[@feeeshmeister4311]

Noah Michael Hmm. You’ve intrigued me, so I might try to see what I can do. I make no promises though.

[@noahmichael2213]

@@feeeshmeister4311 All good! I won't hold you to anything haha. I remember a video from 5+ years ago of someone editing all that eerie content into the final battle and if made me want it so bad because I already consider it one of the best, if not the best, final boss battles of all time and with that creepy content added it would take it to an even higher level.

[@jakeroach77]

I thought I saw one of those Claus backgrounds while fighting on tanetane island?

[@Crimson-Hat]

My idea based on 0 facts at all is this could have been for a different Chapter 6. Rather then the one we got which I interpreted as a near death experience and that the sunflower field never existed, it was just in Lucas's mind as he fell, expecting to die. Rather it would be this where seeing the Masked Man for the 1st time on the pork ship triggered something in Lucas like a bonding of the soul with Claus and his unconscious mind dreams up these nightmare enemies with more fitting names, but no sprites and they attack Lucas in-between the flashbacks of memories with Claus. Again, no facts, just something I see in it

[@yellowpower3755]

What would those names be? The more fitting ones I mean....

[@Crimson-Hat]

​@@yellowpower3755 Well here are some ideas off the top of my head in the order I think some of them would show up: Train: Brothers Snow Bunny: Humanity Sign(Gray Claus): Death These is based on Lucas thinking Claus has been dead all this time (Cut to the memory of Claus, Lucas and Hinawa) Aeolia's Table: Witnessing Rope Snake: Anguish Straw: Removal Vapor: Soulless Vaper 2: Wailing Emptiness These are based on how the mental connection that may or may not be all in Lucas' head. Claus shows up as a young child, before growing up and fading away into a screaming red face showing his transformation Dung Beetle: Dehumanization Tent Person: Singularity These last ones are left up to the views of the player.

[@yellowpower3755]

@@Crimson-Hat Ohh, very interesting!

[@aidandrotzur6006]

4:50 actually that music is not played in the game, I tested these cheat codes for myself As far as I can tell the music is a miscommunication and was added in post by a popular video from user twistedquest and it's now commenly believed by people But I could be wrong I Especially believe this since these songs are actually from mother *2* and can't actually be found in mother 3s files Alternatively although it's very hard to believe it could be that these songs *are* somehow in the game and just didn't play for me

[@DonGamecube_2001]

1:01 a GAME THEORY!!!

[@Sparkle.Glider]

The creator of Earthbound was on freaking Iron Chef?!??

[@garfieldplush]

nice video

[@tannermccauley4894]

i see where undertale got its final area inspiration from