💥FPV Dogfight - Too Close for Guns vs Freewing F-22 Raptor 90mm

Head-tracking FPV close formation & dogfight with a Freewing F-22 Raptor 90mm EDF Jet using Tally-ho Head tracker and Motionsic BAG (BadAss Gimbal pan & tilt) in an E-flite Viper 90mm EDF jet. The chase pilot attempts to maneuver the ViperJet for a guns shot using a functional reflector sight but encounters unexpected difficulties. Head tracking FPV camera enables chase pilot to intuitively follow lead plane through aerobatic maneuvers simply by moving his head without losing sight. It's the most immersive, realistic flying experience possible flying a RC jet!
Link to build head tracker: headtracker.gitbook.io/head-tracker/
Link to buy the best head tracker: fpvdogfight.com/products/tally-ho-head-tracker
Link to buy the best FPV pan & tilt gimbal: fpvdogfight.com/
Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Takeoff
0:42 Apache roll
1:18 Close Chase
2:04 Taking 1st shot!
2:56 2nd Shot, trigger down!
3:49 F-22 Raptor landing
4:30 Viper dead-stick landing
F-22/lead pilot: Berkin
Viper/chase Pilot: Motionsic/ Robert
Spotter: Simon
Videographer/Editor: Ethan Liao
Field: Bob Swenson Field/Orange County Modelers Association
#FPVdofight #headtrackingFPV #RCplanedogfight

[@chrisdavisunofficial]

I have no idea how this ended up in my feed, but I'll take it. It's amazing to see how far the RC game has come in the last 25 years.

[@motionsic]

Come on now, if you are a guy and have ever imagined flying in a fighter jet, which I think every guy has one time or another, then this is for you😉

[@caulkwater]

Foreal I bought a 3D printer and started printing my own fpv drones, cars, planes, robots. It's so fun!

[@tac-cobserver3788]

Perhaps, you were sometimes looking for RC car, ship or airplane content, then the algorithm choose one of the best for you hehe 😊

[@chrisdavisunofficial]

@@tac-cobserver3788 I did watch lots of RC helicopter videos when KZbin first came out, but I stopped flying those in 2008 or so.

[@tac-cobserver3788]

@@chrisdavisunofficial whoa that's cool bro 🤙

[@humbertoolascoaga7941]

We’re inching closer and closer to mounting pellet guns in these things and I can’t wait! Lol

[@SgtJamesRay]

They make a air combat sys for planes. It works on IR light. The guys over at FlightTest showed it awhile back.

[@GODOFLIQUOR]

The problem is that they’re too expensive to replace if the bbs damage it so lasers are the best option for now

[@playboycarti624]

@@GODOFLIQUOR what about like a paint ball or chalk that would mark it

[@ec18c]

It has already been done… can’t find where but I’ve seen it!

[@ec18c]

@@GODOFLIQUOR you have paint bbs. Expensive but you have them!

[@aaronbrown1992]

It’s kinda crazy that the same principles of flight apply to small RC planes, just as much as they do with larger planes!

[@motionsic]

That’s the whole appeal to flying RC planes. Less cost and risk but retain most of the fun of flying full scale, if not more so. Since we get to do aerobatics, formation and dogfights, which most GA pilots don’t get to do.

[@orderlyhippo1569]

The only difference is that all physics are sped up by some factor because of the smaller scale. If you slow down the footage by some amount, then it would appear to fly the same as a large plane.

[@motionsic]

@@orderlyhippo1569 Astute observation! We either develop faster reaction times or need to fly bigger planes🙂

[@blameusa7082]

I find your statement crazy tbh

[@MattTee1975]

@@blameusa7082 Yeah, what a weird observation.

[@3dmonkeybizz]

Man! You guys make me feel old. The last time I flew RC was back in 1993. This is all "Star Trek" to me!! It looks sooooooo damn cool. When did all this remote camera stuff really start. I remember so very very primitive stuff at the end of the 90's, but nothing like this! Thanks for the super content!

