A quick video talking about the Guzzi after the first 6000 miles of ownership
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@jamesfairmind2247 Жыл бұрын
If you want 10 BHP more just dump the CAT and the front downpipes which have CAT material a long way up them. Much more important than simply adding a new can. Then open the air-box up a bit and add a K%N or DNA filter. That along with an upflash will give you at least 10 BHP more.
@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui3 жыл бұрын
Needs a clean Nathan! And I’ll send you a box of stainless steel washers! But a great real world catch up.👍
@munta19673 жыл бұрын
but the V85TT will have more character than the others mentioned and that will endear it more to peeps like me :D and i have had a new 2014 1000 vstrom (which i rid to Barcelona) and a new 2018 R1200GS 'Rallye' and found them brill bikes, but had no real character/foibles for me, too perfect to love long term lol :D thats why at present I am riding a RE Himalayan and love it, full of character and old school...but a new Guzzi? deffo next year for being individual and for living with their old Agricultural loving ways :)
@raymondconnor53463 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews they are on point, honest and informative. Had a Guzzi 1200 sport could look at it all day long but was a bit of a let down in the ownership dept, discs warped within 1,000 miles and dash filled with rain water not much later . But do agree love the look of this model
@simonthomas53672 жыл бұрын
One of the most useful reviews on this bike that I've seen, thanks! Its definitely still on my list, just for the looks and character, but I'm also tempted with a 2018 or earlier Africa Twin......
@seethebutter3 жыл бұрын
I've ridden a VStrom 650 and own an 850TT, no comparison in power for me. 850 way better. Hmmm
@JeremyKroeker3 жыл бұрын
Great review, Nathan. I could listen to you talk about bikes all day.
@HippoDrones3 жыл бұрын
Your points were pretty much 100% re this bike. I love my V85, but the buffeting is terrible, and the dash def could be better... but the KTM dash is far worse IMO. I'd like a lighter bike, but enjoy riding mine whenever I throw a leg over it.
@Llamaman83 жыл бұрын
Fit an MRI, and the buffeting dissappears.. I'm 6'2"
@HippoDrones3 жыл бұрын
@@Llamaman8 I have replaced my screen with a low one from Powerbronze, all sorted now 🙂
@dungspreader3 жыл бұрын
Red is better . You either like Guzzis or you don't .I don't think there is a middle ground . Air cooling , shaft drive , comfortable riding position make it a good long distance proposition with minimal maintenance . Not a bike for performance freaks .
@gb936693 жыл бұрын
I think you're exactly right; love them or you don't. I have owned both, a Guzzi and several Ducatis. My conundrum is that I love the Guzzi for all the reasons Guzzi lovers do, but I am concerned that I'll regret the lack of power and suspension adjustability if I choose it over the Ducati V4 Multistrada. Way less money for the Guzzi ,and although neither brand has a dealership anywhere near me in Colorado, I could do the simple maintenance on the Guzzi being that it is so much simpler to maintain. I've never had troubles with either make. A very tough decision. I'm going to deliberately put it off to think some more. lol
@dungspreader3 жыл бұрын
@@gb93669 . What if Guzzi made a 1200cc bike with about 130 hp on tap ?
@gb936693 жыл бұрын
@@dungspreader 130 hp and electronic suspension adjustments with an imu....SOLD!
@caroldave40373 жыл бұрын
Big guzzi fan had them in the past but I plumbed for 1050xt vstrom which is amazing value etc ...himalayan for off road and back roads a jem...good honest review brill ..
@splodge57143 жыл бұрын
A good in depth review. I like a basic bike but most important, it has to be reliable. Hard to beat the Japanese. Africa Twin?
@JoshuaTootell3 жыл бұрын
Was seriously considering this one, but reading the thread on ADV Rider reminded me of people talking about their Buell's. I had a Buell, I don't want that experience again. Ill take bland and boring riding over "these bolts rattle loose" and "it could be leaking oil from" while sitting in the garage.
@neilanderson23743 ай бұрын
Have you tried the v7? It’s also on my First big bike list
@abhayvadhavkar22312 жыл бұрын
I have an F850GS and I love it. At the time, the Guzzi did not have cruise control nor tubeless tires so it fell off the list. It does now so today, I might have seriously considered the Goose.
