Beginner Riders Believe Those 7 Myths about Motorcycles!

[@whollymindless]

"If dumping the bike is such an alpha move, how come that nobody practices it?" - the laughter hurts.

[@rueda-roja]

“Free tattoo removal” cracked me up 😂

[@bluebottle1988]

That cop hiding on a turn... absolute recipe for a disaster 🤣

[@judyschiavone7866]

I've been riding 6 months, I didn't believe all of those...but took me a while to get over my fear of the front brake. Your practice Videos really helped with that.

[@rabbychan]

I'd rather use the front break, the rear makes my tyre slip too soon.

[@goranmajnaric556]

Well, as i new rider, what i realised, that you actualy cant brake [like emrgency braking] while mid corner, but still you can slow down, or kind of fast slow down, which is still slower then a car who can slam the brake with abs mid corner. Also thing that is hard is when you stop your bike mid corner it cant be leaned because its gooing to fall, and if you make it streight you will start gooing in direction off track. I guess you can practice this to make it all right, but it is still a hard and risky manuver. So what you can do is to predict and avoid situations that may put you in that kind of situation.

[@petebusch9069]

Scotty Kilmer spreads a lot of false information.

[@233kosta]

He's right about one thing though - BMWs _are_ an endless money pit 🤣

[@sCiphre]

When I don't wear full gear for whatever reason I often kick or bump my knee on something on the bike. It hurts like hell and I've no idea why anyone would want to do that (+ get hit by debris or insects) without a really solid reason. I love my motorcycle pants, super comfy and protective for several activities.

[@BioFake1]

I love your tackle to Fortnine. Well deserved !

[@512Chaos]

Sort of, the clip that was taken from was that he reduced the armor in favor of an airbag setup.

[@G30rg31415]

@@512Chaos It wasn't about airbag set up

[@Wobblywiener]

Not really, that video was specifically about impact protectors. Data shows they're relatively ineffective at doing what they say on the tin... protecting from impacts. They offer abrasion resistance, but so do your outer layers. To the same or higher standard. Ryan was making the point that they should be held to a higher standard, there exists gear that DOES offer decent protection, but it's far from the norm. Disappointed to see the jab in this video.

[@SimSimon87]

@@Wobblywiener an impact protector can make the difference between a fractured bone and no fractured bone at low speeds as well as a fractured bone and one that's shattered into hundreds of pieces at high speeds... But I agree that most of the protectors you find in motorcycle jeans and jackets are utter sh*t, even though they cost a small fortune.

[@karine606]

Hey. If that old guy is going to throw his classic Triumph down the road, he should give it to me. I'll look after it.

[@onabikewithadrone]

3:40 I currently reside in the Netherlands. During the closed course part of the exam there is an "emergency braking" exercise. The goal is to drive 50 until the cones and then to brake as hard as possible. The track distance for the breaking is 17 meters, but that does not mean that you're allowed to use all of it. In my experience, Honda CBF600 breaks (with ABS engagement) easily within 6-8 meters. Anyone's telling that bike sliding on asphalt is safer or stops faster than just powerful breaking has clearly never tried to brake...

[@F3udF1st]

*brake

[@onabikewithadrone]

@@F3udF1st fixed :)

[@nonyabusiness4151]

​@@F3udF1st Clearly autocorrect.

[@233kosta]

@@onabikewithadrone In the DPRB they call it module 1 (or mod 1). There's a bunch of other stuff to do as well, but the emergency stop is on that list.

[@aussiebloke609]

This video was so long I got tired of holding my laptop. _So I had to lay 'er down._ 😁😁😁

[@RollWithSoul317]

I believe that a level of fear comes with learning to ride or drive the first few times. It’s like the first time our parents or whoever first took off the training wheels of our bicycles when we were kids and tried to get us to ride on our own. We were shaky at the beginning but once the fear began to dissipate and we learned to balance and control, we gained confidence, and with “practice” and guidance (teaching), we got better. As adults we have learned that the only thing to fear is fear itself. Constant learning and practicing (the right way of course) will help to mitigate the fear in my opinion. This video is spot on as it pertains to the many myths and misinformation that are circulating about motorcycling. Awesome! 👏 😎🇺🇸✌️👍

[@itaymitra1030]

So much fun seeing the video,,love your jokes......

