Moto-Gymkhana: Quick Rotation Turn Technique Progress

[@_desertork1839]

There aren't that many tutorials in english for gymkhana so it was a surprise to see your video, really easy to understand too congrats.

[@wadeblake3451]

Some very key points identified. Specifically, the need for sufficient speed to lean sufficiently. I will practice with increased speed during the rotation. Much appreciated.

[@Senshudan]

Helpful vid! pointing out what went wrong on misses is key! Best vid Ive seen for tight cornering...

[@apexseeker3821]

One is f the most clearly explained videos I’ve seen. Greatly appreciated. I’m inspired to get out and practice.

[@Crisisbiker]

Nice video that demonstrates the importance of having sufficient speed to allow the bike to lean. I'll give this a try!

[@EvendimataE]

how about setting the idle spped high and just apply brake when entering, would that work? im having a hard time controlling the trottle when turning...LOL

[@WillfulThinker]

Absolutely, raising the idle can be a big help. Also, preloading some throttle and feathering the clutch for speed control can be more effective if your clutch is less touchy than your throttle.

[@renostubbs8504]

ME: practice, practice and more practice! Awesome video bro

[@Alessandro.Garzya]

When the speed increases is possibile to use countersteering to maintain or add lean angle ? Thanks

[@WillfulThinker]

Not really. Countersteering by pressing on the bars in this situation doesn't really make sense, since the bars are at full lock when you are going around the circle. E.g., for a clockwise turn, the bars are turned all the way to the right steering stop. Countersteering, as in press right to turn right, would take the bars out of full lock, so that's not going to work. In a wider turn, however, you could countersteer by pressing on the bars with or without counterbalancing by shifting your body. Some riders do that more than others, depending on their style. Be careful not to push the bike down beneath you too much and lose grip. Cheers!

[@Alessandro.Garzya]

@@WillfulThinker Ok, but if the bike start to go out of the circle track because of the speed, this could be moderate by using rear break and countersteering? Thanks

[@ClayLoyd]

Great riding!

[@RobertBardos]

Excellent video I will use this in my next practice

[@mariohanzek712]

What would be the recommended tire pressure for moto gymkhana training?

[@WillfulThinker]

@mariohanzek712 Optimal pressure will vary based on the particular bike, tires and suspension setup. For that GSXR in the video, I think I took the tires down to 32 psi front and rear.

[@prfm_setya95]

Felt that progress too dude!, Nice progress!

[@88swordmaster]

nice vid and tips, thank you

[@MarcosMotoJourney]

Nice video! Congratulations on building the skills. If you don’t mind me asking what’s the average minimum speed to allow sufficient leaning? Also did you make use of the clutch? Thanks in advance!

[@WillfulThinker]

Thanks a lot. Work in progress. I actually gave up riding completely, earlier this year. Now I can't remember the minimum speed I had to go to make that inner circle. Maybe 8 mph, but it's going to vary based on the bike anyway. I did not use clutch at all. Just throttle and rear brake. On some bikes, feathering the clutch will be necessary at stock idle. It wasn't necessary on that GSXR, but I did have my idle turned up about 300 rpm above the stock setting to make those maneuvers smoother. Ride safe!

[@shawnmclean7932]

From my experience on a R3, 7-8 mph minimum.

[@andrej.babichev]

А до каких пор надо тренироваться? Пока не упадёшь?

[@Eltee127]

Great Points! Another one " LOOK AT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO!!! I can tell from your head that you're not gonna make those turns. You dont need a whole lot of speed and counterbalance for this, just cover the rear brake and "TURN YOUR HEAD!!

[@zf22raptor]

Great info keep it up 👍

[@anakletor]

Very helpful!

[@counselhan7437]

Why did you give up riding :(

[@adminjava1]

What gear were you in? Thanks.

[@WillfulThinker]

First gear. I had the idle turned up about 300 rpm above the stock setting to make the full-lock turn smoother without use of the clutch. Ride safe!

[@davidnoob9421]

are you using stock clip ons? great riding!

[@WillfulThinker]

Thanks for the comment. Aftermarket clipons with risers, about 1" or 2" higher than stock. Can't remember exactly.

[@gladiatorjoker4059]

How fast did you go on the circle

[@WillfulThinker]

Hmm, if I remember correctly, about 8-10 mph inside the circle.

[@bedinh09]

IS that first gear or second ?

[@WillfulThinker]

First gear all the way.

[@nightwishcoca]

I did something similar with a cbr600rr: let go all the clutch, speed at engine's minimum, and look far away in the direction you want. Don't touch the brakes! And, the cones don't exist, they are only a distraction. You know where to go

[@Keyser_Soze739]

The cones don’t exist??? I can see them clearly! One red and one blue.

[@nightwishcoca]

@@Keyser_Soze739 they dont exist for me, I dont focus them when I do the exercise

[@Keyser_Soze739]

@@nightwishcoca 😉

[@elobiretv]

Nothing wrong with using the rear brake when doing this. Helps to keep the bike stable.

[@momohue6432]

Cool...

[@Krejza82]

Great work. Now, leave that counterbalancing part behind, focus on gas, rear brake, smoothness and then keep your body aligned with the bike like you did your right hand turns form 2:25 to 2:45.

[@Lemon83166]

While you're doing that might as well put your knee down too aye.

[@joelynn2874]

Everybody's like a good job dude great job........ What the hell man , going to end up under a truck stop KZbin instruction videos

[@nicolasbustos9686]

decent maniobrability for a sport, however only heavy bikes can really do rodeo. it will be nice to practice on one of this after the harley.

[@zagrosbagheri4905]

Hohohohoh thanks

[@joelynn2874]

The clutch should be slightly engaged speed stands a bike up it does not cause it to learn.

[@MR26577]

Try to lean when you slowing..

[@andrej.babichev]

Нифига не понятно, но интересно. И вообще-то круг должен быть 5 метров

[@94pokpok]

are people really putting bags on racers now? XDDD

[@joelynn2874]

You're giving advice and I think you're wrong. Slow speed tight turns are correctly accomplished using your clutch with a slight pressure in your rear break.

[@WillfulThinker]

Whether or not to use the clutch depends on the bike, the RPMs at idle, and whether you are trying to go slow or fast in a full-lock turn. If the goal is to go as slow as possible, then by all means feather the clutch. Since the goal in gymkhana is to go as fast as possible, a lot of riders raise the bike's idle RPMs to eliminate the need to feather the clutch, as with the RPMs up, there is no fear of the bike dying mid-turn. The context of this video is racing against the clock, as opposed to taking the DMV test where the goal is to keep the speed down and show control. Your advice applies in the latter, not the former. My advice applies in the former, not the latter. Your advice is correct in a different scenario than the one presented in the video. In my gymkhana clinics for beginners riding normal bikes, I would tell each rider that they may need to feather the clutch if the motor is bogging.

[@joelynn2874]

@@WillfulThinker I'm not going to argue with you about this s*** believe whatever you want dude I don't give a f*** just don't be posting s*** on here especially about safety motorcycle safety when you don't understand what you are saying , of course there's a time to use your clutch and a time not to use your clutch that goes without saying there's a lot of kids that want to get on bikes and start riding they KZbin for information make sure you're giving out the right information . You should know for yourself take a course talk to a professional listen to people on KZbin will get you ran under a truck.