[@motionsic]

Analog FPV remained pretty primitive until 3 years ago. Then Digital FPV brought crystal clear, noise free pictures. Which offers enough clarity to make dog fight and formation flights possible.

[@3dmonkeybizz]

@@motionsic Incredible! 💥

[@shable1436]

Watch FPV drone footage and races then, it will really blow your mind

[@Igeltod]

little History Lesson from me: First-Person-Vision (FPV) -Flight was done in the 90 too but miniature Cameras and Videotransmitters were hella expensive back then, ranging in about 2k$ for a Set. with the advent of cheap and tiny wireless Video surveillance Cameras, Keychain-cameras etc in the mid 2000 people started to hack these devices and put them on RC Planes. It was an incredible fun time until somewhere 2012 when all these Drones ruined it. But 2011 was when it all Peaked with Trappy recording and uploading his incredible Stunts and long distance or high altitude Records done by others.

[@marielizysurourcq]

FPV boomed with small drones around 2011, because frames were in carbon and so strong (still have mine of 2013 bought from a Canadian guy on RCgroups). You just had to buy lots of props since they were brittle as hell lol. Chinese competion for the real hype did the rest of lowering mass and volume of components.

[@getit9066]

Honestly, this is revolutionary. Easily the biggest jump in RC tech since proportional control hit the big time in the '70s. Cannot wait to set this up in my planes.

[@motionsic]

Looking forward to your F-14 setup! Still my most favorite jet of all time - F-5E follows closely behind. Both with classy, timeless lines!

[@blaster915]

Omg! I DREAMED of this view when flying RC planes as a kid and now here it is at last! I am in awe!

[@motionsic]

Great time to get back in the hobby😉

[@Darrylx444]

Beautiful landing. Amazing. More please! Notes: Wake turbulence is stronger from low-aspect ratio wing aircraft, such as that Raptor. The short wingspan allows more air to join the tip vortices at high AOA. Wake turbulence is strongest at low speed, when induced drag is highest. Go faster (if safe) for less effect. Weight affects it too, although I assume he isn't carrying excess weight for no reason.

[@motionsic]

Great insight on wake turbulence and tip vortices on interplay between aspect ratio, speed, AOA, and induced drag. So basically this flight was conducted with almost the worst conditions. I will have try this again with higher speeds for comparison. I suppose with high aspect wings, low wing loading on bipes, and most likely engine going wide open, WW 1 planes in dogfight Would be at the opposite end of the spectrum for effect of wake turbulence. So the adage should hold true! Thank you for the great lesson! I really appreciate it🙏😁. Now I need to try and find a WWI model.

[@Darrylx444]

@@motionsic WW1 would also be very cool to see, especially at larger scale. But pick a calm, zero-wind day if possible.

[@troyishii3931]

That dead stick landing was chefs kiss 🤌🏽

[@blitzkrieg459]

Crazy how technology has advanced. This definitely has a military application for combat drones.

[@baldskier5530]

I've always thought hobby RC was pretty lame, but this actually looks like something I could get into. A HEAD TRACKING GIMBAL!!?? Looks dope AF.

[@motionsic]

Yeah. Easy to implement to. Makes each RC plane dual use; can be flown conventionally or from the cockpit like flying a real plane!

[@DannyPachangaoficial]

@@motionsic plz make a video explaining how and how to start fast :P

[@simba00784]

I don’t get why people thjnk it’s lame. You literally get as close as possible to flying Jets and space crafts. In fact you can’t do this stuff in real Jets

[@Can-rv6qp]

@@simba00784 How is the latency with those head tracked cameras?

[@spinningsquare1325]

​@@simba00784this isn't as good as sim for some people

[@jasonck9635]

It’s insane how far RC planes have come , it looks so awesome

[@motionsic]

Indeed!

[@MrBgjbrok]

I can't find enough superlatives for this! What a phenomenal video of a fantastic (duo) flight.

[@motionsic]

Wow, thanks! Will share some more videos for your enjoyment.

[@brianbutcher7409]

that plane flys incredibly smooth, the weight must help keep it stable from light breezes or cross wind. Epic video bro!!

