Motocross Action's 2024 250 Shootout

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@pieterdejong150
@pieterdejong150 Жыл бұрын
It’s always about performance, never about maintenance, easy to work on, reliability, costs of parts, cleaning etc. For the weekend warriors, way more important than hp.
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 Жыл бұрын
100% agreed! I’m more worried about value, maintenance, and longevity/reliability rather than tune maps, peak hp, and other insignificant features. There is a $3000 cost differential between the Suzuki and the Husky!!!
@sevay696
@sevay696 Жыл бұрын
If they would take that in account yamaha and honda would be before gas gas at least
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
@sevay696 What makes you think that? KTM builds longer lasting engines than any of Japo brands. That's well known!
@metalpower19
@metalpower19 Жыл бұрын
@@Davido50 A Honda is way more reliable and parts are cheaper and easier to find bro
@misiek7411
@misiek7411 Жыл бұрын
@@Davido50 Ktm?? With their Kymco made cylinders? Husq, Gas Gas and KTM 2020+ models aint lasting long. Saw 450 GasGas with blown piston after 150hmth
@MrSuperflydude
@MrSuperflydude Жыл бұрын
Add beta and triumph to the roster next year and wow there's gonna be a lot of bikes to review for 25
@albertoramos4312
@albertoramos4312 Жыл бұрын
also ducati is looking forward to join motocross
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
It's a great time for MX riders /racers. About time the Asian brands got stomped. Let's see how good the new Triumph (British) brand will be. Ricky Carmichael has been a huge part of its development. They benchmarked the KTM 250SXF. It's best 250 hands dwn! #Maxima #KTM #F150Raptor
@Rockymountain11
@Rockymountain11 Жыл бұрын
​@@albertoramos4312that's actually exciting
@420PeterGriffin
@420PeterGriffin Жыл бұрын
Yeah man I’m ready to see some new manufacturers!
@That5.7Guy
@That5.7Guy Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the TM race bikes added in
@bendrr4521
@bendrr4521 Жыл бұрын
im sucker for old school dinosaurs, a DRZ owner as well. Kickstarters are nostalgic. and i also value simplicity. Team yellow all day for me.
@AlabamaFan-u4i
@AlabamaFan-u4i 14 күн бұрын
Love me a cheap bike too. Saving about 3 grand for a 250cc I’ll take it
@tomjackson6825
@tomjackson6825 Жыл бұрын
MXA with the best shootouts 👏🏻. I get so fed up watching other shootouts (interviewing each rider, not coming to conclusions…) This review was punchy, to the point and well edited. Thank you!
@benilesliegardner2598
@benilesliegardner2598 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha's check wrote out to mxa must have bounced this year! 😂
@thisisben3593
@thisisben3593 Жыл бұрын
But ktms did
@leonardoammannati7516
@leonardoammannati7516 Жыл бұрын
Despite everything I would buy Suzuki, the best quality for the price and it's beautiful!!!
@NOTTApro142
@NOTTApro142 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
It is majestic, especially that pipe
@420PeterGriffin
@420PeterGriffin Жыл бұрын
RM army 💪🏻
@LRP-e1m
@LRP-e1m Жыл бұрын
Yamaha has the best price for what you get
@danielservin2450
@danielservin2450 7 ай бұрын
Yea but that bike is an eyesore to look at.. ugly ass 🫐
@Charliegootjes
@Charliegootjes 10 ай бұрын
Suzuki best looking bike hands down! Like the kick starter - keep it simple. If they updated this thing, they would sell a ton of them!
@spacejaime
@spacejaime Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! 👍👍 All test riders are exceedingly well dressed for this shootout. It just makes the visuals so much better. It's not how fast you are, it's how cool you look on the track. 😂😂
@motozz8258
@motozz8258 Жыл бұрын
lol.
