MotoGP 23 - How to Improve BRAKING - Helpful Tips

[@ccramit]

Not only am I coming over from car games, I'm coming over from F1 games, where braking zones are short and fast. This is going to take me forever to learn. Especially since there are two brake buttons.

[@DrAce46]

It will take time but you’ll get there 🔥

[@Argy_V]

I still go like a drunk man on a bike .. coming from car games with a wheel, controling a bike with the analog stick feels so difficult!

[@DrAce46]

Yeah I can imagine that’s tough! Keep practicing buddy, it’ll come 🔥

[@Argy_V]

@@DrAce46 just finished time trial and a race at Jerez. Tried to put all of your advices in my game and i must say, all of them work !! From 1.45 my time went to 1.42 ( not much of a great record i know ) but it was the first time i didn't look like a drunk rider!

[@DrAce46]

Fantastic! Glad the advice worked 🔥🔥

[@invisiblearrow2733]

The trail braking is definitely more forgiving on GP23 compared to GP22 😀 Generally feels quite nice to handle on GP23, but the AI is definitely insane at 120%, especially in practice and qualifying. On Mugello, they get into the high 1:43's, whereas on GP22 they were on low 1:44's at most. During the race, it's like dealing with 20 Marc Marquez's barging into you and pushing you aside😂

[@DrAce46]

It certainly is mate, much time to be gained in the trail braking 🔥🔥 Yeah I have to keep tweaking the A.I difficulty too

[@arleedstanto]

The “J” or a tick and the reverse “J” or a tick movement on the left analog stick which represents the rider’s body position towards a turn is so underestimated.. it tremendously helped me play the game much much better.. it’s amazing that the simple logic of raising and placing the body backwards to help braking, reduce stoppies, then followed by pushing the body forward towards the exit so the bike doesn’t do a wheelie.. makes a whole lot of difference.. From rookie settings to now competitive.. mind blowing. Thank you so much!! “It’s all about body positioning “ - Marc Marquez and every other motogp riders..

[@DrAce46]

Happy to help mate 🔥🔥

[@-KaarthekeyanSureshkumar]

Thank you for these useful tips Doc! This definetly isn't like MotoGP 22, as mentioned in the video about downshifting to 1st abruptly. I was having initial trouble with the braking, cornering and exit speed cuz on exiting out of the corner, we need to be gentle with the throttle or else the bike doesn't lift out of the corner, but this vid clarified all my doubts, will have to put in some time on the track more... Thank you once again. 🔥❤

[@DrAce46]

Glad it was helpful! 😁

[@ChrisGuthrie]

Initial braking should be light, quick progression to max brake while straight up, just before starting the lean start easing off the brake so the forks extend and the bike turns. Try to get off the brake to roll through the corner then easy throttle application out of the corner.

[@ashwinkoshti9991]

Lovely, Thanks Matt!!!

[@DrAce46]

My pleasure!

[@Serukia]

This helped me very very slightly, im doing better than the first few laps i did when I tried not using rookie (letting the game play itself) difficultly, but i still cant even manage a simple turn that is any sharper than a complete straight line. Im over here playing gmod with motorcycles instead of a racing game. I honestly dont think ill get used to this with having been used to car games instead, at the very least, maybe it'll be years before i can even make 1 valid lap time

[@lamasterbatonlll1383]

If you're in career mode just pick a independent generic team, use the assists features through maybe two seasons and gradually turn off each assist one at a time I promise you'll be riding like a pro frfr.

[@cosmosvision]

I was going to ask, "the bike stands up upon acceleration. How did you overcome that?". Then I saw your acceleration. Pretty smooth.

[@DrAce46]

I’m going to be covering the acceleration in another guide, I’ll try and break it down 👍🏻👍🏻

[@CrisURace]

that is SOOO annoyin, coming from ride 5. And coming from real life racing, the bike does just not do that like that.

[@Kaspar.72]

Thanks for the tips!

[@DrAce46]

No problem mate 😁

[@gamersbluuu32]

Thank you so much Doc! :D

[@DrAce46]

You're most welcome!