@MultiVogon3 жыл бұрын
I like them FOR their [ comparative ] simplicity. I didn't want electro-this and adjustable-that, just wanted a solid 'basic' bike. I do have the tall screen with a stupid spoiler added and I don't like the look but I do like the lack of buffeting now ;-) . I believe the riding modes tweak traction control too (less in offroad, more in rain). Like you, I love the cruise control on it too :-)
@RoddersAKADahDit3 жыл бұрын
Have you had the bike in for the map updates to the engine? Riding my 2019 model back to exchange it for the new 2021, I realised it had been transformed from the model I originally bought. It's much more spirited. Not a 1000cc I admit, but it's woken up.
@JoshuaTootell3 жыл бұрын
Power and weight numbers sound similar to the mid 80's Nighthawk I had about 15 years ago. Never felt unpowered, but more would have been welcomed.
@kirkwilson51173 жыл бұрын
Right, I get what you mean. I felt the same when I rode a 2008 Thruxton at Triumph open house .. I went away thinking my 1984 Nighthawk 700 had more go in it at the time.
@jimmarshall8073 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the new 850 V7? Same size engine (albeit lower power), less weight, roadster style .... just wondering!
@stifflerjj411 ай бұрын
What was the side boxes called?
@ralfweimar18693 жыл бұрын
Hello Nathan, honest review, well done! :-) I can confirm all your comments, due to I've rented and spend my New Zealand trip (6000 km in total) beginning of 2020 with exactly the same V85TT. I just Would like to highlight that the brakes are working very well, too. Very much fun, easy and comfy to ride this bike on long distance, twisties (handling and chassis is great, too) and on some gravel roads. Just need 10 horses more ;-) Cheers
@charliechance85893 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy hearing about your collection of bikes....thanks.
@deanroberts20213 жыл бұрын
Great video , If you have an alternative choice of transport the Guzzi would be an ok choice I wouldn't buy one as my only transport. I used a Ducati Multistrada as my only transport for 3 years & I'd guess it was reliable about 10 months out of every 12 & off the road broke or being repaired for around 2 months of every year & winter destroyed the engine paint & wreaked havoc with the electrics . Reliability & build quality was the main reason I bought my vstrom 1050 Japanese bikes are just better built in my opinion.
@paulweatherly32223 жыл бұрын
Mine is my only form of transport. 13500 miles since February last year. Totally reliable. Couple of little niggles but nothing that was really an issue.
@deanroberts20213 жыл бұрын
@@paulweatherly3222 Not saying a Guzzi can't be used daily but will require more care to keep in good condition & without extra care after a few years will suffer, my local Guzzi dealers test bike had been looked after but already started looking rough after less than a year, if you live in a big city where less road salt is used or do less miles in winter Italian bikes are ok Ducati didn't seem to bad initially just niggles & parts order waits/dealer availability waits after a winter or 2 engine paint gave up electrics started corroding & had more & more problems . Love the Ducati but I should never of used it through winter wish I'd bought a winter hack & would recommend you do to if you ride through winter
@leehenty37773 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a few stainless cap screws and washers for those ram mounts
@spadaspares Жыл бұрын
A bit late in comments, but cheap servicing, easy to get at service parts, like valves. Reminds me of my old GS1100. Same type of handling and the 2023 Guzzi is a bit sharper on the throttle. Id buy one in a heartbeat but got to comes to terms with selling my 2017 DCT Africa Twin.
@adaptableadventurerider Жыл бұрын
Just been re visiting this review Nathan pretty interesting both our ktm 390s went back under rejection at less than 300 miles so wound up getting a 1200 GS Rallye on an 18 plate pick it up next week, had the 1200gsa in the past so should be interesting.
@gureno192 жыл бұрын
Its such a classic looking bike in my opinion, will age really well
@TWRider3 жыл бұрын
can you post link to the engine guards?
@Geshmaal2 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to argue for this bike Vs a V-Strom 1050 on paper. It's a similar weight but less power for basically the same price! The difference is basically the charm of the air cooled longitudinal V-twin.