@yellowveedub
@yellowveedub Жыл бұрын
My opinion, if it matters or not, if youre a serious racer you modify your bike. Modify everything. If youre a play rider it is a little about brand loyalty, a little how you fit on the bike, a little on budget, a little on your mechanical know how a little on what/where/how u ride. All these brands make nice bikes.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly 💯
@backfireproductions4362
@backfireproductions4362 Жыл бұрын
I’ll say after owning an rmz 250 for a year or two now, sure it’s outdated, but if your a beginner or novice looking for a 250f. It’s an excellent bike. It corners great, it has plenty of power for a beginner, and it’s everything you need to get out on a track and learn. But yeah man I wish they’d update it
@shadecomfortss
@shadecomfortss Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I only ride once or twice a month if that and I absolutely love my RMZ. Awesome price for a bike for truthfully any level of rider. The kickstart tends to not bother me as much personally, it gives me more of a nostalgic feeling like being back on my 01' CR250
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
@@shadecomfortss yeah and batteries need maintenance in the off season or they just don't last.
@Bbirks
@Bbirks Жыл бұрын
@@yukonjon5964exactly. If the batteries go flat and you don’t have a spare or jump pack you won’t be starting it using the e-start.
@Bbirks
@Bbirks Жыл бұрын
Also not too mention if the starter motor goes as well
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
@@Bbirks and what's more, no kick starter on the new bikes. so its smart to get the bike that still has one. be better if they sold an option of both for the trail riders, and then no kick starter for the racers to keep the weight down.
@usmc03
@usmc03 Жыл бұрын
MXA chose a KTM.....what a surprise
@Rayzer1989
@Rayzer1989 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree ktms are bags of shit
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 Жыл бұрын
No mention about the value proposition that Suzuki offers. It’s a great bike for those who are weekend warriors. When some of the other competitors are 35% more expensive, you have to at least mention price. Suzuki makes a good bike, with a good power band curve. I’d rather have that then peaky high rpm that will be harder on engine components.
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to hear that, they always have to go with Honda or Yamaha because they are “the only way to go” but they won’t give Suzukis a chance, they call them crap without actually riding one, it makes zero sense
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
@@aydenrich262 Anyone that calls Suzuki crap doesn't know MX history! I prefer Suzuki (of jap brands) though KTM is my favorite last 4yrs. They are quite far ahead.
@Stroopwaffe1
@Stroopwaffe1 Жыл бұрын
Gave up in 93, asked the father for a break from racing as I'd been at it from 85 to 92or from 8y0 to 17yo, he said noi said goodbye, totally cut myself off from mx until recently and wtaf 10,000 grand, unbelievable no KX100 boo fooking hoo............
@stkyfngrszmooth
@stkyfngrszmooth Жыл бұрын
I was a huge Suzuki guy in my racing days. My last bike was a 2002 RM125, and in the handling department, that bike did half the riding for me. I stunk in the corners, but on that bike, I railed them. Just a magic machine imo.
@steveo3135
@steveo3135 7 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for yamaha to do a yellow yz lineup til I buy.
@JayPro4x
@JayPro4x Жыл бұрын
Us big guys laugh when y’all featherweights say stiff forks 😂😂😂
@stmboat
@stmboat Жыл бұрын
I'm fat as well.
@schecterman5466
@schecterman5466 Жыл бұрын
@@stmboat😂😂😂😂 straight up
@OBS_JLee
@OBS_JLee Жыл бұрын
Man what I’m 230-240 and I was telling my boy my bike soft and I told him how much I weigh and he was like it’s not soft your just heavy 🤦‍♂️ 😅
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
I'm 190 @6" tall. Hardly skinny or fat. Eat less. Diet. Train more. Not easy but anyone can achieve better fitness.
@Justin_104
@Justin_104 Жыл бұрын
Ngl once mine broke in it actually wasn't that bad. I have 10hrs on my 24 250r already, and I've over jumped a couple jumps already with it, and it was pretty smooth. (I'm 160lbs @5'11").
@deansantaw9949
@deansantaw9949 Жыл бұрын
The yellow blue has always been the best cornering bike an easiest to handle for people just starting out riding and every rider knows regardless of what bike you get your gunna throw your own suspension on it and an exhaust system anyways so by that point they are all kinda equal level besides power which for the yellow blue isn't bad I've always loved the bikes those an Kawasaki has been my 2 tops always third is a hard one cause Honda Husky and KTM are all right there personally
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki is a great MX bike overall. KTM is tops in performance/durability followed by Yamaha i'd have to say.
