Mountain Riding Basics - SLED Theory

[@johnvetterkind4178]

Love the video! Keep them coming. Been mountain riding for the last 3 years and I'm constantly trying to improve by technique with tips and tricks. Plus, I'm over 50, so I lack confidence and I tend to think about the painful consequences too often. The body just doesn't bounce back as fast, so I'm trying to perfect my craft without killing myself!! :) I'm looking forward to watching more of your stuff. Thanks!

[@skidooboondocker]

Dude, I agree a 100% with everything you said!!!! Burandt, is an amazing rider but he could be a little more gracious with his riding partners. We all know he’s talented, he doesn’t need to tell us.

[@shawnc4094]

Kris branch never heard of her.

[@jeffreyhagelin3672]

I agree 💯

[@jordanflores22]

I feel like I owe you money. I started riding 4 years ago and have been following you the whole time and you have taught me so much over the years with all your knowledge you have dropped in all your videos on top of riding footage I can dissect and see how you are doing what and what your body posture and position is.. thanks man. I hope we get to ride together one day. I would love to host you here in montana! Thanks Rosco

[@Brobro449]

One of the best video on this subject ive seen. Explained and shown in way that makes sense

[@Grizzlybaer1]

Man the rudder example really cleared up powder turns in my head thanks man!!

[@wfoericeel8819]

After my TBI videos like this 👍👍 the master is now the student ! thnx cheech.

[@crodles]

that demonstration of what the sled does with skis turned is probably one of my most eye opening moments :P i think this might be one of the most helpful videos, because its literaly just talking and demonstration without getting distracted by being stoked of a snowmobile video, like in the edits and stuff im just enjoying the content and stuff like that

[@tylerwilson2159]

Loved your video. Definitely the best video I have seen for learning good techniques

[@tylerwilson2159]

I also really love the part about having a plan A-F I never really thought about it but that's a 100% right it's no matter You're doing in life the most important thing is to be prepared for anything And being new at snowmobiling I only had whatever the sled was gonna do or what I genuinely was hoping the sled would do Which didn't always happen Especially when you're a new rider

[@lamegame420]

I never realized how hard snowmobiling would be, mostly because at points it can be absolutely terrifying. The first day I went out I had a blast, I was bombing meadows, hitting jumps. But it made me realize how hard it really is, especially on an older sled, to do some of the things you guys on KZbin do with these wicked new sleds. I think, like you said, with my old sled learning fundamentals. When I get a bad ass new sled, I'll be well tuned to really get out and shred. Plus I'll have proper gear and electronics to make it a bit safer. Definitely do a part 2 on snow. I think one of the biggest factors any snowmobiler has to get over is confidence. You NEED to use gas to your advantage, like drifting a car. And that takes confidence, which is hard to gain on something new and foreign. At some point too, it just takes having friends that push your limits, and you meeting the challenge.

[@oORaveNOo]

I did exactly that old 2008 skidoo and now this year a lynx, day n night more progression been through the roof this season

[@lamegame420]

@@oORaveNOo I'm looking at snow checking a new polaris next year, but I'm not sure. Lynx has some really sweet sleds, but I'm kinda waiting to see if there is anything new and exciting. Hell man, 2008 is new compared to mine. I have a 98 polaris Rmk 700. It's a fun sled, but not easy to throw around, plus it's raced out with pipes, a power dome, ceramic pistons, the whole 9. It's ridiculously fast, and really not the best sled to learn on, but I got the bug now. My body would have thanked me if I got it 10 years ago, but oh well.

[@oORaveNOo]

@@lamegame420 My advice, DO IT ! Snowmobile R n D have moved so much just in the last 10 years you'll have the time of your life on a new machine. Power/Agility

[@nch-wf3tu]

You the man! Do another gear video. Old ones helped a lot. You are the most detailed. Thanks

[@kdawg5832]

That was some awesome instruction! Thanks for the insite.

[@literallyshaking8019]

Target fixation is a major thing with any mobility based sport (even bikes and downhill skis). 9 times out of 10 if you’re looking at something, you’re going to drive towards or into it, so keeping your eyes up and where you want to go is more important than looking at a tree you’re trying to avoid.

[@00speeddemon41]

Instant follow. This is what I needed. I've ridden sleds around the ranch but mountains is a whole new world. I just got into a tricked out M7 and I love it but turning and side hilling is by far the hardest to master. I've been getting my ass kicked and can't figure out why. The way you explain it is really hitting home especially with the counter steering!

[@DeClineization]

I really appreciate the tips on riding a trench 🤙

[@thor82ak]

Burandt with his epic quad intros.... I think its hilarious.

[@joshgreene3329]

I just got into the newer style sled still getting use to it been riding edge and wedge all my life super helpful video, I just gotta get use to the newer style and better throttle response now 🤙😅

[@steveboisvert]

Thanx for sharing your experience, amazing content

[@backcountryjunkie5454]

Great vid Roscoe. We are never to old to learn something new.

