Motorcycle Suspension | How does it work?

[@viki9539]

I would love I video like this but on transmission!!! WHAT IS CHAIN TENSION!! why is it important... Why dont all race bikes use belts instead? Or shafts for that matter...

[@MikeonBikes]

I hear you. The reason they don't use shafts is because they produce excessive amounts of anti-squat. It is possible to design around it, but that adds way too much mass for race bikes. I originally had a segment about it in the video but took it away as the video got too long.

[@blipco5]

I believe belts would be more difficult for quick gearing changes at the track. And a belt system is wider and perhaps not as strong. Me, I wish my bikes had belts.

[@awhiteguy24]

What about the fact the power to the wheel would be much less with a shaft or belt.

[@BTrain-is8ch]

Pretty sure I read somewhere that chains are more efficient than belts and shaft-drive. The primary benefit of belt/shaft-drive, low maintenance, doesn't matter in professional racing.

[@HypheaTL]

Shafts are inefficient and weight about 10 X's more than a sprocket and chain. Belts wouldn't be a bad idea, but good luck convincing Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, and/or Yamaha to switch it up anytime soon.

[@tekjess_]

This is another video I will have to watch 7 times over the next month to fully understand it. Keep 'em coming.

[@mopedlyfe2288]

Man you've been a great help so far, I've been doing an internship on the rear suspension design and your all your vids basically summarized the 3 months worth of theory in less than an hour in total. Thanks for sharing!

[@kevenld]

Motorcycle Suspension for Dummies. Very easy to understand. More videos of this type are welcome!

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks!

[@MrYutoob]

this also explains a lot about car suspension as well.

[@AndrewYakovenko]

Great video as usual! However, there's a mistake at 7:45. Moving the wheel axle forward decreases the trail because the contact patch moves forward while the steering axle stays the same.

[@chonglers1513]

Correct! He just got it flipped. Honest mistake🙃

[@komeramusonibertin4900]

Thank you, brother. I hope this is the beginning of my new chapter.

[@braunvanvarden876]

Suspension was also the key reason behind Williams winning consecutive F1 World Championships in the 80s

[@whitefields5595]

Well done here ... a complex and mis-understood subject explained very well. Most folk focus on the engine and leave ride and handling issues till last.

[@VolodymyrPavlyuk]

Another amazing video, Mike! Suspension is such a broad topic and you managed to squeeze its basics into a relatively short video - that's a tremendous work! Having signal processing background (both digital and analogue) I was really happy that Tony Foale in his book described suspension as a frequency filter. So I would recommend that book as well

[@milindsakurkar8431]

I'm from India I have seen most of all of your videos and recently I have purchased a brand new hayabusa and enjoying very very very much with ur helpful videos and I just love to see ur videos every evening and it is my daily routine nowadays I just love it. Love from India. Thank you for all the useful information you r giving to us 👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@aliallen383]

Your videos are awesome, I learn so much. The way you explain detail is easy for the average person to learn what you are sharing. Thank you!

[@yzfrr8959]

Best moto related channel

[@ruanrocharbr]

bro, you're exactly like me haha but i'm with cars. the way you explain, the examples you use, most of the times you use motogp as an example, and thats me, i always use formula 1 or GT as an example of something haha thanks for that video, although im into cars, i got interested in bikes and i'd like to know more about em, and maybe i could drive a motorcycle in the future. Nice contents on this video!

[@MultiGuitarman21]

Easy to follow explanations! The rebound and compression examples at the end helped tremendously on how to set up the bike! any more of them?

[@Lightning535cc]

Hats off .. Motorcycle dynamics is explained in 25 mins . Great thanks

[@dandil]

Triple clamp offset can be theoretically in both directions. moving the front axle forward lowers* trail.

[@baneoffsight4871]

Brilliant Mr Mike hoping to see further in depth analysis of suspension - especially around the track and how to set it up for a persons riding ability, as well as symptoms of a bad suspension set up (i.e. tyre wear, weight distribution, rider feel, etc.)

[@phuctran.]

Now that the suspension got covered for quite a while, may I ask when will you be covering on the topic of brake system? Since I do not see much video talking about them, mostly on cars or bicycle and in my experience knowledge from those fields do not translate as well to motorcycle. Hope you will make a video about brake system soon. Thanks for putting so much effort into making these video

[@MotoTrooper]

Good Lesson on suspensions And a salute to all those fallen Moto GP Riders

[@Wheelietrucker]

Love the video. I can rebuild the engine but fear turning the suspension knobs because I don’t know what I’m doing.

[@kazabubu10]

My 2 cents: @7:27 "moving the forks up in the triple clamps" is essentially lowering the front end. This will "pull" the wheel towards the center of gravity, which will reduce the rake and therefore the trail as well (since it is measured with respect to the vertical through the front wheel axis). I think this way is more intuitive.