@aremean211
@aremean211 Жыл бұрын
They should rename themselves to KT-MXA
@Harry_Gersack
@Harry_Gersack Жыл бұрын
I'm a jdm boy and yamaha is the way to go for me. but if ktm builds the best bikes it's only right that they acknowledge that
@metalpower19
@metalpower19 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, i actually like the Kick starter on the bikes. It gives me peace of mind that i know i can turn on my bike by just kicking it.
@Bbirks
@Bbirks Жыл бұрын
And they kick over usually first or second go. I’ve got a 2021 RMZ 250 sick fun
@markilleen4027
@markilleen4027 Жыл бұрын
yeah i wouldn't get a bike without a kick starter
@highwayhydroponics5823
@highwayhydroponics5823 7 ай бұрын
Sucks when on a slope or in mud trying to kick start bike as racers fly by you. But understand wanting kick start as nobody knows how to make a good battery nowadays. They should have both.
@elipeppers_racing
@elipeppers_racing 11 ай бұрын
The rmz is not outdated there keeping it like that bc it’s the best handling bike to ever come out and nobody is really using all of the 250 power unless you’re a factory pro guy
@nicholasdalonzo7712
@nicholasdalonzo7712 Жыл бұрын
Mxa with another “unbiased” shootout. You can have any bike you want as long as it’s a ktm right guys ;)
@jamessharp9790
@jamessharp9790 Жыл бұрын
Typical of recent years.
@fasterthanyou7605
@fasterthanyou7605 Жыл бұрын
This is very very false and another scapegoat answer for the other manufacturers. They have posted extended videos, explaining that. Yes there are other bikes that you can add for example, a sprocket to or a pipe, too, or some thing and it can become better, if you ride, you should know better and should know that any bike is great. As long as you have a positive perception of your bike get the set up right and believe that the equipment under you is Good enough to do the job at hand and you are willing to work on your own form and abilities. This is a test for stock 100,000,000% stock, and right off the showroom floor. There is no doubt that the Austrian bikes have more race parts are more reliable and are a better option if you are willing to pay the price tag, which is not very significant difference these days as the other brands have increased their pricing. People need to get over themselves and stop hating on some thing because they don’t like it or can’t afford it.
@jamessharp9790
@jamessharp9790 Жыл бұрын
@@fasterthanyou7605 hubris much ? 🤦‍♂️
@fasterthanyou7605
@fasterthanyou7605 Жыл бұрын
@@jamessharp9790 learn to talk then comment
@FeelTheFlaw
@FeelTheFlaw Жыл бұрын
Base valve shims (.3 mm thick) are the culprit. That’s basically SX/FMX base valve, extremely stiff (one .3 mm shim is like nine .1 mm shims in terms of stiffness)
@MT29
@MT29 Жыл бұрын
Please get a tm and fantic on the next year shootout, would love to see them compere to the other bikes.
@maverick2242
@maverick2242 Жыл бұрын
Don't think Fantic is available in the US.
@FreEmotions_Real
@FreEmotions_Real Жыл бұрын
Isn't fantic the same bike as Yamaha?
@Matt-dz6qn
@Matt-dz6qn Жыл бұрын
@@FreEmotions_Realnot the current model though
@FreEmotions_Real
@FreEmotions_Real Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-dz6qn what is it then?
@Matt-dz6qn
@Matt-dz6qn Жыл бұрын
@@FreEmotions_Real it’s a Yamaha but it’s the previous model. Fairly certain they bought the old frame and motor from Yamaha
@damiandamian4399
@damiandamian4399 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it a common fact that the stiff KYB suspension needs like 10 hours riding on the track to soften down? I had the same with my Yz 250
@motozz8258
@motozz8258 Жыл бұрын
More like 15 but yeah Quality stuff , wp after 15hrs suits about a 50 kilogram fast rider but still needs a fix anyway but yeah a mates Son at 50kgs goes well on the stock stuff :)
@damiandamian4399
@damiandamian4399 Жыл бұрын
@@motozz8258 i’m 105kg, Stock WP on my Husqvarna was so screwed up.. really had to adjust it to my weight
@JustTip922
@JustTip922 Жыл бұрын
Idk I loved my kyb straight out the box. I’m 6’2 195, I switched from 4t ktm’s to a 23 yz250x last year and I haven’t touched a clicker front or back yet.
