Mouse Reinvented - Statial Open Source Adjustable Mouse

[@MrFlyingLamma]

Sometimes I think I'm a creative, practical person, then I watch one of your videos and are absolutely humbled by the level of creativity you display in every step of creation. It's really awesome, man.

[@alec1575]

Humbled is a relatable word

[@EvonixTheGreatest]

See you gotta drop the "practical" bit, go nuts

[@zone1923]

i look at this and can only think the amount of hand chum that those buttons will accumulate

[@sammorossi]

Hand chum?

[@fnytnqsladcgqlefzcqxlzlcgj9220]

​@@sammorossi you know, gamer gunk

[@swedneck]

cheese grater

[@MeowTow]

It doesn't. That's a misconception.

[@AnimeFan-wd5pq]

@@MeowTowexplain? Because my mouse definitely piles up with gunk.

[@MonkeyNBananas]

Every time you post a video, I get closer to buying a soldering iron, and a 3d printer

[@woldemunster9244]

Resin printers are NOT for first-time users and requires handling of pretty hazardous chemicals! These parts require a small 3d printer and if you're gonna print tabletop figures, resin would be bestest option.... Just prepare for pain and epic failures. :D

[@emmanueladdey7083]

Get a A1 Mini man

[@caboose6411]

@@emmanueladdey7083was just about to say this. Haven’t bought one yet but a friend of mine has one and I’ll go to his house with my filament and just start printing stuff. I genuinely don’t think I’ll ever buy an Ender product again, besides maybe a resin 3d printer

[@AetherXIV]

the attention to detail on the guide is mindblowing. it looks beautiful. you are so talented and humble

[@eeaahh]

R.A.T. if all the panels weren't just for show

[@OG_ALviK]

My R.A.T 7 M.M.O disagrees with that statement

[@erin.anderson]

The only problem with the R.A.T. 8+ is that even at their full extension, if you have long fingers or a larger than average hand, the mouse is still small. That said, I don't know why I never thought of 3D printing additional modules to replace the existing ones for the R.A.T. 8 to address that shortcoming. Guess I know what I'm doing in Fusion next.

[@OG_ALviK]

​@@erin.anderson Close to my situation... I have Giant hands and my rat 7 MMO is still small. Even though it's a chonky boi. I will probably in the future just scan my rat 7's shape which i adore, make it a little big bigger and slap some logitech hardware underneath. That of course will happen when my rat 7 will inevitably die (like the others did)...

[@devers6]

Dude, turn that JST crimping and connector assembly into a short. Hands down the best demo I have ever seen. It deserves all the extra views it will bring.

[@PyottDesign]

Ha, I know right? Have no idea why JST-PH crimp tutorials are non-existent on YT. I couldn't even figure out which crimp tool worked with them...

[@Scrogan]

Incredible work here. Though if you used all three wires on the switches, you’d be able to do instant debouncing.

[@petervillano3484]

Even the assembly instructions are beautiful

[@gurkanbozkurt8776]

Your rhino grasshopper and fusion skills always blows my mind. I have a lot of things to learn from you.

[@realastropulse]

This is such a beautiful design! Masterful engineering, problem solving, and aesthetics!

[@HimanshuGhadigaonkar]

Bro.. I literally thought of the diy Controller to watch it for the 5 the time once again and now I find out youve made a adjustable mouse. Thanks for making videos bro, and take time to make content, its really high quality.

[@MajorTom-j3o]

The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the Handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. I would recommend checking out the Handshoe if you haven't already.

[@can1bbl3]

The amount of work done here is staggering! Amazing job man!

[@SuperByber]

You have done a large-scale and painstaking job. The result looks like a finished product that commands respect and looks nice.

[@jtreview7506]

Having the wrench stored on the mouse itself is genius

[@NeonDeusUnit01]

Is there a monthly mouse subscription? the market will love it!

[@PyottDesign]

I forgot to add an AI button too! So many regrets…

[@supermroz]

The level of polish you're able to achieve and the amount of different skills you have is just staggering. It's really so impressive. Thank you so much for sharing. Btw, I know you mention that you don't like vertical mice very much, but I think there's a lot of potential in an adaptive vertical mouse - the body could work as it does now, but it would be connected to the base with another joint, making the whole body tiltable. I personally have been using a vertical mouse for years now, and as with most things, you get used to it and start to be proficient. And I truly believe in the ergonomics benefits it's supposed to have.

[@anthonycampos7417]

Absolutely amazing the ammount of work, prototyping and design that went into this! I wish I had your cad skills

[@spoged7692]

How do you always manage to make such amazing videos?

