Looks like a lot of work went into making this video. Thank you, very enjoyable.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
We try to give you a detailed review, with all the good and bad points. Glad you enjoyed watching. Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss out on future reviews.
@graemeroberts57303 жыл бұрын
Too cheap a build for over £100k.
@barryr21673 жыл бұрын
First off, an excellent review as usual Peter. But omg, I will be so surprised if they sell more than a handful. So many unforgivable design errors...the garage doors are a joke, the lounge looks like a desert wasteland, the toilet not being separated from the bedroom, the lack of headroom, the poor fit and finish generally, no double floor and on and on. Terribly disappointing and I am sure (from my experience in automotive product planning) that the bean counters have very little understanding of the concept of value vs cost.
@fraserhardmetal71433 жыл бұрын
Tried and tested poor Autotrail quality - just more of it to go wrong. Still using the clunky Sargent electrics too. They need to up their game to compete with better European offerings. A lower initial cost is not always a sound long-term investment.
@andrewmitchell88592 жыл бұрын
The old ones they made looked beautiful, unfortunately got a bad press 🤷🏼♂️
@MotorhomeCampervan2 жыл бұрын
Yes, quite a few issues first time around
@mihaelafilipescu58182 жыл бұрын
To expensive and not practical at all. That the reason I prefer the German motorhome with double floors and better quality of the motorhome I am tolking about the "bürstner".
@edwardmarsland67743 жыл бұрын
too many negatives for the money
@beradogs9223 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bad day at IKEA made into a motor home.
@derekt76063 жыл бұрын
No self levelling. Not four season. Bed poor. Garage poor.
@EV-Diary3 жыл бұрын
It’s still a well priced van, I can’t see how it’s not a four season van
@johnb3073 жыл бұрын
Very poor quality for over 100k, will definitely not be considering this.
@walthamwalker3 жыл бұрын
It's got a shed not a garage
@glynfellowes3 жыл бұрын
Typically British okay for a weekend away if you can afford it. If you can afford it buy a German tag axle you get more bang for your euro.
@hotwheels1003 жыл бұрын
seating for 10 but a kitchen for 1 🙄 a lot of wasted space imo
@drivingthefrontier3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I was surprised how many fixtures and fittings are so very similar to my Auto-trail Frontier Savannah (2014). So that's 7 years old. The gas locker cover and the side lift up locker with the leisure batteries, not to mention virtually all of the interior look. As Peter said in the review, it's a tried and tested layout. It is a shame they have not yet adopted the slot in post table and relying, in my view, on the somewhat old-fashioned table with flip-down legs. So much like the Comanche though, just en extended Frontier model. Thanks, Peter for these, I enjoy watching them every few weeks.
@NeilLeSheepyEpstein3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Shame about all the niggling negatives. If I had a 100k I would look elsewhere. They should bring you on board to help design these things.
@EV-Diary3 жыл бұрын
I still think it’s good for the price as you get everything included as standard. If you go to a German van then everything is an option and would easily spend £120,000
@philipellis70393 жыл бұрын
Nice review but not sure on the layout ( how many people in motorhomes are holding dinner parties all the time?) and I’d be looking for a double floor at this money. Probably want more garage space as well. Nice to see a British A Class but this isn’t working for me.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Not so much dinner parties, perhaps, but for inviting friends in for a glass of vino in the evening. It'll appeal to owners club ralliers, etc. The HB version would give you a bigger garage (and higher bed)
@philipellis70393 жыл бұрын
@@peterv3642 yes, some people have motorhomes because they go to events rather than holidays, a friend of mine has a huge motorhome and they use it to attend bike scrambling. So, I can see if that’s how you use it you’d want a lot of internal space and not bothered about manoeuvrability. But for a couple or family touring around the U.K. and into Europe there are better layouts ( in my opinion). One of the things that puts me off A class is the driver’s door on the ‘wrong’ side so I like the idea of a U.K. built one. Although unless I find £100k down the back of the sofa it’s a fairly academic point at the moment!