@luder3311
@luder3311 3 ай бұрын
I’m 98 kg, I had 2024 husqvarna fc250 stock WP can’t handle big riders, I was offered to pay 6000$ to replace WP with KYB or 4000$ to replace to Ohlins cartirdges. Thanks no, I sold my husqvarna got new 2024 YZ250F with KYB by adding 800$
@damiandamian4399
@damiandamian4399 3 ай бұрын
@@luder3311 Wise choice, the austrian brands are amazing bikes. But their suspension really need work. I’m going to get myself a ‘24 yz250f too.
@Ride4Glory
@Ride4Glory Жыл бұрын
Awesome video 💥excited to see how triumph will perform... 🔥
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns Жыл бұрын
"the Kawi is the fastest, too fast most of the time" My brother(rip) would have run out and bought one because of that haha.
@MegaStreet11
@MegaStreet11 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a lap time comparison with the riders and the bikes.
@Harry_Gersack
@Harry_Gersack Жыл бұрын
That would be really interesting
@chrisf1128
@chrisf1128 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video 🤩thanks for the solid content 🔥
@jonathangoglin4047
@jonathangoglin4047 Жыл бұрын
I purposely aim for a high reving 250f. My riding style is a tad aggressive. I’m switching from KX to the new YZ to see the difference.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
check out the latest rev limiter specs... the KX250 has way more top end RPM's than even this years Yamaha.
@ctone12
@ctone12 Жыл бұрын
I respect that, also why i'd never buy a used high rev'er 😅
@brennan5220
@brennan5220 Жыл бұрын
KTM pays the bills at MXA!
@Harry_Gersack
@Harry_Gersack Жыл бұрын
or they build the best bikes? could be an option.. just sayin
@brandonbladen4691
@brandonbladen4691 Жыл бұрын
Im curious if you guys dyno'd the rmz with the exhaust on it? Or was that with the stock pipe?
@carsonevans4252
@carsonevans4252 Жыл бұрын
The stock pipe IS the ProCircuit pipe, he explained that.
@KQKQ23
@KQKQ23 Жыл бұрын
I would love to get a new 2024 right off the dealer floor but as a CA resident who doesn’t always ride tracks, I just don’t see the point of buying a new bike that I can’t even legally ride off of closed course. Pretty hard bummer honestly. I don't know if I am just overvaluing the importance of the CA industry in particular, but I would be shocked if it doesn't tank bike sales to the point where something has to be done.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
You can't ride an MX bike on trails in designed areas there?
@KQKQ23
@KQKQ23 Жыл бұрын
@@Davido50 you can not ride a 2022 or newer mx bike, even in a designated Off highway vehicle area, because 2022 and newer bikes no longer qualify for OHV registration because of unrealistic smog standards. You can only ride on private property, or tracks.
@christopherevans4978
@christopherevans4978 Жыл бұрын
@@KQKQ23I got a 350 xcf with a red sticker also they said they could get sx models with sticker also at the ktm shop
@christopherevans4978
@christopherevans4978 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2023 350
@genefuzer4287
@genefuzer4287 7 ай бұрын
Goes to show differing opinions. I personally think the Suzuki is the best bike all round. Plenty of power and it’s low and medium power is great so you can ride it in any setting or any track. Not sure why they say it has a ‘lack of power’ you can hardly tell unless you’re a pro ringing their neck for every bit of power. Yes, I’d like e-start and I hope they implement it soon but that’s it. Every single bike you have to mess with suspension to make it good for the individual riding. But imo the forks aren’t even half as stiff as they are made out to be and I’m not heavy, I’m only around 170lbs at 5’11. The CRF is a great bike as well. Crazy they are last and second to last, I’d put the zookie first and CRF second. My mate has the KTM and it’s not great imo, I’d have the Suzuki all day compared to his KTM.
@joelmock7722
@joelmock7722 Жыл бұрын
Every single one of this guy’s shoutouts are the same. Ktm husky gasgas 1 2 3. Swap always picks the kx450. Keefer will always pick Yamaha. It’s too bad the oem’s waste their money/resources on these “test riders” when they could all get together and do a traveling demo day where consumers could get an opportunity like this
@rileyring6025
@rileyring6025 Жыл бұрын
So which bike would you pick if you wanted to not keep it stock? Would you still go KTM or would you switch up?
