Mouthwashing FULL STORY & ENDING EXPLAINED

[@bigramen500]

anya saying "I have to believe our worst moments dont make us monsters" to jimmy becomes so much more impactful when you think about what she would think his worst moment was... it felt like even though she was scared of him after what he did she still wanted to believe there were redeemable parts of him, and finally she just accepted he really was a monster.

[@dastoto0166]

she really had no choice but to repeat that phrase over and over again, because after jimmy took the role of the captain that was the only way for her to stay sane

[@idiotoninternet]

And/or to placate him… to try and appeal to him and make him not think she’s against him as a form of self defence.

[@julixpinguimon8023]

Yeah after finishing the game when I saw this scene again it was like damnn so sad

[@JJ-en7pm]

@@dastoto0166IKRR

[@jac1207]

There is one small point that doomed them all, and that was ironically the kindness of Curly. If he actually followed his company's directions to tell them the news of their layoff much closer to their destination, it wouldn't have given Jimmy time to stew in resentment and commit that crime. Not only that, but them being closer to their destination might've also meant better chance of rescue. One of those cruel twists, a well written one since it turned a character strength into a flaw.

[@ccchhheeennn2]

He even protected them by the way he hand fed them every piece of information. Usually kind souls like him will enable others, because there’s no way in hell they would do and act as viciously as eventually they get treated by abusers.

[@skaterstorm]

Very well-written indeed.

[@AmyStache]

Doesn’t curly tell them a few days before the crash, and he crashes because of the pregnancy? Because not only would he be fired but prosecuted back on earth, it takes about a month to know that you’re pregnant, so the rape would’ve happened far before Curly telling them

[@Tauposaurus]

​@@AmyStache my impression of Jimmy is that he planned to downplay and gaslight people about what happened with Anya, but the presence of a kid sort of throws all that out the window. Curly does feel like a man who's been told about it but downplays it, or try to avoid the event as to not reevaluate his long friendship with Jimmy.

[@Winters004]

@@AmyStache It's likely a combination of the two factors. Jimmy was already in a bad place when news of the pregnancy comes out, as he feels that Curly betrayed him and at that point nothing was going to stop him from crashing the ship. Had Curly kept his mouth shut like he was supposed to, then maybe Jimmy would be more inclined to take his advice and own up to what he did to Anya.

[@oldusty523]

Other people have mentioned it, but I really want to address Anya's SA by Jimmy unfortunately saying that she was only "mentally abused" by him isn't enough. It's implied, but so much so that it is generally accepted as canon. - Jimmy constantly belittles Anya, even yelling at her, and reacts extremely poorly to learning about the pregnancy. None of his dialogue about her or with her is positive or even really neutral; it's constant verbal abuse. - Anya very clearly does not like Jimmy and is afraid of him throughout the entirity of the story, going as far as to removing the gun and because she cannot *protect* herself from him, instead hides it in fear of him using it. This reaction does not come from her being paranoid; it's supported by a few key moments of dialogue. - She asks why the sleeping quarters don't lock when talking to Curly, and then in the next flashback scene with her, she says, "I'm pregnant," and follows with, "I know you'd never give me the gun to protect myself." - Her disgust at watching Jimmy physically abuse Curly while force-feeding his medication can be interpreted as a reminder of her trauma. It kind of astounds me that there's some people who shut this idea down just because it's subtextual. Jimmy's shittiness goes beyond feeding Curly his own flesh, beyond crashing the ship, beyond forcing his crewmates, whom he now is "responsible" to suffer, and beyond throwing Curly under the bus just to be in charge. He says his life would be ruined back on Earth, and it's not just because he now has to take responsibility for a kid. He would have to take responsibility for assaulting a crew member; taking this into consideration makes it a little more clear as to why he went as far as to crash the entire ship. This asshole has the audacity to call himself the "hero" at the end of it all, sharing this righteous title with Curly, who has only shown kindness. Jimmy doesn't care about anyone but himself, his version of "taking responsibility" is to wax poetically that he was a *hero* in the end instead of actually helping the others. Jimmy is a delusional monster.

[@trans_boy_kole7640]

I feel so bad for Swansea too. We don't know why he was protecting the escape pod, but from what he says about what she told him I think his only attempt at his own redemption was protecting the pod so that she could use it to save her and her baby if it came to it. And as sad it it is she he kills his intern he knows without the med staff, who took her life, the boy would suffer, Swansea wasn't a good man, he had issues, but he wanted to do better, and thanks to Jimmy that last shot at redemption was taken away from him, I can't blame Swansea for trying to kill Jimmy, when all he'd done was sexually assault crew mates, abuse the captin, kill the intern and cause him to relapse after being clean for so long.

[@oldusty523]

@@trans_boy_kole7640 A lot of people interpret Swansea as protecting the pod for Daisuke, too, but either way most people (including me) don’t think he’s saving it for himself. Another thing is that it’s very likely that Jimmy is imagining Swansea attempting to kill him out of delusional paranoia, especially with the scene where Swansea is *tied to a chair* before Jimmy shoots him. A lot of the game is super interpretive, but SO many people believe Swansea is a flawed man genuinely doing his best to help the others even if what he’s doing isn’t “right,” whereas Jimmy only does the right thing to appear good

[@-simp-3689]

I don’t think ‘subtext’ is really enough to say something is for sure cannon… I mean he’s a piece of shit for other reasons but why do we have to push SA on every piece of media? Just my 5 cents, believe what you want but don’t villainize others who don’t see it how you do.

[@Komelikus]

​@@-simp-3689Don't you think is super sus that he knows how to do a cocktail to put people to sleep? Even so... To "hide" the flavor?

[@maybedan695]

@@-simp-3689 It's v obvious Jimmy raped Anya, it not being explicitly stated is part of the message of the game in how SA victims are failed. Your inability to see what the game is trying to communicate is not pushing SA on every piece of media

[@plernPTM]

I really like the relationship between Daisuke and Swansea. I saw them as like, an Uncle and his Nephew. When he called him a good person , “ a Useless ray of goddamn sunshine “ , “Just a damn good kid trying his best “ and when Swansea said that Daisuke taught him a lot. Taught him to be happy. And when he cried at Daisuke’s death…:((

[@bratzillla]

yes but more like grumpy dad adopts sunshine son (but doesnt admit it until the kid is dead :( )

[@HarveyJackson1967]

Why did he kill him if he liked him lol?

[@Abi-pu6sp]

​@@HarveyJackson1967 feel like its pretty obvious....

[@plernPTM]

@@HarveyJackson1967 put him out of his misery ig?

[@HarveyJackson1967]

@@Abi-pu6sp I have a history of media illiteracy, would you be so kind as to share why? Thanks

[@chrisdiokno5600]

I have seen the belief that Swansea was planning on using the cryopod yes, but not for him. Some note, given how he seems to see Daisuke as an almost surrogate son, to have him be placed inside.

[@archangelvalentine]

Yeah it looks like Swansea was just looking for a chance to get Daisuke in the pod and also keep Jimmy away. Daisuke 😭

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@archangelvalentine Yeah, Daisuke was the least jaded and more optimistic crewmate, and the youngest, so it makes some sense to save him

[@Shatterstar]

@@chrisdiokno5600 Everybody else was fucked but Daisuke was young, he had a chance to be something, to be better, and Swansea knew it.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@Shatterstar That is quite true. Perhaps, in a way, Swanswa say Daisuke as a second chance

[@ThePicturePixie]

I agree. He keeps talking about how upset he is that Daisuke doesn't have a pod.

[@Gotabonetopick]

Jimmy being an evil narcissist really recontextualizes the "people aren't defined by their worst moments" thing. Because Jimmy absolutely can be defined by that, because of the extreme and deadly impact he had on everyone around him.

[@SassyNymphet]

meh

[@brokerfan600]

narcissism is a personality disorder so maybe don't throw it around like that ..