[@CyberGasty]

Great video as usual. Kind of reader's digest of Dave Moss on suspension.

[@alanpylam7456]

I like you introducing the books for reference. Great video!

[@jenpsakiscousin4589]

The KR750 go bike had a good mechanical anti dive system. Kork Balington raced that bike for a while, I think he still owns one personally.

[@sivonparansun]

You do a really good job with your content but I think this is especially true with this video. Well done

[@sivonparansun]

Wouldn't moving the triple clamps down reduce your trail and make bike more twitchy ? I thought I heard the opposite in the video around 730

[@devious17]

I've learned something about suspension in general, thanks

[@johnschlesinger2009]

Great video, really well explained and illustrated. Thanks!

[@blipco5]

Very clear and helpful video. As usual. 👍

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks!

[@jacryder735]

A LOT of information, I’ve learned a lot

[@krittinteerasawasdi4333]

Yeahhh!! New video from Mike.

[@bernhtp]

Great presentation! Too bad there was no time to get into dynamic suspension components such as the DDC (dynamic damping control) on my S1000RR. Each of the sections - tires, geometry and suspension - warrant their own full-length video, but putting it all together has its benefits too. Again, great job.

[@stickybucket1851]

Another great video. Thanks, Mike!! 🏍️

[@joncrich]

very helpful video mike! i love your videos! its all quality your my inspiration on my motovlogging. cheers men! :)

[@filmcamera]

A really good video, thanks, but what about preload? Unless I missed it you did not mention it at all

[@wernerheil6697]

EXCELLENT VIDEO !

[@pioneer5839]

Brilliant content!

[@Svetstoya]

Very, Very interesting аs always! By the way I like your model collection. I have many models too, but not these.

[@dailybikes668]

I’m so happy that this channel exist! Thank you very much!!🤝👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@distantidentitymusic]

Great information subbed

[@dylanjones678]

16:00 that's linkage system is called raising rate.

[@johnrobertfrench]

Thank you for a very very outstanding video.

[@GutoFontana]

great vid man

[@31nerf]

I've got an idea based on a problem. What about the cases like myself, when you have a bike consider adjust to road and off road at the same time?? Trail bike in my case. I suppose that when you improve one way you lose in the other way. Because you know super moto maybe you can help

[@irakli_chkhenkeli]

Thank u bro for so much useful video

[@sandeepprasad8353]

You earned a subscriber...!

[@brod515]

I don't understand the point @8:10 about the wheelbase decreasing. both wheels are on the ground. As I understand the wheel base is the distance from the front axle to the rear axle. so how can that distance decrease

[@ayushkaiwart2451]

Good video to get knowledge.

[@silyunumveritas1776]

5:37 - Me: "Oh, man, its over?" (checks video duration) "Oh, good." ....6:12 - downshift too much; been there, done that, 'oh, ship; oh, ship; oh, ship; oh, ship....Whew!' [replaced appropriate expletive].

[@geoffreycheuvart9228]

Hello, thank you for the video. There are a lot of detailed informations, which is really good for deep understanding. I have a question related to rear brake and anti-squat. Am I right if I say that rear brake enables anti-squat ? According to your video "10 Things MotoGP Champions do to Go FASTER", you show how the rear wheels bounces when applying rear brake. But how does it works ? what happen to the rear suspension when applying rear brake ? Thanks a lot for your answer ! cheers 🙂

[@geoffreycheuvart9228]

Ok, I think I have my answer : When you push down on the rear of the motorcycle, you compress the rear suspension, including the rear shock. Applying the rear brake while the rear suspension is compressed introduces resistance to the rotation of the rear wheel. This resistance slows down the rate at which the rear wheel can rebound or return to its original position. As a result, the rear of the motorcycle bounces back slowly because the brake is resisting the motion and effectively damping the rebound of the rear suspension. So If I have well understood, rear brake allows to have additional control to the damping of the motorcycle. It can be used to control the weight transfer when braking, or as an anti-wheelie when we accelerate (because the rear is forced to an anti squat position)

[@hesleyt]

I believe that moving the axel forward provides less trail, not more as you stated, for you are bringing the contact patch closer to the turning point. Am I wrong?

[@ChisungLee]

Thank you for making this. you answered this with rake/trail. If brake hard on front only and hear a click or ting noise should I check fork first or triple clamp? or something else.

[@sacarajordan3085]

If my rear suspension is off will I feel like the rear wheel is hopping because of poor traction your video was very interesting I have a zx10R ninja

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

Please see your owner's manual... Solves a lot of problems, answers lots of questions too. Books, check 'em out!