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Well, BEST bike stock will be the best bike modded 99% of time. If was me i'd go KTM. Their engines last longer before rebuilds as well.
@rileyring6025
@rileyring6025 Жыл бұрын
@@Davido50 Yeah you are right. I never went KTM. I had a KTM 65 but that was a long time ago and the only KTM that I owned. I will give them a look. Thanks!
@windexglasscleaner6800
@windexglasscleaner6800 Жыл бұрын
@@Davido50false, the mod jap bikes are definitely better. Look at how the star Yamahas perform compared to husky/ktm
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zd lmao
@robertforsberg6192
@robertforsberg6192 Жыл бұрын
How smoth does a track need to be for stock wp to beat kyb?
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Freshly groomed😂
@collinevans5151
@collinevans5151 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I waste my time just for them to say KTM every year.
@NOTTApro142
@NOTTApro142 Жыл бұрын
They are sugar coating it a little bit
@nroderick1976
@nroderick1976 Жыл бұрын
if Suzuki got electric start, I'd buy one tomorrow
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@jaimaclachlan4202
@jaimaclachlan4202 Жыл бұрын
wtf where they thinking with the gas gas plastics, it looks terrible
@andreasstefanou5898
@andreasstefanou5898 Жыл бұрын
Previous years Austrian bikes won the shootouts because they had the most horsepower hydraulic clutch etc. Now kawasaki have the most horsepower, is the most stable bike, reliable with KYB suspension ( much better than WP) and it came forth because MXA decided that suddenly kx250 is a bad turning bike!!!!! By the way its the only magazine who says that . All the other magazines says the opposite. MXA thanks again for the "unbiased" shootout
@Kawiboy
@Kawiboy Жыл бұрын
Love my Kaw ✊💪✌️😉
@BillAnthony-lt6fx
@BillAnthony-lt6fx Жыл бұрын
They will twist it. A few years back honda had most power and to this day killer handling. And the cried too much power.
@HPRaceDevelopment
@HPRaceDevelopment Жыл бұрын
KX has a stiff fork - just because it's kyb doesn't mean the "setting" is desireable. Kawasaki decides what valving combo the bike comes with. Additionally - the chassis plays a big role in felt stiffness - the kx gives more feedback than the yamaha chassis does - in exchange for what I feel is better trust of the stability. I think if they did a "mod bike" shootout - with say 5k budget - it could be really interesting. Pipe, clamps, suspension and some minor motor work would be about that budget. All the bikes would get a lot closer as the slower ones respond bigger to work than the faster ones.
@dumbdumb572
@dumbdumb572 Жыл бұрын
Stay mad lol
@BillAnthony-lt6fx
@BillAnthony-lt6fx Жыл бұрын
@@dumbdumb572 not mad just fake news.
@quisarsayara4028
@quisarsayara4028 Жыл бұрын
Nicely narrated and Honest reviews on all bikes . Please add Triumph wen they launch it
@oliverdurgen5953
@oliverdurgen5953 Жыл бұрын
loving the new, less erratic editing over the past few months. nice job. especially the shots of the bike sitting there. nice ong/slow shots give us a chance to examine the details.
@colbyh2732
@colbyh2732 Жыл бұрын
Funny if KTM has the most hp. Why is it that the Blue and Green bikes are always pulling the holeshots!
@kainelson5837
@kainelson5837 Жыл бұрын
Factory bikes are not a direct comparison
@colbyh2732
@colbyh2732 Жыл бұрын
@@kainelson5837 not talking factory.
@darylsmioth1904
@darylsmioth1904 Жыл бұрын
Maybe its the rider.
@linus5699
@linus5699 Жыл бұрын
hp is only on paper. its the one that sits on top that makes the difference. stock ktm will beat a stock yamaha in 9/10 , if they had the same driver.
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
@thehozz6021
@thehozz6021 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, Thank you! That high-speed wheelie 22:56 was sick!