[@fruitloops2058]

​@@brokerfan600 they said he was an *evil* narcissist, not that him being a narcissist made him evil

[@brokerfan600]

@@fruitloops2058 ohh okay thank you

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@brokerfan600 It gets so much worse as jimmy after doing a bad thing suddenly gains power. Paralleling the real world .

[@victormorales7392]

Some people wonder why Anya was so disturbed by force feeding Curly the painkillers. My guess is that not only was she traumatized seeing her half burnt half dismembered captain, but she was traumatized at the idea of "forcing" Curly to take medication without his consent, just like how Jimmy forced himself onto her without her consent. Jimmy forcefully inserted himself into her and Anya can't bring herself to metaphorically do the same to Captain Curly.

[@trashy-can6811]

We can add guilt to the mix, seeing the only person who tried helping her through her assault and now seeing what happened to him could bring guilt with another factor of how everything played out ultimately because her assault and Curlys confrontation lead to Insane Jimmy crashing the ship. So maybe she felt guilty, and indirectly FEEL like she cause the injury of Curly.

[@Filthyllamas]

No i dont think thats what makes her reluctant to do that, ofc what you said also takes part of it but what makes it hurt the most was probably bc she knew what happened. During her conversation with curly, there was actually a line where it points out that curly was actually care about her, and a proof that curly was a really good person, and its not a secret that curly is a good pilot and coincidentally enough the crash happened after curly know from her and confronted jimmy. Although we wont know whats actually on her mind, but based on her action i think its safe to assume that she knows what happened, thats why she locked herself in medical with curly, she wouldnt die by his side if she didnt trust him.

[@owouwu9468]

​@@FilthyllamasJimmy was the one that assaulted her, not curly

[@biezinholiveira]

​@Sofus-fu4ro it's media literacy and interpretation.

[@chrisauret3785]

jeesh this is laughable

[@lneethn2529]

Curly was a good captain who cared about everyone in his crew but was misunderstood by those exact same people, especially Jimmy. Even when he's in that condition, the crew saw him as food to keep them alive. And Jimmy was still blaming him throughout 80% of the story. What a tragic character.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Yeah it gets almost cartoonish ngl

[@Catbeans99]

If Curly had waited to tell them as he was instructed, they would have lived.

[@orwellmushaikwa2591]

Were they really feeding on him though? I did wonder why it always looked like his feet and hands were missing. :/

[@Dolfa_LPH]

​@@orwellmushaikwa2591 Only Jimmy actually "feasted" on Curly. Plus, hands and feet aren't as nutritious as other parts of the body. Don't ask how I know.

[@orwellmushaikwa2591]

@@Dolfa_LPH lol I won't ask 😂

[@Peachy_kitten]

He fed curly, his own leg. This is the most disgusting story ive ever heard. R's voice encapsulates the sheer horror of this story. Hats off to you my friend.

[@Skullfiend]

I was a bit disgusted, but Fear and Hunger has much worse stuff overall.

[@Blaquebarbgamer]

@@SkullfiendRight, that game was worse 😭 forgot about that one.

[@sambreen9953]

@@Skullfiend But it's still a good game

[@comicsans3537]

The fact you need to move his esophagus to correctly get to his stomach is also something to sour over- he probably was either forcing his hand into the back of Curly's throat or manually holding his esophagus in some different ways :(

[@heroic_antagonist759]

He pulled a Hannibal Lecter

[@TransmutedCuppyCake]

I’m not a fan of how this youtuber makes it sound like what happened to Anya wasn’t SA and Jimmy’s problem is “not wanting to take care of the child”. She’s clearly traumatized and fearful, demanding to know why the cockpit and med bay have locks but not the bedrooms. Jimmy is upset at the idea of getting reported, not the baby.

[@nalciel6577]

To give him the benefit of a doubt, maybe Gamersault did not realise Anya was SA'd since it wasn't stated explicitly and he missed the hints. I definitely got the vibe that she was SA'd from some of the dialogue, but maybe some people are less perceptive.

[@NauticalOnion]

@@nalciel6577 yeah i just finished the game and I honestly didn't make the link to deduce it was SA. Went straight over my head with everything else that was going on.

[@thegermanfool8953]

​​​@@NauticalOnionsame here. It just came off as Jimmy not wanting to take responsibility for a baby he had with anya. I genuinely thought that she didn't want to see him or be around him because of his lack of responsibility for the unborn child they had together. The person who made the original comment is definitely someone who either watched videos about the game before playing it: or, got the hint about the SA Anya faced due to Jimmy. Either way, the devs did a fantastic job on the storyline.

[@kloa4219]

@@nalciel6577 Keep in mind that Jimmy knew how to drug people and did it with Swanson, probably did it with Anya and SA'd her.

[@sairus3239]

Well, I noticed at some videos that this youtuber often changes the narrative of games or don't even mentions some endings to fit the "atmosphere" or something. I liked the videos on this channel, but now I'm setting them up as a background noise at most and always read the comments for the things the videos didn't mention.

[@The13thRonin]

Great video, however there are a few inaccuracies in this video: -You never mention that the entire crew was in on the plan to eat Curly (Jimmy talks openly about keeping Curly alive for two reasons and the crew agreeing to this from before they were out of medicine or food). They have actually been eating bits of Curly for weeks/months before Jimmy ended them (they couldn't live off the mouthwash alone). Anya refers to this as their "worst moment" and the guilt from it is what causes her to do what she does to herself. -You claim that Daisuke passed away in the vent. This is incorrect. Swansea ended his suffering with the axe (you can see the gash on his face multiple times confirming this was not a fever dream but his true end). When Swansea says "I should have protected the kid" he's referring to his failure to stop Jimmy finding the cryogenic chamber so that he could have eventually put Daisuke in it (potentially saving him). -You claim that Jimmy ended Swansea in cold blood. This is partially correct. Swansea chased Jimmy to the control room with the axe where Jimmy knocked him out with a pipe and tied him up with the cord in the locker. It is true that he ends him while he's tied up, however let's not pretend that Swansea wasn't about to do the same thing to Jimmy. -Anya does not have the child willingly with Jimmy. He forces himself on her which is what prompts Jimmy to crash the ship in order to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.

[@Tikky503]

Wheres the evidence it was SA and not a consensual mistake?

[@ReaperInTheFlowers]

@@Tikky503He’s always putting Anya down. It’s heavily implied because Anya asks why there aren’t locks on the crew cabins when other areas have locks

[@Tikky503]

@@ReaperInTheFlowers I felt like that was just a reasonable question. Personal areas should have locks. I looked into it, im not convinced it was SA, but it could have been.

[@ReaperInTheFlowers]

@@Tikky503 Anya’s question ALLUDED to SA; she doesn’t understand why they wouldn’t be able to lock the sleeping quarters because she would like to lock her sleeping quarters in order to keep herself safe. Why else would Jimmy crash the ship? He’s a coward that doesn’t want to take responsibility for his actions (SA’ing Anya) and knows he will go to jail because Anya had actual proof (the baby she was forcibly impregnated with). I don’t believe Anya would sleep with Jimmy willingly: he’s absolutely awful to her.

[@withercat1801]

When do they mention eating Curly? Aside from the obvious, of course. I don’t remember Jimmy mentioning the reasons for keeping him alive, just that they’ve all agreed to do so

[@Pre-Nup]

The fact that the creator of this video couldn't explicitly state that Jimmy raped Anya is a perfect example of what happened with the crew. Curly and Jimmy were "frenemies" at best, and Curly was trying to get Jimmy to do the right thing (take accountability) while also in a way, defending him from the consequences of his own actions- he even tries to make Jimmy feel better by reassuring him that things will be okay, multiple times. Jimmy is a horrible person and a rapist. He never truly took responsibility for his own actions, he instead made multiple poor decisions in an effort to run from what he did to Anya.

[@moonlocking408]

You do realize demonetization exists right. It's not because he is Blatantly down playing it.

[@pepperpaws8363]

the amount of times ive seen dudes play this game and not get how spelled out the sexual assault is is baffling to me lmao

[@autoresponder9817]

@@moonlocking408 I mean, Manly had the intuition, just didn't explicitly say it but basically made the viewer know he got the hint. Besides, he's already used abuse and a plethora of fucking bleeped out, so there was NOTHING stopping him from going a bit in depth and stating that it was an SA, not a MENTAL abuse.