[@motionsic]

Thanks! The Viper 90 is indeed a versatile and stable airframe that does well even in wind. This video was taken when wind was nearly calm so it was very smooth.

[@Paul-th9es]

I think RC cars are a blast, but this is another level in the hobby. Too cool.

[@redwineisfine]

So glad youre uploading more content. Especially when you offer information on the 90mm Freewing thoughts .. great video

[@motionsic]

Thanks for the encouragement! I will try to do new things and offer useful findings to make new videos worthwhile for your attention. That’s my aim. Cheers!

[@mrwinston_thepug]

I grew up around this as my uncle was a big deal in rc planes selling them and decals for competition all over the world. I always had a issue seeing the direction I was flying so I was afraid to crash planes. Todays cameras are amazing and would of made my life easier. its not cheap to crash a $10k+ plane especially if youre the one building it. Great Video!!

[@motionsic]

The appeal nowadays is one can fly a high performance plane like this for far cheaper and literally no build time🙂

[@studentpilotlookinahh]

I never would've imagined seeing a video like this, so unique and fun! Now I feel like making a plane and flying it lol

[@jeffr3773]

so he's on the ground dlying it remote controlled? How is the camera moving around like he's in the vehicle?

[@studentpilotlookinahh]

@@jeffr3773 He has a FPV camera in the cockpit. idk what the camera is called exactly but he is wearing a headset that allows him to see through the camera in the airplane. And yes it is a remote controlled airplane which makes it so unique and fun!

[@TheLOL4DUDE]

It's nice to see how far we've come in the RC world. At first we were flying paper planes but now we build RC planes so big that we can actually fit in and fly it directly. What a time to be alive if you're an RC enthusiast

[@princemoore536]

BRO....thought i was watching ARMA ...for.like 3.sec,im so happy to have lived this long,to see nerds and enthusist out like this..GREAT JOB GUYS,love you all!

[@motionsic]

This is probably the most fun activity nerds love that appeals to everyone else, too😉

[@kath011]

Very Nice Rob! Very cool. And a great landing! 👍😊

[@motionsic]

Thanks Ken! Gotta watch out for “jet wash” when doing close formation😉

[@kath011]

😂

[@sonorousbelchpipe1021]

Beyond cool! Perfect flying and lighting conditions.

[@coctimusprime1872]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude I needed this in my life . One thing i wish i would have done in my life i still havent and probably wont is Actually learning to fly for real. Love my motorcycles and flying

[@mathieu525]

it must be really cool to fly an rc jet with head tracking

[@motionsic]

It is indeed, almost like being in the cockpit!

[@jessejamez707]

Lol I searched RC dogfight 😂😂 subscribed this is so awesome

[@motionsic]

Thanks for the sub, cheers!

[@tigerace351]

That was awesome! Great camera work keeping the bandit in sight, even on the landing. Speaking of landing, that was a perfect touchdown from a freestyle glide. Love the channel! 🤙

[@motionsic]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the encouragement!

[@sebbosebbo9794]

the cockpit camera movment looks so fluid...!?wow....

[@motionsic]

I use premium servos in my gimbal design and also excellent head-tracker: Motionsic BAG - BadAss Gimbal fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal Tally-ho Head-tracker fpvdogfight.com/products/tally-ho-head-tracker

[@allthingsunrelated2919]

This was super cool. Thanks - can’t wait to see the BB dogfight!

[@Skyhawk656]

When I was teen I had bought a mini camera with wireless, it was designed to plug into a coax line on a tv, my plan was to install it into a ducted fan A-10 I purchased. Plan never came to fruition I’m afraid, but I always dreamed of low level flight over the park and adjacent creek. Or envisioned a way to use drones to train pilots more cost effectively. Looks great having that vision actually in sight on KZbin today.

[@motionsic]

Yay! Glad to meet someone that had the same idea as I did. And thousands of people are now flying this way with their RC planes. It's very popular among full scale pilots since it's cost effective and low risk to fly aerobatics, formation and even dogfight that they don't normally get a chance to practice.

