Mounting a C63 AMG Engine in a 1980s Mercedes SL - Project 630SL Part 3

[@kokoloko12398]

I feel lucky to be able to watch this kind of crazy project on KZbin. Thanks for sharing with us!

[@coastal_kwill]

Did this project ever get finished?

[@stevegee218]

I am sure they will address the sub frame cutting/reinforcement. First you make it fit, then you make it strong.

[@TheGabirt]

He did even tell it at 9:23

[@ironfront9573]

As soon as I saw the car body let alone subframe, I thought it looked worryingly flimsy. I couldn't believe it could cope with a big engine and aggressive driving. Seemed like it would fold in on itself. Looking forward to seeing how strength is added to such a vehicle.

[@HerrJordel]

you are one of the people that inspire me to keep learning engineering and fabrication. I hope to one day be able to do all of the things you do

[@lucaspeta1819]

I respect you guy for the engineering that your putting into this. LuKas from South Africa 🌍

[@JonTheTeaMan]

This is some unreal stuff!! Can’t wait to see the final outcome!

[@theogharoon]

Truly impressed. My favourite era of MB is 70's and 80's and to me this project makes total sense.

[@curry6138]

For the exhaust system, the folks over at DieselPumpUK made a billet exhaust for an OM606. Although no where near the same engine- the "piping" was so quaint and sleek that I feel as though it could help your application- since it seems as though there's only 4.5" of clearance. Your videos are always so educational! Thank you so much for your detailed work!

[@amoni1959]

When it’s all done. It will be 1 Of 1. 👏🏾👍🏾

[@AnttiBrax]

Retropower just unveiled an AMG V8 Pagoda project. Though they're still evaluating the feasibility.

[@crabapple1974]

Would be cool to see how the new enginemounts are constructed? Really cool project :)

[@slicktop2jz855]

Awesome man. Im currently putting a Ford Barra into a W123 300D 👊

[@lxfguits]

I like straight sixes and w123's.

[@slasher9883]

Turbo Barra? Great engine, best thing Ford Oz ever did.

[@slicktop2jz855]

@@slasher9883 Well yes and no, na+t mate, best bang for your buck if under 600hp apart from a 2jz. The internals from some of the LPG na barra's are the same as the turbo, so no need to swap out. Agreed, best engine produced here. Cheap as, too. Got the base motor for $450, borg warner s366 .91A/R for $1200 👍I currently have a 2J on the go as well for my z32 300zx slicktop. 2nd 2jz swap into a zed (fave chassis)

[@slasher9883]

@@slicktop2jz855 I had a NA Barra in my FG Ute. Ded gas, with the ancient E-gas system which I hated. While the rest of the car kind of fell apart around it the Barra stayed strong. Was going to upgrade to an ECo LPI ute after the FG was written off but seems LPG is a thing of the past here now. Interesting 2J swap you have there as well, still reckon the 2J is the king of the straigh six hill but the Barra not far behind.

[@georgobergfell]

I think you should stick to the brand, when doing an engine swap. Mercedes OM606 Turbo Diesel is actually a very poular thing to swap into other older Mercedes here in Europe!

[@impslap7620]

What I've been told over and over is that the fab work is the easy part, it's the electronics that make these MB engine swaps difficult. Can't wait to see what you guys do to get it running.

[@ANDERZENAMG]

The further it goes, the more insane this becomes haha! Great work Team XF!

[@mikewilliams4947]

Can’t wait to see this things smoking donuts in the Walmart parking lot 😂

[@bigbird2100]

Great video 👍 Love Sebastian's approach "well had cut subframe create engine mount re fab every thing back together"

[@sburton4105]

Really enjoying your content/channel. Keep it coming as you and the team are very talented!

[@Ferraridude13]

Reminds me of a picture I saw of a 300SE with a modern AMG V8 in it. Excited to see where this thing goes

[@anmohssen7782]

The two cars that I love are getting merged together, keep the great work going brothers, amazing work 💯 always waiting the updates 😍👌🏽

[@johnb3341]

R107 is the most underrate work of art in automotive design. Next project, same model but with electric motor.

[@mohammedalbaker8963]

Any updates on this project, is it dead?

[@medihedayati9132]

I love projects like this.👍👍

[@TheAbdun81]

Been waiting for this!