[@gregallen5757]

Riding in rain after a long dry spell is sketchy due to the oil left behind by cars.

[@peterv3429]

Which is why you take a 30min coffee break and then can continue pretty safely :)

[@GasBikes2023-jj5is]

Good work as usual. I learn a lot from watching your videos. Some times it just reinforces what I know but some of it is new, like braking in corners. I rode a lot of dirt bikes and corner braking was something you avoided. Now I practice trail braking whenever I can. Thanks. I got my MC licence when I was 16, it is now 50 years that I've had my licence. I haven't always had a bike for those years but I have much more experience than many. As with most things, when people tell they know it all, they are usually full of themselves and other nasty stuff. Always room to learn more.

[@KlapciuKr]

Moto Control, you're f.... ing the best😂😂😂

[@h.d.h]

I mean...Scotty does sound like he's joking Normally he has terrible takes, though.

[@MotoControlEn]

Maybe!

[@ariesmarsexpress]

I almost always use both brakes including in corners. The only time I don't use both brakes is in the last few feet of a stop or in a tight, slow turn. I will say that from my perspective braking on a motorcycle is much better than cars when you take into account the reaction time of the drivers. I am fully capable in a normal stop of stopping much faster than the car behind me because it takes them a few moments to realize that I am going to stop. I always apply my brake lights, long before I apply any real force to the brakes so that they know that I am about to stop or they will likely run over me. This is less physics and more psychology.

[@ghollidge]

A wet road is fine, its greasy one which I find being slippy

[@nonyabusiness4151]

In the Netherlands, they use red asphalt in certain spots. It's as slippery as slush. Can't believe it's legal.

[@rienkhoek4169]

It is often hard to tell the difference until it is too late.

[@rutukedarbhagwat1746]

​@@nonyabusiness4151isn't that for cycles;atleast in my country

[@nonyabusiness4151]

@rutukedarbhagwat1746 They use them at intersections, too. Also, you still have to cross the bicycle path.

[@Jason-co9ep]

I don't want to ride in the rain because I hate having to wash my motorcycle afterwards. 😜

[@sonnyday6830]

I ride a 20hp bike and have no issues keeping up with traffic on highways, but our max allowed speed is only 100kph

[@sebastian_olthuis]

I first thought you meant pushing away your bike while already siding, because it's normally not smart to hold on and risk your own bike hunting you. I legit didn't know this was a thing and am baffled by the fighter Jett ejection method 😂.

[@aussiebloke609]

12:55 I think the myth of needing a powerful bike for "safety reasons" probably goes back to when small capacity bikes really did have trouble keeping up with the flow of traffic. When I learned to ride in Australia, we were limited to 250cc - and back then, a 250 4-stroke could just about manage 60-65 mph (100 to 105-ish km/h) on flat ground with no headwind and held at WOT for about 5 minutes. They really were dangerously underpowered in traffic. Of course, one could get a 2-stroke 250, but their peaky power bands in the day meant they weren't suited for a true beginner. These days, a bike that small doesn't have any particular trouble keeping up, but I can recall holding the throttle wide open for minutes at a time while lying down across the tank of a Honda CB250 Twin...and still had cars and trucks almost nudging my rear wheel in their impatence to get past.

[@BIBuildy]

I was driving my Kia Soul yesterday, and a squirrel ran out in front of me, so I had to lay-er-down.

[@dorstefan]

16:55 Bucuresti, Arcul de Triumf.

[@lifepolicy]

One day my bike had to lay me down.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@lifepolicy In Soviet Russia?😄

[@lifepolicy]

​@@MotoControlEn😂 No, just recently. I didn't treat her well and she tried to unalive me.

[@rolty1]

Nice one! ❤

[@rienkhoek4169]

This is it, from now on i will only ride at least 85 miles an hour because it will drastically reduce the chance of a crash. Thanks, that is the kind of advice we can use. Hard data! 😅

[@shaun8256]

Ride it like a surf board! I could just see the squids trying this out. Thanks for explaining the contact patch factor most people think I don't know what I'm talking about when I say a car will corner and brakes way faster and easier than any bike. You may be saying they're about equal but it does come down to braking ability of the rider unlike a car where you just have to mash the pedal and possibly brace for impact, not "lay er down!"