@JoeMaxFpv
@JoeMaxFpv 2 ай бұрын
Glad I watched this. I was on the fence being a life long kawasaki fan. But 20 years later getting back into the woods I’ve been eye balling the ga gas. And now knowing the advantages of the Ktm and their 2 maps vs buying a tuner etc. It seems the ktm is a better one and done for what I need. So I can just ride and enjoy the features without instantly buying mods. Only mod I need is a skid plate and I’m off. Appreciate this content. And super exited to have my first lifetime brand new bike. Wasn’t blessed with hand me down money or an east road to paychecks. So this is a big purchase for me at this point in my life. And I want to make the right choice. So as I sit I’m planning ktm. With gas gas as my choice until this video. Either way I’m good. But I like the few extra mods I get with ktm that would cost a lot to buy afterwards.
@jpesicka492
@jpesicka492 5 ай бұрын
I wish I could ride all of them before buying one. Only Yamaha has had a ride day near me and I rode the last model, a 23 and loved it.
@psychofunksoldier02
@psychofunksoldier02 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be good to know more about the engines and quality of parts that may help to indicate which bikes might be more reliable and perhaps require less maintenance.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 8 ай бұрын
Excellent review and tests...I held an AMA 125cc and 250cc Motocross Expert License in the 70's as a 17 and 19 year old boy. All I have ridden since then has been street bikes (and one partial season of AMA Road Race), but in my old age I have decided to get another MX bike as a weekend toy. Doubtful i would race it but sounds like either the Honda or the Husky would be my best choices.
@Destructionater
@Destructionater Жыл бұрын
So as always, its Suzuki last, and all the KTM bikes on podium :/
@Mockle07
@Mockle07 Жыл бұрын
By “as always” did you mean “different to just last year”…? Yamaha was 3rd last year and the Suzuki comes last in literally every shootout because it hasn’t been updated in forever. Would you rather they just pick names out of a hat rather than giving actual opinions (which many others around the world seem to agree with)?
@mxr248
@mxr248 Жыл бұрын
Yep.. and the fact the crap he said about Yamaha no other channel has said those things.. plus Yamaha has the bike at all zeros once you put hard hitting or other tunes that bike comes on hard and more hp. Moranz said the yz is flat out awesome. Hp, cornering, suspension and so on..
@bertbroeder1832
@bertbroeder1832 Жыл бұрын
You like to blame KTM or MXA or Suzuki?
@mxr248
@mxr248 Жыл бұрын
@@bertbroeder1832 he’s getting at the fact the guy mainly always picks KTM even when it has worse traits than other bikes. All other magazines and channels will pick something completely different and all could pick Yamaha as number one and he would still put ktm. Even when they are known to blow motors and break pistons. Subframes snap right off..
@OBS_JLee
@OBS_JLee Жыл бұрын
Suzuki hasn’t made an update since Travis use to compete 😂
@PatrikMT07
@PatrikMT07 Жыл бұрын
Not true that KTM SX 2024 plastics are not available aftermarket. Both Rtech and UFO makes them and they are available to buy for at least 6 months.
@quadcityracing
@quadcityracing Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect this shootout this early!
@NOTTApro142
@NOTTApro142 Жыл бұрын
Somebody’s sugar coating the ktm a little bit
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
I agree, almost biased
@1life552
@1life552 Жыл бұрын
Ducati and triumph are joining soon😊
@tankeater
@tankeater Жыл бұрын
#38 should have been the Yamaha... Would have made me laugh 😂🤘
@r3motoworx272
@r3motoworx272 Жыл бұрын
The BrakeTech brakes on the GasGas are not owned by Brembo. They are owned by Ferodo a division of Federal Mogul based in Italy. Most of their components are made here in the US at multiple locations.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Nice. European or American made for the win! 💯
@huntrr
@huntrr 4 ай бұрын
i know this is kinda late, but would the gasgas be a good pick for me? Im not a pro but im not a beginner ive had dirt bikes in the passed but not rode a ton
@theisen45
@theisen45 Жыл бұрын
I feel like price should be weighted a little heavier in these shootouts. The Austrian bikes are like 15% more expensive to buy and maintain, and i feel like anyone buying a new bike should seriously consider if that additional cost is worth it.
