Avoid This Common Cornering Mistake

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[@MotoJitsu]

Practice getting the corner over with quickly, not cornering quickly. New Instagram instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@BigMac00100]

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[@KaelanRios]

The man with a lot of lean angle here... my foot pegs can attest to the fact that I've been carrying way too much corner speed. Part of my struggle has been letting go of the idea of only "late apex'ing" my corners. MANY classes and online resources teach this as the way to maximize corner safety (mainly from a visibility and reaction time standpoint). However, when you learn to drive a powerful bike towards the corner, BRAKE, and then take the corner at a slower speed in order to quickly stand the bike up again and RIP out of the corner, you find that it's one of the safest ways to corner, thanks to the fact that you have to slow significantly for your next straight-line setup. This significant slowing lends itself to greater reaction times if something is out of place on the road, etc. It has been difficult for me to accept the feeling of a slow corner, because my natural inclination is to not "give up ground" if riding quickly with others, which slow cornering feels like to me. But the fact is, as I get better and better at applying slow cornering (often with double apex'ing), I find myself driving faster and faster out of corners with a now-upright-bike, so much so that I have to sometimes reapply brakes when riding with others to maintain safe distance with those in front of me. So be patient y'all and corner slower and smoother 😁 And check your tire pressure...

[@MotoJitsu]

Great reflection & summary 👍🏼

[@Schmitzelhaus]

Just wanted to add that i think there´s also a limit to RIP out of the corner as early as possible, because thats´s the perfect way to get a nasty high sider if you overdo it. Modern bikes might handle that with traction control, don´t know, but i have painted a nice couple black lines by exiting too hard with my 2003 R1. 😅 But other than that i completely agree. 👍

[@Wintersdark]

​@@Schmitzelhausthat's his whole point though. If you turn faster you can accelerate as hard as your bike can much earlier. That can't cause a high side because you're not accelerating until your bike is pointed in the correct direction and upright. So, slower mid corner speed allows a sharper, faster turn followed by a harder exit.

[@Schmitzelhaus]

@@Wintersdark Well, you´re right ofc, but it´s not like you only start accelerating after your bike is fully upright, right? Pointing in the right direction yeah, but, at least how i´m riding, it´s more of a progression. The more i get out of lean, the more i pull on the cable. That´s what i meant with overdoing it. But maybe that´s just me and like i said, i don´t know how modern day traction controls react to this as i´ve never drove one ambitiously.

[@applec2400]

@@Schmitzelhausoh nuance, I hardly knew her

[@SteveLawrance]

This is fantastic advice. My friends are often saying I should lean more as if it is a target. If more riders followed your advice there would surely be fewer crashes…. This is pure roadcraft, excellent vid…

[@MotoJitsu]

lean for as little time as possible :)

[@ThatMT09]

Learned this technique a month ago with my mt09 on the canyons instead of focusing on going into the corner fast with a wide arc emphasizing lean angle ( "how I look" ) and h*ly sh*t I'm cornering faster than ever. Riding was much more fun and intoxicating! Getting it turned fast and hammering the throttle!

[@MotoJitsu]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@dutch_martyr]

The way you explain cornering is so simple and intuitive. By far the best instructor on KZbin. I've been riding for 8 months now and have a pretty solid foundation because of your videos and app. Thanks Greg

[@MotoJitsu]

👍🏼❤️

[@sebg2086]

explanation is good but he cant do it himself

[@dutch_martyr]

@@sebg2086 oh I didn't know. Thank you for letting me know!

[@barrywood8838]

Sebg are you ignorant?

[@dutch_martyr]

@@sebg2086 lol his videos literally document every technique he teaches

[@jakesolo2872]

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Riders, especially young or new riders, should not be encouraged to carry speed through a corner on the road. They’re not ready for it, mentally or physically. Leave that to the guys who earn a living racing bikes or go to the track with its 100 yards of run off.

[@MotoJitsu]

A lot of good bumper sticker quotes, but teaching people how and why is what I've been trying to do with my videos. instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@Mototardpaul]

I disagree , purple line would be for a liter bike at the track and the blue line would be for a smaller bike 400-600 where corner speed is critical. Blue line will be faster but it comes with more risk. I tried both lines at the track and I could see I was losing a 10th or 2 every corner I did the point shoot line.

