How to Build an ENTIRE Scion FR-S or Subaru BRZ! ...or just buy THIS ONE!

[@JJAAZZIEL]

You know it’s going to be a good day when moto iq uploads

[@johnnygoesfast9397]

...Especially if you own a BRZ like me.

[@GrahamTurismo]

Finally, an overview of the Moto IQ FRS! Gives me some new ideas for mine.

[@samedoi]

My son and I just bought an FRS as a fun project car. It is in good shape over all but needs a little love. This was a great video to see what kind of options there are to build for a mostly street car.

[@millll111lllI]

This is the coolest looking FR-S I have ever seen

[@anydaynow01]

Awesome video, loving the in depth Mike show and tell session!

[@MyGoToUserName]

For headers JDL makes a 4-2-1 EL that makes good power. ace also makes a good 4-2-1 that incorporates the overpipe into the design.

[@EdwardBrennan]

HKS make a 4-2-1 EL and full exhaust system with 1st CAT delete

[@BionicBuddhaX]

Really fascinating video. Thanks for the detailed tour of the build, Mike!

[@leviisaac9279]

1. Thank you all for the amazing work you do! 2. Could y’all cover that 300ZX next? Is it the same one that has the hardtop spliced roof? 3. For the store (in the future), could y’all also make shirts with the “mid 2000’s” MotoIQ logo? In one video Mr. Kojima was wearing a black service shirt with the old MotoIQ logo embroidered on and it looked amazing, well worth whatever price y’all would sell it for. It could make for a cool retro line of merch or something🤷🏾‍♂️ God bless!

[@ozzysgarage]

Such a rad platform for a reasonable price ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@ZN8BD]

It would be really cool to see you swap an FA24 from the 2nd gen’s into your current FRS project. It would make very similar power without any boost, in fact you with headers and a tune you’d be on par with the power you’re making at 8psi. I’ve seen people put a harrop supercharger on the new twins and make a super solid power band.

[@wrexz]

There's only a few of these swaps done it's apparently not as easy as it would seem

[@motoiq]

The electronics is the hard part.

[@vvevvevvvv]

I know about one FA24/20 build in Poland. But to put FA24 into an old brz or gt86 isn't that easy because of electronics.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

I looked into this for about a week before just going K24

[@VinRZ]

Hachi electronic got you covered. The dude did like 20 swaps already

[@seblo8462]

As a die hard Ae86 owner, builder and enthusiast of almost 25 years the main reason I didnt buy an FRS when they 1st came out was because of the boxer engine, I really did wish Toyota would have put a RWD configuration 2zzge or some high revving toyota inline 4 engine 👍

[@vvevvevvvv]

Fa20 already revs to 7500 tpm stock. And you can rev it higher.

[@motoiq]

I sort of hate that engine, no torque, meh power, and little potential without spending a lot of money but hey that is the 4AG too!

[@seblo8462]

@@motoiq very true, I assume it's maybe a fear of change lol

[@rholt7551]

2ZZ has a horrible power band. I drove my cousins celica GTS and that engine fell of its ass in the mid range bad.

[@boblast5582]

@@rholt7551 have you driven an fa20? it doesn't exactly have a midrange either... or a top end... or a low end...

[@Casey__Jones]

Such a good video. This car really does have limitless potential 👍🏼

[@ColeTrickle_51]

I remember seeing this at Kono shop many times and hoping it would go up for sale and I would get a shot at it. I guess now is my chance!

[@bradalderman]

The aero latches on the front corners of the trunk lid are a great idea! I did something similar at the rear with door stoppers threaded into rivnuts to beef up the OEM bumpstops. But those factory hinges are still just to flimsy at the front.

[@arefinlabib4630]

Kanata needs THIS 86

[@sollykramer5672]

😂😂😂

[@bk8230]

I use kw suspension on mine, but the v2. It feels like stock, but allows for lowering, but I also had to run a lot of whiteline parts to keep everything where I wanted. I run the sard wing, which works wonders for these.

[@bigdawg8704]

Hey man, I'm running ST X suspension which is a sub brand of KW, equivalent to KW V1, I have mine fully lowered and find I need more rear adjustment so I'm ordering rear LCAs and toe arms from Whiteline, is there anything else you found yourself needing? figured if there was more I could do it all in one install

[@bk8230]

@bigdawg8704 That should be all you need. I have a few extra parts that I wanted to try, but weren't necessary.

[@jacobleetech]

gives me a lot of ideas for my gr8 6

[@kidmars93swagg]

This was awesome. More project breakdowns.

