Move Over Surface Pro 7? ThinkPad X12 Detachable Review

[@andrewmarcdavid]

***CORRECTION*** 3:2 aspect ratio, not 16:10.

[@KJ1N]

Screen wise is there a big diff between 16:10 vs 3:2 ? Since you managed to get the aspect ratio wrong in the first place? I’m still stuck between getting a device of either ratio

[@andrewmarcdavid]

@@KJ1N not a big difference

[@Felix93C]

What is the best or budget choice Detachable laptop. Need some advise. I prefer to buy used unit.

[@shahd9584]

@@KJ1N I've used both and they each have their benefits - depending on what you do. 16:10 is best if your primary use of a laptop is for streaming, entertainment, video editing etc. because it's the closest to the 16:9 that is most commonly used. With a 16:10 aspect ratio, you won't be getting black bars at the top and bottom (if that annoys you). 3:2 is amazing for productivity in my opinion. If your primary use is for writing documents, researching, multitasking browsing internet, then you'll have the benefit of increased vertical space which means there are more lines shown on the screen at once. I personally do both uses in equal amounts and I'm not bothered by the black bars of a 3:2 aspect ratio. When watching a movie/TV show I don't notice the bars but I definitely notice the increased screen real estate when I do my uni work or browse the web. Hope that insight helps!

[@KJ1N]

Should have another correction. It’s a Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201. Not Killer

[@TragoudistrosMPH]

Excellent review! I had the ancient Lenovo Thinkpad 2 and I loved it. It weighed nothing, had a USB port, and the pen slid inside the device. It had little processing power, but it was so convenient. I'd love an upgraded version of that.

[@PeteOliva]

I love how no-nonsense your reviews are. You cut to the chase. Sometimes these reviews get so bloated but you narrow it down to the most important aspects of the product. Great job. 👍🏼

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Glad you like them!

[@phantomfinest5996]

Thank you for being one of the few youtube channels that skips the bs and gives a genuine review. This was very very helpful!

[@alvisabit8452]

Sometime I feel love with how thinkpad make that sense.

[@Aeonikst8]

Excellent high quality video. Great work. I’ve been waiting for this review to drop since you had it in your live session.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks really appreciate it 👊

[@marcelmenaro2314]

Hi Andrew.. great review as always. I am really loving this tablet but I'm waiting for the ryzen 6000/ intel alder lake update.. do you have any idea when lenovo will release them for the x12?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

You and me both! No information as of yet. Also, thank you for the Super Thanks! Really appreciate it!

[@primorock8141]

We need a video with the cleaned up setup!!

[@DKBoerner]

This is the best-dressed KZbinr of the month! My compliments! The tie fits the beard, the beard fits the dress handkerchief, the blazer fits the hair and the shirt is the perfect contrast. Well done, buddy!

[@williamstevenson2649]

Very useful review of a potentially very useful device, if it's released in the UK.

[@jamesburgoon1950]

Nice to see wacom tech being used. For artists, illustrators that makes it worthy of consideration.

[@slighter]

I like that you wear a suit when reviewing this. That really give the review some style and swag ;)

[@commentarytalk1446]

Very useful review. These 2:1 detachables are getting better all the time. I will wait to see if there is a mega sale near the end of the year which puts the price in range so it's worth buying for 2yrs before the next iteration of this form factor takes off.

[@mrmartywaring]

This is dope!!! I love that Thinkpad keyboard

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Agreed 👍

[@estebanguerrero682]

Thanks for the ThinkPad Review! Loved this options from Lenovo!

[@williamcohen3351]

Good PC. Great for people on the road. Camera and microphone are typical for most PC's now a days. Great review.

[@Felix93C]

Omg, just watched the x1 3th gen. Now already updated.