@clutchitsystems100
@clutchitsystems100 Жыл бұрын
What? About 7-8 years ago, my bud bought a used ktm 250 sx - with carb. ran like a dog. Fix proved simple. Just lowered (leaned) (raised the clip to the 2nd slot) and all of a sudden it was a MONSTER. I was testing on blacktop when it revved, up comes the front wheel!! From an old dog to live lion. Surprised the heck out of me.
@jmount_429
@jmount_429 Жыл бұрын
Yami still for the win, dudes trippin
@stravis3269
@stravis3269 7 ай бұрын
Whats the gear ratios and sprocket teeth front and back on the bikes?
@tankeater
@tankeater Жыл бұрын
Sooooooooooo... When is the 2024 Triumph being released?
@nicholascanjura5051
@nicholascanjura5051 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the 2024 450 mx shootout
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@pumbhaxofficial7916
@pumbhaxofficial7916 11 ай бұрын
my fav is kx 250. and this is very nice video
@SpeedDemonExpress
@SpeedDemonExpress 10 ай бұрын
Honda has never cared about their suspension setup. I'm just glad people are finally noticing.
@rodneydavidson828
@rodneydavidson828 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great 250cc test, but now is there anyway you can test the new 2024 Triumph 250cc against the results of all these?
@sdb92
@sdb92 Жыл бұрын
HONDA and SUZUKI! 😉
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
🤙🤘
@819jt
@819jt Жыл бұрын
I stopped the vid on the Yamaha dyno chart and I have q's. The date and time of the tests compared to the results make me wonder if it was just a fuel/oxygen difference, bc the dyno graphs could almost pass for the same engine.
@georgewright8584
@georgewright8584 9 ай бұрын
i never take these guys reviews seriously, i’m pretty sure they are ktm group biased, there results are always opposite to any other platforms review. which are normally pretty inline with each other
@GageMaska-mp7pb
@GageMaska-mp7pb 9 ай бұрын
What they did to Honda was a tragedy
@bertbroeder1832
@bertbroeder1832 Жыл бұрын
KHI, Kawasaki Heavy Industries... heaviest! 2024 looking so good, 450 frame... no thanks, 45 hp won't help. Hard job for Mitch/pro circuit in SX250 2024 again.
@jamiesaiz3711
@jamiesaiz3711 11 ай бұрын
How does this only have 173k views , I would expect so many people to watch this …
@bostonlay5500
@bostonlay5500 Жыл бұрын
How is honda winning all the championships but almost in last place
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Look at what Roczen has done on the worst bike in the class
@stug77
@stug77 8 ай бұрын
Kinda makes me wonder if you'd like the "trail" versions of stone of these bikes better. They (usually) have a tooth or two lower gearing and softer forks, which was pretty much your complaint for the whole bottom half of the list.
@jesusnavarrete6317
@jesusnavarrete6317 Жыл бұрын
Only hate I have for Suzuki is it's price increase for no changes. Granted cheaper than the rest.
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
It comes with the best pro circuit pipe😂
@chillon2922X
@chillon2922X 20 күн бұрын
Hey @mxa can't you bring a fantic to your shootouts?
@pipsquek1669
@pipsquek1669 Жыл бұрын
❤️💛💚 all the way!
@chazzgonzalez1356
@chazzgonzalez1356 Жыл бұрын
It’s weird cause I had to spend more money on the Ktm to make the suspension feel just as good as my Yamaha
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯
@chazzgonzalez1356
@chazzgonzalez1356 Жыл бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zd yeah I wish I could get $20000 in parts for free. These are stock bikes
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
@@chazzgonzalez1356 Austrian bikes are the best stock bikes on the market
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zdno they’re not, they are overpriced for no reason
@adamrochester1
@adamrochester1 Жыл бұрын
When we getting the 24-450 shoot out
@danblekeberg2470
@danblekeberg2470 10 ай бұрын
Nice to have a real national MX pro, ( Josh ) doing the testing.
@michael7033
@michael7033 7 ай бұрын
I have ALWAYS been a yellow fan, i feel like taking kickers away from all the bikes takes out of some of the "dirtbike" feel. A kicker as a secondary just to know i can is ideal. That being said suzuki definitely needs to add e-start but keep the kicker as back up.
@donovanpiper320
@donovanpiper320 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!