[@brentpletinckx6668]

Now i finally know why my car is limited in suspension travel in the rear. Didn’t know the motion ratio was so effectif. I@ have my damper at the most outer. Wheel lift is very easy and super stiff car in the back with wheel hop. Will try this out for sure.

[@avery4528]

I’d love to see an all motor 330hp KSwap FRS build for the track that is pretty high end and features the AT Power dry sump.

[@emersonringrose8480]

Those stop tech brakes look like four piston rather than six like you said right? Love the content, super interesting. Helps consider my ideal future build... I'd listen to Mike talking about just about anything. He's such a dude

[@motoiq]

They are six piston.

[@KXP70]

@@motoiq they definitely are not 6 piston.

[@motoiq]

I looked back at the article and you are definitely correct, in my old age I got mixed up with the STI.

[@JTelesco]

Love these videos 👌🏼

[@bjsteg79]

Mannnnn the world is talking to me. Started re-watching Initial-D on a whim. Now scanning marketplace for an FC, 350z, or BRZ. The ae86/FRS/BRZ keep coming up. I remember being on the waiting list when they were announced. But opted for the WRX when it came out in 2015 instead.

[@hyper8545]

Never seen that boost package b4 on 1 of these. Nicely done

[@Blu.86-te1pr]

I have the GR86. I Took some notes here on your suspension.

[@ilyamuromec2867]

Can you do the same video with upgrades for FA24 brz or gr86

[@motoiq]

Eventually

[@Vgk36]

Thank hood looks NICE

[@jmblur]

Man 25k for that car is a steal. Bet that thing is a blast.

[@OfficialPhiladelphiaEagles]

In Kojima we trust!

[@6rimR3ap3r]

I'm driving my GT86 exclusively on the street, not track, and the stiffening of the rear subframe bushings has improved confidence in fast, long Autobahn sweeps a lot. Otherwise my car only got 225/40/18 Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 6 for the summer, camber bolts up front, an alignment (mostly to get 0 toe and make things more symmetrical left to right) and a GrimmSpeed front strut tower brace. After watching this video I'm going to look into those front control arm/chassis braces and a diff brace next, keeping it simple. What are your thoughts on Bilstein B6 OEM replacement shocks for street use? My car must have the early Showa shocks before Toyota switched to Sachs later on.

[@motoiq]

I prefer quality coilovers

[@6rimR3ap3r]

@motoiq thank you :-) From what I've read over the years many GT86/BRZ drivers are quite happy with Tein Flex A.

[@motoiq]

I prefer quality coilovers like KW clubsport or Ohlins

[@billyrosewood5474]

Great video. Would you be willing to share your alignment settings, toe and ride height? What spring rates would you recommend for stock knuckles for race track? Thanks again, you’re a legend!

[@motoiq]

Front -4 camber, 6+ caster, 1/8 toe out. Rear -1.75 camber, 1/8" toe in. For spring rate it depends on a lot of things. 8 kg front and 6 kg rear is sorta basic

[@RowdyGT]

I've been debating whether I want to sell my FR-S which already has a decent amount of parts on it, or sell it and step up to a GR86. Decisions decisions

[@BitcoinTo150K]

Buy this instead lol

[@alexwhite176]

Fa-24 has so much potential the trans will stop you before it will. Different beast look and see what purple drank did on a sti drive line swap on a. Newer WRX stock long block fa24

[@motoiq]

The trans stops the power in a FA20 as well.

[@yipchitaywonga]

Keep it, enjoy it and maybe swap a fa24 from a crashed GR

[@shiikon2193]

The gr86 is so much nicer, worthy improvement

[@Beanpapac15]

6hp from fluid damper is crazy. Is it worth it on a K24A2?

[@motoiq]

Interestingly we didn't see any power gain on an EJ but we did notice a huge decrease in vibrations and even how the engine sounded. So for engine life alone I think it is worth it. We use them on our K Series builds but have not done a back to back comparison.

[@Beanpapac15]

@motoiq Interesting, I wonder if it has anything to do with the differences in bore/stroke ratio. If it does then you'd expect an even bigger improvement on an under square engine like the K24. I wish I could afford the dyno time to do a before and after when I upgrade my MR2.