[@dophir17]

There are many pro micro alternatives that have USB-C ports. These are drop-in replacements for pro micros, and are frequently used in open-source mechanical keyboard designs. One model, the Supermini NRF52840, even has bluetooth and built-in battery charging and costs less than $5 (still supports wired connections). Something to explore for anyone building this themselves or future revisions

[@PyottDesign]

Hadn't seen the Supermini before. Very nice option for future builds!

[@dophir17]

@@PyottDesign I have several, and they work very well. I found the bluetooth connection reliavle even with multiple devices. Love the mouse design, and I learned a lot watching your design process. I especially love that it's open source, very well done!

[@zach_ry]

This project is so interesting and cool, that half-vertical layout you mention seems amazing.

[@gustinian]

Thanks for sharing your inspired and inspiring work with us. Impressed with your fluent desktop manufacturing chops, now with added kicad! Your industrial design language is primarily 'form follows function' but not at the expense of design styling. Would love to see your version of an ergo split keyboard. I might have to invest in a resin printer now...

[@cosmic_cupcake]

Dude, Thank you! I am left handed and basically none of the commercially available options really cover all of my needs, especially ergonmomically.

[@austinsp00l24]

This whole thing is really cool. Even just the wheel module by itself is amazing.

[@MajorTom-j3o]

The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. If you aren't already aware of the handshoe mouse I would recommend looking it up.

[@PyottDesign]

Wow, hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the heads up!

[@Reign_In_Blood_963]

Love this mouse design. The ergo seem very well suited as I use a fingertip style grip, at least when I'm using it in my right hand. Being a lefty, I'm ambi with my mouse and often use my left hand unless I'm gaming.

[@Extner4]

14:11 The shell looks like a cute cat/panda!

[@nullvoid3545]

Thank you for open sourcing this design! I panic A little when I see innovation because it often means the intentional obsoleting of ideas once no longer profitable.

[@12gaFreedom]

You've inspired me. Thank you for the wonderfully informative video and resources. Very generous. I'd love to see your take on a ball mouse as weight wouldn't be a concern and a heavy vertical mouse can be problematic. An adaptive 1000Hz polling rate ball mouse (index and/or thumb) would be genuinely a revolution for the computer chained among us. I use a ball for everything that isn't gaming to protect my wrist and game with a custom 4k 20 gram wireless fingertip mouse using an existing HSK pcb.

[@DjBend1]

One of my favorite youtubers. Instant watch, like, and now a comment. Such a nice project, in such satisfying detail.

[@joshfield]

Would love to see an open source trackball like the Keysington Expert Mouse. Been my go-to for 8 years now.

[@user-dl6iy7rd2y]

Absolutely amazing content ! You are a blessing to the 3d printing & open source community !

[@alec1575]

Very clean work here; I'm very impressed with the design. Great job man.

[@prthsingh11]

Amazing!! Will build one next year, thanks for making such a nice mouse and open sourcing it❤.

[@pieordie7]

Oh god the amount of hand chum that would get inside that mouse on the thumbnail.

[@LeadMuffins]

You should open source the trackball controller if you haven't already. That thing's sick.

[@PBT_THE_GOAT]

You’re simply wonderful at what you do sir

[@darkangel999]

If you already building a costume mouse you should definitely use Hall effect Switches. They don’t stop working after to much clicks and you could work out some interesting things with them because of the analog output.

[@markshanahan2154]

First time viewer - the algorithm bought me here... All I can say is Wow! Great project

[@dmitrymoskowski5775]

Product design tips are amazing. Thanks for sharing!

[@PaeP3nguin]

What a masterwork of design and engineering. The variety of skillsets on show here is so ridiculously impressive and I'm not sure people even realize it. I'm currently trying to Frankenstein two mice together into a Logitech MX Vertical with the original mouse handling only clicks, then a new mouse in the base handling movement for a better sensor while maintaining the original form factor and feel. A challenge enough for me then KZbin recommends me this video that's years out of my league :)

[@wdwadindwatri]

Basically R.A.T cyborg, one of those old mouses.

[@Niertrier]

This is such a inspiring project, I would love to make this my self but unfortunately some of the components and tools are not available for me, with that said I wonder how flexible this build is using cheaper components, maybe even an external motherboard like the controller build?