[@Kitkatwithaknife]

The entire way through I was asking myself "are these real planes or drones" great drones man they are some damn cool.

[@motionsic]

Thanks. I do try to fly as realistically as possible.

[@bleakambition495]

I’ve always wanted to have RC dogfights with working missiles and stuff, it would be such an interesting hobby

[@motionsic]

Looking forward to seeing you make it happen🙂

[@cavemantelly]

THIS IS THE COOLEST VIDEO THE TUBE HAS RECOMMENDED , AMAZING

[@motionsic]

Thanks, cheers!

[@clpr635]

Looks fun i was confused in the beginning thought this was a vr game 🤣

[@richardostroman8978]

Fascinating. A whole new experience for RC.

[@motionsic]

Indeed, the new perspective makes RC plane/vehicles dual use, both FPV and LOS. Makes formation flying and dogfights realistic. And opens up a whole new world of training material from full scale flying applicable!

[@Sanchuniathon384]

At first I thought, "Wow this VR game has great graphics! Oh it's real life RC, EVEN BETTTER!!"

[@majidalmahdhouri4027]

Adding mini rockets and bombs and gun for dogfight will increase the fun and enjoyment.. I hope to see such as that aircraft

[@imanassole9421]

🎵 Hyyyywaaay too the danja zone! 🎵 I know it would be really hard to pull off and probably really dangerous, but imagine scale missiles and guns for these bad boys! Hell even just like a laser tag system would be dope!

[@Jonathan-co6eh]

Now make missiles.

[@bugsy742]

Possibly THE most bodacious thing I’ve seen in a LONG while! 😃🤗🤘👍😎

[@motionsic]

Thanks for the encouragement. It’s not dangerous if following formation rules. Just a bunch of fun without risk to life and limb!

[@bugsy742]

@@motionsic 😆👍🤘 brilliant 🤝

[@gforce118118]

Cool to see the parallax in the sight!!

[@motionsic]

Huh? The point of using the Reflector sight is to correct for parallax - the reticle stays on target despite view angle change (from head movement). It’s parallax free🙂

[@Christian-yt3cm]

Great great great! The daylight was also fantastic! Many happy landings! Subscribed 😉

[@motionsic]

Thanks for watching and sub, cheers!

[@raphaeljapan5338]

incredible fly and skills, and incredible landscape, with a gorgeous fly view from sky..thanks from France

[@motionsic]

Thanks your for watching and the kind compliment. Cheers!

[@slicaltimistic1]

Radio Controlled aircraft on a next level mission. Amazing. Hope to see these on actual turbine kit mode. Keep on flying guys.

[@supererik123]

Dude…this was my first video ever….this was fucking AWESOME!!!!!!

[@motionsic]

Glad you liked it. More to come.

[@mreclectic3173]

That’s was cool ! Great landing 🛬

[@_J_0_k_e_r__12]

That must be an awesome experience, be in the jet but not for real, the tiny camera VR head tracking is awesome. Awesome video 👏

[@motionsic]

Thanks! The fun & thrill of flying a real aircraft but at a fraction of the cost and risk of flying inside a full scale plane.

[@JustEnoughRC]

Sweet landing brother!!!👍👍👍 very interesting video

[@motionsic]

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!

[@terryandrews3204]

I always enjoy seeing the views from above ❤

[@marumisu9560]

FPV is just the coolest thing in the world.

[@motionsic]

I agree🙂

[@ss-5553]

Very nice video , nice fly and smooth landing !

[@motionsic]

Thank you! Love making smooth landings, it’s half the fun of flying😁

[@NicOz42]

@@motionsic same, great landing

[@SS-hz4jo]

This was a fun video to watch. Thank you.

[@motionsic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@calvinevans8305]

This is wonderful. I want to get into RC planes. The f22 is the one I want and FPV is how I want to fly it.

[@motionsic]

Thanks! It takes time and experience to build up skill level to fly these. Be patient and start out with prop planes and work your way up. It would be more economical over the long run.

[@D3moknight]

That landing was like butter!

[@motionsic]

Thank you!