@gabrieleb5408
@gabrieleb5408 9 ай бұрын
Husqv 44.8hp 21lbft 224lb Honda 40.8hp 19.7ftlb 219lb Kawas 45.1hp 21ftlb 228lb Yamah 42.6hp 19.6ftlb 224lb Ktm 45hp 20.8lbft 224lb Suzuki 39.6hp 19.6lbft 227lb Gasgas 43.3hp 20.4ftlb 225lb
@Landonmoto39
@Landonmoto39 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes i wish they would include a new KTM 250SX in these tests just for fun..
@lennartdiedrich2734
@lennartdiedrich2734 Жыл бұрын
0,7 hp down to honda but honda gets zero hate xD. cant tell me you feel that difference on a dirtbike
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you can’t tell with the Suzuki to the best
@MarcusFPV
@MarcusFPV 9 ай бұрын
Damn I haven’t raced, and have been out of the game since like 2008-09. Are kickstarts outdated now??
@AZ_sports_are_better
@AZ_sports_are_better 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see the new Kove, Triumph, and Ducati next year!
@japhethbonnema
@japhethbonnema Жыл бұрын
Why is the suspension all so stiff? I mean seriously every year yamaha gets mostly high praise why does no one try to copy them
@SL4US
@SL4US 11 ай бұрын
Sponsored by KTM
@ShiftGearsMoto
@ShiftGearsMoto Жыл бұрын
Team orange! The 2023 redesign was great - didn't expect major changes for 2024.
@houjous5131
@houjous5131 6 ай бұрын
Do you know why ktm & friends seem to have no riders in mx/sx right now?
@vonlitto
@vonlitto 9 ай бұрын
Pretty wild how far these 250fs have come since 2010. Stock kawi 250 in 10 was 10hp slower peaking at 34-35hp.
@bradthackston5217
@bradthackston5217 Жыл бұрын
What about the triumph? It’s running super cross this year isn’t it?
@jamessherrill6934
@jamessherrill6934 Жыл бұрын
If you are comparing all bikes as a package how is a KTM brand ranked so high with an air fork. Every KTM forum online they are always talking about swapping forks. I’ve never seen that desire to swap forks on a new bike on a Japanese brand.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
yep. just when they finally give us shock linkage back, they go to air forks.
@brickluck
@brickluck 11 ай бұрын
So when we gunna replay this with triumph and Ducati?
@Daveeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@Daveeeeeeeeeeeeeee Жыл бұрын
I can’t help but feel this is biased.
@pressinpickle345
@pressinpickle345 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki is the best
@hendrikvanderwalt5866
@hendrikvanderwalt5866 Ай бұрын
Love it...🎉🎉🎉🎉
@crk916
@crk916 Жыл бұрын
Been a MXA subscriber since 1985 and the last 4-5 years they have been a joke.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
LOL.. again, with the stripped out bolts… LOL what a Joke, I’ve never once stripped any bolts on any of my 4 Kawis, I think you guys need to learn how to tighten a bolt!
@jurdegraaf6660
@jurdegraaf6660 Жыл бұрын
get that TM 2024 in there!!!!
@ferjaniahmed3742
@ferjaniahmed3742 Жыл бұрын
Always ktm Com on
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
Best stock bikes on the market
@aydenrich262
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zd wrong❌
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd Жыл бұрын
@@aydenrich262 You ride kawasaki i already know how small your brain is
@brandonfoley8070
@brandonfoley8070 Жыл бұрын
Sales numbers will tell you what the best bike is
@ryangalbraith7080
@ryangalbraith7080 Жыл бұрын
The 2023 and the 2024 KX 250 are the same bike but last year it had 44.66hp this year 45.11 hp ?
@Huckabuck2
@Huckabuck2 Жыл бұрын
Probably just a difference in dyno consistency
@the-LeoKnightus
@the-LeoKnightus Жыл бұрын
Note the same. Different valve angles and tuning.
@CappsCustoms7
@CappsCustoms7 Жыл бұрын
I like the later in the year reviews the first reviews of y’all’s seem to only stand and go off of what’s on paper. You can predict the same lineup from worst to best the last 3 yrs lol kinda like the whole “ktm action” people have called y’all for years haha
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