[@wrexz]

Considering how prone the k24 is to vibration, especially if you swap in the type s pump that removes the balance shafts I'd add a fluidampr regardless of hp gains

[@Vgk36]

That vibration alone is a hard pass. Jimmy oaks yanked his out and GAVE it to a buddy. But he thinks it's awesome till he has to live with it everyday😂​@@wrexz

[@wrexz]

@@Vgk36 I saw that lol. It's fine for a track car but not for a street car. I read a pretty long thread on a BRZ forum about the k swap and the biggest complaint was the vibrations. It would crack the headers or people would have to fab a brace to support the intake manifold

[@dw4lubu]

Can you do a NC Miata Build?!

[@tengrex]

Dang, i kinda wish there was a link to everything that was used on this frs/brz, so i get the parts for my own car.

[@baribari600]

Love this content.

[@DRIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIFT]

If you ever were to replace the engine what would you choose? For a decent amount of power and reliability

[@motoiq]

LS3 or if you hate V8's a K24

[@pak1ll3r]

I’ve been running an IAG shortblock with stock heads making 387 whp for about 3 years now.

[@motoiq]

I hope your transmission will be ok

[@mainstreetcowboy751]

If you have a chance to buy a car or anything Mike has owned buy it. I bought a first gen Celica Mike built while he was at TRD. It was builet proof. Auto crossed it a lot. Only had to change oil and tires.

[@motoiq]

It is a good carAh I wondered what happened to that car. It was a really good car.

[@mainstreetcowboy751]

@@motoiq I loved that car. Moved to Houston in late 90's for a few years. I ended up selling it down there to an airline pilot before moving back to Huntington Beach. Love your channel.

[@motoiq]

I would like to buy it back possibly!

[@mainstreetcowboy751]

@@motoiq I would too.....been 25 years. Need to ask your followers in Houston if they have seen the car. Would love to see it again. First gen Celica's are on fire 🔥.

[@CLee-e9g]

Thank you so much ❤

[@jalopy2472]

Can you run those heims joints in wet conditions? Will they wear out/ oxidize quickly?

[@motoiq]

They wear out faster than factory in general.

[@VinceCannavaII]

Fantastic video

[@PROofHAPPYWHEELS]

39:14, Someone please educate me on this: Wwouldn't this air dam create heaps of drag as the air can't escape around the car? But is rather trapped in that large tunnel?

[@motoiq]

No

[@CookJunkie]

Bummer they don’t make non-heim or sealed heim joints for those connection areas on the knuckle. I can imagine those things are going to get chewed on the daily

[@youtubingman5986]

Which endlinks are you running in the front? I think running the longer ones on aftermarket coilovers and they keep poppin

[@motoiq]

Whiteline

[@youtubingman5986]

@motoiq I have the whitelines but the longer version KLC179 but they keep popping are you running the shorter versions the KLC219?

[@motoiq]

I don't remember but they don't make noise.

[@travisrothrock2195]

Going fluid damper on my gr 86

[@wangspeed]

They don’t make one for it

[@travisrothrock2195]

@wangspeed there's an adapter for it

[@wangspeed]

@ I've been down this path. The adapter is for the WRX FA24F, not the FA24D on the GR86/BRZ

[@Savorychicken41]

Awesome! Wish I had extra cash sitting around.

[@brendanday5010]

Can you swap a br-z drivetrain into a 2010 forester or just get the later gen chassis?

[@motoiq]

I don't know why you would want to do that. It would be cheaper just to buy a newer one

[@brendanday5010]

⁠I know, just I love my car and can’t part with it lol

[@brendanday5010]

I want to swap to a manual and upgrade the suspension. Just wondering what if I should keep the motor or go ej or fa

[@CaliforniaKonaN]

Looks so good!

[@wowitsseamus1]

This dude is great

[@yaboi3895]

Awesome video. What is your current alignment settings?

[@motoiq]

Front -4 camber, 6+ caster, 1/8 toe out. Rear -1.75 camber, 1/8" toe in

[@strawberry7264]

What would you do with an automatic tranmission frs first gen?

[@motoiq]

I here the auto is decent but never drove one.

[@strawberry7264]

@motoiq I wonder if it would be worth adding a little more power. I've been told to just buy a different car when I took it in to look into running boost on it.

[@JoseBrisenoJr-hj1pu]

How do you make the most fuel efficient Toyota Celica Gt 2000- 2005 Like 10,000 MPG

[@boothy2236]

Just sold my gt86 today :( didnt need two cars done. 200 miles in 6 months

[@yipchitaywonga]

Any upgrades to the clutch/trans/driveshaft?

[@motoiq]

No they seem to be holding up fine. The trans is fine at this power level.