[@alilaro]

@@moonlocking408 there are so many ways to get around this. and why bother making the essay if you're gonna cut out one of, if not the main component, of the entire plot.

[@oslo0323]

@@alilaro I don't think it's malice or censorship from GamerSault but rather the subtext flew over him. I mean the guy makes lots of videos, has to play lots of games. how long does he take between each game to analyse them beyond surface summaries? Likely not that much

[@tomimn2233]

Curly's goodness, sentimentality and sympathy for the crew is tragically what brought about this downfall. This was the one time the company was being correct. The message was for the captain's eyes only, and the instruction explicitly said to hold off the announcement until the delivery of the cargo. Say what you will about the cold dreadful policy of the company, but *protocol* exists for a reason, and for a company as large as Pony Express with a horrible track record of exploitation, it MUST have had similar cases of mutiny and rogue crewmates, and as such have developed a very strict safety measures to prevent them. Had Curly followed company protocol, the crew would have at least survived. They can hate him later, but they'd be alive.

[@joaopedrofm1299]

one thing a lot of people don't mention, Anya says "you were right (Jimmy), you were right all along, i should've done this from the beginning" before killing herself, implying that at some point Jimmy told her to do that during his outbursts, this might be what he said to Anya in this scene 23:44.

[@sayto_00]

Most disturbing part for me was that the nurse was raped. The youtuber talks about the pregnancy as if it was consensual but that's not how I interpret it. Jimmy was unhinged and was getting extremely horny (talking about getting turned on by cartoon horses, that becomes relevant later), the nurse saw that during the last psyche evaluation and had no feelings for him. Hell she didn't even want to give him the latest Psyche Evalution that's how much she didn't like him. Once the captain told everyone they were fired, Jimmy saw no future and decided to enact his desires on the only female on the ship. As to why Anya didn't just tell everyone in the crew or why she seems "okay" around Jimmy after the incident, most victims don't mention it due to shame they have and victims can co-exist with their attackers. She only told the captain because she trusted him and reasonably he was in a position of authority. She literally says she doesn't want him in the ship anymore. It's clearly not a situation where she wants him to step up as a Dad. That same moment captain confronts Jimmy and Jimmy crashes the cargo ship, knowning he'll go to prison "when we get back". Once Jimmy becomes Captain, Anya has no one else to turn to (she tells Swansea later). Honestly there's alot of hints towards it like Anya mentioning why the medical office has locks but not the sleeping quarters, Anya and Swansea talking in the cockpit, Anya getting startled when spoken to as Jimmy, or the baby horse abomination that's given birth during Jimmy's last dream which isn't mentioned in this vid. It's not explicitly stated but it's there.

[@Kranpus]

Holy shit ye you are right! Cause other wise the scene were they say they lock the medican place and not sleeping quarters would be useless, but with that explanation, that scene makes sense!!! And also he dint want take responsibility is common In rpists were he would blame her and not him, so take responsibility would have even more meaning, as everything bad hes done he hasnt taken responsibility

[@cosmicdragon9237]

The huge clue pointing out to being a r4pe is what Anya says to Curly: "of all the rooms, why dormitories don't have a door lock.."

[@johnathonmichels3779]

Came here for this. I came away with the same interpretation, thanks for writing it out

[@peanutsistheverygreatest]

bruh what the fuck,Jimmy!?….

[@haesome8613]

Damn how did my stupid dense ass miss all this, I was wondering why Anya said she didn't want him around

[@MrSilly_Man]

This really shook me to my core, those sounds are... Horrible, So. Realistic, You can tell that they put a-lot of work into this game.

[@keip4568]

DAISUKE IS DEI-SUE-KAY Not Daisuki 大好きwhich means "like" in Japanese... @GamerSault If is literally like Sasuke from Naruto...

[@cosmicdragon9237]

Anya's comment on the door locks is because jimmy got her pregnant.. yeah, without her consent

[@peanutsistheverygreatest]

Oh My-Bruh What The Actual Fuck,Jimmy!?

[@xavierfaust9417]

WHAT

[@shreadinmatt17]

I'm having a hard time remembering her words, I didn't know he r@ped her. What did see say that gave that away? Just asking cause I must have missed it.

[@peanutsistheverygreatest]

@@shreadinmatt17 👀basically She definitely does NOT like Jimmy at all(because He’s an Asshole toward Everyone and a fucking disgusting Creep towards Her) and then after They were all letting go from a Jobs and/or something like that,He graped Her in the one of the Rooms with NO DOOR LOCKS.. and then after that messed up Incident,She actually and unwillingly got Pregnant with that Grapist's Baby inside of Her….. that is probably exactly why that Monster did what He did so that He didn’t want to go to jail for both intentionally sabotaging the whole things AND also the convictions of Grape towards Her

[@cosmicdragon9237]

@@shreadinmatt17 "why do You think they put a door lock on the medical rook?" That's also why she says she wants Jimmy out of the ship

[@xavierfaust9417]

Even in the end, Jimmy couldn't take responsibility. He ran away by killing himself. What a sick fucking joke of a person. What he did to everyone, Anya... it makes me sick to my stomach. Sequel when?

[@Tk-mj1cl]

If this option isn't "responsible", then what Jimmy should have done in the end instead?

[@altiked]

Tbh this is a kind of a story that does NOT need a sequel.

[@tunakimbap1]

@@Tk-mj1clIf you really fucked everything up like Jimmy did, the only accountability that he could've atoned for would be to kill Curly in the end. Man was suffering for MONTHS with 3rd degree burns and he still refused to kill him - only to get him into a 20-year Cryo sleeping chamber in hopes that someone will find him and when they do, he will still physically, mentally and emotionally never be the same? Jimmy should've ended his suffering but he still ended up being delusional right until the very end. I also think that he should've let the drunk ol man just hack him away and let him kill Jimmy instead of Jimmy taking the easy way out of shooting himself.

[@BoneDaddy69420]

how in the hell do you make a sequel to this story

[@donotreadmyprofile9373]

@@Tk-mj1cltaking responsibly of Anya as well like bro SA her and got her pregnant which is equally disgusting

[@avatale8612]

We need more stories where we find out we're playing as the villian

[@thegermanfool8953]

Definitely! It's always shocking and jaw-dropping to realize that your character IS the problem. Your character IS the tragedy everyone has to endure. At first; I thought curly caused the crash to the ship in the demo or that Jimmy was trying to stop the crash. But no. It was us all along. Seeing your character basically cause the downfall of the entire crew was honestly devastating. We actually thought we were trying to help everyone survive - not fulfill the deranged mind of a narcissistic psychopath trying to pretend to be a captain and a good person.

[@normanred9212]

Play Silent Hill 2

[@DamianSlayr]

Watch Attack on Titan

[@ftg_alt]

OFF game. literally what I thoughta when I realised that the protag was the bad guy

[@dylives7667]

New stories? Definitely. Until then, have a go at games that have already done that.

[@Cryptcat0]

You didn't explain the vent part, the sematary part, or the baby/womb part near the end. If anyone is curious, it was basically going through how daisuke, swansea and anya ended up dead.

[@Axel-px3nw]

He was taking responsibility

[@Cryptcat0]

@@Axel-px3nw yes

[@glibchubik4090]

Yeah I especially wanted to hear his interpretations on those scenes :( Not as thourough of an explanation as I hoped it would be

[@camerabox1]

⁠@@Axel-px3nwhe wasn’t, he until the end denied responsibility, instead he forced curly to stay alive in a pod waiting to be found rather than mercy killing him and awaiting judgement himself

[@corele1777]

In my opinion one pretty sad thing is that everything could've been saved if curly just didn't say to the crew that the company was gonna close, If the letter from the company has been sent only for the captain to read it I think it was for safety so the others won't go crazy like jimmy, more like jackass, did. 😞😭 Edit : OMG thanks for the likes guys I wasn't expecting this 😮

[@thegermanfool8953]

The bad part is that curly didn't want to hide the truth from them and was being a genuinely good guy by not keeping them in the dark about the reality of it all. A captain just trying to be a good captain. Jimmy, however, is literal human garbage in the flesh.