[@addicted2Watches18]

Great video mate good bit of information i dont think any brake will help me in moto gp 😅

[@DrAce46]

Thanks mate, haha I’m sure you’ll get the hang of it buddy 🔥

[@CharlesRose-s9o]

I am a fool for thinking watching your videos was going to make me enjoy this game. I take total responsibility for my choice to purchase this game, but your videos are so good, I am so stupid for buying his game. I have been trying so hard to just complete a lap and to come anywhere close to doing that, I have to wobble my way around the track and focus while going slow to make sure I don't fall and I still do. You're good because you probably have years of experience. Most people who play video games are not expecting to take years just to learn how to complete a practice lap. I am baffled how you turn corners at a steady pace. I watched all of your videos on breaking and do the same thing you are doing with the analog stick and can not come anywhere close to improving my cornering. MotoGP is not a game and I believe that's where people like me get caught in the hype. I guess I will just enjoy Moto GP through watching your videos because there is no way I will ever come close to enjoying this game for myself.

[@DrAce46]

I started the same way mate, it’s natural. Don’t take it seriously and just keep playing and having fun. There’s been many players like yourself that have felt the same way but our community helps each other improve. You’re more than welcome to join my discord server to share your gameplay and we can give you some advice if you like 👍🏻 Best advice I can give you is just to take your time 🙏🏻

[@blackoutmenace561]

Coming from playing formula my whole life..I approached the corner and just went straight into the barriers wondering why on earth isn’t it braking 😭😭

[@DrAce46]

Haha nightmare

[@saifuddin278]

My gp23 got arrived yesterday after getting on bike oh my god the feeling totally different kind a hard to control bike on braking, accelerate cause im still stuck style gp22 i think needs a lot of time to spend thanks for the guide doc appreciate it

[@DrAce46]

Takes a bit of time to get used to but once you nail it 👌🏻 enjoy bud

[@carlosgaslin]

Just in time for the LiveGP lol thanks!

[@DrAce46]

You’re more than welcome mate 🔥🔥

[@jayripp84]

Thanks cause i was holding the brake all the way wondering why im not braking right

[@DrAce46]

You’re welcome 👍🏻

[@MM93_SV5]

I swear everything is difficult… I’m more used to like Gran Turismo that kind of thing, so sometimes I use full brake, sometimes I don’t, but the real thing I struggle with is the front and rear brake. Also with the racing line, turn in and braking timing, also the application of the throttle. It seems like the bike loves to understeer whenever I apply a little bit of throttle. Then the bike stands up and I understeer out of the corner. Also in mid corner I press a little bit of front brake and always lowsides.

[@DrAce46]

Yeah bike games are much different to car games. There’s a learning curve for braking and turning earlier than you do with cars. To avoid the understeer you have to use such a small amount of throttle. I found reducing the traction controls also helps with that pick up effect

[@MM93_SV5]

@@DrAce46 I realised that as well just now, like, I’m literally playing the game rn. I found it quite hard to control the lean angle on corner entries, not sure if it’s about throttle or just more precise on the left analog stick… Also trail braking works like a charm with rear braking when the front brake is like 99% used. Maybe the game doesn’t lock the front tire up before you hit 100%?

[@AnnkiitTalwar]

My bike is skidding at each and every corner. It shakes for a second and then fell. I am not used to play bike games, I am coming from GT 7 and love sim racing. Wanted to try a bike but this is very tough. I am running game on Ps4 with rookie setting, nural thing is fully ON for all the settings. Can you please help, its not fun falling down at all the turns. I been practicing from yesterday but no go. TY

[@didickcheeseburger]

i recently went from ride 4 to this and its wildly different in how it handles. i tried using the easier handling model but all that does is halfway controls the bike for you so thats useless. i hate it on first impression but i guess im gonna keep trying

[@DrAce46]

It’s very rewarding when you get it right 🔥 I wouldn’t recommend the easier handling settings, best to go pro and use some assists instead 👍🏻

[@didickcheeseburger]

@ i had a hard time finding the driving aid settings but once i did i got rid of all those assists. its much better now. its like the easier handling model was partially trying to ride the bike for me and it was going against what i wanted to do and messing me up.