[@bobroberts2371]

Guys, do some research on " R107 front sub frame reinforcement " There was some sort of lower control arm mount cracking that a repair kit took care of. I don't know what years were affected or if the factory made modifications.

[@brabus8317]

You guys are magicians. Very impressive 👏

[@AreUcanadian]

Solid work man. Shoutout from B-town!

[@Barnagh1]

Great work. I’m wondering how you will deal with the fan belt length?

[@georgobergfell]

This will be a fantastic restomod for sure

[@smOOdiebOOdie]

This is such an awesome project!! 😁🙌🏻

[@glenslick2774]

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

[@brokeafengineerwannabe2071]

Why not?

[@slicktop2jz855]

@@brokeafengineerwannabe2071 its a quote from a movie bro

[@brokeafengineerwannabe2071]

@@slicktop2jz855 i know, that's my answer to that. This amg aren't some t-rex that's going to bite your ass off.

[@BrKnOblivion]

@@brokeafengineerwannabe2071 Hmm that's what you think... Remember that's an M156 in a 300SEL...

[@brokeafengineerwannabe2071]

@@BrKnOblivion Some lads out there once put a lambo v12 in a fiat. That one went well.

[@HashiriyaSquadron]

I love this build. Will be good to see it move under it's own power.

[@BrianCrofoot]

Love the work you guys do! Keep it up! I want to put the Cd009 kit in my E55 so bad!

[@artrecogniseart]

Jeez tough job. Nice to see how its coming along. How are you guys managing to do so many projects at once? Thanks for the content.

[@cwmoser]

Be interesting to know why you didn't just modify the C63 subframe to work in the R107.

[@austinemoyo3323]

Great job you guys are doing. I want to start Merc 190E project but not sure which donor car to use between the E55 AMG and the C63 AMG. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Also, wish to see the final outcome of the SL project.

[@oguzogursenyurtaltai4652]

how you gonna do with speed cluster on dash, abs and speed sensors? w126 has one single speed sensor in the diff. new types has speed sensors on the wheels.

[@mikewilliams4947]

Impressive craftsmanship!

[@Realtime1501]

Fits better than expected actually

[@Doktoreq]

Good advice from AC tech - if you're going to reuse AC plug the hoses. Anything that gets in there (dirt/bugs) could make your life miserable, when it finally clogs something (usually expansion valve) and you have to tear half of the car apart to get to it.

[@danibesednjak1994]

Love the content :) My cuestion is how do you know that the subframe is structurally safe after the modifications. Did you do any analysis?

[@househouse7205]

Its greate too see this but i wonder how the abs will work

[@charlviljoen7737]

any update on this very exciting build ?

[@briannthara9109]

Man awesome work. I do have a question though. I have the w460 g wagon that I i engine swapped to the om617 engine that i pulled from a w203. My question is im thinking of swapping the gearbox to the automatic that came with the 203. But I'm worried how the tranny wiring will work without speed sensors

[@almostordinary_motors]

Any update? Looking to do this to a recent 560SL I purchased.

[@scootypuffjr.]

How are you guys making all of the electronics work? There are a lot of cheap V12tt cars running around that would make good engine donors if the pcm issue was addressed. I would gladly rip the engine out of my w220 S600 tt to swap into a w126 long wheelbase.

[@LaNiveladora]

love your videos bro!

[@harrytoor114]

You make everything look easy

[@melp1088]

Nice project. Any update on the E55 manual conversion? Did u sort out all the electrical issues?

[@niceguytim3337]

Don't forget to go sign the RPM act save our Motorsports much love

[@jth1987leb]

I’m confused why you didn’t remove material from the ac and alternator bracket rather than from ac and alternator itself. Removing material from the brackets means the owner can easily buy a new ac or alternator from the parts store. The way you did it he well have to have the ac or alternator rebuilt or buy new and take it to a machine shop. Beside the ac and alternator being close to the subframe if they needed to be replaced it looks the engine would have to be raised. Are you planning on making more room for ease of repairs?

[@fazeobama8872]

i dont think the owner cares, as long as its done and possible

[@deciplesteve]

Very few cars at this level of modification are built for serviceability. Odds are good when servicing happens, the car will go to XF or a similarly qualified shop. This isn't the kind of car that you take back to Merc to get an alt swap.