@Daz555Daz3 жыл бұрын
I find it so odd when motorhomes like this get basic stuff wrong like the swivel seats (can't put your feet up) and the bed (can't sit up in bed). It's like the designers have never actually used a motorhome.
@peterv36422 жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of motorhomes would be improved by the designers spending more time actually using them! The best designs often come from smaller brands where the boss is a keen motorhomer
@michaelmorley65223 жыл бұрын
Well presented video, the motorhome as a possible purchase? No.
@greenjacket663 жыл бұрын
he gave to many negatives its not for me
@tony358423 жыл бұрын
No mention of heating? I'd expect it to be Alde for that price. That dining table is straight out of a '70s caravan.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's Alde. Thought I'd said that, apologies if not. There was a lot to cover on this 'van
@gealinga19942 жыл бұрын
That table 😂😂😂
@thegrinch8161 Жыл бұрын
She is a beautiful home on wheels and she’d be perfect for my two ridgebacks and myself but eight people would be a definite no no for me
@jimholden34943 жыл бұрын
Great review but too much to pay for a low shower.
@alistairmullay36833 жыл бұрын
We had a new Mohican in 2005. The build quality was appalling. I can't remember ever doing a trip without something going wrong.
@greenjacket663 жыл бұрын
its like frankistiens monster
@Palacepayne12 жыл бұрын
No double floor...poor garage.. Next
@peterv36422 жыл бұрын
Plenty of German alternatives if you want a double floor and bigger garage, but they tend to cost more. Adria's Sonic 810 always looked good value but it's not in the 2022 range
@gregchapman55562 жыл бұрын
Really don’t see why anyone would buy it. Space is totally wasted. I don’t want to eat at a wallpaper table. You just don’t get enough for your money.
@MotorhomeCampervan2 жыл бұрын
A big part of the appeal will surely be to Auto-Trail Comanche owners who want an A-class?
@july998877662 жыл бұрын
Great review.. so many negatives.. space is so less for such a long motorhome..you will fall asleep by the time that windscreen comes down
@MotorhomeCampervan2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. We always try to tell it how it is...
@chuckstoll2652 жыл бұрын
Why can't we make motor homes over here in the states?
@jonm95013 жыл бұрын
There are two big square button type things on the side of each captains chair which allow them to heighten the seats to be level with the rest of the sofas. But I would much rather that, than have steps everywhere.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can - of course - raise the cab seats if you're extremely tall, but you can't lower the (a tad too high) sofas if you're average height. The settees could be lower without introducing any steps in the floor
@EV-Diary3 жыл бұрын
Yes, been waiting for this review love theses reasonable priced large tag axel motorhomes
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Hope you liked the review. Have you seen the Knaus Live I 900 LEG? - that's another well-priced tag-axle model
@marcus577 Жыл бұрын
I am now entering a competition to win this on BOTB go tour Europe.
@MotorhomeCampervan Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@yukime763 жыл бұрын
The door too small
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Generally, only German makers seem to have gone for the wide entrance doors, although there are others
@samphillips41243 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Portland Oregon, USA, is rhat 32 ir 34 ft?. .other that the right hand drive, we like it!
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Just under 29ft
@pdxxtqhf2 жыл бұрын
Very disappointed with the review. He must have struggled to make those negative comments when writing that script. It's not the only 4 berth motorhome that separates the toilet from the front beds. He made a big thing of the captain seats being lower than the sofa, the captain seats will raise to be level. So many times my feet are on the floor but my wife's don't reach, we still bought the furniture. Why would anyone sit fully upright in bed? I cannot leave out the negative comments about driving an 8.79m motorhome and blind spots at roundabouts, if you can't drive it don't buy it. Another professional reviewer struggling to find negatives to appear clever. Very Very Disappointed 😡😡
@Anthonya543 жыл бұрын
Peter mentioned that the front seats don’t swivel 180 degrees but I’m sure they do. I have a 2019 Comanche and they do. You just have to move the seat back on its runners as you swivel it around. Also the seats height can be raised which brings them to almost the same height as the bench seat.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get the seats all the way round in the GF. As for raising the cab seats, then they would be too high too! I'd want the settees lower
@jpofgwynedd38783 жыл бұрын
It's all very well, but if they want really impress, then they'll lop about 8 feet off the back and put a slide on it.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
European manufacturers have rarely gone for slide-outs because of the potential for them to leak
@stirlingmotors3 жыл бұрын
I hope its a lot better than the original,I had one from new the worst van I ever owned ,part exchanged afternoon 3 months.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
It's a lot better than the first Grande Frontier. I think that was a difficult lesson in A-classes for Auto-Trail but this time they have been able to piggyback the experience of other Trigano brands. Rather surprised that they used the GF name again, though.