[@MotoJitsu]

this isn't about lines, you're missing the point. I even said don't pay too much attention to the lines in the video instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@Von715]

Moral of the story: focus on getting home rather than your chicken strips 😂

[@MotoJitsu]

getting home is always the main goal

[@knifetoucher]

but being leaned over is fun :)

[@MotoJitsu]

too many riders want to look fast vs. ride fast.

[@knifetoucher]

@@MotoJitsu I like the actual leaning part, don't care about going or looking fast, it's just fun like riding a rollercoaster, I do it for that

[@MotoJitsu]

want to feel like a rollercoaster? learn to trail brake and do what I say in this video.

[@knifetoucher]

@@MotoJitsu Yessir, I am a new rider so I still think leaning is fun but yes, it's not optimal way to ride. Just started riding about a month ago, it's very fun :) Your vids been helping a lot, especially the counter steering one, blew my mind, had no idea that was a thing before riding a motorcycle.

[@deusexmachinawl]

Why would you even think about cornering like that with an adventure bike? Like on the thumbnail.. wrong bike, wrong roads, wrong attitude.. just keep a reasonable speed, stay central and have a great ride

[@MotoJitsu]

because I'm a badass and I ride all bikes like it's a sport bike instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@damiengvideos4337]

This is a very good point however sometimes it’s just fun to lean! It’s one of the biggest differences in bikes and cars. Bikes lean in cars are pull outwards. Sometimes I just want to lean baby! 😁

[@MotoJitsu]

it is fun...that's why I ride...but I also want to ride better and more efficient and effective instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@rs8197-dms]

Here's what I don't understand about this fast cornering debate. In 50 years of biking, my goal in corners has always been only one thing - to enjoy the corner. I discovered many years ago that cornering at speeds well within my skill is far more enjoyable than cornering as fast as I can, with high risk. My opinion - if (as a street rider) you are aiming to corner as fast as you can, you need to rethink some stuff. What is your goal as a rider?

[@MotoJitsu]

and the way you enjoy a corner isn't the same for everyone instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@failranch9542]

I’m learning to go fast approaching the corner, in the corner, and exiting the corner. Typing from my hospital bed

[@Rgh71fish]

Speedy recovery to you

[@chrisnoname3829]

until you take this too the track and get passed by guys on 400s

[@failranch9542]

@@chrisnoname3829 I ride to up too the track two -

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@chrisnoname3829]

@@failranch9542 learn proper English and grammar before attempting to be a smart ass 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣😂🤣😂

[@robby1816]

It's not a racetrack. Being "overall faster" by the end of the twisties should not be the goal. Happiness isn't around the corner, it is the corner.

[@MotoJitsu]

And for a lot of people, happiness also includes riding quicker and that’s ok too, we don’t shit on you for riding slower, don’t shit on us for riding faster.

[@yzfr6806]

You're advising us to ride 1000cc racinglines? That's 'stop and go' style and works great for literbikes on the track. But in the twisties i would not recommend a stop and go ridingstyle. I would rather work on my bodyposition to decrease leanangle.

[@MotoJitsu]

it's more about not cornering fast and getting the corner over with fast, like I said instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@SeanC1959]

This is the best cornering explanation I've ever heard. Good on you Greg. Much appreciated, regards Sean.

[@MotoJitsu]

Glad it was helpful! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@Lardly]

Another great video Sarge…thanks again! (Note to self: slow into the corners, fast out)

[@Ramon51650]

56 miles of homework for this coming Saturday & Sunday - thanks.

[@snatr]

Great advice. PS: I liked you better with hair. Is there a big lice problem in your area or what 😜

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@eyemallears2647]

I find this to be weird advice. So, it doesn’t apply to the track, otherwise “racing line” wouldn’t be a thing. It doesn’t apply to the street because surely the aim on mountain roads isn’t to “go as fast as possible” but actually to ENJOY the ride as much as possible. - and in the twisties surely the fun part is riding smoothly and enjoying the curves?? I mean if we can all enjoy riding more at slower speeds surely that’s a great thing? So this advice is for people who want to go FASTER on public roads? Not sure this advice is for me. Please explain motojitsu 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@MotoJitsu]

Nope, definitely not for you. Many people enjoy the ride and go fast and are smooth. If it’s not for you then it’s not for you.