[@amyross2364]

And yet people say the dogfighting days are over❤

[@motionsic]

That might be true for war, but dogfighting for fun is just getting started😉

[@amyross2364]

@@motionsic yessir!

[@dylankyle-little7972]

Cant wait to get into this fpv stuff myself

[@zuberk8812]

Lol and I was like " Is this a game or not? CAN'T TELL! "

[@motionsic]

Of course it’s a game, an analog one!

[@grandmaster-grouch]

I’m so inspired. Thank you!

[@dadisthatyou2057]

Man I wish I could have a setup like this! Very cool, you should make a tutorial or sell a kit for people to build our own fpv jet!

[@motionsic]

I do sell a kit that allow experienced RC flyers to build their own FPV jet. It’s pretty easy actually. Look in the descriptions. Here are the FPV equipment I use: DJI Digital FPV Goggles: www.getfpv.com/dji-fpv-goggles-v2.html DJI Digital FPV Air unit fpvdogfight.com/products/dji-digital-fpv-air-unit-by-caddxfpv Motionsic BAG - BadAss Gimbal fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal Tally-ho Head-tracker fpvdogfight.com/products/tally-ho-head-tracker

[@MSDeliQuent]

Damn, this is how the wars should be done, a simple dogfight betwean drones

[@user-iz3gv7th6z]

Dude this was sick! We need some more footage of y'all just ripping it around the mountains.

[@shhhhsecrethaha]

Great flying and landing

[@motionsic]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed them!

[@MindRiderFPV]

The HUD is beyond belief. How did you do that?

[@motionsic]

Thanks! It’s a functional simplified miniature reflector sight scaled down from WW II originals with similar optics. See fig. 1: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflector_sight

[@nituldas9884]

such a beautiful sunset 😍

[@josephwright6076]

My goodness this is cool. Now I’m going down a rabbit hole

[@motionsic]

Worthy pursuit😁

[@avipatable]

Man your vids get better and better. Beautiful footage, and a great dead stick... I will have to try this FPV thing one day. :)

[@motionsic]

Thanks for the encouragement! I took a full scale glider flight this past summer. It’s amazing how similar my FPV flying, especially dead-stick landing, is to that flight. I think I will show that footage next😉

[@avipatable]

@@motionsic That is really cool to hear how similar it feels. I remember how realistic your FPV flight of the Avios Spitfire looked - flying realistic turns when seeing from the cockpit. I will get into this for sure one day, but small children and many hours at work mean I'll have to stick my small models for now... But seeing yours and others videos keep me motivated!

[@motionsic]

@@avipatable hear, hear! I took a 18 year break from flying RC for the same reasons. Your time will come. Respect for getting your priorities straight!

[@avipatable]

@@motionsic Thank you, yes you know the story! :) Channels like yours and RCScaleairplanes, and the RC Scalebuilders website keep me going for now... a 1/4 scale Jerry Bates Hawker Tempest is the dream one day!

[@arobyte]

I don't think my child brain would have been able to process how fun this looks. My adult brain is still struggling!!!

[@motionsic]

Then we have done something right. It’s for the child or teenager that grew up with original Top Gun as their favorite movie🙂

[@jordanmascarenhas7974]

Fantastic video! Subscribed!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@voizek]

my left ear really enjoyed this

[@motionsic]

Duly noted😉

[@judevector]

Just seeing this now after it popped up in my feed ,and am glad it did just followed immediately,so much awesome content 😌

[@motionsic]

Thanks for your interest and sub, cheers!

[@scubaaddict]

awesome video. love the FPV

[@AngryPenguin22]

that afterburner looks amazing. id love to get into this one day

[@propabilityfpv]

This is so cool! Love that gunsight 👍

[@motionsic]

Thanks! Me too!

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

Beautiful.

[@TRITONFPV]

Thanks for the ride along. New Sub 🤙🏻

[@Mike9201984]

This is so cool and great camera work!

[@plixplop]

The actually physical HUD is 1000x cooler than any graphic you could overlay on the FPV image

[@motionsic]

I agree🙂

[@prohunter717]

This seems like a lot of fun.