[@fS301]

Hello Doctor! I am from germany and found you 2 weeks ago and like your content of motogp veeery much, thanks for that! I wanna ask if you did change something on the calibration of the sticks or the R2 and L2. Sometimes I wonder if I should try that 😅

[@DrAce46]

Welcome aboard mate, I haven’t changed any of the calibration settings. Everything is default 👍🏻

[@fS301]

Good Evening! I am now back from work, my beautiful zx6r 636c brought me home and it is a wonderful day! To see that you have answered my question already makes it much better, thanks for that mate ❤ Wish ya all the best 🎉

[@TheSacuLlp]

Well your video looked so smooth and easy to drive that I bought the game and well it feels like I wasted my money... I was never a good player in the modern MotoGP games, always felt clunky etc. but damn.. Good video anyways but idk

[@DrAce46]

Thanks bud, sorry your experience hasn’t gone so well so far. It does take a bit of time to master, if you have the time it’s definitely worth practicing to be smoother. It’s very rewarding 🔥

[@linojay201]

Hii good video Question does this 2023 edition moto gp game has the bike retrieval system after you fall out/crash on the road you pick up your bike and go back on track??

[@DrAce46]

It doesn't have bike retrieval

[@kostja9320]

If you lap in 1.46 you're right...but after that things change :)

[@DrAce46]

What do you mean? I think the basics are still very much the same no matter the skill level

[@kostja9320]

@@DrAce46 I don't agree but I respect your idea

[@DrAce46]

Just to add my lap time is a 01:45 since making this video, it’s far from my fastest track but I’m still confident the guide is helpful for teaching newcomers

[@killingsmokes9527]

yeah Im Ride4 or die kinda guy...i say its gonna be kinda hard to beat ride4 cause it's pretty locked and solid. i didnt even move on to 5...yet. So, today PS store put MotoGP23 up for free so hell yeah i grabbed it. Going from Ride4 to MotoGP23 wasn't as pretty as it was up in my brain. I thought I was gunna be SuperDave on one of those bikes seein how good I amon bikes....in Ride4....but i turned out to be Mr. DummyPants. I went to the tutorial and I dont think I made it around ONE corner....sliiiide off into oblivion. after bout15 times of that oblivion trip...i ran back to my home where its safe and the bikes love to go around corners. SO sayin all that brings me to this.....Im here to learn. There I said it. we will see how that learing thing goes...usually it goes bout as good as a train wreck.

[@DrAce46]

I hope you manage to master it mate 🔥🔥

[@jeremythomson2310]

Great video, a few tips i was missing. Should help heaps. What are your calibration settings on the controller?

[@DrAce46]

Thanks mate, calibration is at default

[@zagohann]

i played this game with the keyboards and i felt it's like a challenges for me 😁

[@DrAce46]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend a keyboard, try controller if possible

[@pannonianfit1582]

really wished they did include joint brakes option

[@DrAce46]

You can still effectively brake without the use of the rear brake, if anything it's better this way as the game doesn't overuse the rear brake. Most players actually improved by not using the joint brake feature hence it's removal. It might sound odd but the joint brakes did more harm than good.

[@pannonianfit1582]

@@DrAce46 nah for me its much worse and i play moto racing for the last 25 years, I have both moto gp 20 and 23 installed and I raced back to back to see the difference and its much harder on 23 you have to really focus and think about throttle and brake input otherwise if you try to correct mid turn your driver goes in the air while in 20 you can hold the brake hard through the corner and turn left to right at the same time. Tell me do you first apply front brake and then while you still hold it apply the rear brake, also when releasing brakes do you release them at the same time or no?

[@DrAce46]

Yeah I apply the front brake and then correct with the rear brake, in the wet conditions I heavily rely on the rear brake for mid corners. The problem with joint brakes is it applies both brakes at the same pressure, in the wet mid corner I might be only 30% trail brake and full rear brake. MotoGP 23 is much more challenging than 20. The direction is much more simulated rather than arcade, that itself will take time to adjust to. What do you make of the pick up effect? It was a very polarising feature that people loved and hated. I actually liked it :D

[@pannonianfit1582]

@@DrAce46 i tested bikes at mugello and the problem im having is that at the main straight i have no problem with braking and leaning into corner but on the other slower parts of the track when i apply the brakes in the same way bike keeps tipping over

[@DrAce46]

Sounds like you’re applying too much front brake. Try and reduce the pressure to maybe only 80% or 90% trigger pull

[@philh3041]

Thanks for this mate, can I ask what game experience settings you use?

[@DrAce46]

My pleasure mate, I just use extreme 👍🏻

[@philh3041]

@@DrAce46 I thought as much 😂👍🏻

[@sandrotreep]

Hello, I just started moto gp23, my first motor race game. I thing is very difficult, damnnn!! but I want to get better😄 I have two questions: 1: do you look at the speed before you come to a corner or is this based on feeling? 2: when/why exactly do you use the rear brake? Thank you!