[@bryanlee8196]

Looks like it's a 3:2 aspect ratio and not a 16:10. Perhaps a minor mistake there.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

It's 16:10

[@bryanlee8196]

@@andrewmarcdavid But 1920 x 1280 is a 3:2 resolution. Other reviews have also pointed that out. 1920 x 1200 is a 16:10

[@andrewmarcdavid]

@@bryanlee8196 correct my typo

[@edbenzino]

Need a storage organizer unit for all the tech you review...that you can display. I always wondered what your studio looks like with all the tech you review... and i feel satisfied as well as have more respect to you and your channel

[@aryehyehudahajzenberg9503]

1 - Excellent video as usual ! 2 - I liked your messy studio ! 3 - I liked the jacket and tie visual. Stick to it ! 4 - Lenovo is amazing but this camera was strange David.... You looked pale (as if you were sick - God forbid !) Now the sound was great ! 5 - I liked your review on the keyboard. I really enjoy it ! Thanks ! 6 - 11h of battery ?!?! That's crazy ! 7 - Lenovo.... As I always tell you David.... The Playmate of the computer world !

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks Bro 😁

[@KarlDahlquist]

Watched the video twice, click-thru'd two ads and hit the like button! Thanks for another video! That is a sweet looking computer.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks 👍

[@EnglishDanReviews]

This looks pretty nice. Looking forward to your revisit of the Pro X though. Im tempted by one of those

[@andrewmarcdavid]

I agree Dan it's been great so far.

[@michaelbyrd4004]

@Andrew Marc David - The resolution on these small devices doesn't have to be super high. Readability and functionality are more important. If I have to get really close to a device in order to use it, that diminishes the experience. Part of the reason I don't want the Surface Pro is because of the high resolution. It's simply not necessary. But, we are all different.

[@kiitanoginni3631]

i love your vids soo much there soo helpfull i am such a big fan of your videos and the conntent

[@michaelbyrd4004]

@Andrew Marc David - I appreciate the video of your studio. Life can be messy, but ya still gotta get the job done!

[@Digital_Immortality]

thanks marc for video!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

More to come!

[@johanliebenberg6170]

Hi Andrew. Have you heard of any issues with the touch screen? My screen is not responding to touch anymore. So now it's just a screen, not a touch screen.

[@drtiagofernandez]

ANDREW!! A doubt! Doesn't this model end up competing with the Yoga duet 7i? wouldn't the 7i be a better option for having a better screen? thankful.

[@PMC1911]

Love the review.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks really appreciate it 👊

[@jpmcnown1]

Also Thunderbolt 4, missing on the Surface.

[@gopinathramanujacharya8566]

Great review as usual.

[@_Digitalguy]

Great video! It's a pity they went back to 12.3 after going 13in. How does the keyboard compare to the X1 nano, is it the same (same feel, same travel)?

[@slighter]

Battery life is so good that it had to come up twice in the end ;)

[@edgar9651]

Thanks for the review. How hot does it get? The Surface Pro 7+ gets very hot and I like to know if the ThinkPad is a good alternative in that way. I live in the tropics. 30 degree Celsius is a cold day. And often high humidity. Thanks.

[@RogerMcIntosh]

No mention of one critical feature: is the drive user replaceable?

[@davinhunt7558]

its nvme so I'm assuming so but yea no reviews have mentioned this specifically a yes or no I think they just assume its common knowledge

[@jasonassaf2482]

Great review, I personally would prefer this over a surface as I hate the surface pro type cover. I have a thinkpad for work and personal use and are great laptops

[@tonyb408]

There is a video review of this put out by Lenovo where the pen does stick to the right side of the screen. Is there an optional pen that does that?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Could be the upgraded tilt pen

[@Aeonikst8]

I’ve only seen it stick to the titanium yoga. What video is the one you saw? I would like to check it out.

[@Avarent01]

I just feel like there is no reason to upgrade from my Gen 3 X1 Tablet. The CPU is basically as fast, the Display is WAY better and bigger. This is just an overall cut down version of the old one, yet it still has the premium price tag.

[@NOTORIOUS404]

That's over simplifying a little too much, isn't it? First of all, it's over 50% heavier (keyboard included). Might not mean much to you but I guess that's why you bought the X1. Price isn't equivalent even though you make it sound that way. Battery life might be different because you have a standalone video card and if you have touchscreen I doubt it's far from being same price. This is a detachable, a Surface competitor not a ultrabook competitor. I have a very technical and physically active job so a tablet is best in my case but I'd hate to buy a tablet AND a laptop. Apples to apples comparison, I think this is the best detachable for 2021 for now.