[@kendude9]

Looking forward to part 2 on the snow! Great job.

[@thecitiots]

Thanks for the sled theory, if you do a follow up would be good to hear more about downhill🤘

[@turbodieselc4664]

Thanks for the awesome content, Lynx is lucky to have you on board!

[@marcodm]

As a heavy guy trail rider 4stroke, I really want to try offtrail. Your vid was really good. Informative 👍

[@jasonscottsgreatoutdoors429]

As a flat lander who is just venturing into the steep, I can counter steer just fine on moderate terrain. But, when I get to a steep hill, my brain fights me every second when I go to turn downhill to pull on edge. Super annoying 😂 Brain goes “No, not that way idiot!” Just a mental block I have to work past!

[@208SledHead]

Great video Rosco! Super helpful - thank you!!

[@beverlyboys73]

Great presentation. Great info. Thx

[@ammonatamanczyk6481]

An on snow vid would definitely be sweet.

[@100PercentJames]

super legit info. come out to West and do a clinic! thanks

[@cjmrcjmr]

thanks , keep this teaching coming!!

[@scottmulvaney772]

Love the clips keep ‘em coming ! Can you give any advise on how to get better my right side hill skills. I’m getting way better on my left but still struggle for my right side.

[@leebonfiglio]

On snow techniques please...great work!

[@mattychamberlin]

Great video. Please tell the story of that Bull on the wall. I live in Montana and love September archery.

[@jetblackjake8510]

Good job man, keep it up!!

[@Rprecision]

Thanks for sharing. The big elephant in the room, does the lynx HANDLE like your last brand. Can they dump downhill on edge and turn back uphill and easily carry a sidehill?

[@mattcady4798]

As always, great video! Learning how to stop noes low wrong foot forward, how do you tap the break without lunging sidewards off the sled?

[@HilatiousHusky]

Great video! Tons of information!

[@precisiontech5461]

Yes more “on snow” videos. And more info on suspension set up. Does Lynx not put good enough suspension on the RE? You pay $23k for one and still need to pay for a suspension upgrade…..?

[@Bjorne00]

of course not Lynx supensions are the best from te box especially RE

[@henryjones863]

Loved this! Looking forward to part 2!

[@defmc1]

Part 2!

[@ekosmyna]

Two time BBA rider here (just missed you in 2020)...first time commentor. Can you elaborate on the sidehill to nose down technique? Mr Maddox coached me to push down on handlebars as you described but I'm still making post holes and getting stuck nose high.

[@serge2698]

Can you talk about handle bar riser length and limiter strap setting for mountain riding?

[@gradeehbeef]

great info, keep it coming!

[@PowerlabsDiesel]

My shredder ds turbo 3900 full of gas and oil with a spare belt weighed in at 569.8

[@TyfoiD75]

this is very educational,, thank you^^

[@backcountryshitok]

Is it not a thing to keep you shoulders in the direction you want to be going ? Especially on a side hill? Also like how you go from counter steer pow turns on flat to elevators lol

[@JoshMasters-lp9ye]

Great video! I just got back from BBA and had my butt kicked by Kyle & Blaine. That experience coupled with your videos from while you were with BBA and through today have changed the way I see terrain, ride style and overall confidence in the backcountry. Keep it up. I'm excited to see where you take the sport.

[@Rossxr]

Lucky I wasn’t there I would of changed your life lol

[@BTHAlaska]

I would 💯% agree about the turbo vs N/A. I have both and I have far more fun on my N/A it’s roughly 20 lbs lighter and you have less rotating mass which makes it feel 30-40 lbs lighter. There are days where the turbo comes in clutch but they are so few.

[@insideoutadam]

Great info

[@markgregoryrugman7136]

I have a polaris pro rmk 800 with 155 track

[@bryandraperscott]

Great videos of great information 👍

[@Rossxr]

Big thanks 🚀🚀 appreciate it

[@JMX07]

I'm curious your thoughts on sled weights. I feel like a lot of people are afraid of ordering a lynx because of the weight penalty. I've owned a 410lb (dry) Polaris, and I've owned a 7000lb Yamaha.. lol. I own a (roughly 465lb) doo right now. It doesn't feel overly heavy while I'm riding it.. When it comes time to roll it, its a bit of a work out.. I do miss the light weight of the Polaris, but I've been eyeing the Shredder as well. Honestly, I don't know if I want to get on another "heavy" sled.. What are your thoughts?