[@revolt_4588]

Blud should have listened to the part to not tell them untill they are close to the destination

[@thegermanfool8953]

@@revolt_4588 100%. It sucks curly had to witness everything fall apart, and is probably still drifting off into space in cryosleep.

[@silentj624]

After what his crew did to him we are NOT going to blame Curly. Even if he should have kept his mouth shut the punishment was WAY over the top. Edit: when I say kept his mouth shut I mean about the company going under not the rape.

[@KiffKan]

personally i believe thats actually not the reason. The game is in the perspective of a false narrator he framed curley/them getting fired as the reason but the real reason was that he raped Anya and only crashed the ship once curly confronted him about that.

[@bluecathedral]

I’m sure a lot of people have brought this up before, but Jimmy immediately ordering & knowing how to drug Swansea is such a chilling thing in light of the Anya reveal

[@GamingG4276]

Now this is the kind of horror I find interesting. Not the kind that relies on jumpscares or gore, but the kind that uses it's atmosphere and makes you wonder: "Where am I?" "And what is actually going on?"

[@Eldex0]

It does use it's fair share of gore and funnily enough, the two classic jump scare parts were the least good parts

[@dylives7667]

Just like how horror movies where we see the characters get brutally murdered by the antagonist have gotten their own genre called "Slasher Flicks" I'm pretty sure this genre of horror also has a name of its own.

[@theequalizer694]

Swansea telling Jimmy off before he gets killed by him was the highlight of this story.

[@kevinren3228]

One big clue that Jimmy was actually the one who crashes the ship is that in the beginning of the game you were sitting on the LEFT seat in the cockpit. It is also the seat where Jimmy sits throughout the flashbacks.

[@jaypadua5197]

Damm I didn't notice that

[@rossovivie]

*I'm actually surprised there is any debate or confusion of what happened to Anya? The moment I saw it's a crew of all men and a single woman on a year long space trip with rooms without locks, my only thought was "God have mercy on this woman...". I thought this was the most cut and dry plot point? Anyway, thanks for making sense of the rest of the game.*

[@mikei6605]

Yeah it’s disappointing the amount of ppl especially men who don’t acknowledge how Jimmy raped Anya and Curly knew about it and did nothing when it’s the whole point of the game.

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

It’s not explicitly stated it’s implied it makes sense for people to not understand it

[@amyyaku5022]

⁠@@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096I think even kids could understand it. But, the real problem is cases like this happen in real life and often get overlooked or even ignored, especially by men.

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

@ it’s extremely easy for people to overlook things if their not explicitly told it it happens a lot from sarcasm to horrible things like this

[@rekrn12345]

You need to grow up if that is your thought process

[@Kaiser-in2od]

Curly would also most likely suffer some sort of withdrawls when his meds wore off after at most the second month. They never said how much they'd give him, but yeah. Also, it'd be a miracle for curly to live as long as he did with just pain killers... I mean, shit, in the condition that guy was in, he'd be (un)lucky to live like 48 hours without some very talented medical treatment. And even then.

[@King_Ky]

You know a character is a REAL piece of work when R stops his story explanation to voice just how much he dislikes a character lol. Love ya, R.

[@seungminsstolenhotcheetos]

Jimmy is a sick joke.. The only reason he crashed the ship is because he knew he'd go to jail for r@ping Anya once they got back. Like what the hell?

[@mollyryan5381]

I thought curly crashed it?

[@mirasobad9799]

Curly crashed it because he was mentally unstable

[@killsomefool1239]

he's just like every grapist, theyre the most cowardly men on the planet

[@BobBobson-r8m]

Grapist? You can say rape. No one’s coming after you for typing what it actually is. It’s far more disrespectful To use these silly names than acknowledge the seriousness of the act.

[@killsomefool1239]

@@BobBobson-r8m I'm used to trying to talk about it on tiktok and it being taken down so now I just unconciously censor the word

[@MinimaLaifu]

Omfg I just realized Swansea axing the screen is foreshadowing what he did to Daisuke.. 😢

[@scavenger2002]

Honestly everything was Jimmy's fault.

[@Nams_88]

Oh my goodness wait, when swansea described daisuke as a sunshine😭😭😣

[@MinimaLaifu]

@@Nams_88 ikr?? 😢

[@buddiegaming9355]

I mean... I remember watching the demo of this game and thinking that this was gonna get depressing once the full game comes out. But... Jesus. Wasn't expecting it to get THAT bad.

[@CharlieIsAwesome_]

I'm not 100% sure if this adds up, but from my understanding, because Pony Express was going bankrupt it was one of the last manned ships so there would most likely not be anyone looking for the ship to save anyone who was still there. So most likely once the backup power for the cryogenic pod ran out Curly would wake up and suffer until he died of starvation.

[@amugusq7567]

They were talking about passing ship - so i guess they are near the busy transport route - so there should be passenger ships or even military vessels, even if all the cargo trucks are automated. Also the customer who got no delivery will report to authority anyway. Also, IRL in case of event like this sailors are not left to die, nearby ships will try to save them, and nearby states (and of course sailor's state will also do their best) will launch a rescue operation. The only problem is that their comms equipment may be damaged and not reporting their location - but commonly it is a simple and robust piece of tech and also they never mentioned a problem with it.

[@devxved]

A little late to the party but curly basically has no skin, freezing him in that state is immediate death, well freezing anyone is death but lets say hypothetically cryogenic works. Curly still is skinless and badly hurt, cant freeze that and not have consequences. Jim really did kill everyone in a way

[@M00SHTY]

@@devxved if we are talking hypothetically, anything is possible lol.

[@grendelbacani445]

The real horror is Jimmy's competitive gaslighting skills and he even managed to gaslight himself. 😂😂😂

[@zixiongwang9659]

jimmy is the top ten most evil villain in gaming history

[@thegermanfool8953]

One of the best written as well... Despite it being a short story, it's surprising how well and presented his character was, as it takes you awhile to realize he's not some sarcastic, bitter man trying to help everyone... He's a genuine psychopath. The developers did good.

[@zixiongwang9659]

@@thegermanfool8953 i agree. Definitely a character with depth. Somehow he gives me Dutch Van der linde vibes, gaslighting others to cover up his own bad decisions and mistakes, and a shitload of delusion to convince himself that he's doing the right thing, to a point where he rather ends his own life just to not think about it further.

[@JayIngemar]

@@zixiongwang9659 YES he is just like Dutch. However he might be a tiiiiiiiny bit more unhinged in the head than Dutch.

[@zixiongwang9659]

@@JayIngemar yep. I'd rather go on a trip to guarma with dutch than be on the same ship as jimmy.

[@magicman3163]

Curly basically caused this all by being a bad captain

[@OnionSketcher2]

Ngl i feel bad for everyone in game but not Jimmy since he was a hole who just wanted to be higher and higher than everyone

[@peanutsistheverygreatest]

yes that and the fact that Jimmy is also a RAPIST because He actually raped Anya both off-screen and heavily implied

[@kokocoke4948]

Fr

[@phia.abulenciaa]

- at the expense of others, i agree

[@skycallerbuddersky909]

Man this game just really makes me sad. The people that doesn’t deserve pain dies. The dude that tried to redeem himself became bad and insane. The selfish dude got the last laugh, not seeing his mistakes and getting no punishment for the messed up stuff he does. And Curly, who probably wanted to die after all the pain and suffering, gets cryofreezed. I’m not doing okay rn. I think I need a mental break after this game because this game makes me feel depressed.

[@njabulompembe442]

From the moment I saw Carl i wondered why they didn't release him from his suffering 🙏

[@yeahnahyeahnahprivateacc]

I would not mention the word Game when describing this

[@randomrhino7500]

Even if he escaped without any punishment, jimmy own asshole will somehow, will bring something at the end , eventually, even if he escaped

[@lneethn2529]

That's exactly how I feel rn...