@adamstokoe89663 жыл бұрын
This is the best uk motorhome ive seen and it has nothing on the us models
@kevinhornbuckle3 жыл бұрын
Is the engine diesel?
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Yes, 2.3-litre Multijet diesel
@pengeran2 жыл бұрын
I prefer manual blind curtain..it faster
@peterv36422 жыл бұрын
I think makers equate "electric" with "more upmarket"
@pdxxtqhf2 жыл бұрын
If it had been manual the complaint would be that it should be electric 😡
@pengeran2 жыл бұрын
@@pdxxtqhf that's why we called human🤣🤣🤣
@pdxxtqhf2 жыл бұрын
@@pengeran I'm very sorry but I don't understand how your comment applies to this selective biased review.
@JamesSmith-ui2hv3 жыл бұрын
No , it sound like a empty delivery van while driving , it doesn't have any sound proofing , deadening or acoustic insulation to avoid most of the road sounds , it helps using air suspension for a smooth and quite ride , it doesn't have air levelers a new standard for an A class , the length of the chassis is too short for the length of the body , it looks odd and it will be scratching the back all the time when you go up in certain areas the dinning ''table'' no comment , they kept the window wipers from the original chassis model and change for a bigger wind screen they are very small , I like the door of the gas bottle, it should be standard for every door not handles no key locks, I like Island bed .100K? great reviewer , the vehicle ........
@douglashouston813 жыл бұрын
i like it but how many camp sites can i get to in it,not a,lot in cornwall i bet
@EV-Diary3 жыл бұрын
Theses vans are designed to tour Europe not the tiny back roads of Cornwall, get a camper van for that
@douglashouston813 жыл бұрын
@@EV-Diary I know mate,just having a laugh 😊
@Jan123.3 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@dalefountain92693 жыл бұрын
Nice one Auto-Trail. An A class for the UK market. I say that because I would consider this motorhome. I don't think they will sell many in the EU.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
I don't think Auto-Trail is exporting currently but, with UK demand so high, the factory in Grimsby is employing more staff again. The Grande Frontier is very much designed to UK tastes and they're only building one a week (across the three models in the range), so I don't think they need export sales.
@dalefountain92693 жыл бұрын
@@peterv3642 I'm pleased to see a dedicated A class for us Brit's. Great idea from Auto Trail. Thanks Peter.
@f.i.g.llc.33743 жыл бұрын
I have to say that you can't get that much motorhome on this side of the water for that small of a price. I would park that on 5 acres and call it home. Peter Vaughan reviews are legendary.
@peterv36423 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoy them
@LeonardoSummers2 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting that into a site
@peterv36422 жыл бұрын
As with any large motorhome you'll need to check that the site can accommodate it but there are larger motorhomes than this. You'll be OK on most sites belonging to the Caravan and Motorhome Club
@johnlong32142 жыл бұрын
I live i hope that one day a manufacturer will make one for the taller person, can't help thinking that they are losing a lot of custom by only catering for Mr. average. Another good video👍
@pdxxtqhf2 жыл бұрын
Just viewed some other videos, I am shocked at how many really good standard features he left out of the review.
@spendingkidsinheritance19593 жыл бұрын
Would not buy another auto trial 3years old 60% damp in locker not acceptable