2024 Livewire Del Mar S2 Review - Our Most Negative Positive Review

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Motorcycle.com

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Ай бұрын

The Del Mar is the first electric bike from Livewire since it formally branched off from its parent company, Harley-Davidson. Inspired by Harley's history with flat track, it's hard to lock the Del Mar into a particular category. Instead, Ryan and Troy ride it around to see if it satisfies one key requirement: is it fun? The results may surprise you.
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@AdventuresonZero
@AdventuresonZero 26 күн бұрын
It's a wicked bike to ride, and like everything it has limitations - just have to operate within them. I've got over 4400 miles on mine now as a launch edition. I absolutely love it. The only issue I've had with suspension is bottoming out on large bumps and rocks when riding off-road, but otherwise it's been a fantastic machine.
@MCCJustMotos
@MCCJustMotos Ай бұрын
I’ve clocked 3500+ miles on my Del Mar. I avg 80-110 miles Highway speed range. Just saying
@Bizbinski
@Bizbinski 22 күн бұрын
$41 for lunch that’s CRAZY!
@DadMichoMurphy
@DadMichoMurphy 26 күн бұрын
This has about the same range as my old ironhead sportster with a peanut tank. I never got stranded, but it was definitely a bar hopper bike. You certainly won't be touring the country on this, however if you take this (on your trailer) to Sturgis, it will win every stoplight race! :)
@Mr1badb0y
@Mr1badb0y 28 күн бұрын
Great review guys! Minimum range metric for me is 120 mi of semi-spirited riding, not there yet but this definitely looks like a leap forward, especially price point.
@markmcintosh7095
@markmcintosh7095 Ай бұрын
Range is my major issue.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 18 күн бұрын
Yep, I also think the 19 inch wheels are a mistake. Why not 17 to improve handling and save weight / cost.
@nickx8411
@nickx8411 28 күн бұрын
The seat sucks, the brakes suck, the suspension sucks, the price is too high, but it has a lot of power… yup it’s a Harley😆😉
@AbnormalWrench
@AbnormalWrench Ай бұрын
I'm surprised by the range. I have a 2021 Zero FX and it has about the same range, but the Del Mar is more HP and a bigger battery
@AbnormalWrench
@AbnormalWrench Ай бұрын
I have beat the crap out of my poor Zero, mostly dirt biking. It has never had a single issue in 8000 miles of severe abuse, btw
@phillipbatho3213
@phillipbatho3213 26 күн бұрын
Where is that torque measured? At the countershaft? The wheel? It's definitely a lot compared to what an ICE bike has in top gear, but an ICE bike has five lower gears with higher torque at the countershaft with each reduction. It would be nice to compare apples to apples.
@SLFYSH
@SLFYSH Ай бұрын
Really cool features combined with absolutely massive and unacceptable negatives. NOT a chance.
@fudgeismedicine
@fudgeismedicine Ай бұрын
194 ft/lbs but it's meant to put around town... Why not get a scooter or a small displacement bike for that? Top of line expensive bikes meant for short distances are useless.
@Motorcyclecom
@Motorcyclecom 27 күн бұрын
I couldn't help finding myself comparing it to my Vespa... which seems more practical around town.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan Ай бұрын
Too bad is just sooo expensive, love the looks 😊
@JimB-uu6yx
@JimB-uu6yx 28 күн бұрын
A little side note: I think the mirrors would be a little less obtrusive and more effective if they were turned 180 degrees lengthwise with the "long end" facing out. Have a look at the stock photos and compare...
@Motorcyclecom
@Motorcyclecom 27 күн бұрын
Yep. There had been some confusion within the fleet over which way they should be oriented.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 18 күн бұрын
Have taco’s and electric bikes been connected on this channel since the Victory Empulse R or are taco’s more of a universal subject? I’ve been asking my wife for a chicken raspberry taco ever since! 😁
@seventybuick
@seventybuick 21 күн бұрын
With all of the money and resources why can't Harley hire someone who is not a Harley cruiser rider. They need a KTM or Triumph racer to advise them on how to set up a suspension.
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th Ай бұрын
Haven’t even seen the video yet but $41 from a taco truck is cheap? Holy F! Just rode 105 miles on my modified Honda Monkey. Still have two blips on the fuel gauge (tank is 1.3gal). 65 miles is just stupid, at $15k it’s ridiculous.
@treystone1993
@treystone1993 Ай бұрын
Delusional. These bikes make sense to absolutely no one. Too expensive, too little range, gtfoh. At that price point only the dufuss hipters would even consider one of these. At the end of the day, this is a novelty at best, and a crazy expensive one.
@Joric78
@Joric78 Ай бұрын
I guess it depends on how many tacos they put away.
@Motorcyclecom
@Motorcyclecom 27 күн бұрын
Ha! Definitely a bit of sarcasm there.
@henryslager9406
@henryslager9406 27 күн бұрын
My first thought was about the $41 tacos as well 😂
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 Ай бұрын
At this price I would rather have an MT-10.
@dukeloo
@dukeloo Ай бұрын
why not evaluate csc rx1. lots of kids are buying dirtbike ebikes
@jpslaym0936
@jpslaym0936 27 күн бұрын
Electric motorcycle mfg need to figure out how to get their bikes to perform at least as well as an ICE counterparts before they try to sell them for double the price. At a minimum
@davidrsmith2417
@davidrsmith2417 28 күн бұрын