[@Crusty-x8g]

Not trying to be a asshole but are you an AI comment bot or did you not watch the whole video? Jimmy had comeuppance when he was in some sort of hallucination guilt hell after he failed to help everyone aboard the ship and being unworthy of filling the role of captain. It's the reason why Jimmy couldn't live himself in the end finally realizing how evil he was and wasn't a hero like Curly. Curly gets the chance to go home, get medical need and tell his story.

[@soup1118]

No cuz some of y'all are saying that the SA isn't obvious when Anya literally wanted the gun to defend herself. She definitely was NOT sad because he "didn't want the baby", she was mortified because she was given a child without wanting to. But no, totes just a theory y'all!!! (Sarcasm)

[@operationcreation5583]

I mean Anya claims to be pregnant yet it has been a few months since she had been impregnated and yet there is no sign she is, so maybe that could be why people are hesitant to believe

[@yintoons7807]

Curly isn't blameless. He failed to protect Anya, who was SA by Jimmy.

[@sabrinatheninja9678]

Thank you! You're the first person I've ever seen to say that so far and it's been driving me nuts!

[@somedumbassintheinternet]

He wasn't at fault though.He didn't know until Anya had already told him. The company didn't install lock on the living quarters.

[@VictorBlackwood-d7m]

literally like, that man is friends with a r.pist

[@BunnyDudette.]

Sure, he’s not blameless. In fact, we could even ‘blame’ him for the crash since it wouldn’t have happened if he did what he was instructed to do and wait, without telling the crew-that is, by your analogy. But why blame him for that if he wasn’t the one who actually done it? Same with the SA, he wasn’t the one to do it, so could we really blame him for that? However, I see that you’re saying that we can blame him for not being able to do anything about it. Yes? Well, enlighten me, what could he have done? I keep trying to think of what I would’ve done to help Anya if I was in Curly’s position, and I end up with the same ‘best’ decision as Curly-confronting Jimmy about what he has done. One thing is he couldn’t think about what to do. He knew from what Anya has told him that she was assaulted by Jimmy. His friend for a long time. What could he do? Well, the best thing he could’ve done (which he did) was confronting Jimmy. Mind you, they’re FAR away from a jail cell, so where would Jimmy go? Another thing is, Anya herself probably didn’t blame Curly for not being able to do anything. I wish we could see this story through her eyes to really see if Curly is to blame.

[@yintoons7807]

@@BunnyDudette. I don't know... maybe tie him up once he knew about Anya's SA since Jimmy cannot be trusted now? It's 3 men against one, it would've been easy. They all ignored Jimmy's clear red flags, Curly let a weirdo on the ship in the first place. But I guess if everyone did everything right, the game wouldn't be interesting. Still, everyone failed Anya.

[@xaviersanchez-ig7li]

jimmy? lied and manipulated others? oh boy I'm seeing someone in that man

[@陆弘毅-s1e]

not our jimmy! couldn’t be precious jimmy!

[@conq1273]

Slippery man that one

[@dfprod.]

i worked for pony express, theyre frauds

[@jatoarkanen4435]

you think this is bad? this chicanery? he's done worse!

[@iamdarky2360]

The scrambled text that appears throughout the game can be translated to ‘take responsibility’ How fitting…

[@marinafons8122]

Anya ressembles a lot Wendy Torrance from the shining~ That's a nice coincidence

[@Soda2033]

Rip to her actor

[@corele1777]

That exactly what I thought and I even think that jimmy kinda looks like Jack nicholson

[@MrTourette-e6t]

@@marinafons8122 I'm not sure it was a coincidence. I think the Devs came out and said they modeled Anya on her

[@dandymaiden]

It’s an unfortunate story a lot of people can relate to, I’m sure we’ve all had a Jimmy in our lives, some might even be jimmies

[@abzu05]

Can agree as someone who used to be like Jimmy, albeit only in the delusional aspect in being so Toxicly Positive.

[@tazepatates4805]

No, I've definitely seen some narcissists in my life but Jimmy is not only that, he's mentally unstable.

[@rosettesionne9139]

Jimmy is a real psychopath who deserves to be in a mental asylum! I saw many narcissists and psychopaths who did terrible deeds but none were as cruel as this psycho!

[@dylives7667]

Maybe. But I hope to God they didn't also get raepd by such person.

[@weplo1597]

Fun fact : Tulpar is a Turk/Turkic mythology. "Tulpar is a legendary winged or celestial horse in Turkic mythology"

[@MuzMysyq]

another fun fact! two tulpars can be seen on Kazakhstan's coat of arms!:)

[@wadejohnston4305]

I always think in these types of stories that keeping ALL the food and survival supplies in one spot( usually lost or damaged in story) just doesn't make sense. Keep multiple stock piles that way if one's destroyed you still have others. Idk am I crazy?

[@jorienwachukwu466]

No, I think that's very reasonable.

[@YueKnEwHandlBAr]

@@jorienwachukwu466it is, man imagine how the story could’ve turned out huh? Lol

[@ruffethereal1904]

I like to think it can be justified by the Pony Express believing it's cheapest to just have the one food storage area and no redundancies.

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

it's not so much as keeping the food in one place for "control" as it is to keep inventory and have people guarding it as well as keeping it "safe" like do you expect a cabinet to catch fire randomly or water to burst into flame's no why would you and the people who do have some food away can't really say that unless they can trust some a-hole won't steal it from the new pile

[@Maurrokh]

That might be useful in very specific emergency situations but also very inefficient when operating under normal conditions

[@bait668]

The scariest parting about Mouthwashing is having to do it every day to maintain dental hygiene.

[@omegadragons321]

god i feel so bad for curly. hes not even properly bandaged and the bandages arent even clean. hes just. in a vegetative state. it sucks and its awful and it makes me sad and i want him to feel better. jimmy on the other hand. if i saw him irl the things i would do cannot be said on youtube

[@BugAidz]

The worst part was that jimmy fed curly his own leg and kept on making him eat it over and over again until he stopped puking and I thought berserk was bad

[@lilhedgehog8576]

The scariest part of this game to me is being disabled and not being able to talk and being at the mercy of someone like Jimmy.

[@jaypadua5197]

Not only that the rest of the crew thinks it's you who caused the ship to crashes and being fed your own flesh by the man who cause all the sufferings. Like dam Jimmy

[@nothingandnowherebuthere]

Im not sure if the name of the game has anything to do with the actual sa of Anya but imagine this from her perspective. She's sa'd. She's stuck on this ship with this monster for a long time. She's pregnant with his baby.The captain knows but will do nothing. The accident happens. Her attacker becomes the captain. They run low on food. They open the cargo and find only mouthwash. (This may be tmi ) depending on what kind of Sa Anya was subjected to im sure she showered a hundred times, brushed her teeth, and used mouthwash. It all seems like one big cruel joke that will never end until she ends it herself. It's unimaginable.

[@UlfMTG]

you know you don't have to shorten sexual assault, right? youtube isn't gonna censor you, the algorithm isn't gonna do anything. You can just say sexual assault. Or rape. We shouldn't be trying to hide these things, it only belittles them.

[@dylives7667]

What in the actual kcuf.

[@aberrationman1162]

So TL:DR: Incel on spaceship kills everyone

[@bonetrous]

27:55 wait could it be? I always wondered why there was a scene where swansea was chasing after jimmy, considering that he doesn't seem to have the energy when he "killed" daisuke. I like the theory where that all was just one of jimmy's many delusions and in actuallity, he might actually be the one to kill daisuke to become the "captain" and "give mercy" for daisuke's suffering, and swansea angered by him started to chase after him instead. Idk!

[@casvirgile]

Anya was assaulted by Jimmy, they were not consensual

[@TheOriginalReiChikita]

"I have to believe our wirst moments don't make us monsters Jim." Hits hard when you connect dots

[@CriticalReflexOfficial]

It's amazing how much effort you put into structuring everything in this video. Huge thanks for putting it together and sharing it with everyone who watched. We hope you enjoyed the story and had a great time playing Mouthwashing!