@TheTuxMaster3 жыл бұрын
Just got home with my -20 Brand new V85TT Traveler. Still do not understand any of the "computer" for instruments, lack the simplicity of my old 1150GS, which is still at home;). Sat very well, the height of the handlebars worked immediately, I am 1.80cm 6 "approximately. Missing the C-support, however, will come at the first service. Took a while to get a grip on the gear, and the indicator is stupid! And as you pointed out, it lacks in horsepower. However, do not think it will affect my ride, drive 95% asphalt and the rest is gravel. Was a long time ago I was out on "adventure". Nice bike, I must say. Mine is "sand-colored", gray with a red stripe, I should say. However, I am very skeptical of the boxes they send with, I think it's Givi, tried that brand before, I will give you £ 100 if you pick them up;).
@gilvietor19183 жыл бұрын
My Ducati Multi 950s the stock windscreen made a horrible buffeting noise, I got the Tourtech one, and it is better. Still buffets but sheesh not nearly as bad.
@dcbaxter3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Have a great weekend.
@mattbryonphoto23572 жыл бұрын
Bro tighten your sump bolts, that oil leak you got there is a result of most of these bikes coming with loose bolts everywhere. service you can do in your sleep, valve check is also super easy, save that cash from the dealer rip off
@skaraborgcraft3 жыл бұрын
Its just a big Himalayan, in the fact that it is what it is. You can either except its short comings or buy a more expensive option. Not many bikes could not do with "just another 10hp"........do you really need 160hp through one tyre? Nice review, just checking in after the BS6 review.......hope that holds up as well, the tank frames were changed for better stand up ergonomics. But if the cant carry anything, why bother?
@ronboe63253 жыл бұрын
I've had two Guzzi's (Quota, Griso) and service is dang easy to do (valves, oil change - inspect the rest, perhaps bleed the brakes - which I'm tempted to pay to have done!). So I'm a bit surprised you don't do that in house.
@nathanthepostman3 жыл бұрын
To retain the warranty primarily
@ronboe63253 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Ah, in the US we have a law that says we can do our own maintenance and keep the warranty.
@mart74043 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight Nathan. I just got a new 21 V85TT and so far so good. Windscreen is crap as you noted. Hard decision between the MG and a used Africa Twin. Ended up with the MG for pretty much your same reasons. Now to get it ready for some travel. cheers mate
@davidgent20813 жыл бұрын
Great straight forward review and I agree with each point Nathan. The Guzzi is very competent for what it's meant to do, good value and that great quirkiness factor that can't be quantified...you just like being a bit different or you get a GS. Agree with Steve that Left Coast US makes getting parts tricky but mine is slowly getting set up for some long summer tours. Euro / Brit aftermarket options are much better than in the US. Which tool box piece is on your bike? It looks snugged in quite nicely. Thanks for your help in keeping us informed!
@themassofmen2 жыл бұрын
I regularly apply FS365 which keeps corrosion at bay. An interesting bike that I am planning to test ride. Many things that you have highlighted with these three videos that are real life issues.
@aussie154611 ай бұрын
front mudguard, where di you get it? Please mate
@nathanthepostman11 ай бұрын
It's off the aprilia caponord rally. It bolts straight on
@aussie154611 ай бұрын
u d man!!!@@nathanthepostman
@stevetaylor86983 жыл бұрын
Just about every bike I have owned - and over the last 45 years that's a lot, has lost its laquer on aluminium castings.
@1990-t1j3 жыл бұрын
I like this bike, and the new model has cross-spoke wheels. Bit heavy all togged up but not so bad if that figure you quote is with a full tank. Looks really good. Real character.
@unounv Жыл бұрын
What seat is it ? How would you compare its comfort to the stock seat?
@paulbrook24593 жыл бұрын
Always honest reviews Nathan, I think I’m really happy I didn’t get one 👍I do like the look of then though
@moorehen13 жыл бұрын
As thorough a review as ever Nathan, you should do it professionally!😂 Love the little anecdotes, ‘police cruiser’! Not sure I’ll be making that offer for it now though when you’re ready to sell🙁
@MrPerrogaton3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of that handlebar risers? Will it fit better for a 6 feet tall guy? Thanks a lot!
@villiamo38613 жыл бұрын
Really good review. Thanks.
@firestorm7553 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a really rusty exhaust system for a new ish bike
@gastramp3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering why you didn't consider the Super Tenere? Cruise, shaft and bulletproof.