[@KeithOlson]

Bloddy amazing, mate! Some thoughts: 1. I suggest you work with someone who has truly large hands to tweak your design to be able to fit them. (When I stretch my fingers out, my thumb and pinkie tips are nine inches apart and, when I rest my palm on the mouse as most folks do, my fingers extend more than two inches past the front end of the mouse. Yes, really.) 2. For the vertical style--or for those of us with huge hands--a heel pan is a must so the heel of our hand isn't dragging across the mouse pad. Can you please add one as an option to your design? 3. Super-soft silicone USB cables are available and inexpensive, so rebuilding one isn't necessary. 4. I would add a mouse wheel assembly version that places a depressable 1cm I2C/SPI OLED display where the DPI button is. That would allow for much more information about a particular profile than just memorizing what a particular RGB LED colour means. (72x40 pixels = 18x6 text display when using a 3x5 font.) Cheers!

[@salvatorearbassio3609]

If you make the buttons on the side either in a different size or different shape its easier to distinguish what the thumb is on.

[@lagartocarburante]

Wow amazing project, just like every single one you make

[@limestone_xyz]

crazy cool project, thanks for sharing!

[@CosmicInu]

14:15 i love the backing where the palm sits as a flat not waffle lining but it reminded me a lot of an elytron of a beetle mixed with kinda a mech design i would love to take this design and modify slightly thank you for making this open source too! amazing job with your creative work and your heavy lifting to help nudge / move the ergonomic design of the mouse forward

[@raztaz826]

This is really neat. I wonder if something similar could be done with Lego since we have ball joint parts.

[@xani666]

That's gonna be hell to clean...

[@P-Ian]

From the thumbnail my blind ass thought this was gonna be a 3d printed gas mask

[@markhaus]

Would love some looking into and focusing on fingertip grip or pen grip designs since you mentioned stagnation in the industry. They can be smaller and lighter and use a grip we’re all used to

[@LogPile444]

this was such a cool project

[@CleggyCool]

Great project and video. I think you could potentially make the board even smaller by using the surface mount IC instead of the full arduino board

[@salvoix86]

That mouse is a Decepticon!

[@benw5659]

Haha cant believe it, I was just finishing my shape adaptive mouse project and just saw this video. I guess great minds think alike. Hmm maybe we could combine the two designs into something something more.

[@ChrisHalden007]

Such a quality project. Amazing 👍

[@SP95]

Man made a Madcatz R.A.T. 12 by himself

[@MrArrakis9]

It would be cool to see this type of design methodology aimed at a similar shape to the Logitech leap or . really cool design otherwise the use of ball joints to adjust is a really ingenious design.

[@fortris]

Minor correction but 3:16 is an image of the wooting 80he, not 60he+.

[@DiversionG]

I'm no business expert but you gotta sell an assembled version. Plenty of people would happily pay a few hundreds for one of these

[@youtubeneedsfix]

wow what a cool project.

[@realeatisaiy]

this is such a cool project!

[@chriseyebee]

If I had the means, I would definitely want to try out the vertical setting.

[@ScienceFoxxy]

Just get one now, so when pyottdesign makes a new video, you can be one step closer to designing something very cool instead 👍

[@plyr2]

This makes me want to start a company selling them.

[@lunaumbra5179]

Damn. What a build. I love ergo stuff. To bad I prefer trackball.

[@zepeuf]

This makes me think a lot about the mad catz mice, check the RAT 8+, you might have already seen it in your researches. Great mouse btw. Nice project too :)

[@jesterKingCode]

Yay, Kyria spotted. I love my Kyria keyboards too :)

[@anoirbentanfous]

A couple of weeks ago, I wrote in Logitech Discord what would be a nowadays mouse would be... I wish that your mouse has some of that features too... I think buying a used Logitech MX Revolution mouse as a basis then changing the shell and adding few buttons and modding the PCB to support easy replacement of worn buttons (no soldering), I was even planning to start a project and started looking for options, like you did to have a custom PCB that uses RPI 2040 or Arduino nano...

[@markjuliusr.bassig5342]

He is here again going damn🔥OOOOHHHMMMMMYYYYYGGGGGOOOODDDDD

[@artemyevtushenko8722]

Thank you for making this open source. So awesome. Do you think FDM would be practical for printing the components?

[@memeiki]

When is this entering mass production! this is great. I'd also love different colors like red from the og r.a.t

[@BilabaLabiba]

Reinvented? This is just a 3d printed Cyborg Rat 9 that was released back in 2010 Regardless, this looks amazing. I wish I had a 3d printer to build one.

[@Ilikemakingthings]

Amazing! So much inspiration

[@zero8034_]

i'd want to add in some adjustable base plates to allow the half vertical to turn full vertical or a more near full vertical mouse but thats just me

[@PyottDesign]

If those aluminum tubes in the extension arms are cut longer it should be possible to make it closer to a vertical layout. It wouldn’t be able to collapse back down to normal size but should work. Have to mess around with that in the future 😁

[@nak_attak]

Yay a new one and it's 32 mins long yippeeeee

[@quattroclub]

Looks fantastic 😮

[@stefanguiton]

Excellent work

[@ZeSpektrum]

Looks cool but I can already feel from out here how mushy the feel is for switches. For something personal use it's better just to print it in one piece after doing some tests with modelling clay.