[@wake6000]

This is a good wake up call for all the losers who think “rich/successful people are evil”. No, most are not, just like any other people there are good ones and there are bad ones. Just because you are suffering on the edge of poverty because of your bad decisions, doesn’t mean that you get to blame others for it. Suck it up and take responsibility.

[@Lincoln.ismyname]

summary -curly invites jimmy on the ship and gives him a job as copilot so he can get away from what was bothering him on earth. -curly was liked by all the crew members except jimmy because he was jealous of how much trust everyone put into curly -jimmy assaults anya multiple times eventually getting her pregnant and curly being jimmy's friend leads anya to confide in curly -curly doesn't address the situation till he finds out that anya was pregnant and even still curly avoids holding jimmy accountable -jimmy says that he would fix everthing and instead of taking responsibility he instead crashes the ship into the asteroid and when curly goes to the bay to save them he gets very badly injured -because jimmy was co-pilot he becomes in charge and finds the mouthwash in the cargo bay -after a long time of being in the broken ship abandoned in space anya traps herself in the medicine bay killing herself infront of curly knowing that either way her child would die and she had no way of feeding it -in order to get to anya in the locked medicine bay jimmy forces daisuke into a broken down vent that swansea was gaurding and told daisuke not go into multiple times but the vent falls on him and injures him badly -swansea kills daisuke in order to put him out of his misery. because they didn't have anymore pain killers etc.. -swansea realizes jimmy's true nature (assumed, it wasn't explained) and tries to kill jimmy but instead jimmy ties swansea to a chair and shoots him point blank in order to feel in power again -after a series of mental turmoil jimmy takes curly and puts him in the last cryo pod which was "the last judgment" or whatever you will see a lot of opinions on this but here are my personal opinions: 1. a lot of people don't put enough responsibility on curly despite the fact that curly should have addressed jimmy as a captain instead of a friend and shouldn't have avoided the situation the way he did. curly wasn't as innocent as people tries to lead on, they believe because he wasn't directly involved in the abuse jimmy inflicted on the crew members that it didn't involve him at all however curly knew who jimmy was before he let jimmy on the ship. he saw jimmy get worse as he heard about the abuse anya was put through yet curly did nothing (never even tried to give anya a safe space on the ship) till it was far too late. in other words that cryopod wasn't for curly and he didn't deserve it. 2. A lot of people still think that swansea was keeping that pod for himself but i think its obvious that he and anya were keeping that pod for daisuke. my only proof is that conversation that him and anya had before jimmy walked in and the monologue that swansea had after daisukes death. ANya knew that her baby wouldn't survive and even if it did that would mean raising jimmy's baby and swansea constantly talked about how he had nothing going for him and he didn't care about his life very much especially since he broke his sobriety rather quickly, swansea also didnt like jimmy for obvious reasons. 3. I think that the take responsibility glitch wasn't just for jimmy but for curly too which is why they both have the mirrored experiences. jimmy's hallucinations were about his inner demons and monsters catching up to him as well as his paranoia and need to feel superior while curly's hallucination was about avoiding the issues on the ship and treating it as though its not there thats why he walking in a sea of blood. it was foreshadowing his inability to take control to the point where he couldn't take control. he was so engulfed in guilt that he continued to put himself and his crew in a bad situation in order to avoid punishing jimmy if you read this far thank you so much. tell me if i missed anything and share your theories i'd love to here them and debate ya

[@malewife_]

I know curly was “kind”. But i need everyone to please stop saying that, because in the end. He didn’t want to accept what his best friend was doing to someone. He thought they could “fix” it. Curly should’ve been on Anya’s side, not Jimmy.

[@becsterino]

Curly could have been sweet talking Jimmy until they arrived (it he wasn't fully aware of the gravity of the situation) which still led to everyone getting royally screwed. Imagine if Jimmy was told he was going to be held responsible for his actions.

[@malewife_]

@ Curly should have never told them anything about the job, that’s his fault, he was the one who told them about the unavoidable truth, when he was told to wait. Sure he did it to be honest with the crew but that caused everything. Caused him to spiral.

[@iilostmysock]

I feel like a lot of this could have been avoided if only Curly was consequent for the good of all crew members. Curly should never have employed Jimmy, an unexperienced and clearly not mentaly stable person as his co-capitan. When Curly finds out that Anye has a child with Jimmy (and that Jimmy is mentaly, and perhaps sexually abusing her), he tries to talk it out with him, twice, and then lets him go without any consequences. His last mistake was obviously informing everybody of their termination while they were still 8 months away from reaching their destination, trying to be fair instead of thinking how will it affect the crew's mental state and safety in the longer run. I feel like Curly's biggest flaw in all of this is that he FEELS responsible for everyone and everything. He felt responsible for Jimmy and his problems on earth, he felt responsible for Jimmy abusing and impregnating Anye, and he felt responsible for his crew's termination. Even though it seems like he is just being "too nice" its actually a dangerous flaw that led to him ignoring the problems that Jimmy was creating, and instead of being consequential towards Jimmy and make him take responibility, Curly was the one taking the blame. I feel bad for Curly but i feel like hiring a wrack of a person with no competences and then spoiling him is not a very "responsible leader" behaviour.

[@exmilitary9]

Can someone explain to me did jimmy SA'ed the nurse? Cuz there was lines like "i wish rooms had lock" and "i hide the gun so he doesnt gets it"

[@cuppedcup]

i think it’s not known for sure, but considering how the nurse deals with it all, on top of all those lines, makes it clear to me that he did

[@scavenger2002]

Judging by how Anya is scared and nervous around Jimmy and how she talks about the locks in the cabins, it's implied it wasn't consensual.

[@Bri-lk7re]

Also all of the enemies late game make babies noises and there’s a part that alludes to being an ultrasound

[@Deliar12]

And that's why you do not play good friend with the co-workers. If captain kept silent about layoffs that sicko wouldnt have lost it. You can never know how people react, and in the ship that have YEARS to get to it's destination? Yea, idiotic idea to tell "hey, ya all getting fired people"

[@njabulompembe442]

I get the feeling the captain is the type of person that thinks he can fix everything and from what he said he didn't want to keep secrets from them he was probably close to everyone there (evidence being how everyone even *jimmy* wanted to keep him alive)

[@elizabethclarke4981]

He was already an asshole, just by the way he talks to Curly, he should have not bring him on the ship to begin with

[@V.VIIIBeanman]

@@njabulompembe442 Exactly But as Deliar said. This was the root cause. I said the same thing. ALL of this started from the Captain Curly telling them it was GG. He should have stick to the plan that the company laid out but his sense of being a good person broke that rule. The company as inept as they are have these rules and safe measures for a reason. That's why the captain only has access to mostly everything. Safety. So for safety reasons. Curly should have stuck to the rule and waited. Then if they had crashed still due to Jimmy. They would have been close to the destination and easily found or might not have even crashed and able to disable Jimmy. Curly was just too good of a man to keep that info to himself but sometimes it's best not to break protocol. Especially when you stuck for over a year in a ship. Also Curly probably shouldn't have done Jimmy's pysch eval either. I think he was biased to Jimmy as it seemed like they were "friends" and that let to Curly not being able to see the signs that Jimmy was going off the rails.

[@Schleicherfreund]

The trip only takes a year and they were halfway through.

[@Deliar12]

@@V.VIIIBeanman My thought exactly. That dude Jimmy was one big red flag with his behavior, and captain was stupid in his blind trust. There is a thing called "coworking". They were not friends, they were co-workers that tolerated one another. You can never know what can lurk in people's minds. This game is a good psicological horror that shows just how dangerous some people are in times of stress.

[@darkinproductions]

What makes the death of Daisuke worse… the ONLY medication was used in the cocktail. The mouthwash killed him as well as Jimmy’s insistence to the result of the vent.

