Thanks for sharing your experience. I do a lot of adventure riding in South African and Namibia and there is always a mix of lots of tar to get places and wonderful gravel roads and fairly extreme tracks. I have been using a Motoz Tractionator GPS on my KTM950S. I was using a Metzeler Karoo 3 on front. It was a very good combo for virtually everything. They did well on all types of dirt and the tar riding, & was superb even at speeds around 180kmh. I changed the front to a Continental TKC 80 as I was going to do trip in Namibia that entailed sections of bad sand, where I found the Karoo 3 front tyre use to wash a bit too much for my liking. The TKC80 was scary at first on tar, showing an instability above 160km when it was new, but got more stable when it wore in, but not as good as the Karoo 3 front at speed on tar. On gravel and sand the combo of the Tractionator GPS and TKC 80 was wonderful. The GPS can spin easily if pushed (much more than the Tractionator Adventure which my brother has on his KTM 1190), but the compromise that the GPS has given me has been good. Having the TKC 80 on front has given me huge confidence on dirt and especially the ability to rely on our front brake on dirt. I have no ABS so everything is done with great sensitivity. Going down steep descents , the GPS has a tendency to lock up too quickly, but if you run them softer they are better. This is where the Tractionator Adventure would be better. Great tyre combo's. I have 10 000km left on the GPS and its about done. Will be doing another trip of about 800km and then I think there will be minimal center tread left (below 1mm) Would replace right now with the same tyre - Motoz Tractionator GPS, but there is no stock left in South Africa at this time (150/70 - 18) - Not impressed with the importers in this regard. Hope my feedback helps.
@markbevans8564Ай бұрын
Wise application sir, well done. I’ve done the MotoZ GPS on the rear and the MotoZ Dual Venture tubeless front tire on my Norden 901 for the very same reason as you 👍 Many need to be aware of this thought process 😉
@kcrush15 жыл бұрын
I mixed matched my Motoz Tractionator Adventure in the rear, and a Michelin Anakee Wild in the front. Some riders on the trails see my tire combo and look at me like I’m sleeping with my sister, but I find it’s a great traction combo. The Michelin is a radial and behaves excellent on all surfaces. The Motoz is a beast and I can dig trenches all day long. The road noise is there of course, but not loud enough where I can’t use my iTunes on my Bluetooth helmet to drown out the drone.
@craigm39943 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review I am on my third set of MOTOZ GPS Tractionators and I love them, I was thinking of the MOTOZ Adventure on the front as you have done on your review so my next set that’s what I will do. I am in Australia so lots of gravel and sand. Thanks for a great review
@carolineobrien22453 жыл бұрын
“Moat Oz” as in Oz-stralia. Good review , thx.
@peterrick33395 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Fitted a Tactionator GPS front on 1250GS and went for 150kms ride with about 50/50 sealed/unsealed. After a really worrying and somewhat scary start (mould release extremely slippery), i am impressed in both unsealed & sealed road riding but, noisy & lumpy. Strangely, move off the center of the tyre a bit and they go smoother & quiet. The tyre has great bump absorption and makes rough surface seem smoother, tracks and corners great on loose stoned hard packed base unsealed roads and has great edge grip on sealed roads. About the go on a 3000 km trip to some alpine roads (all sealed as the other bikes going are all road bikes), and while i think the tyres will handle the sealed road corners OK, not sure whether i can put up with the noise, the lumpy ride and vibes into the handlebars as it will be a 1000 km grind there & back to get to the good riding roads. Maybe (hopefully) the noise & vibes may reduce as the kms increase and the leading edges of the tread blocks round off a bit.
@thomasrosenwirth70355 жыл бұрын
I run then Adventure tire. Doing more aggressive offroading and less switchbacks (though I still like pushing the limit on asphalt). Got a 790 Adv R and didn‘t yet finish a set on her but had them on my 800GS. Rear lasted 5.000km with usable tread depth (6.000 total). Front was down to the half approx. Run the set of GPS on a 1200 GSA for 2.000km and really loved them onroad while they still have a reasonable traction offroad. They would last probably 2x the Adventure Tire.
@brucecowell28184 жыл бұрын
Your thinking is exactly the same as mine, and you're using the exact combo I want to try, so this vid is very timely for me. I live in rural Canada and ride a lot of deep loose gravel. I don't mind the back end swinging around trying to find its way, however the few times that I have put my bike down in deep gravel is because the front end washes out. I've just sold my 2018 Africa Twin A/S and will take delivery of a 2020 790 Adventure in a few weeks. I know from many years of experience that on a luggage laden bike on a long trip that I will always get at least twice the mileage out of a front compared to a rear tire, so this combo makes sense. I'm looking forward to trying this combo on the 790. Typically on a 6 - 10,000 Km trip I'll ride 60+% on road and 30+% offroad mileage-wise, but those numbers are opposite time-wise, so good offroad capability is paramount. The Africa Twin was an awsome Adventure Touring bike, but just too big and heavy for the kind of riding I want to do. Thanks for a great vid.