[@DrAce46]

Based on feeling, I don’t really look at what speed, I advise using the rear brake for the hard braking zones and to make a small correction mid corner 👍🏻

[@nithishkaruturi7632]

Can anybody help me, during the split screen multiplayer, how to remove driving assist?

[@BillGamee]

before the brake should you lower the gear first, or brake first and then lower the gear, or brake and lower gear simultaneously?

[@DrAce46]

Brake and then lower the gear as you brake 👍🏻 don’t downshift too quickly or else the bike will be unstable

[@BillGamee]

@@DrAce46 so brake and downshift at the same time?

[@DrAce46]

@@BillGamee You can see in the video exactly what I’m doing

[@RandomPhonker]

How do I turn off assists? Can’t find any button for it

[@DrAce46]

In the riding aids screen 👍🏻

[@jasonb.3902]

One of the things I watched you do, but you failed to mention, is pulling down on the L stick (or down and the direction of the turn) when you're braking first into the turn. How important is that thumb maneuver?

[@DrAce46]

It’s not absolutely necessary but I feel it helps me steady the analogue stick. I’ve always done that as well to put the weight into the rear of the bike. I usually mention it in my guides but I must have missed it this time around

[@uhuh.2232]

He did mention it when he was on the Yamaha on Le Mans

[@RealThirdy]

Do you have tips for gear ratio? And bike settings ? I want to learn more but im suck doing manual settings

[@DrAce46]

Best advice would be to use semi-automatic first and practice by doing the downshifts only. When you feel comfortable start doing the upshifts as well

[@Force-XP]

Hi and thanks for the video. Do you have any tips for the start ? In MotoGP-Class i loose always 10 places at start, with automatic clutch too. And how do i activate full race replays, i cant find anything in menu ?

[@DrAce46]

Hi mate, I found a small amount of throttle is much better for the starts. Otherwise it just spins the rear up. I’ll include that in my acceleration guide 🔥 sadly the replays only show the last few laps now 😢

[@stickytoth5103]

How do you manage your fuel because every time I race on multiplayer with the fuel turned on I always brake down

[@DrAce46]

Fuel in multiplayer is sometimes bugged, it’s best to do power setting 3 for the first laps and then power setting 2 for the rest of the race

[@pixeldada]

Steering & brake assists enabled, throttle moderate and I still fuckin cant win a single race.

[@DrAce46]

Give it time mate, it does need some practice to get the hang of it

[@stebila1366]

Hello, I have a question, I’m on ps5 and later in the sessions (races, quali or fp) the frame rates drops huugely and it becames unplayable because it lag like is running 10 fps, am I the only one whit this problem ? (Sry for bad english)

[@Force-XP]

i know this too but only in Moto 2 or 3. If i start career with MotoGP i have no freezes anymore.

[@DrAce46]

I believe there’s some issues with frame rate drops on console, I’m on PC and I haven’t had any issues so far so I’m not sure of a fix, sorry

[@heervenx6585]

You also have a stong EBS setting. I tried at 4 and over and I feel the rear locking a lot . my balance is at 3. I guess at 4 it help also to not me that agressive on break. I still wondering if I should adapt to 4 EBS🙄 Your steadiness on stick (direction ) is impressive.. I can't keep for very long.. when Fanatec#thrusmaster will develop a decent handlebar?😁

[@DrAce46]

Keep trying to the different EBS and see what you think. I’ve tried a few and I don’t mind any of them but either 3 or 4 works nicely for me 👍🏻

[@AlexBarregon]

Thanks bud.

[@DrAce46]

Cheers mate 🔥 hope it helps 😁

[@philh3041]

Cheers Dr. 👍🏻 more practise needed 😂

[@philh3041]

Cheers Dr. 👍🏻 more practise needed 😂

[@michaeledwinmelendres9784]

When do you exactly use the rear brakes?

[@DrAce46]

For the heavy braking areas 👍🏻

[@Leikjarinn]

can you do for 24 :)!

[@DrAce46]

Already working on it :D

[@Leikjarinn]

@@DrAce46 YAYYYYY!!!

[@fitzfabtrick]

Hello DrAce can you make a video with the controller settings for MOTOGP 23? Greetings from Switzerland :)

[@DrAce46]

Hi mate, my controller settings or just default. I don’t change anything on the controller

[@dragoshhh8138]

When do you use rear break and front break?