[@MC-Racing]

thumbs up even before watching :-P

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

*1st* to get full suspension mind blown

[@gksalf10]

A masterpiece... thank you so much for explanation

[@yveslegrand9826]

Too complex ... or too simple. It's very difficult to teach on video while the viewers are either already a bit aware of the basics and looking for something more detailed or very beginners and need more time to get the basics... However this is a good attempt and thank you for the effort!

[@joevo3]

Best explaination... Thank you

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

how can wear increase the frictional force? it seems to me that its just the upper limit of the rubber. like sure it eats up energy, but I don't see it increasing cornering force. am I missing something?

[@idzi756]

Love ur vids

[@swtirisvasiliou7358]

Hey man no more than 6mm for the rear suspension explain it to me with numbers please man 🙏

[@richardfroehlich218]

Nice music. What is the first one called.

[@Bruno615]

Nice Shirt!

[@MikeonBikes]

Merch will be up shortly ;)

[@maximvanderpas230]

hey mike, i have a question. Like u can see on my profile photo i do race a motorbike. Only im still struggeling with the rear brake. when do i need to use it and time it right. release it before steering, only use while steering I don't know. can u explain me?

[@sanketjain9320]

When weight on front increases, the wheelbase decreases. But why would that change the rake?

[@quanbanhmypanda4170]

your videos is very beautiful, thanks you

[@brettlightfoot1802]

Thanks Mike

[@sumanthd02]

Can someone explain how tight chain makes the suspension compress?

[@ronyair3889]

Many many thanks.

[@farzinbi]

Thank you 👌

[@sowmiyanarayanans7259]

Hey buddy can you please make a video on MOTORCYCLE ECU'S please buddy

[@pathfinder.george]

Anti-squat on a EV motorcycle with a hub motor in the rear wheel? How would it work as there's no chain to pull?

[@karthikjairam3297]

Has anyone read the book ? is it possible to get a PDF for it ?

[@kuttalu]

does anti-squat affect acceleration.

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

So, slight understeer is better than oversteer.

[@ponlawathirunjaru4179]

Thank you so much

[@ralphwarom2514]

I'm thinking of raising my bikes ride height. Mostly for port holes. XD.

[@LuckyNikitaBoba]

Are there supermoto classes in the northern CA area?

[@super10romania]

Can you do a video on how to diagnose and correct suspension related issues? For example, if you're losing traction when exiting a corner, you need more/less compression/rebound in the rear/front.

[@MrMagEck]

Superbra!

[@Shooter7250]

i wish you could make a video with common suspension problems, like why the bike goes wide on a turn, why does the bike feel like its skidding over the tarmac even tho there is grip etc etc.. that would be very informative and helpful. thank you !

[@rider65]

All things being equal meaning that if you have the bike at a basic neutral setup it's probably Rider that is causing the problems. Body position and weight placement with regard to center of mass and center of gravity have a significant impact on handling characteristics. Learn how to ride in a neutral position. Remember to use your hips as well as your hands shift your center of Mass to affect the center of gravity. I would probably read up or watch videos with regard to dirt bikes and Motocross in this area. That should help you get a better understanding

[@TheBingo1951]

ISTRUTTIVO !!!!

[@WennieBoy01]

I subscribed

[@theadventuringspirit83]

This seems to be university level information and instruction. Personally I have 0% interest in this, but this is good info for any biker to have, especially if you ever plan on adjusting your suspension, sprocket sizes, etc.

[@radupitica]

Love the video. Just too bad that book is hundreds of dollars lol

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

Spring rate and oil viscosity must be changed together

[@tumpy1]

God bless you

[@faidularcs]

Better explain cbr1000rr-r 2020

[@xs433]

I'm still confused with the anti-squat thing...

[@keith5790]

when accelerating the bike squats because of the mass and G-force. this results as the front being lighter hence loss of traction in the front. to prevent this, the chain pulls on the rear sprocket and anti-squats because of the angle of the swingarm

[@samthewizzy]

I almost got hit by my brother’s motorcycle a few hours ago

[@dougnash6316]

👍👍

[@roshaneshwar8154]

Man suggest me some youtube channel's similar to your channel

[@flovanhapert5814]

My brain after watching this video : :o

[@rider65]

A moto with no suspension... A push bike! 😄👍

[@DavidKimbell]

Anyone else think that the background music beeping is distracting? It's in all the videos

[@pnwtree]

one of the book recommended is 700 dollars D:

[@jessefpv9217]

Simple Explanation. You want the Bikes Suspension to work under you NOT Threw You. Right?

[@kurvenguidewatch9032]

Hi Mike. During the Husky 701 bounce-test in your Video...... Your Rear-End, your Shock Rebound setting is much to slow, to much Rebound-Damping. Esspecially in Low-Speed Extension....on the top End of Extension. Also a good motorcycle Suspension Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5jKdqeJqbiAmac ....and on. Old but good!

[@ericoschmitt]

And I thought bicycle geometry was complex...