@peterrick33395 жыл бұрын
Your comments about a more aggressive front tyre for off road and a more 'road' tyre for the rear mirror my own thoughts. ATM i am running a Motoz GPS front and the remains of a Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 on the rear on my BMW 1250GS. Good sealed road combo wet/dry & hot/cold and for most of the unsealed i ride (when dry) this suffices and sort of forces me to slow down some and enjoy the ride longer and check out the scenery. Will be fitting a part used Motoz GPS 4,500 kms rear very soon. Before, with the GPS rear and a 80/20 adventure front, the rear GPS offered plenty of grip when lent over coming out of corners with power on. When it lost grip the traction control kicked in and kept it all together. If i rode a bit more unsealed & tracks a Motoz Adventure tyre front & GPS rear likely would be a great combo. I sometimes ride with a guy who has a GSA and has Motoz Tractionator Adventures front & rear and on twisty sealed roads he keeps up with me, or i hold him up :), seemingly effortlessly. I am about at the limit of my trust in the GPS front and no way would i trust the Adventure front like he does. He says they squirm around a bit mid corner and he either has bigger balls or less sense imo. Maybe both. And the GPS fronts wear rate is low and i will possibly get 14,000 kms and this would be the most kms i have ever got from a front tyre. The rear GPS will likely go 10,000 kms if i look after it a bit and moderate the power application. I look forward to you providing info about the longevity of the tyre combo you are now running.
@rx72nr3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I’m going with the Motoz tractionator gps on my sidecar build.
@ronanrogers41275 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your opinions, thanks...be interested to know how you go with mileage on them. BTW being an Australian company (often abbreviated to Oz), they’re pronounced with the emphasis on oz, not moto z...no biggie
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Ronan Rogers thanks for the correction. I have been wondering which way was the right way to say it. Thanks for watching and I’ll correct it in my next rev.
@3niknicholson5 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I value your experience and opinion on front vs rear tyre choice. You've given me food for thought. Thank you.
@1JEEPNICK15 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like that you mixed up tire models and makes sense. I have the MotoZ GPS front and rear on my Africa twin and they have been great on street and gravel. In Michigan we have a lot of sand and I’ll be trying them once the snow clears up.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Sciberras Outdoors it’s great to hear that you’re liking them. I’m also stopped up for the winter but really looking forward to running these tires some more. Thanks for watching!
@mvjoshi4 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video. You seem to have hit the optimal tyre combo for an adv bike. How I wish such tyres were as readily available in India as they are in the USA or Europe...
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
Oliverider thank you. There are many people in my country who don’t appreciate how fortunate we are. I try to always be grateful. Ride with a smile!
@richardsprings14144 жыл бұрын
I have a set of the mottaz traction a to GPS on my applica twin I have currently 11000 miles and they still have tread in the rear best of travels in good luck
@dynamicloveministries3343 жыл бұрын
Inhave used many different tires on the front. At the moment I have the Motoz GPS on the front. I ised TKC 80 also. The best one on sand and gravel I used was heidenhau. Very stable.
@machupikachu1085 Жыл бұрын
Hi DLM. What Heidenhau tire did you use for the front? I live in the desert so I am looking for decent traction. What are you running right now? Thanks!
@GsaGuy3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Keep the videos coming and cheers!
@tumadsvids5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, going same route as I prefer a solid front end in the dirt.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Michael Irschick I love the combination so far! Thank for watching.
@Dirtpoorhomesteader5 жыл бұрын
fantastic video!!! this has finally pushed me to get these tires. My main concern was the confidence on the road with them. Obviously these wont be as peg scrapping as the anakee 3's but I need something to stop my GSA front from wandering so much on gravel and light sand. Exactly like you said in the video I could almost care less what my rear does as far as veering left or right but dang when that front tire veers its so unsettling! Its one thing if your in a slop hole and your front tire veers because its expected but I have had numerous times that the anakees veered and I wasnt expecting it because I was on what appeared to be packed gravel or dirt. Nothing against the anakee 3's because its really amazing what they are capable of and they have been great and its kind of a tough switch but I have had so many close calls off road at moderate speeds that I feel for the sake of safety I need to switch. If I rode in groups I might keep the anakees but I am often in very remote areas alone. I dont scrape pegs anyway so I wont be missing much from the anakees
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Branion Woody I think you’ll be happy with the change. I’m impressed with how confidence inspiring they are.