[@DrAce46]

Rear brake only gets used to for the hard braking zones as you can see from the controller overlay 👍🏻

[@Abhinav-lg5zk]

Brother, i've been using your setup for 22 as well as 23, and it is fantastic to ride but in motogp 22 my rear fish tails and loses traction in the corners once in a while and if it does, it takes me out of the track or slides, i have been facing this problem for a long time and now it happens in GP23 also, no one helped please reply, Thank You 🙏🏻

[@DrAce46]

I’d have to see what you mean to understand, are you in my discord sever? If you are drop a video in there and I can take a look and offer some advice

[@michaeledwinmelendres9784]

I am so slow at the start. The cpu always blew past me. Any tips at the start sir?

[@DrAce46]

Are you wheeling on the start line?

[@michaeledwinmelendres9784]

@@DrAce46 I noticed it is only in the career mode. I played grand prix mode and I was way faster. I am playing with neural assists since this is my 1st time in this series. It seems the game has a script. I suddenly cannot overtake even with way lower difficulty. Any tips on how to mitigate this sir? Have u experienced this in career mode?

[@jbdjbd8922]

HI doc, Im all over the road with this game. Have a real hard time modulating brakes throttle etc. im currently using xbox one controller on steam. Do you recommend a particular controller.? Thanks for any and all help

[@DrAce46]

Hey mate, personally I’ve always used PlayStation controllers but it’s only preference. I would advise to just stick with what you’re comfortable with and take your time practicing. It will come

[@sithmetal3930]

would like to know what sensitivity your running at?

[@DrAce46]

Everything is at default 👍🏻

[@Magna_Black]

What does RHD do?

[@DrAce46]

Lowers the height of the bike to reduce wheelie. it slows you down however

[@Brunoseixasoficial]

Motogp 24 is easier for new players (f1 player all my life) or is the same as moto go 23 ??? This is very hard for me I crash all the time

[@DrAce46]

Yeah MotoGP 24 is a little bit easier than 23

[@4gamingenerrr345]

how to not lock on brake's when you use a keybord ?.....

[@DrAce46]

I don’t believe it’s possible. I would recommend using a controller

[@Bobbobington123]

Not played since motogp 2018 its like a while different game

[@klarenu1163]

was holding the joystick forwards only for cars and now i have to throw that away

[@DrAce46]

You could disable the input but the problem is you won’t be able to push forwards to stop the wheelie out of corners

[@mriarty7430]

what controller do you use??

[@DrAce46]

I said in the first 30 seconds lol 😂 Its a DualSense controller on PC

[@Chega-e5q]

Riding in game is like riding in real life,fkkk its so hard 🤣😭

[@shahriarnibir5857]

can you do a tutorial for keyboard

[@DrAce46]

I don’t use keyboard sorry

[@squidge46]

Keyboard on this is brave

[@shahriarnibir5857]

@@squidge46 i have been doing it on keyboard since ride 3

[@shahriarnibir5857]

@@DrAce46 its okay man

[@wayfastwhitey26]

I've noticed you dont use the rear brake much at all...

[@DrAce46]

I use it quite a lot, every hard braking corner it’s used guaranteed…

[@GloGangSo]

I’m so annoyed with this game

[@mateoivatek8006]

I just bought the game,and right now I'm in moto2class,and I love it so far.I picked shorter seasson and realized I Evn can pick maps that I want to race(so good).For now driving is super good and mutch easyer then motogp22.Evn track like Portimao was no problem,that was relief.But it's moto2 we will se how will be when I get to MotoGP class. Corners just keeping the glass to not lose speed and on exit slowing accelerate.And I realised if you go in the corner and in order to hit it and for example -you do left middle left midle rapidly with analog stick,the bike will start to shake and you will probably fall.Just smooth driving and ita super good for now.

[@Acarr_12]

this is the worst series i have ever played man

[@zandergrahamg4032]

@@Acarr_12it’s sim racing 😭💀if you don’t like this, my advice is never get on a bike.

[@Acarr_12]

@@zandergrahamg4032 man, i play motogp 22 and it's better than motogp 23

[@danielpena-un8vl]

Worse motogp game if you decide to play without assistances. Nearly unplayable

[@100kBlade]

it is quite realistic actually, take your time and learn it, it feels amazing when you get the hang of it