@sv650nyc73 жыл бұрын
I have ridden one, and it's probably the most boring bike I've ever been on.
@themoog38893 жыл бұрын
Moto Guzzis for me are like Alfa Romeo cars , love them but wouldn't buy one ! Just bought 2nd 650 Versys a much under rated bike and sometimes dismissed as a commuter but a great bike ! A refreshing change to see warts and all reviews 👍
@davidlambert50083 жыл бұрын
Same as you i sold my r1250gs to save a bit money and I bought this v85tt travel last summer 2 very different bikes but still makes me happy every time I'm riding it but if i could i would definitely go back to the gs 1250 for the same price you can find a 2019 around 13k maybe next years
@andybcole3 жыл бұрын
I followed your path David, GSA to Guzzi and now back to GSA, you realise what you’re missing after a while
@bav1143 жыл бұрын
PG Tips!! Legend 👍🏻 Great honest review.
@Alex-io6ky2 жыл бұрын
good review
@trackstumper83332 жыл бұрын
Good down to earth review mate!
@andyrussell28733 жыл бұрын
Great interesting review straight to the point.
@ThatGermanFella3 жыл бұрын
But does the GS have the Soul of a Guzzi?
@dungspreader3 жыл бұрын
No.
@generalt10903 жыл бұрын
Great honest review!!!
@SteveJohnson-sn9gq3 жыл бұрын
Parts are hard to get in California, over two months and nothing yet.
@itnoked Жыл бұрын
What parts are you waiting for? I’m in Cali and considering this bike for a pacific coast trip to Vancouver
@claretbuck18823 жыл бұрын
Awesome bud cheers 👍🏻
@mar0364 Жыл бұрын
Do you still own the Guzzi?
@nathanthepostman Жыл бұрын
No I traded it in for a Moto Morini X-Cape 650 back in April
@TheHonarable12 жыл бұрын
Great review! May I ask why add the extra fender in the front?
@nathanthepostman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks honarable. It's a common modification to try and prevent the front of the engine getting covered in road grime. It's the mudguard off of an aprilia caponord but to be honest it didn't really work.
@TheHonarable12 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Thx for the explanation!
@angusrodger64073 жыл бұрын
Shorter screen works for me , try it.
@grahamwright84473 жыл бұрын
Hi , I find that for my height , I get a lot of noise / buffeting, but if I lift myself up a couple of inches , much improved. I have the smaller of the two original screens and looking for an alternative to improve things . What make “shorter” screen do you have please ?
@angusrodger64073 жыл бұрын
@@grahamwright8447 hi short screen from Powerbronze worked for me.
@sv650nyc73 жыл бұрын
Reviews like yours from owners who have actually ridden their bikes a considerable distance are always by far the most valuable on KZbin. Kudos to you for giving us this video. I heard from another long-term reviewer that his bike was burning a lot of oil (enough to have to check the level at every fuelling stop). Is that not an issue with your bike?
@mattbryonphoto23572 жыл бұрын
I have one 11000 kms, doesn’t burn oil at all. Most of these bikes came with loose sump bolts, which I tightened all of them as soon as I noticed it.. I’d suggest that guy who is burning oil hasn’t checked the sump bolts and that where he’s losing oil.
@MrKdr5003 жыл бұрын
I traded an Africa twin Adventure sports in on a V85 with zero regrets..... De-cat pipe and a remap really bring the engine to life.
@davidbesant3 жыл бұрын
Yeh, you definitely have to do that. The euro5 mods ruin the engine. I think Guzzi have been dishonest selling it in the form they do 'cos the engine just doesn't work in standard trim.
@SouravAcharya94443 жыл бұрын
air cooling dam not for me
@dazzer42203 жыл бұрын
Think I am with you Nathan and would go for a used 1200gs ....It's a proven bike and just more refined. Buying from a main dealer you also get the 2yrs warranty and breakdown cover so it's comparable to buying a new bike from other manufacturers.
@davidspin53532 жыл бұрын
Really want to love the bike, needs a 100 horse power, absolute minimum here in the US.
@fatboysflstbs3 жыл бұрын
Don’t use off road tyres on Tarmac especially wet tarmac.