[@pavo_9768]

I think it is the challenge and increased hartbeat that attracts us bikers

[@eyemallears2647]

@@MotoJitsu maybe you’re right, it’s not for me……it’s just that the line you drew through the corner looks far less enjoyable than a typical racing line. 🤷🏼‍♂️ THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP THOUGH!!!

[@MotoJitsu]

enjoyment is subjective

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

Thank you for the video. I’m guilty of that to a bit. I’ve been riding by myself a lot and not being pushed by others is great. 2600 miles so far since May 😂. All mountains

[@flip_moto]

This style really only applies to high HP machines. lightweight machines need to carry a higher corner speed because they can't make it up in drive out of exits. Its why track days can be frustrating for 600 or twins when sharing time with 150HP+ machines. Your examples seem more like poor response times than thorttle and line strategies. I'm still learning myself, but applying any track strategy to public roads with double yellows seems pointless.

[@MotoJitsu]

You missed the point

[@mervyoung5397]

Awesome! I’m a new rider with a CFM 450SRS, so it’s a lower powered bike, but I will practice this around my twisties so I can get use to the technique for when I’m ready to go to a bigger bike. Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@paull213]

Yes that's the way I ride, Your way makes the straightaway longer which gives you more time to accelerate to the next brake point equals faster top speeds. Faster corner speed is for small cc bikes on track I'd say. Bike bikes, the faster rider out of a corner is the one that gets back on the throttle first, that person slowed down faster and turned their bike sooner. On street I try to aim for a later apex. If you apex early and carry too much speed you will blow a line and that's not good. With a Late apex you trail brake for longer until you see the exit of the corner. Hunting for a late apex means you are able to decrease your radius easily with more trail braking and are not at 100% of your ability. When you see the late apex the exit is right there and you can transfer from brakes right to throttle no in between. With high corner speed you most likely are off the brakes so your reaction time is longer if you need to slow down fast. On street it amazing what you may need to avoid mid corner, its best to be a good trail braker and late apex taker.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@adrianverwey5053]

This is great for the track, but on the streets this technique sets you up for overshooting into oncoming traffic . If you try this cornering technique coming down hill you will get yourself in trouble trying to brake into every corner and accelerating out because you are unsettling the balance which is far more critical running downhill. Downhill demands smoothness. Track and road are completely different places.

[@MotoJitsu]

You obviously don't know what trail braking is...and none of this video has to do with track riding, although it's pretty much the same.

[@sattvicvelo3506]

Mate, you need to brake more on the downhills especially - to keep the bike balanced. Not braking during the corner going downhill is asking for trouble

[@lukeorlando4814]

But.. but.. if I wanted to be upright, I’d be driving a car.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@BOB24502]

With a small displacement bike like a 300cc the blue curve is the better line (on the track). With a liter bike, yes the red curve with lower corner speed and higher exit speed is the faster way

[@MotoJitsu]

forget about the line...that wasn't the point of the video.

[@robmcilroy1894]

Yes . And learning good lines on a low powered mc teaches good skills for larger horsepower mc. Currently ride a drz 400 sm and 1200 thruxton r. Futures so bright 😎

[@BOB24502]

@@MotoJitsuyeah I get it; get the corner over with fast instead of cornering fast to be a safer rider on the street. I guess my original comment mainly applies to track riding and fastest lap times depending on motorcycle size/power

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

This “might” (I’d like to see lap times) make you faster on a track, but is not good advice for street use. Visibility is most important in a corner on the street, to see and be seen, not the ability to drive out of a corner. Then there is preference; I personally prefer smoothness on the street, so hard braking and acceleration is not my cup of tea. You also give up traction due to tire loading, the slower you corner. Lastly, your chart makes no sense to me? How can you enter/exit same speed, go slower mid corner and somehow be faster? Where were you faster? You said you got on the brakes earlier than the other rider, so by your words, you were slower until mid corner, but remember your exit speed is the same, so you were faster to accelerate out but slower everywhere else and somehow that makes you faster? Seems like the two methods would cancel out, assuming same entry/exit speed (as stipulated). I’ll take smoother with less hard acceleration. I suppose less time leaned over could have an advantage for maneuvering, but I choose roads where I spend all day leaned over, so kinda defeats the purpose.

[@MotoJitsu]

Come to San Diego and we’ll go ride.