[@ErinJeanette]

The scene of Swansea talking in the chair with the beautiful background and framing of him and Jimmy before he's shot is really stuck in my head. I love that we are gifted to have creative and passionate people in life who come together and create stories like this for us. So so grateful for human creativity.

[@ccchhheeennn2]

Bless curly’s soul :( I am very happy with that end of the game. They had amazing writing, and it’s only a demo if i remember correctly.

[@Dakuu75]

I saw someone playing this recently and I wasn't very interested in the gameplay but, the story seemed really captivating. So, thanks for this video explanation, really cool.

[@normanred9212]

The gameplay is First Person Point-n-Click adventure

[@jorienwachukwu466]

I feel sorry for everyone, excluding Jimmy. The guy was a total scumbag, but the rest of them didn't deserve what happened to them. Anya, Daisuke, Swansea, and especially Curly. They were all good people who just had the misfortune of serving an exploitative company and being stuck with a psycho like Jimmy. Anya is even more tragic with her pregnancy, as she killed not just herself, but also her unborn baby.

[@nalciel6577]

She was raped by Jimmy...

[@mitunacaptor9819]

Why dont you mention the SA on Anya? Legit weird how you completly skip a womens suffering whittling it down to him just not wanting the kid making it almost her fault.

[@Amatarias]

Probably cause demonetization.

[@GuiltyByProxy1793]

It might’ve just went over his head

[@TheStormbringer8751]

I think it's ironic that you try to admonish the narrator but refuse to say the word RAPE. 😂

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@TheStormbringer8751 But he did say it was consensual, that was the issue.

[@Dimpsmalimps]

And with the fact that when Anya tells Jimmy that their worst moments don't define us us, it has such an even more horrible underlying tone to it.

[@cutiewintersnowtorres2561]

Lesson: Take responsibility

[@tissuewater]

Or just not do any dumb shit in the first place

[@cheezbrgr]

why do men nevere pick up on anyas SA? its so obvious and it kinda annoys me how damn oblivious they are

[@DealWithTheJelly]

Ikr. I like this KZbinr but this video has to be his worst one because of the fact he made it seem like it wasn't s/a

[@CloverKyng]

@@DealWithTheJellyit’s a theory

[@DealWithTheJelly]

@@CloverKyng Not really. If you play then game then you can tell that it plays a big part of the story. its why everything happened in the first place

[@steckz9516]

@@DealWithTheJelly People are saying to pick up this fact on the "Doorlock" part but you can easily just interpret that as some anti-capitalist sentiment as well considering it's also about how the company wants to protect their stock pile of medicines from freely being utilized.

[@2007ghettonissanaltima]

Im pretty sure its possible that some men picked up on this. Also, it could be that some people arent that well informed on sa assaults.

[@helterskelter416]

i think swansea was trying to keep people out of the utility room to keep daisuke safe.

[@luciii.l4uuu-lm7pg]

Jimmy assulted Curly & Anya. There's no doubt.

[@awkward_tendencies]

Captain Curly survived because the fire inside him burned brighter than the Tulpar around him

[@gamersault]

You're goddamn right

[@bob4895]

I get the referrenge

[@yogaajie4265]

My favorite part about this game aside from the story is the full screen text effects just like neon genesis evangelion

[@ToastyToby-h6r]

I thunk u kinda got the ending wrong, he didnt actually take responsability, hes just telling himself he did in order to escape in peace by kllng himself. He avoided consequences til the end

[@renscorner3124]

What hurts even more is that by the end there are sections where Jimmy at least kinda comes to terms and takes responsibility for what he did to them. With Daisuke there was the multiple images of the flowers from his shirt and his grave. With Swansea there was the entire chase scene and his like monologue. And even with Curly he (kinda) apologizes by the end. But he doesn't have any of those segments with Anya. The closest it gets is with the weird womb with the horse but there's nothing directly about Anya. I think it's cuz he didn't actually feel any remorse about that. Like with the other crew members he felt at least enough remorse that it materialized in weird hallucinations that even contained the actual characters but not Anya,.

[@madrose26]

There is such a huge debate on whether Anya was SA’d or not that you can almost tell who would or wouldn’t believe an SA victim if they came forward. Yes it’s heavily implied, but you have to remember not every victim says it upfront as Anya and her fear of Jimmy flew over so many players and viewers heads that it’s concerning. There’s some that even defend Jimmy’s constant verbal abuse and disregards of Anya as “friendly”. Real victims hide but try to drop hints in hopes someone catches on and helps them, in this case Anya in Curly’s POV of the game. Real victims also show fear when around their assailant, which is Anya in Jimmy’s POV of the game. She took the gun to *protect* herself from Jimmy, she asked Curly about the sleeping quarters not having locks because she felt *unsafe*, once Jimmy is the self-proclaimed captain she shows constant signs of *fear* and feels *belittled* every time Jimmy jabs at her for no apparent reason yet she also hopes that there is a way for Jimmy to get better- a common sign of victims feeling guilty when the situation wasn’t even their fault. It’s scary how there are people who disregard all of that and dial it down to DV. Which is also bad, but people forget DV and SA can correlate together, one can lead to another, or they can both happen INCLUDING in a workspace like the Pony Express.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

Epic spaceship design, instead of foam that fixes a breached hull, it spills over into the ship so much it makes operating the ship impossible and even covers most ship controls. It doesn't make sense at all. Normally I'd say it's poor writing but when you look at what some budget vehicles are like irl, especially if not officially declared safe for use this is actually kinda realistic.

[@amugusq7567]

But it is kinda logical if you consider atmo pressure. If you do it from outside - the rushing air will rip it off (tested by planes irl, forces are far beyond what a human can hold btw). But from the inside - air will push on foam and create an even better seal - just like closing the drain in the bath. And obviously seal is the main priority, because it is no use walking inside if you are dead.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

@@amugusq7567 it's for space though and blocking controls is always worse AND it's done right in so very many other sci fi that are way more realistic than this

[@amugusq7567]

​@@ButWhyWasTaken It is obviously for space. Blocking control worse then what? A loss of atmosphere? You can remove the foam, but you cannot get un-dead. Besides it is the reason why irl plane doors open into the inside of plane - so that vessel atmo will keep them closed. And what are the examples where it is done right and relistic? Because i literaly cannot see the way how foam can be applied from the outside, automaticly and solve the problem at the same time. The only other solution i can think of is welding, but it has a ton of problems. Or just isolation of damaged sections - that is worse then foam lul.

[@amugusq7567]

​@@ButWhyWasTaken Btw i am really curious about the examples, no offence and sarcasm. Would be nice if you could share some.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

@@amugusq7567 e.g. The Expanse Also, the point is actually that the way it's done in this game is beyond absurd, as it mentioned makes sense if this is because it's a poorly maintained system since the company they work for doesn't give a damn about their employees' safety but it makes zero sense if it worked as intended. A huge amount of hull repair foam ends up inside the ship so the system used FAR too much of it, either by just keeping on shooting at the holes that by then were already closed, causing it to pile up inside, or by shooting the foam at partially into the wrong direction from the start. This huge amount of foam should never end up inside the ship, it makes no sense because it's not just sabotaging and dooming the ship it's also a total waste of money in the first place since this is clearly many times over the amount that was actually needed to fix the hull, causing it to pile up so much inside. And just using more foam for larger holes cannot cause this either because that would always require to doom the ship when fixing the hull by piling the foam up intentionally inside to create a huge amount that eventually covers a large hole. Rather, foam would be applied bit by bit so the first squirt dries enough for the next squirt to not just drop down but stick to the dried parts like a scaffold, creating the solid structure needed in the first place to fix the hull. Irl people don't just empty an entire can can of building foam to cover a large hole either but do it precisely like this, letting some dry to create the intended shape rather than a shapeless pile that's just in the way.

[@rakhmathadita3917]

curly suffering a lot...

[@LadyMajolish]

Another reason why use orange juice and toothpaste for mouthwash instead (trust me bro)

[@thefakecat8340]

Wha? Is that a reference?