[@danmoroles9951]

Newly subscibed. Love the vid. Had us laughing but everything you said is so true. If you ever get a chance could you demonstrate the crazy bull dog maneuver cause nothing is scarrier then going down hill on two skis, especially in th trees. That's usually plan F time

[@Trad-Am]

For those of us that remember when the 136 was the mountain track, the 163/165's are just more forgiving. I'm 3 years older than Burandt and im getting lazy in my old age! 😂

[@teachdougie8139]

Coming from the Polaris to a BRP. How do you feel about the front end “pogoing”, especially in inconsistent snow like fluff over crust? I ride a Freeride Turbo, then hopped on my buddies 9r in those conditions and was honestly blown away about how much more stable it felt. Even have my reaction in my recent video. Shock setup? Lift spindles? Skis?

[@gcow8328]

It has to be the spindles. This is my 1st year on a doo, I've got rid of the t motion, put stiffer front shocks on it. Almost handles like a polaris, only thing I can't fix is exactly what you're talking about, the damn ski pointing straight up and throwing on the brakes in inconsistent snow. I've centered my ski and have Sala king rubbers, which did help a little, but still unacceptable.

[@teachdougie8139]

@@gcow8328 I also have Sala King rubbers. Mine might be a tad worn out. I’m looking at ZRP lift spindles and either Slydog attack or Gripper Skis.

[@Rprecision]

Wonder if this is a ski problem or a chassis problem?

[@gcow8328]

@TeachDougie I was also thinking about trying some different spindles. If you figure it out let me know.

[@teachdougie8139]

@@Rprecision the more people I talk to I think it’s spindle AND ski. Subscribe to my Channel and I’ll be updating with results here in a week or so.

[@ACTUALZEN]

Fuckin' Brant!! 🤣

[@Ride4life311]

3900 mm is a 153.5” track to be exact! I asked Siri 😂

[@Icutmetal]

Can’t do math?

[@Ride4life311]

@@Icutmetal I can do math but it’s a lot easier just to ask Siri……Smart Ass!!!

[@CalgaryDynastar]

It’s all about rider skill and personal preference. Way too much fuss is made about track length etc.

[@backcountryshitok]

I've been telling people about the brap brake brap brake technic for 10 years and noone believes me lol

[@bryandraperscott]

Look at the camera

[@cwallybraap]

Your fly is open:)! Also, love the info, feel the majority of us would like to be a Burandt or Robinson and hit the big jumps and throw our sleds around but the reality is usually the opposite. What are your thoughts after being with 1000 riders? I feel 90% of us need a track length longer than 155 and don't need a turbo?

[@ronwikeheiser6706]

Definitely depends on ware you ride. In the mountains of BC ( Revelsoke) for instance a turbo does help when you get to that part of the learning curve if you get there . I grew up on 800s and we made it around the Revelstoke area just fine

[@jgofast9249]

Can you talk about the clutching on the lynx? I see the re 3900 comes with low elevation and the 4100 is high elevation. Also, can you touch on the weight of each sled compaired to other manufactures?

[@zp9898]

Hey Ross, question for sled choice. I'm a BIG dude. I'm FIT and 270 lbs. Is rider weight a big factor when choosing a track length ? Ridden a 62 for a while and want a more play full sled.

[@jacobboswell9325]

I'm 6'7" and around 300 lbs I ride a 153. You will not be disappointed with a 150 series track especially a 3 inch from a cat or doo. Definitely want an 800 or 850 though. I came off a 162 and I don't think I will ever go back.

[@Captndarty]

Counter steering a snowmobile uses the exact same principles as riding a bicycle or a motorcycle. That might be something a novice first timer could easily identify with.

[@MrWookie1981]

I can honestly say I never turned the wheel of a bike or moto in the opposite way I am trying to turn. I do not think it is the same.

[@Captndarty]

@@MrWookie1981 you countersteer to balance, and you change your balance to lean and direction. You just don’t know you’re doing it.

[@MrWookie1981]

@@Captndarty I guess that is true to initiate the turn. The difference is maintaining the counter steer on the sled and actually having your skis pointed in the opposite direction of the turn. On a bike your wheel is pointing in the direction of the turn after it is initialized.

[@Captndarty]

@@MrWookie1981 that’s only because the track is 16 inches wide and it’s harder to lean a sled over vs a bicycle or motorcycle. If you clean the sled over too far in a tight circle, you then have to turn into the circle to prevent you from falling over. Just like doing a tight circle in the parking lot on the bicycle. Too much a flop to the outside, They are all the same basic principles that you have to execute slightly differently. That’s all I was saying it might be easier for for novices to understand that comparison.

[@bryandraperscott]

You keep looking off to the left of the screen

[@Rossxr]

That’s where my screen is so I can see if I’m still in focus.

[@bryandraperscott]

@@Rossxr ic lol

[@ddowns8400]

How about a script man 🙂

[@relaxingnature2617]

Acrossed/Acrosst is NOT a real word 25:38

[@AnonymousPhucker]

how about audioedit your videos - i was ready to downvote at 2 seconds but eventually this is an awesome video worthy of an upvote