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

@@MotoJitsu Thanks for the offer 👍🏼 Just moved from SoCal to NorCal. Spent all my free time at; Palomar, Jacinto, Bernardino, Angeles, Monica and Padres. Been riding forty years, but still lots to learn.

[@MotoJitsu]

Awesome! I got to Palomar 4-5 times a week!! If you see me up there, come say hi

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

Interesting. (Superport rider 30+ years exp)

[@MotoJitsu]

take more formal, high level, in person training MotoJitsu.com/courses instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@Mailleman67]

So going from 50 to 30 and back to 50 during each of these corners...are you constantly down and up shifting?

[@MotoJitsu]

No

[@efdege2931]

Dit is werkelijk je reinste onzin...

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@michaeltoia9095]

Fast around the curves get ready for disaster got it

[@pcprincipal2896]

Makes sense. But also more boring, teaches you less, and not actually the fastest way to corner

[@MotoJitsu]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JamesParus]

Im just trying to get the longest knee down time possible.

[@MotoJitsu]

go in circles

[@BirdArvid]

I believe in what you're saying, but I have one question; what about power differences? I can see how a big, powerful bike can do this, but all the knowledge I've seen of smaller, lighter, less powerful bikes says "carry speed through the corners" Watching racers on 250's, they tend to carry as much speed as possible to make up for their comparative lack of acceleration; how do you see this? Thanks for your great videos, and keep 'em comin'!

[@MotoJitsu]

Yes it’s opposite for smaller bikes.

[@alp3781]

Fantastic video. 35 years on heavy bikes/powerful and you refreshed my corner behaviors again. I ride a Wing DCT and my cornering habits had to be readjusted a bit. My fear was always, cornering and staying away from center road oil stains. I use the paddle shifting in any cornering entrance to slow down before the computer does it. Better control for me.

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks! linktr.ee/GregWidmar

[@philmenzies2477]

Slow is good, and good is fast. Who would of thort?

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@jeremykeller211]

Thank you for this valuable advice. I began riding on a BSA C15 250cc in 1963. Now I can finally start avoiding cornering mistakes.

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@dans2971]

I was going up a hill on a left hander yesterday and some mong in a Honda CRX crosses the centre line coming towards me. Not by much but I m glad I wasn’t trying to blast through and near the centre. Wouldn’t be here telling y’all about it…

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome I said in the video don't pay too much attention to the lines, but here we are, you missed the point.

[@mgl3965]

"Get through the corner faster" Why? Safer, I get. Faster and faster on a public road is unsafe, no matter how one spins it.

[@MotoJitsu]

you missed the point instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@mgl3965]

@@MotoJitsu "Way faster exit. Quicker overall. Drive out of the corner really hard. Accelerate... very, very quickly. Exiting faster... that's the idea."

[@MotoJitsu]

Not everyone rides around at the speed limit overly concerned about safety...if you want to be safe, sell your bike and drive a car.

[@mgl3965]

@@MotoJitsu Well, at least I got the point this time. All good brother.

[@crustyzimmerman3324]

There’s a comparison vid on here between the technique of Johnny Herbert compared to Michael Schumaker. Shouldn’t surprise you who’s using this method. Also, if you look at the Isle of Man TT races, they don’t appear that fast mid corner. But there’s only a handful of riders in the world that could keep up with them.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@dm9193]

Just wasted 9 minutes, I’m never gonna get over that much on my dad bike😂 ride safe guys 😊😂

[@MotoJitsu]

you wasted 9 mins then decided to comment? Weird

[@Alexander-of7ny]

Really enjoyed this instructional video. For me, if you could have added some graphics in the form of lines laid over the video it may have helped my understanding of your instructions. 👍

[@THOMASHERNANDEZJR]

Considering that guy is NOT ON a sports bike at Banner grade, which is a lot tighter he’s not doing bad ..you got to remember you are on a BMW S 1000Rr.. I also noticed when you were in front that was at Palomar Mountain, which is a lot easier to ride. Good vid !!! Banner grade is very tight !!