[@233kosta]

Breaking traction does not necessarily result in a crash. Especiqlly when the bike is upright (momentum and all, see Newton's first). I'm talking about locking up wheels in particular. Everyone ought to understand how traction works on their tyres. Once you have your basic skills down, practice locking up whilst upright. And practice recovering the locked wheel (letting go as soon as you feel the slide). If you're scared of the front brake still, start with the rear. See what the bike does, see what it feels like as the wheel starts letting go. These are markers that give you early warning, which helps you recover them before they even happen.

[@ivlivskrypta]

about brakes, since I have come to motorcycles from mountain bicycles where both brakes are on hand levers I instinctlively grab for front brake lever and rear brake I sometimes "forget'.should practice it more.

[@brandonmacon3317]

Front brake and rear with engine decel. Sometimes it takes all 3

[@RollWithSoul317]

“Engine Breaking” does help a bit. 👍

[@shremich4583]

Dress for the Slide, not the Ride

[@gilernt]

HADDALAYERDOWN

[@john.s1962]

Scotty has said some good things but his age is starting to show. He's just an old guy that doesn't have the knowledge younger people have due to the internet and open mind, he's stuck at the old ways.

[@G30rg31415]

TBF F9 didn't claim that riders shouldn't use protective gear, quite the contrary.

[@iridium771]

No, but he did make the point that it was so useless at preventing ''major'' injuries that you might as well not wear it. (In the case of regular armored shoulder, elbow and knee pads. Obviously there's no reason not to wear a helmet or more advanced protection such as an airbag vest)

[@233kosta]

Ah... If it ain't our old favourite - Scotty Kilmer!!! Note to all riders, new & old: DO NOT bet your life on an action/skill you cannot practice in advance! Yes, this includes riding a sliding bike "like a surf board".

[@fabianmckenna8197]

Absolutely........ These are things that do occur but purely by accident as you're sliding along beside the bike. It's like seeing the racing bikers skid on a bend, roll off and run to catch their motorbike as it drifts along the track all by itself!

[@233kosta]

@@fabianmckenna8197 Looks really cool when the '80s stuntman does it, but if your first practice attempt is what's meant to save your life, you're in big trouble

[@Space4ODC]

I've never flipped a car by braking too hard, on a bike on the other hand, it's totally doable 😄

[@fabianmckenna8197]

Oh come on...... they do it in the movies all the time.

[@r3dok201]

I bought my 120 hp bike as first one not because its safe, but because it will not be boring after 1 month of riding, dad told me so, and im fully agree on that. Also i have a question, one time i needed a hard brake from 160 km/h, i started to progressively pull a lever but on a half way frontwheel started to wobble and i afraided it, so i released it and with 90 km/h moved out from hazard. Could that wobbling leave me in trouble if i progressed even further?

[@MotoControlEn]

IDK what exactly you mean by wobbling. It could've been that you kept your arms too stiff during braking. Check this video about common braking mistakes, maybe you'll find the answer there! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaemZ2Z_ppqYmcU

[@MarkJones-vb8eb]

I believe during the 60s maybe even into the 70s they actually used to practice that in the police force sliding getting off the motorcycle and let it slide

[@MotoControlEn]

@@MarkJones-vb8eb I heard that, but I thought it was just rumors. But if I had to practice this "method" - I would certainly prefer to do it with taxpayers money instead of my own😁

[@fabianmckenna8197]

​@@MotoControlEn And with added police bike crash bars.

[@Neomalthusiano]

The last but one has some truth in it. In non developed countries,motorcycles are much more common then they are in the Global North. Yet, the majority of people ride 150-160 cc. A motorcycle about 25 hp is more than adequate for normal traffic conditions. Still, there are those mad truck drivers riding their Volvos, Mercedes and Scanias at 150-160 kph totally breakless. They don't seem to mind running over cars, let alone bikes. In those cases, a 400cc is useful for pulling to the opposite roadside as soon as you notice a truck at the mirror. Of course, theres a huge difference between 30 hp and 100+ hp, but I thought it would be useful to point this reality.

[@iridium771]

Definitely, the main place this comes from is the USA, where some roads have a speed limit of 85 mph (137 kph) and most people act like it's a minimum rather than a maximum. In those cases it's practical to have a motorbike that can go those speeds without straining itself too much, as most people aren't willing to keep full throttle for half an hour on their bike.

[@davidcox8961]

Could that work?? A MC ejection seat with parachute. The deer around here are trying to get me killed!!