@schwambschwamb76824 жыл бұрын
Good review. I have been struggling with the same tire experience with the TKC’s. I will give your recommendation a try. Thanks!
@spotthedogg2 жыл бұрын
Look at the new MotOZ (OZ for Australia)Tractionator Dual Venture front, that’s my next setup with Tractionator Adventure rear
@Britishshooter5 жыл бұрын
Excellent combo, very interesting comparison to the TCK80 too.I am sure that the front will resist side slip on gravel and soft sand better than the TCK on cornering. Will be interested to hear about wear on the rear, I reckon it will be much better, maybe double the TCK but have no idea if it is better or worse grip wise throughout it's wear life. My guess is that they will exceed expectation.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Britishshooter I have heard great things about the Motoz tires. I will definitely do another review on them when they’re worn down. Thanks for watching!
@4imazupi4 жыл бұрын
Thank your for your review on the Moto Z tires. What is your experience with riding this combination on what tarmac? Thank you.
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
Klaus Nettesheim I have yet to ride them in the wet yet, believe it or not. Lol. Maybe I’ve just been lucky. Thanks for watching and ride with a smile!
@carlosparra7527 Жыл бұрын
Hi, can you share the tire size that you installed on both sides?
@brettmatson90522 жыл бұрын
Thank s again
@johnsapi41465 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your review. I Have a BMW 1200GS, I got a MotoZ tractionator at rear, was a good tire, It was with 10,000Kms whenit starts to crack between the knobs. I did get a replacement tire, that as nice. Now I have only 3,000 Kms on it and they are OK! I'm in Canada, meaning only next summer I can put more kms and give a good review.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
john sapi thanks for watching! I love these tires so far but like you I’m buried by winter now will have to wait for summer to test them further. I’ll be riding into Alberta in June and can’t wait to try them out in the Canadian Rockies.
@johnsapi41465 жыл бұрын
@@LIVEFORMOTO I'm in Calgary, Please contact-me The Rockies are my backyard.... We can ride together!!
@usmcshepherdE95 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review...my dealership here in S. CA was telling me about them today so when I got home I found your review to watch. I have to do mostly highway riding as I live in Yuma and have to ride 3+ hours to really get to anything unless I’m riding around town so I want a good road tire that will be a little better for the gravel / forest service roads then the stock GSA tires. Was the GPS rear fairly planted in the corners on the road? Any experience with them in wet conditions yet? BTW...my riding season is just beginning now as the bike has sat in the garage all summer thanks to our 110+ heat this past summer, so glad I can finally get out and ride a little!!
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Hi Shepherd! Thanks for watching! Im pretty happy with these tires so far! The biggest thing for me was finding a good front tire that would stay relatively planted on gravel roads and the Tractionator "Adventure" that I put on the front does an awesome job of that. At the same time I don't feel that I have lost any grip at speed or lean angle either. The rear Tractionator "GPS" tire is likewise awesome. It seems to hook up really well when you have it spinning in the dirt. Even more surprising is that it is really stable at 100+ mph and very stable a steep lean angles as well. All of that said, I have only scrubbed these tires in at a whopping 249 miles so far. I have not had them in the rain so I can't tell you anything there. I also don't yet know how well they will wear. I have heard good things on both fronts though. Hope this helps.
@scottk.84945 жыл бұрын
I have a Scorpion Rally STR front/Motoz GPS rear combination on my DR650 and I really like it. I feel no vibrations on the pavement but it does well enough off-road. It's a great 50/50 compromise. I'm struggling to decide what tires I want a for my 2014 VStrom 1000. The same combo as the DR? Full set of STR's? A full set of GPS? The new Anakee Adventure? I just don't know! A lot of good choices out there....
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Scott K. There absolutely are some good choices out there. Thanks for watching!
@luisrodrigues49813 жыл бұрын
Need next review :)
@LIVEFORMOTO3 жыл бұрын
Luís Rodrigues I made a fallow up video. You’ll see it in my video list.
@Lowdown13blues2 жыл бұрын
Just got the same exact combo for my bike but I’m coming from the factory set. Being this my first time with this kind of tires they feel a little weird, like riding on jello ... Is that normal ? Thank you
@LIVEFORMOTO2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a normal feeling when going from a dedicated street tire to something as aggressive as these.
@Lowdown13blues2 жыл бұрын
@@LIVEFORMOTO Thank you !! 🙏
@kens_lense6 ай бұрын
Moat-oz is the way to say it
@edig46875 жыл бұрын
How are they on WET asphalt? Thanks for the review.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
Edi G I couldn’t tell you yet. I’m just getting back to riding this year after recovering from an injury. I have only had them in the wet one time and it was a brief shower on a straight road. I wish I could tell you more. Sorry.