[@pistolao_vr]

It looks sick!

[@KnexJunkie]

This mouse you made looks interresting. Wouldnt mind giving it a try since im very used to Madcat mouses but yeah this mouse you made does have different appeal. Also to see somebody use a Madcatz mouse in his desgine process makes me happy. I personaly had 1 that survive bankcruptcy of Madcatz and then the mouse laser got damaged on 1 axis (these are 2 axis laser reading mouses that make pinpoint aim). so i bought ather one MadCats 8+ Adv which has 20.000 dpi more then you ever need and adjustable dpi levels / and ofcourse the funictional adjustable to the hand. How ever the only fail to this mouse is the scrolling wheel its a dissapointment (it use a weird contraption not a normal scroll wheel and its something like a potmeter with a mouse wheel into it and a click for 3de mouse) how ever this system once its dirty it require to open the mouse and even afther cleaning it will return the scroll wheel to act normal but it gets dirty again quickly due of open to dirt of the hand or skin remains or something or dust and well the mouse scrolls horrible again. Only thing i can say the lasers in this mouse also 2 axis and they work perfect. but yes sadly due of a bad scroll wheel im forced now to use 2 different mouses and 1 pure for scrolling webpages XD. because if i do that with main mouse its just jumping all over the place...

[@surfinbirdzx]

Nice project! I wander did someone tried to made it with a FDM-printed parts?

[@Tailslol]

Not bad but hot swap switches are a good idea in a mouse in the long therm.3 pin debounce could be good too,or at least a better debouncing algorithm. And ambi version would be nice .

[@aintheidot9111]

What are your thoughts on the pen grip mice? Would you consider making a video on that?

[@kairu_b]

Nice 🐭

[@shaneragans185]

Ok, where is that new hype button at?

[@KIFFIR]

@boardzy needs to see this

[@lachlanlau]

10:48 currently studying mechanical engineering and industrial design, interesting to hear that design comes first in industry!

[@PyottDesign]

Eh, that comment I made was an over simplification. Many places are totally value engineering based with industrial design being almost totally ignored. Other shops are industrial design driven. It really depends on the industry and what position a company is trying to carve out in that industry. Higher margin "premium" brands usually put a lot of focus on ID. Lower margin product companies, not so much.

[@lachlanlau]

@@PyottDesign Thanks for that insight :)

[@0osk]

THIS IS SO COOL! do you think itd be difficult to make a MOBA version of this? something like the corsair scimitar that has a ton of thumb buttons

[@Hurbie_53]

Thanks for thinking about us lefty mouse users. Getting a gaming mouse for lefties is a joke. Many mice pretending to be "symmetrical" end up having thumb buttons on the left side. Yes ther was a special Razer Naga lefty version, but putting a gazzilion buttons to the side of the mouse doesn0t make it automatically awesome. Running a Logitech 903 where I can modify the side buttons, rarely a Logitech G300 and absolutely mainly Roccat KOVA AIMOs. The latter two have (and I friggin love that with my large hands and long fingers) additional front buttons to the left and right of the main left and right mouse button. Why not more mice have that setup I really don't get.

[@Kero-zc5tc]

This looks cool but I feel like the soldering may limit the actual audience of this making it , I know that you as a forerunner in this exotic mouse kind it’s only natural for something like this. Also 👍 for making it open source unlike some who charge exorbitant amounts for next to nothing cough cough optimum cough cough

[@tobozo]

awesome work, thanks for sharing! having to use a separate stl for left-handed and right-handed kinda defeats the adjustable/adaptive concept of that mouse though. would it be realistic to make it 100% adjustable e.g. by making that thumb panel usable on boths sides without requiring a different stl file?

[@somryein]

when should i expect a check for my jlpcb finders fee? great work as usual man.

[@vandliszt]

Could you include perhaps a programmable number pad instead of the two thumb buttons or would it be too difficult to code in?

[@drzen7703]

I really like swiftpoint Z mouse layout design, After I started using swiftpoint Z I can no longer accept any other mouse layout.

[@LightSocerGamesBR]

Awesome men, Just Awesome

[@jeudcastaneda5414]

Aah yes a bionicle mouse!

[@boptech]

I wanna see boardzy review this

[@franklawrence1232]

This is Awesome!