[@e.c.listening326]

Any repair on this thing will be a pain

[@FairladyS130]

Would it have been easier to use the C63 subframe? Then you get later model steering, suspension etc.

[@shadij4901]

Why not trying to fitt the original c63 subframe on the sl??

[@shazkhan7709]

Excellent progress

[@robertsdmitrocenko]

If I had that donor car (C63) I would put that engine in the W124 chasis. Then you got yourself your own "Hammer" Restomod.😁😁

[@agrproductions8813]

Good choice for me in a 190e

[@lillexus5589]

Or put a MB v12 in it out of a s600, would result in some surprised faces on car meets

[@robertsdmitrocenko]

@@lillexus5589 Basicly your own W124 Brabus. W124 Brabus had a V12 as well. But it was a 7.3l engine,not a 6.0.

[@coronapack]

this reminds me of a v8 swap in a miata. power to weight will be nuts in that little benz.

[@chrisluna777]

What’s happened to the follow up of this video. I don’t see it anywhere.

[@GR31M4NN]

When is "Disassembling a C63 AMG Entirely - Project 630SL Part 4" coming out? ...

[@timpeters6417]

What happened with this project?

[@mverbaan3381]

Great, great job! Love it! Why didn’t you go for a dry sump construction? Gives a little bit more room. With so much effort, would galvanizing the whole body money well spend? Once again: great job and channel! Thank you!

[@randallmason9687]

Putting 20lbs of stuff into a 10lb bag! I love restomods!

[@NoSoyYo-TV]

When I get on KZbin this is what I like to see 😂

[@joakimquensel597]

Any plans for the wheels? Please don't put too large and non contemporary rims on this car! I would prefer the 15" version of the original bundt alloys, or possibly 16" Lorinser LOs or Pentas. Means you can't use the brakes from the donor car but there are beefy enough aftermarket brakes available that would fit inside a 15" or 16" rim.

[@joakimquensel597]

Or if you really think you need to go larger, there is a 17" replica version on the R129 "gullideckel " rim that is very similar in design to the original 15" R107 rim on the 1986-89 facelift model.

[@simolajustice6555]

Lorinser would fit the car perfectly..they are classy and wild at the same time

[@joakimquensel597]

@@simolajustice6555 Yeah I had those on my 1989 300SL. Very difficult to find those wheels back then (early 2000) but now they started to make them again a few years ago! I.e. the real stuff, no replica.

[@joakimquensel597]

But original bundts (the 15" version) would be even cooler on this car, a total sleeper. Or the 15" version of the steel hubcaps the were fitted as standard equipment (14" version) on the early 107 SL. I have also seen custom 16" and 17" split wheels made from the original bundts alloys, they are also pretty nice! So many options... But just don't go with modern wheels!

[@misobogdanov2422]

Why not use the subframe from the c63 and weld that to the old car

[@Fuentebp]

Did you guys ever finish this?

[@hishamjaber3]

will the SL be a standard gear box?

[@edithscheuringer5847]

Cool job guys!

[@scottcook8443]

With all you skills and know how, would it have been better to make a custom subframe with a coil over suspension and a rack and pinion steering set up???

[@tisoy909]

You also have a V12 swap in an SEC that I would like to see finished. Particularly your engine management solutions. Either of these cars finished would be nice to see. Are you planning to finish either of these two projects? It seems we have been left hanging. And then you start fiddling with the kiddy cars like civics and S2000 and the like. Lets see the progress to completion my friend…

[@kevinday1904]

Why didn't you use the C63 subframe?

[@mrlondon963]

Cutting away so much of the subframe, wouldn't it weaken it?

[@thetumanshow]

Will you guys eventually make a manual conversion for a C63 like you did with the E55? I’ve always thought that’s what the C63 really needed

[@lop8828]

That subframe is not engineered to handle that much torque. Would have swapped the 63 subframe with custom brackets to tie body. Just look at those flimsy shock and antiquated suspension. All that work for it to crack in half after several shock loads.

[@xiouee]

I assume he will reinforce the subframe later on

[@aktik6000]

That infinity front brake disk... tiny 😵 Greeting to y'all at xf 😁💪

[@marwanalbalushi5838]

Final part??