[@MotoJitsu]

I’m riding a 2023 BMW S1000XR dude and no one said he’s doing “horribly bad”

[@joebright1369]

I think it helps not to let the shape of the road/corner determine the arc you are taking. these are just the boundaries in which you can ride.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@evanmcknight2566]

Many years ago I took my none sport bike (standard ujm cruiser style bike Honda cx500) to a track day. After figuring out the limit I could lean the bike over and gently touch down the foot pegs I was able to keep up pretty well with much sportier bikes of similar displacement (much to their surprise). I was following the line of the experienced riders/instructor and it seems they were doing exactly what you are talking about.

[@tommynikon2283]

Dude- my FIRST bike was the CX-500, 1978! I was in college and my girlfriend’s brother rode from S.F. to Seattle on the same. I rode passenger on an errand- my first on a bike- a month later, bought the same!

[@evanmcknight2566]

@@tommynikon2283 nice, mine was a 1982.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@rodrigolumi]

• Slow down before the curve: Decrease your speed to enter the curve in a controlled way. • Take the curve slowly: Maintain a controlled speed at the midpoint of the curve, reducing the need for extreme leaning. • Accelerate on the way out: Increase your speed gradually when coming out of the curve, taking advantage of stability when returning to the vertical position.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@rgthomson1]

Smaller bike does tight line and bigger bikes do the wide one, these are racing tactics on a track and is good advice here

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[@paulounia]

Thanks for the video! Great insight for me, given I've only been riding for about two months and the twisties are my favourite place. Out of pure curiosity (Please don't take this as me challenging your advice): Is this meant to be the "Fastest way of turning safely in the street"? I am no pro rider, definitely not comparing myself with professional racers, yet I'm curious on how your strategy works better than leaning more (your video is clear proof), yet in racing we see riders leaning as much as physically possible. My gut feeling at this point is those folks have their own laws of physics than us mere mortals, that's why your technique is better for normal people.

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome!!! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@bruceboerner4632]

The rider you show is alway's shooting for a late apex. The diagram you showed is consistent with Ryan Fortnine's video from a couple years ago about your cornering wrong, or something like that. I agree with you, don't try to maximize you're cornering radius to maximize your cornering speed. Brake hard, turn quickly so you can get a straighter corner exit (more upright) and apply more power on exit with lower risk. Unless, of course, you're racing motogp.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@233kosta]

The diagram makes a good point. Next step - combine it with a late apex. After that it'll be down to polishing it up.

[@MotoJitsu]

Lines don’t matter much in the diagram, just the main idea of getting corner over with quickly

[@zakzhango2495]

I enjoy leaning the bike and wearing the tyre to the edge - simple as that and I haven't crashed in over 50 years.

[@MotoJitsu]

Who doesn’t? Not crashing doesn’t mean you’re a really good rider. I could ride 1,000 years and not crash if I just cruise around once a week.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

great illustrations, thanks. personally i know i'm a pussy when cornering and usually take it really steady into them, especially on unknown bends, until i can see the exit, but the times when i've overcooked it by mistake leave a horrid feeling in the stomach i can do without, it's all about practice and concentration IMHO. GL

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@oleksiiboiko1651]

Actually, this is the only way to take a corner on a bumpy tertiary roads.👍 Encounering a twist on an uknown road I always suspect it's a 180 degree turn. But in case you decide to lean early with a high speed and suddenly encounter a bump or a big pothole, the best outcome is you realize yourself somewhere in a landscape

[@MotoJitsu]

please take more training, including dirt training MotoJitsu.com/courses instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@imadjawad4408]

Okay, another great Video, BUT we want another, this time let your friends record you while you doing the correct cornering, so we will have 2 videos, Don't & Do, thank you for your dedication

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@Cimato]

What you are explaining here is what most teachers in Holland learn their students too. The reason behind getting the bike upright as soon as possible is because we have a decent amount of corners which get tighter mid-corner or have manhole covers in the middle of the corner. The faster you get the bike upright, the faster you can avoid sliding over a manhole cover or flying into oncoming traffic.

[@MotoJitsu]

all about getting corner over with, off edge of tire and accelerating out :) instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@rickterry8148]

I can see what you are saying, but in the UK, the bikesafe teaching is hitting the same apex as you but .... how to explain.... so going into a right hander, you ride in the outside car wheel tracks, because if you go in too early, you end up heading for the verge on the exit, ditto left hand corner, but you are not heading for the verge, but into oncoming traffic. This is a problem over here, police say. Point to note, we drive on the left 🙂 love the vlogs, Sent many hours in car parks doing your exercises.