[@GameTribe_TV]

I'm not sure how to ask the channel directly. Do you build any engine? I would like to have a 6g72 (turbo) Mitsubishi engine built as well as you build your engines.

[@digonderongedonga]

One of my all time favorite frs builds any footage of this thing haulin the mail?

[@motoiq]

Yeah if you follow one of the links at the very end you can see it on the track.

[@Crimson_Strider]

You had me at reliable. At which corner?

[@AngelGonzalez-ey9tm]

Damn this is type clean

[@VinRZ]

Whats the kinematic of the rear anti squat after using the wisefab drop kunckles? I know that factory has like 60% antisquat, and if we want to correct the rear roll center via SPL shims.... the antisquat increases.

[@motoiq]

I know this sounds lame but I forgot! I don't think the stock is 60% either it's more like 30-40%.

[@greeber18]

Any idea how much $ in parts was spent on the project?

[@motoiq]

I forget the exact number but it was not cheap!

[@future_phonk]

Is the verus rear diffuser mount compatible with the whiteline rear sway bar mount brace? Or did you have to modify the mount?

[@motoiq]

No went right on.

[@sharmaLlama]

Very interesting...Very good...👍

[@gt3rs587]

Do u have any track video with this car?

[@motoiq]

follow link at end of video

[@gt3rs587]

I followed all links. No video found.​@@motoiq

[@motoiq]

Yeah look at the end screen of the video!

[@motoiq]

Also I think there are in car videos at buttonwillow in our RT660 tire review video

[@kowalskitk4]

great video. thanks.

[@Pr0zach]

Would you expect a fluoddampr to be beneficial on an fa20dit?

[@motoiq]

Yes

[@motonoia]

Did you already sell this car?

[@motoiq]

The offers are up to 32k

[@funnypotatoman773]

for a scion tc 2015 do they make a supercharged

[@motoiq]

I don't think so

[@funnypotatoman773]

@@motoiq ok thanks

[@motoiq]

I double checked and the kits that were made appear to all be discontinued. TRD kits may be available used.

[@funnypotatoman773]

ok but thanks

[@gt3rs587]

Coilovers are v3 clubsport or v4 clubsport?

[@motoiq]

Coilovers are a lot of things in general

[@gt3rs587]

V3 or v4?​@@motoiq

[@motoiq]

Its pretty obvious that they are coilovers...As well as a lot of other things.

[@gt3rs587]

@@motoiq I mean what coilovers are fitted in your frs?

[@motoiq]

V4

[@antoinedoinell]

I like the idea of the gt86, but the oil starvation issues in FAs scare me. An updated longitudinal version of the 2zz-ge or a beams would have been so perfect. I like when toyota and yamaha make things together. Wishful thinking. This here is a very well thought out and cool project tho, thanks for sharing.

[@johndc2998]

Yota will have their GR16 or GR20 in it soon. 2026 or 2027 MY.

[@seblo8462]

@antoinedoinell yep, the boxer engine was the main reason I didn't get an FRS when they 1st came out.

[@Xx9ThatKid6xX]

@antoinedoinell Aftermarket pickup and pan are an easy fix to prevent that as he explains 1/4 way though.

[@antoinedoinell]

@ yeah i heard that, and have seen others say similar. perhaps its a viable solution. I'm not really trying to criticise subaru's engine. I'm more an admirer of toyota/yamaha's past engines and felt for the name sake/history an inline 4 would have been more appropriate. that's all.

[@Xx9ThatKid6xX]

@@antoinedoinell Yeah, I mean a factory fix and recall for cars already out would have been smart on their part. But the idea was to create a sports car and keep the cost down, I'm guessing the boxer was the cheapest option of the two. I do agree that other engine options would have been cool though.

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

May i have the link to buy this car?

[@motoiq]

email us and make an offer.

[@TXCHRISZ06]

Hi Mike.

[@richard-mai]

Stop tech or ap racing if money want an issue?

[@motoiq]

Currently Stoptech isnt operating well since private equity took them over.

[@camhyde9701]

yeah StopTech make great brakes... WAY better than VAG OEM Pagid garbage

[@1atinlove]

Where is the car listed?

[@motoiq]

Go to motoiq.com and email us.

[@tacobreather]

What kind of total timing at full throttle with 91?

[@motoiq]

Not much

[@aurelioortiz8989]

Trade you my blown engine FRS with cash in hand for this one….. you can mess with that one😂

[@MouseCIick]

How much?

[@motoiq]

watch the video and make an offer!

[@Takeitlightly6]

I want to know what happened to ark design brand?