[@solarpanel9310]

More engine conversion, this is good

[@D3nn1s]

Great job, cant wait for it to be done! Wasnt the plan btw to put in the amgs suspension and so on so you get a modern car feeling or was this given up?

[@hanshoogendyk2203]

Usually when you fit a big engine in a smaller car the engine gets set back as far as possible, it's not as tho they have to worry about a rear distributor etc so why leave 2" or 50 mm clearance? Would not have needed so much cutting on the cross member to start with, and if you going to cut up a cross member start with a dummy one, so you can do a very tidy proper one to finish, just saves a lot of time and missery later

[@bgh187s2k]

The problem with cutting the Alternator and AC compressor is that you've now made them one off items which are now not easily swappable if failure occurs.

[@malikmelvin3524]

Where are y’all located

[@kp1804]

Great job! I love this car and this project was a great idea! But I wonder, will the engine subframe lose part of its rigidity after cutting such big steel plates in order to fit the new engine?

[@e.c.listening326]

Less remaining structures and more power is a bad recipe

[@fadi_koka]

Cut the brackets to get closer to the engine 😉 that way if they ever want to replace the alternator or the ac compressor they don’t have to modified them

[@farobaladewa1119]

Hebat luarbiasa paman👍👍👍👍

[@mikeywilz]

Ready for the next video in this series...

[@aaazzz8920]

Isn't cutting subframe going to act rigidity? How healty is it?

[@emilmuhrman]

They will have to reinforce it when they are happy with the position of the engine.

[@ryanjooste2294]

OMW didn't you just get that shop? And you need a about two to three times the Square feet already never mind the space you going to need when Discovery Channel asks if they can make a TV show with you guys. Well done 👏what a great Channel you have. I love it.

[@anidiotinaracingcar]

The hood still closes?

[@celililkimen634]

oh my god cool project 😉👍

[@marketbuy]

I was searching on YT to see if anyone put a Vette engine into the R107. C63 engine? That’s a tough project especially changing the driver side location of the steering wheel.. Hope you get a lot of clicks for this video. 👍🤑

[@9RockRoad]

I usually love the work you do, but wouldn't have been better to fabricate a custom subframe. Making sure you retain support.

[@TheGabirt]

Listen more carefully, he tells it at 9:20

[@TheGabirt]

And then again 10:59 !

[@hondaveetc82]

Try watching the whole video next time before commenting. You would have your answer much quicker

[@bigbeps7755]

why do u take so much time uploading bro I've been waiting for this for time lol

[@heatsyncperformanceeuro5336]

This is great guys!

[@callumtbjones]

I’d hate to be the one that pays the bill at end, but I love it

[@Copozeras]

why would you need an AC on a cabrio?

[@oikkuoek]

After closing the air gap between the engine and the accessories, the longevity of those parts is gone. Also the belt needs to be custom size, so the next maintenance will be soon, and painful. A lot easier and less painful job would have been customizing the subframe and subframe mounts, as in re-fitting the C63 subframe into that old rust bucket.

[@e.c.listening326]

That’s the right way to go

[@BmwpetroldoorshoppingcarNordsc]

Ace! How about an update on the e55 manual swap. Maybe you covered it on a different social media? But KZbin is all I have.

[@TheSoap1946]

Last update he gave was about tuning, he's working on clearing fault codes

[@Przemx77x.]

i think it's a bad idea, and wouldn't it be better to adapt the entire suspension from w204 to r127?

[@joakimquensel597]

I have no experience from this kind if build but that was nu thought as well, reuse as much as possible of the suspension and chassis components from the donor car. Except the brakes, the must be small enough to fit original or contemporary tuning wheels (e.g. Lorinser LO), large modern rims would completely ruin the looks of this car.

[@hydorah]

Just the mock up looks amazing! Owner will be well inducted to custom car life... Year 2027, he needs an alternator... "Yep, alternator for a C63... Can you just take a little off the sides please?" :-)

[@slowbee236_]

Please compare the weight of the two engines

[@zaxtinhazelhof6006]

ah....... you not work alone nice work man

[@lex16v]

nice Projekt....

[@flamiemushawatu583]

Where’s the rest of this series !!!

[@xXilisminusXx]

who is the dude with the bluetooth thing