[@MotoJitsu]

much more to learn beyond "bikesafe" instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc]

Yup … thanks Mr. Jitsu!

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@christophercowan9946]

Seems to describe the late apex technique usefulll for 1k superbikes to straigten out the turn .however iv lost grip on the backend to many times employing this technique.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@vaibhavsabharwal3590]

Great explanation! You have a knack for instruction. Also, the rider going in front of you doesn't seem to brake at all going into corners.

[@MotoJitsu]

Thanks :) instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@dorinic]

Could the other riders have moved their butts off the centre line to reduce lean angle (i.e. full body position) while doing the same mid-corner speeds? I'm not saying people should be doing that on the street but it is what comes to my mind when I see the speeds they are cornering at and the lean angles they are using. I was nervous about the ground clearance in most of those examples. What you are saying makes sense too of course.

[@MotoJitsu]

this isn't about body position at all instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@rcvg69420]

I dunno for me the thrilling part of twisty roads is doing a single apex in the right spot with plenty of lean. And it's definitely faster. Riskier.... I dunno really. Cornering is really dynamic and I'm not sure there is a single best technique to apply. When in doubt, just go slower. When not in doubt, it's hard to beat the feeling of railing the corner at 45+ degrees of lean and apexing a little late.

[@KaelanRios]

Not faster, just feels more raw (that’s the feeling bit). By all means cornering is dynamic, but now we’re arguing points for track more than for street. By the way, you can still hit 45+ degrees of lean in a slow double apex - just turn tighter. You can drag knee no problem, just at manageable speed that optimizes corner exit.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@peterv1806]

Such awesome advice. Thank you so much. You have helped me immensely. And I'm sure that you have saved many lives.

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome!! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@FreakZAR]

It make sense for someone that does not know the road ahead. I rider that knows the road will know limits into entering and exiting. I guess to each his own. What is true though, you cant ride roads like track. Road conditions where I stay is terrible. And take it easy like you explained will make sense. Going to try this 😁

[@MotoJitsu]

doesn't matter the road...it's a philosophy to think about and practice instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@carlellyn1624]

This semms easy enough with practice but vs 2 is too far next to the yellow line. I'm from NY and the other side always cross the yellow line! I want to stay far away from them

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[@crustyzimmerman3324]

Once the throttle is opened it should be rolled on progressively throughout the remainder of the turn. - Keith Code.

[@MotoJitsu]

not always true for all corners.

[@crustyzimmerman3324]

@@MotoJitsu oh cheers, I found that out, but I thought it was me.

[@emanuelgarcia-l8r]

since you have been to California Superbike Riding School and Champ School, comparing the two schools which of the two is more practical for us to follow as streetriders? our filipino ruding coach claims that no american gp and wsbk champ has been lately so its all european..do you agree that CSS is more advanced than Champ School?

[@crustyzimmerman3324]

@@emanuelgarcia-l8r if you mean me, I haven’t done champ school. To me, it’s all about deconstructing what we’re doing, understanding why and putting it back together. Level 4 CSS is more one on one coaching anyway, so to some extent it’s going to depend on the individual coach and rider. One over the other don’t matter. There’s always something to learn.

[@vesparama]

I'm learning to ride. So in short you're saying one needs to enter a corner at an appropriate speed to complete it successfully and safely? Thanks.

[@MotoJitsu]

Keep learning MotoJitsu.com/courses instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@andrijacerovic7224]

So what do I do if I have a 50 hp bike?

[@MotoJitsu]

then you ride a bit differently when going fast...lots more apex speed and lean angle since you don't have the power.

[@BernardWalter-tt3yv]

Everything you have put on you tube is very educational on bike riding. Best so far

[@MotoJitsu]

:) thanks instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@dustinlerch9272]

Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing something that would be a good idea to have paid for

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@vijayam1]

Brilliant articulation on the U vs V line, makes a hulluva lot difference..

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@fordresurrectionest9556]

Is there any chance you can talk about proper gear selection before entering a corner and exit?

[@MotoJitsu]

The gear you're in depends on the speed you're going, bike you're on, etc.

[@SergS-o7e]

great video and info

[@MotoJitsu]

Glad it was helpful! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@alanIrl99]

Would a 'late apex' line not provide the best compromise ?