[@motionsic]

Indeed it is fun flying with friends in collaborative play!

[@SummerCrowfpv]

Awesome video …fantastic landing..love the HUD

[@motionsic]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@neongirl]

Mankind expects many more wars, but I would like them to be fought in this way in the future. And at the end of the battle, the losing side pays for all the knocked out RC, lol.

[@motionsic]

Hear, hear! May the best dogfighter win!

[@thed4974]

If this is homemade, Imagine what the governments must have in secret.

[@motionsic]

Yep! Agree with your assessment. They lead this by a couple of decades.

[@bando1054]

Probably Alien SpaceShip RC’s

[@TheMopedraser]

Landing was pure butter!

[@motionsic]

Thanks. I love the landing, too!

[@christophertibbetts2458]

Dude that is so freaking cool

[@klxmaster14]

Great flying!

[@motionsic]

Thank you!

[@titanium_viper5049]

My dumbass thought this was a video game. And I was like "Holy fucking shit!!! Does he have a fricken 4090 or something!?"

[@motionsic]

4090? What’s that?

[@titanium_viper5049]

@@motionsic The most powerful graphic cards you can buy for your PC. It can render 4K at high frame rates. so logically if you want a 'game' to look like reality you would need a crazy graphics card that costs about $16000.

[@shirolee]

Hell yes!!! This is so badass!!!!!

[@JonHuhnMedical]

Very cool! Imagine what this would feel like piped through stereoscopic vr headsets!

[@motionsic]

That would be rad!

[@hopetagulos]

Este simulador me fez sonhar num voo mental entre as nuvens com brisa. Grato pelo vídeo.

[@hopetagulos]

@jessemathis9212 simulating: airmodel with camera. I meant in my language

[@tsunami6253]

Great landing, the pan and especially the tilt really made the difference to the flare the plane in FPV. By chance do you have a video of you working on the cockpit/canopy? I asked another KZbinr who does similar work and still waiting for a posting. Hope you will share the info. Keep flying!!

[@motionsic]

The canopy on the Viper which I flew was removed for image clarity. Stock canopy is not clear enough and has plenty of distortion. The pan and tilt gimbal is something I developed for ease of installation. A few screws to affix camera and secure to the cockpit floor that’s it! Takes about 20 minutes. You can see some detailed pictures here: fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal

[@tsunami6253]

@@motionsic Great!! Thanks for the info and link. 👍

[@Fastbikkel]

Fun, we need more of this.

[@decepticon219]

my left ear really enjoyed your commentary

[@motionsic]

Lol, Will try stereo next time.

[@leosss5112]

not far till rc sun orbital stikes become a thing

[@shufflecat3334]

Didn't read the title or description before starting to watch. I spent way too long trying to figure out if this was a simulator, it looked so real! Then I noticed the scale of nearby objects...

[@jehovani5956]

wow everything i see is showing me that i should learn to fly. this is so damn cool.

[@motionsic]

There’s a severe shortage of pilots now in the USA. So pretty good career prospect if one becomes a pilot🙂

[@jehovani5956]

@@motionsic Ill keep that in mind.

[@uniquesensitivesnowflake7366]

This is should be in the olympics or there must be a world championship for this

[@blai.arabia4238]

some of this "wake turbulences" were partially made from the wash jet but most of those were made from the wing tip vortices most likely

[@motionsic]

I agree!

[@kyanoang3l0_old]

It would be cool if there's an augmented reality game for this, where your targets are virtual.

[@floridakid7975]

This was such a cool video wow you’ve sparked my long lost rc hobby

[@danisahumanable]

Fantastic flying

[@motionsic]

Thank you, cheers!

[@thecensoredchef3272]

awesome video!

[@motionsic]

Thanks!

[@TheCCBoi]

Just admit it, this isn’t an RC. you actually put a tiny hamster pilot in there.

[@motionsic]

Dang it, you figured it out. It was a deft hamster all along...

[@kjbaran]

Too cool! Awesome landing. Super jealous

[@motionsic]

Lol. Don’t get jealous , get even🙂