[@fabianmckenna8197]

Ejection seat for a motorcycle sounds great until you're under a flyover doing a fine imitation of Ironman..........

[@davidcox8961]

@@fabianmckenna8197 Silly idea eh. ;- )

[@robocombo]

​@fabianmckenna8197 I think in a digital world it's possible to build an ejection system that detects an impending crash but doesn't fire if there's an overhead obstruction.

[@fabianmckenna8197]

@@robocombo Possibly......... Unless it's powered by Windows 10 in which case you're dead before it actuated.

[@fabianmckenna8197]

@@davidcox8961 Heh heh heh...... I've just been watching weird and wonderful car modifications from the 50's and 60's which make an ejector seat sound amazing. 😁

[@hookfangtrew_yt2804]

Haha, awesome

[@233kosta]

A decent radial master cylinder helps A LOT with mid-corner work 😉

[@mikeskidmore6754]

The Motorcycle has far less rubber and contact area with the road, but the Motorcycle is way lighter. Thus less mess to stop. A High Performance car can turn much faster lap times on a road course than an all out road race bike can. Same goes for dirt track racing. A dirt track car can turn faster lap times that a dirt track motorcycle can. Guy Martin raced a Formula 1 car. Guy had to turn 1 less lap in than the Forumla-1 car did and the Forula-1 car still won. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ_NmI2VbN5_h8U

[@MotoControlEn]

Race cars have better lap times due to aerodynamic downforce. If you strip them of all the wings, lap times will suddenly become pretty similar🙃

[@NoOne-ef7yu]

​​@@MotoControlEnThere's a pretty impressive video of a Yamaha R1 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife on here. The lap time is comparable to the fastest road-going cars, but not close to high-downforce race cars. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGrbhX2Oi7-Ip9ksi=Ur_6TWJZQ3WvzqTp Mind you, this is not even a timed lap, just a tourist lap with other cars.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@NoOne-ef7yu Yep, downforce is a gamechanger. Also the balls on that guy probably generate their own gravity field!

[@h.d.h]

The second myth is actually correct. Motorcycles are worse at braking than cars, without accounting for the driver. Here are a few 60-0 mph braking tests, taken from Cycleworld RSV4: 130.6 feet S1000RR: 127.7 feet Panigale V4 SP2: 128.7 feet Now for a few large cars: F150: 129 feet (Motortrend) Odyssey: 112 feet (Motorweek) Camry: 118 feet (Motortrend) The best high performance motorcycles with professional riders are about as amazing as braking as the best selling pickup truck in the USA with a soccer mom stomping on the brake pedal. Any smaller/lighter car blows away every motorcycle on the market. The problem isn't the contact patch, it's flipping the bike over. This is why cars can accelerate muuuuuch faster than motorcycles too.

[@MotoControlEn]

IDK, comparing results from different tests (done at different temperature on different pavement) is not a fair comparison. The clip at 5:55 shows both the bike and the car braking on the same surface and they brake pretty much the same. Also cars don't accelerate faster, certainly not muuch😁

[@MotoControlEn]

Here is a brake test from 100mph between Super Duke and 911, on the same pavement. The difference is pretty much within a margin of error. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaTblneYl8ygoJosi=qI-Ey3qfUYpHb2yO&t=684

[@h.d.h]

@@MotoControlEn Well, there's a video idea mate. Go ahead and make one, I'd love to see the results that you produce! 5 different bike models/types with 5 riders of different skill levels rotating between them versus 5 car types with 5 drivers. Do a head to head bracket scoring system between all of them to add a little fun to the video and have people bet on who they think will win.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@h.d.h Maybe when this channel have 5M subscribers I will have enough resources to pull off such a video😅

[@peterv3429]

Honestly 127 vs 118 is more less the same. Assuming that your example is the only valid in the world. And I doubt it is.

[@lpls]

I have to disagree on the explanation on contact patch. You didn't consider F_max, which is the point at which tires work before the ABS kicks in. All things equal, bigger contact patch does implicate in higher F_max and more braking power. The difference is in the mass; given that F=ma, you can have a higher deceleration rate on a smaller F if the mass is smaller as well. Tire width will usually be designed to about match brake capabilities, and brakes will usually be designed to match engine power and vehicle mass.

[@timoflo369]

Who dafuq thinks you need 100hp?? There are modern cars with 60hp and they can keep up with traffic easily xd

[@Malog.]