[@motoiq]

There was a lawsuit about the name and Ark Design is now Reark.

[@Takeitlightly6]

@motoiq that 32 was frying ecus 10 years back, what happened to it

[@motoiq]

???

[@Takeitlightly6]

@@motoiq After the Wtac 2014, what did you guys do with the r32 gtr you took to australia. I always wondered what became of it.

[@motoiq]

It is sitting in the remark warehouse.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Why Toyobaru didn't build the FR-S platform to actually have any head-room in the powertrain, is beyond me. When it's used like a sports car, everything degrades into a melted blob of lava.

[@motoiq]

I wish it had the turbo WRX engine and a better transmission to hold more power.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

There's a good number of people who repeat the line, "that boxer engine CG is low, brah". To which I respond, that it doesn't seem like Mazda corporation finds a vertical inline-4 a handling problem in the MX-5. While the boxer can be built to be strong, it's a less optimal place to start compared to a host of historical fours from Volvo, Mitsubishi, BMW, Honda, Nissan.

[@motoiq]

It just seems like a no brainer to do so though.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@ Are there any current production vertical inline-4 engines from Toyota that would make a good starting point for 300-400 horsepower in this thing?

[@motoiq]

There is one coming for the new celica/MR2

[@alexanderscholz8855]

You sound 🤒! Hot chicken soup and Vodka with Pepper. Than sweat in the Bed! Stay safe and get healthy!!!

[@motoiq]

I was sick that day.

[@cboo4337]

He didn’t start with “ hey it’s Mike from MotoIQ here “ 😞

[@RandomlnternetGuy]

I CONSTANTLY toss between this and an NC miata for a steady track day car. Both are pretty inexpensive to upkeep, both have infinite aftermarket support, both are direct and about fun>power. Ive always wondered, if you were to go balls to the wall, which platform/chassis would have a higher ceiling.

[@motoiq]

Probably both are about the same.

[@RcCrawlerGuy]

Would you take 5k for the car? JKKK lol Sick build.

[@MikeFoster1]

Would love see you guys build a VB WRX since so much is left on the table because no STI

[@donovanguerrero7489]

I cant buy this...not without LS swapping it :)

[@future_phonk]

🔥🔥🔥

[@JoseBrisenoJr-hj1pu]

But I still wonder who is going to try 🤔 to do it .10,000 MPG

[@MasterCerdas]

This man sure knows how to sell parts.

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

You should have them do a CFD model of this car as it is right now and see how they all work. Considering all the aero parts are from different suppliers and developed independently. I'm not trying to bash you guys because I do love your content, I'm just curious what the final aero results would be.

[@motoiq]

Except to do a CFD run is very expensive.

[@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883]

❤❤❤❤

[@t0psh0t415]

Build a s2000

[@kajex1rc351]

🤩👍

[@CarmelaSchowalter]

tunedbyai AI fixes this. Build Scion FR-S or buy!

[@Gwo-mako]

MFG

[@Wewewewewewewewewr]

Literally

[@Vgk36]

Fa24 bottom end ?

[@JoseBrisenoJr-hj1pu]

And Nobody will ever try to make it ,Nobody 🙏

[@grippgoat]

You moved the front of the arm down to remove anti-dive? that doesn't sound right... After a couple more camera shots, it looks like you moved it up, which would make more sense.

[@motoiq]

That makes more anti dive.

[@grippgoat]

@motoiq I feel like I'm arguing with God since so much of what I think I know about suspensions I've learned from you. 😊 That said, lowering the front of the arm is going to raise the front suspension's side-view instant center, no? And that is like raising the roll center, which creates jacking forces that make the front dive less under braking, hence more anti-dive? And raising the front of the control arm does the opposite? Am I missing something subtle? Are you using Whiteline opposite terminology?

[@motoiq]

If the arm is flatter the percentage of the distance between the CG and lateral instant center gets smaller so less anti dive.

[@grippgoat]

​@@motoiq I've re-read that about 20 times, and I don't think there's enough information there to turn it in to the correct mental diagram to follow what you're saying. Maybe it's time for a Part 9 of The Ultimate Suspension and Handling Guide to go through it with diagrams? 😅

[@motoiq]

Now this is just a quick dip to 30 psi not long term running under high load at this pressure.

[@thehitman8663]

Subaru motor yuck. These with the G16E stock mmmmmm

[@JoseBrisenoJr-hj1pu]

You don't drive it

[@Gibsonmedia24]

220hp that’s slow asf