@juanfelipearango20293 жыл бұрын
how do they perform in the wet'?
@LIVEFORMOTO3 жыл бұрын
I only had them in the wet one time. It was on asphalt and they seemed decent. Not excellent, not bad, just decent.
@infinion33 жыл бұрын
thank u so much. can u help me, im leaning towards gps front and rear. will they hook good on the twisties on a GS?
@LIVEFORMOTO3 жыл бұрын
They do pretty good for semi knobby bias-ply tire. However, everyone has a different idea of what pushing a bike in the twisties means. If you’re a former or current road racer or even a track day rider and know how to push a tire then I definitely don’t recommend them. However if you’re just out lean the bike over a little and have some fun then they’ll do great. The GS is a big heavy bike and tends to be heavier on the front unless loaded for a trip, this tends to push a 50/50 tire to its limit pretty quickly if you are an aggressive experienced rider. If you are then look at a Dunlop radial tire instead. If you just want a little fun on the pavement with nothing too aggressive, I think these will be great and still handle decent off road. I hope this helps. Ride with a smile!👍🏻
@crazyosva5 жыл бұрын
Need to change my tyres on a CRF 250 Rally. What do you cac suggest- more Motoz adventure or GPS. I'll be riding TET this summer, so may be adventure? Also what size is yours rear, is 140 or 130? Thanks
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
The rear tire on my bike is actually a 170. I am reluctant to make a recommendation to you as I have never tried these tires on a light bike like yours. The feedback and performance characteristics of tires can be dramatically different on a 585 pound beast like I ride. I just don't have any experience with these tires on light bikes, and unfortunately I don't know anyone who does. I would think there is probably some other reviews on KZbin that are focused toward light bikes. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Thank you for watching.
@pdrhound4 жыл бұрын
I see alot of bad reviews on tractionator adventure front for bad manners on pavement. A significant amount of them have removed the tire after a couple hundred miles. Did you have any issues before you switched them? Also the common theme is premature cracking. How long did you have them mounted and did you have any cracking problems?
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
pdrhound yes I had cracking problems with the GPS rear tire. The front adventure tire was great for the first 1000 miles and then it behaved very badly in terms of performance and wear. I have only left this video up for two reasons. They have since fixed the cracking/compound problem and I don’t like to trash a company for something that was clearly a mistake and has been corrected. I made a follow up video about the problems. Check my video list for it if you’re interested. I have since switched tire brands. I’m now 4000 miles into a set of Mitas E07’s and extremely pleased so far.
@pdrhound4 жыл бұрын
@@LIVEFORMOTO the big question is how do we know they fixed the problem? Some say after 18 months, there seems to be no changes.
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
pdrhound we don’t really. I have a riding buddy who tried a set also and has had great luck with them. Me however, I switched to a different tire. I’ll do a review on them soon.
@glennmcguire55713 жыл бұрын
@@LIVEFORMOTO I've done a lot of research on tires and it really seems the Mitas E07's are a very good choice.
@waterdude212365 жыл бұрын
I am getting a new gsa1250, would you still recomend this tire set up, when I'm due a a tire change, we ride 2 up and ride 70 asphalt to 30 gravel road, thank you.
@LIVEFORMOTO5 жыл бұрын
waterdude21236 I would probably go with something a little less aggressive than what I’ve talked about in this video for the kind of riding you’re talking about. You could run a GPS front and rear and do real good with that. I prefer a more aggressive front but it comes at a cost. If you run a match set of GPS tires I think you’d be happy. Thanks for watching. Ride with a smile!
@stephendahlstrom13694 жыл бұрын
Were you running the GPS in 50/50 mode or flipped for the off road mode?
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Dahlstrom I ran them in 50/50 direction.
@stephendahlstrom13694 жыл бұрын
LIVE FOR MOTO Thanks. I'm about to put on exactly what you have so it helps me you were happy with them
@LIVEFORMOTO4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Dahlstrom I got a bad set of tires. I didn’t know it when I made the video. I decided not to delete it due to the fact that I know many people have been pleased with them and not had the problem I had. I don’t think you’ll be wrong to try them and I believe you’ll be as happy as most people are. That said, I didn’t run them again. I’m now 3800 miles into a set of Mitas E07+ tires and are absolutely awesome. You should give them some consideration as well. If you want you can look at my follow up review I did of these Motoz tires. Look through my videos and find the midlife review I did. Again, let me say you will probably love them. Most people who have run them love them. My case was a rare case. Ride with a smile!
@madsup10434 жыл бұрын
@@LIVEFORMOTO what kind of problems you've had with the gps ?