Ryan mostly talks about how motorcycle ARMOR PADS are not going to save you a fractured bone, not that you don't need riding gear at all. He wears an airbag backpack (shown in the video) and has other videos where he promotes safe riding and good gear. (Just so we don't start any fights in the comments)

[@jeremiaas15]

I have a line I always use against the big displacement myth- My grandpa rode from Vitebsk to Vladivostok and back on a 50cc. Shuts up everyone.

[@Utyug007]

Когда этот курс на русском будет доступен?

[@MotoControlEn]

@@Utyug007 Так уже, всё лето был доступен)

[@Utyug007]

@@MotoControlEn вот и спрашиваю когда будет доступен опять.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@Utyug007 А, понял) В начале следующего сезона уже, когда достаточно народу наберётся

[@TheEragoon]

That old guy is spreading so much missinformation, not only about bikes

[@r.a.burkart8628]

And what are you spreading? Can't recognize nothing but hot air! Much opinion, judging and no knowledge ... I Support! 😂😊

[@hendrikscheepers4144]

I'm pretty sure Scotty Kilmer was being sarcastic.

[@petebusch9069]

I don't know, he spreads a ton of BS.

[@StrawDragon]

My R3 had 42 hp and most cars were faster. I had a max speed of 104mph (throttle pinned) and most cars on the highway can go faster if they want too.

[@wasw]

Cars can generally reach higher speeds than motorcycles because of aerodynamics, a lot more wind pushing the motorcycles back at speed. As a general rule of thumb, cars => can reach higher speeds, motorcycles => can accelerate better

[@monsterboomer8051]

@@wasw WTF are you even talking about? Had basic physics at school?

[@Reaper51359]

My r3 maxed out at 116mph. Didn't like getting there though lol. Dunno how it is where you live, but the r3 can get up to 140kmh(90~mph) fairly quickly. I've never really had a situation where I needed to go faster than that on our highways. Even for passing, it's not the best at it, but going from 110kmh to 140kmh never seemed to trouble the bike. If anything, I'd get a bigger displacement just so the bike isn't working so hard at those speeds. It gets pretty buzzy lol

[@StrawDragon]

@@Reaper51359 You must be a feather weight :) However my R3 0 - 60mph is not the best. Now if you are amazing with the clutch, you would still be trailing my car.. Passing cars on the highway was also a slug.. No power in 6th or 5th.. Would need to drop a few gears to try and slowly disappear.. lol.. I still loved riding my R3 until I've sold it for a slightly larger bike.

[@fabianmckenna8197]

​@@StrawDragon Don't blame the bike, just hit the engine redline as that's what it is for......... Varadero has a redline limiter that kicks in. We had a Honda Varadero 125 as a spare bike with a top speed of 75 and fifth gear was just an overdrive so did nothing. Redline it in second, third and fourth and that's you moving quite nicely for a small bike. One day coming into a nice bend off the motorway in fifth so kicked down into fourth to push through at around 50mph. CRUNCH....... and it dropped onto one cylinder as I was actually pushing high revs in fourth so kicked down to third and snapped a rocker. Luckily no other damage so an easy fix.

[@orhanbiyiklibykl3179]

🧿🧿👍🙏❤

[@timoflo369]

The first braking thing is wrong/wrongly explained. If we compare two vehicles of the same class, the car will brake better. What I mean by that, is to compare a very sporty 1000cc supersport to a very sport car like a porsche gt3 or something like that. Then the car will brake better. Its also wrong to say, that a bigger contact patch always means less "grip per dot", if we compare a car to a bike. A car can weight over 3 tons while a bike could weight 100kg. At some point its not true anymore. The statement is true, if the vehicles weight the same, but in the video it says that the left is a car and the right is a bike, which means a biiiig weight difference

[@motoringwithmouseball1219]

If you aren’t member of motocontrol and my Andre chances are you will be an inferior rider and someone who doesn’t wear gear. My Andre is the best … don’t @ me

[@justposi]

First guy is primarally a mechanic channel, EXTREMELY knowledgeable btw but that being said he should stick to being a mechanic.

[@kentalanlee]

So you say 'dumping the bike never helps', then you show a racer who dumps the bike and walks away.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@kentalanlee True, but others not just walked away, they finished the race, which is even better!