[@KaelanRios]

I pass late apex riders with this technique, myself, and with less risk. Again, this is road riding, not track riding.

[@MotoJitsu]

don't worry about the lines...you're missing the point.

[@MattieXMoto]

Great content...but the weekend rossi's want to look cool 😂

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@flyingfox27]

Thanks!

[@MotoJitsu]

No problem! thank you :) back on instagram fyi instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@AVERT-]

Definitely let me know if your ever in New Hampshire!

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@katrinc5859]

Once again, a great educational video with so much information. As a new rider, these videos are just indispensable to my improvement and understanding. I feel safer and empowered.

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks I said in the video don't pay too much attention to the lines, but here we are, you missed the point.

[@katrinc5859]

@@MotoJitsu I'm not sure what spurred this comment - I didn't even mention lines??

[@MotoJitsu]

stupid youtube. I reply to one person and it blends with others.

[@katrinc5859]

Copy

[@paulpugh2480]

Keep preaching it brother, they will get it eventually.

[@MotoJitsu]

hopefully so instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@gujo4351]

In Europe, except police officers, i've never seen anyone countersteer, its like only i know how to do it. Everyone wants to look cool being in neutral or fully leaned position, yet when i countersteer i always scrape the pegs and i'm never afraid of falling since im on top of the bike. If i would be below it, i would quite literally pull in down twords myself.

[@felony53]

If you ride a two wheel vehicle, including a bicycle, at speed, you are countersteering to turn into a corner. Your statement is off base. You are referring to keeping your body in line with the bike vs leaning off into the corner. You need less lean angle per speed and curve radius if you move your body into the turn. Doesn't mean you have to do it, but both types of riders are countersteering regardless. If you rode on the track at track speeds and tried to take a corner sitting straight up vs hanging off, you would possibly run out of tire patch. Street riding is different if you travel at the speed limit or slightly above.

[@MotoJitsu]

you won't unless someone or yourself rides one handed down the road and pushes right or pulls left...then you'll understand. Go do it.

[@Adrenalean767]

Every biker knows how to counter steer,seems like you're talking about counter balancing.

[@gujo4351]

@@Adrenalean767 my bad, thats what i meant. English - 3rd language..

[@Adrenalean767]

@@gujo4351 lol ok. That's being said most people only counter balance when doing very low speed turns,otherwise we stay neutral or hang off the bike a bit.

[@CB19087]

That rider looks like they don't have control of the bike

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@yan-gm4yp]

Motojitsu … Hey your motorcycle video tutorials are extremely extremely valuable lessons for riding safe and confident whilst still really really enjoying my mt 10 sp 🙂 keep up the good work. You have helped me and I’m sure you will reach many others and save lives. Good shit man love you…. Jan the man… from the UK. If u could reply to this with a comment I would appreciate 😉

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@jenniferferris44]

Thanks, I noticed last time I was doing the twisties out here I started taking em wrong, I start near every day doing them wrong, takes me about 30 minutes each time to clean this mistake up

[@MotoJitsu]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@jenniferferris44]

@@MotoJitsu do you cover the difference between new and rusty(a rider starting again as after years of not) riders? People keep comparing the 2 as if they are equal but imo being a rusty rider I have pieces of the knowledge of what I used to be able to do, and impatience with myself when scraping the rust off those skills actually make me worse than when I didn't have them as a brand new rider. Total of 8+ years of riding, 2 months of relearning. I think I was better/safer/less prone to mistakes my first time as a 2 month old rider. Just curious as a trainer if you've seen this often?

[@MotoJitsu]

a lot of time the new riders are the better ones in a class because they're blank slates and don't bring any bad habits with them instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@ChipZilla69]

Wish I could ride with you. I'm in the UK though. Solo ride yesterday and group ride this morning. I'm on a Tiger 900 GT Pro.