[@LigmaBalls-ow4qd]

​​@@thefakecat8340 you're stupider than my friends

[@dfprod.]

@@thefakecat8340drinking orange juice after brushing your teeth tastes like shit

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@@thefakecat8340 they taste horrible together so it became a gag/prank to do it or tell others to do it

[@OfishialShrimp]

15:05 DUDE I WAS FLINCHING, CRINGING AND FREAKING OUT. THE MAN IS BASICALLY ON HIS DEATHBED 😔

[@UrLocalArtKid550]

😔 (Start chain here)

[@thegermanfool8953]

I thought the game was just about mouth washing but holy hell did the developers deliver with this! They should honestly make a sequel... or, games just like mouthwashing! It'll be awesome to have well put together stories like this.

[@ionutcristian9650]

Deducting payment for breaking or losing equipment is what my workplace does too, i even have a co-worker named Jimmy 🤣

[@JusttSarinaa]

Just played & beat this game and now I’m here. It was such a good game that I really needed to hear somebody else’s perspective on it. It’s like a one way conversation with a friend when you both watched the same show lmao. 😭🤣

[@FinalFlashhGaming]

I feel the “noises” Curly was making wasn’t just him being in pain, but also him being lucid from not being drugged up and trying to tell Anya that Jimmy had crashed the ship. I think he may have even been able to muster it too or even enough for Anya to subconsciously pick up on it but the only thing keeping her sane was to believe that Jimmy wasn’t a monster. Swansea and Anya could have also discussed to keep Daisuke out of the loop so that he could be cryo-freezed believing the whole thing was just an accident to lessen the psychological blow for him, and just let the “sad adults” carry the burden. This would also explain Swansea’s inaction towards Jimmy after finding out he was a predator who also crashed the ship. Being a family man himself, he surely would have taken action towards Jimmy at that point, but also considered that he could still save Daisuke and keep him innocent in turn saving him from becoming a bitter man like himself. Swansea, unlike Jimmy and Curly, had taken responsibility and had made it his mission to save someone who still had a chance of not becoming a sad adult. This would also explain why Swansea finally broke after Daisuke’s death and not immediately after Anya’s. With nothing to save now, he could finally unleash on Jimmy and avenge his friends. Even when Jimmy has him beaten, he attempts one last time to break through to him to at least break him out of his delusions of being able to “fix” something he should just take responsibility for. Swansea truly tried his best

[@sic_59]

So did Swansea actually preserve the one working cryopod? or did Jimmy hallucinate the broken cryopods but in reality they all worked? I could see Jimmy growing resentment toward Swansea bc he looked up to Daisuke instead of him and that led to Jimmy giving into his delusions and letting them become his reality. So in his mind Swansea was preserving it for Daisuke but in reality they were just keeping it away from him bc they all knew he was messed up? idk this is the only part i’m confused about, bc preserving the one working cryopod for Daisuke makes sense for Swansea’s character but then it shows after Swansea’s death that they’re all working and that there’d be no need to even preserve them.

[@joshuakim5240]

The final part is Jimmy's psyche broken to the point where he's unable to see the sealing foam anymore, despite it clearly and canonically still being everywhere since the vacuum of space isn't sucking him anywhere. Indeed, only one pod still worked and it's implied that Swansea was keeping that one working pod a secret to prevent infighting for whoever gets it, as he wanted Daisuke to be the one to have it if rescue didn't come in time. Swansea spending so much time in the utility room also seems to imply that he was trying to fix the other pods but the loss of tools meant that it was a futile endeavor so all he could do was hide the pod. Another interesting detail is that Swansea started to carry around the axe more aggressively only after talking with Anya, who seems to have told him about her pregnancy and Jimmy's fault in it so he carried it around to protect everyone from Jimmy. And he turned out to be 100% correct to do so, but unfortunately he alone wasn't enough to top Jimmy.

[@TalesOfXyklovica]

Now I can see why Mouthwashing has a fandom. Love the story!

[@alanacarolineleite7744]

He left out a lot of litle details and information that makes the story make more sence. Plus he didn't explain the most confusing part of the game.

[@ccchhheeennn2]

This video is amazing! You’re very talented at laying out complex storylines. Great job dude

[@beat09]

The true survivor for this game was supposed to be Daisuke because he was the youngest out of all of them and have a lot to life for

[@Nrvey]

I feel like the sequence where Jimmy runs from the monster, is him running away from his responsibilities once again, that being his unborn child Anya is also mentally abused by Jimmy, I can't really explain why but as we progress through the story. We constantly find Jimmy constantly yelling and belittling Anya. Blaming Anya for being incompetent. There's also a part where Anya asks Curly, "Why does the medical room have a lock but the sleeping quarters don't?" Or something similar. Either way, it's related to the sleeping quarters not having a lock. An image flashes after this, it has the word 'safety' repeated multiple times. This could imply that Anya was assaulted.

[@Samnold1]

Curly is the GOAT

[@thegermanfool8953]

Hopefully he gets found out there and Jimmy's crimes are brought to light.

[@revolt_4588]

​@@thegermanfool8953 ye except hes the captain and no one else is alive so what if ppl see curly as the villain still

[@thegermanfool8953]

@@revolt_4588 the only saving grace would be the fact that curly is 100% limbless. Meaning, if he's ever found; they may also find Jimmy's corpse and his fingerprints on the gun, and the bullet hole inside of that maintenance worker (can't remember his name but I think it was Swansea), meaning they may be able to put two and two together. Anya overdosed so they may come up with that conclusion, and the axe used to kill the youngster has the other guy's fingerprints on it. We can only hope poor curly is rescued or put to rest for his own sake.

[@Outrack]

32:18 Jimmy did the worst thing possible for Curly by putting him in cryo - without his skin the cold will destroy the exposed nerves and make healing nigh impossible. Many severed fingers have been lost due to people correctly putting them on ice, but not putting a layer between them to prevent direct contact. If Curly survives, he'll wish he hadn't.

[@Just_a_teddy_bear]

Reading the title would make you think that the game is a cautionary tale about the dangers of not washing your mouth.

[@simonkifle-no7sr]

how tf is curly even still alive after all this

[@Nice_kid_11]

Bro when you give the pills to curly, it literally sounds like “JUST TAKE THE.. FLIPIN PILLS!”

[@strawberrytown]

bro just casually has one of the most majestic and relaxing voices on youtube

[@maxiargos1971]

Holy shit! It just hit me! Anya looks so much like Shelley Duvall from the shining!

[@randomguy-kq4qy]

jacksepticeye said the same thing lmao

[@maxiargos1971]

@@randomguy-kq4qy i had no idea Jack said that. i have not watched that man in years.

[@xianroso]

Shes actually inspired by her I think :)

[@maxiargos1971]

@@xianroso if so the fanart I am seeing of artist drawing Anya as Shelley is also cute.

[@ErinJeanette]

Also I take Anya not being able to "do her job" are because she's nauseous from pregnancy, perhaps the noises of what's happening pertaining to what happened to her, not wanting to hurt curly, and knowing Jimmy did this and being terrified. She might be hoarding medicine too and giving curly medicine more than we think as it's an absolute miracle he's not dead from infection so there's no way she's not able to medicate curly or do her job since he's alive longer than anyone. She just wants to rush out and away but I can only think she lets Jimmy medicate him because it makes him feel like he's "fixing" something which he obsessed about.

[@Arsonistic_B]

I came here just so I could understand what my friend was yapping about. Love my pookie ❤

[@cowbell420]

....Jimmy is an idiot.. But honestly, Anya should've stolen the pod from the get go, since supposedly it was working, one was.

[@cosmicdragon9237]

Anya didn't know tho

[@njabulompembe442]

Yep​@@cosmicdragon9237

[@trashy-can6811]

That would be actually a horrible Idea, if she did use it from the get go, the pod could have been destroyed by insane Jimmy if he ever founds out she used it. The factor of Anya being assaulted by him and is now the “captain” adds additionally submission and fear because now others would choose his commands over her shy and timid nature.