"All the negatives" absolutely matter, especially if you buy one. 'Cause, after the honeymoon is over, the Negatives remain. With time they become more and more of an irritant and your (moto) eyes start to wander . . . !
@NemoEUC
@NemoEUC 21 күн бұрын
first downvote..show your range stats, the route you took, what ride mode you were on, top speed, avg speed, moving time, charging rate in kw. The average person is going to be able to do 90-100 miles in a city like LA, SF, and NYC because thats the environment it was designed for. Taking it on twisting roads and pushing it to its limits is like using a knife to screw in a nail, no shit it going to be disappointing, it’s not designed for that.l
@rchatte100
@rchatte100 Ай бұрын
All good, except crazy price!
@timviei
@timviei Ай бұрын
How did you touch those mirrors? Wtf are you doing with your hand? Jesus
@jameslee5428
@jameslee5428 28 күн бұрын
Hummm 14, 15 grand, 60 plus miles of range .. all this electric car talk/motorcycle talk is still the Ford model T’s Of yester year… A brand new electric car/electric motorcycle will be outdated within a year or two with new technologies regarding their batteries/improvements. Give it another 5 to 10 years that is when you were really see radical improvements in the electrified field.
@paulgolde6490
@paulgolde6490 27 күн бұрын
Oops! Ghost in the machine! Will the Deadwire fit in the back of a Tesla CyberUrinal? Now THAT would be cool! 😂 And “gas motorcycles” are not annoying unless real world morons like those portrayed in the famous South Park episode replace the quiet OEM muffler with something truly annoying as per the beginning of this video.
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 26 күн бұрын
😂
@misterwin2393
@misterwin2393 25 күн бұрын
Land Energy District. Costs less, weighs less, performs amazing and the battery's swappable, it's THE BEST electric motorcycle out right now and it's not even close for 2nd
@bikerbeliever8169
@bikerbeliever8169 Ай бұрын
I love the styling but electric just isnt there. Its so inconvenient. No range. Who buys a bike that cant ride very far? Electric aint the future. Back to the drawing board.
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 Ай бұрын
So what is this mythical target audience? I wonder if it ever actually existed....
@jpslaym0936
@jpslaym0936 27 күн бұрын
Mentally challenged and/or head trauma survivors that have won major liability lawsuits ($$)
@justlucky13
@justlucky13 Ай бұрын
No thanks
@RK-bl8uv
@RK-bl8uv Ай бұрын
meh.
@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778
@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778 Ай бұрын
Electric bikes defiantly have a future. I rented a Zero last year and was greatly impressed. But a Live Wire? No. Never been the least bit interested in a Harley (in 40 years of riding) and I would not touch a Live Wire because of the Harley association. Harley's years are numbered owing to the aging of it's customer base and Live Wire cannot surive the demise of HD. Live Wire pricing is untenable and its sales vertually non existence.
@kruzininla
@kruzininla Ай бұрын
Electric: people most likely can’t see you, now they can’t even hear you!!
@motocattie5242
@motocattie5242 Ай бұрын
TBH, this is the same w/ any bike w/ a legal/factory exhaust. Not to mention those pipes are pointed in the wrong direction to make a difference, and a person in a car w/ the stereo blasting while checking social media on their cell while in Tesla auto-drive is not really noticing much anyway. They may fail to notice you even if you're in an emergency vehicle w/ a siren blaring and lights flashing. As a rider, never assume that anyone sitting inside an enclosed box on wheels with six or more blind spots can see or hear you, no matter how big, bright, or loud your bike is. You are 100% responsible for your own safety out there. Stay emgaged amd aware, practice your skills. doubt everyone on the road, amd stay alive.
@MrWhitelightning73
@MrWhitelightning73 Ай бұрын
They should do different paint 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈🌈 schemes…. They will sell a lot more 😂
@flytoday
@flytoday Ай бұрын
Harley Davidson have no vision
@Scout4x
@Scout4x Ай бұрын
Don't care.
@starrider1900
@starrider1900 Ай бұрын
How much more money does this company need to lose Please go away
@guidodelgiudice5
@guidodelgiudice5 Ай бұрын
One bajillion
@BenButler50
@BenButler50 Ай бұрын
E-bikes suck
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 29 күн бұрын
E-bikes don’t suck e-motorcycles do
@BenButler50
@BenButler50 29 күн бұрын
@@xclent1975 correct
@Ritte13
@Ritte13 Ай бұрын
Don’t bother testing e bikes……no one wants them
@elithegreat6463
@elithegreat6463 Ай бұрын
What a better Metaphor than testing a Shit No one will buy Toy, than testing it in a Shit-hole Democrat ruined, over taxed, progressive un-American state like California. First off the Bike looks like the teleportation Pod from "The Fly", and then this company puts "Cruise-control" on a Toy which if you think about it, Cruise will give it LESS Range, just adding to the Range Anxiety producing POS....Please !!! Lets Stop with these Electric Crap !!!
@chrisgaines184
@chrisgaines184 28 күн бұрын
The electric “crap” is not stopping. Your un-America crap needs to stop.
@elithegreat6463
@elithegreat6463 28 күн бұрын
@@chrisgaines184 In-American,??🤣, The USA doesn’t want these Bullshit electric toys, we love our Gasoline/Oil, Cars/Bike that run on Dead Dinosaurs. So re-Boot On what you think about America.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 Ай бұрын
Just junk. Why pay $16k when you can get something so much better than this.
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