[@MotoJitsu]

if you're ever in San Diego, let me know instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@tw1tch09]

I don’t ride but I play Ride 4 a lot and this lesson helps lol

[@MotoJitsu]

lol instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@RidgeRunner5150]

I saw the motogp and sbk comment earlier and great points there and in the vid. Riding a 158hp grandpa bike and an 800lb cruiser, with decades of other bikes I do okay and I'm not racing. However, there are the guys (friends and relatives) think they have to hang off the bike and scrape knees to be someone or demonstrate their 'skillz'.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@ericryngksai1919]

@moto Jitsu by far the best' guider of all time in this generation where everyone comparing themselves & their reels everyday i see loads of in a hurry rider cornering in High speed on going traffic atleast you letting us all know how to actually manuver & enjoy & of course a safe ride,again 👍👍✌️ I have seriously learn a lots of knowledge from your channel I own a 2004 model old bike but yea I guess like you said don't blame the bike get out there & practice countersterring vision throttle brake etc 🤘

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@skrninja636]

Great short but to the point video. Smart advice and techniques. Slow in, fast out, facts. I just subscribed. Thank you MotoJitsu ❤🤙

[@MotoJitsu]

Thanks for the sub! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@overclockinggalaxy]

This diagram is the worst! Apex missed, throttle position etc. And it’s pure physics from high school.

[@MotoJitsu]

I say in the video don't worry too much about the lines, yet here we are, y'all missing the point completely.

[@Kilo_of_Milk]

amazing instructions, cheers

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@nordandelizo8577]

Hello sir, just saw your trail braking short vid, thank you for sharing your thoughts on it. Excellent point, I will definitely try them. 👍

[@MotoJitsu]

welcome! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@dcktater7847]

2:58 only the red line you drew is fast in fast out...

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@lefterisbampaidis5446]

The blue rider is leaned for longer but doesn't have more lean angle. The guy on the first video is many times dangerously close to the double yellow and this should be mentioned too.

[@MotoJitsu]

more speed mid turn = more lean instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@lefterisbampaidis5446]

@@MotoJitsu a V shaped turn, vs a I shaped turn. Yes, more speed equals more lean angle but he will need to point his motorcycle towards the exit and he has way less space to do that. His change of direction, thus the lean angle will be greater but for a shorter period of time.

[@MotoJitsu]

I say in the video don't pay too much attention to the lines

[@Fish-bj1sj]

This makes so much sense. Altho it looks cooler. But as for myself in my 40 starting my bike life just now this is how i wanna ride. Great video!

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks linktr.ee/GregWidmar

[@davidcarvolth7685]

The part that u put volume up was the best clearest explaination.

[@nightzin05]

The biggest compliment I recently got from a friend was "Wow, you almost don't lean the bike compared to me" and I was going about the same speed as him in the twisties while I was on a little 125 and he was on a 250

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@cat793cdumpy]

When I was racing for a while my brother who was A grade said last on the brakes and first on the power is better. So what you are showing proves this and I can tell you I used to round up and pass a lot of bikes with this technique. As Mick Doohan said, the highest corner speed is not always the fastest lap times.

[@MotoJitsu]

whoever gets corner over with faster :) instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@ravedisc]

This is all very interesting and helped me a lot. Honestly, your advice of just leaning in the direction of the corner, using your head (upper body) is tremendous. From there, everything seems a lot easier. Also, slowing a little for having a faster exit (and also sooner!) is one of the safest way. However, on the track, you need to be able to enter a corner with different lines, slower or faster entry speed, slower or faster exit speed, in relation to the other riders around you.

[@MotoJitsu]

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[@TitelSinistrel]

I can see a problem with your diagram straight up. On tight right corners like you show, it is allways a possibility of oncomming traffic cutting the corner. Most if not all safety courses recommend not going beyond the midpoint of your lane during such corners, same thing for left corners not going close to the line and staying closed to the midpoint of the lane in case something big like a bus or truck comes the other way and goes wide in the corner.

[@MotoJitsu]

I said in the video don't pay too much attention to the lines...but here we are...you not understanding the point of the video. instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@dougiequick1]

Im thinking there are two pesky downsides of apexing on public roads? Number one on right handers you are out there closer to oncoming traffic and the on the left handers you are out there closer to road edge ...a place there is often some dirt/gravel in certain mountain areas. Great advice for more track like places though

[@MotoJitsu]

if the road is open...doesn't matter. If it's not, adjust your line. instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@HiwayRides]

Re-learning riding my bike after a long break and since I moved from plains to hills where last mile access is a dirt road followed by 100km twisties with water-filled potholes, loose gravel and mud before a single straight road where I can shift to 4th gear - this is exactly what is helping me be safe, even when average speed is barely 35km/h. Loving the new ability to keep bike straighter on the risky bends that come at you every few seconds for hours on end.

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