[@henryharmon5935]

Did this replace the Xone? Are you going to review the Fold?

[@papagen00]

2:18 typo? should be 1920x1080 not 1280

[@andrewmarcdavid]

It's 1920 x 1280

[@Theking196]

Can this opened up easily ? The biggest problem with my surface pro is that my battery only holds 3 hours charge now and I cant replace it.

[@Theking196]

@@msp5138 i have a surface pro 4 and 6, the 4 is practically unusable on the go because it only gets like an hour on battery life and the 6 gets about 3 now, used to get near 5 brand new. They both work great, no performance issues whatsoever but I can’t replace the battery. Didn’t want to upgrade to a 7 because of the issue. Other than that I love the device.

[@mahyarsh87]

Man that is sooooo coooool!

[@tech_realm]

Wish these type of 2 in 1 detachable had thinner bezels. Would have been nice to see AMD as well. Interesting how it has a 1440p camera, but quality isn't as good as the Surface devices I don't think. Definitely not too bad though!

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Thick bezels on laptops are a joke in 2021.

[@jigsawfit]

Thanks for the good video. I don't think it's an lte option model, that model have an lte antenna?

[@leone-mobilegame1754]

I really didnt know that Lenovo made a laptop to challenge the Surface pro. Thanks for the amazing review!

[@tomgegan3096]

LTE is nice. Wish it had less bezel. Do they do 13.5 or large display?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Not on this model

[@peterpangreen1]

Great show!

[@papagen00]

Is the SSD soldered-on?

[@mikecleveland7453]

Can you use this as a laptop? As in, use it on your lap, pick it up by its keyboard and carry it around, etc.?

[@adamhsalk]

@Andrew how does the X12 differ from the X1 gen 3 tablet?

[@carmennooner2027]

I haven't tuned in for quite some time because I'm not a Windows or Mac user. When you showed all of the items on your studio floor though, I started to wonder what your daily driver is. Do you have an absolute favorite? And why? :)

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Hi Carmen, hope you have been well!! I really don't have a daily driver so to speak since I am constantly testing laptops continually and so I really don't get a chance to settle on one. That being said, I do edit all my videos on a 2019 MacBook Pro 16 because I like to use Final Cut Pro. That would be the closest to a daily driver. Thanks for watching!

[@nononsense129]

Nice review. What about removing SSD is it possible without expert's help?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

No. At least I am not aware of a way

[@hadeeldenkha5709]

Dear Andrew, thanks for your review it is really helpful. Do you recommend this laptop over all the over detachable labtops in the market today? Please, let me know soon because I want to buy one. Or do you suggest to wait a bit for the better one to released by microsoft or lenovo itself?

[@er-ryhanymed9519]

we want THINKPAD X1 GEN 9 review please

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Expect it soon.

[@louisting591]

@@andrewmarcdavid x1 yoga gen 6 too please

[@tamascsirik9509]

Nice review, thx. I'm tempted. I have an ipad pro 10,5 lte currently, which I use as hotspot as well. Can you use a 4g win10 tablet as a hotspot?

[@MrReedmonkey]

Thanks for the review. I have the gen 1 pro x and surface pro's up to gen 6. I would have liked to have seen a battery comparison to the pro 7 plus, which has the same tiger lake processor and 50whr vs the x12's 42 whr. Does the 1080p panel make that much difference to battery life? I can tell you that the pro x looks the business but those thin bezels and power button placement make using it as a tablet in portrait mode a pain. I have decided on the pro 7 plus because of the better screen, bigger battery and usbA. If they had included the pen silo like the x1 yoga I would have been tempted....

[@quantumphysics1272]

Thanks. What is the difference between Lenovo yoga duet 7 and Lenovo Thinkpad x12?

[@derrickalba9243]

The Lenovo X12 appears to be a very compelling alternative to even the refreshed Surface Pro 7+, especially with the thunderbolt port and the trackpoint. Personally, I'd love Lenovo to make a chromebook OS version of this 2-in-1 with this hardware, since a Surface Chromebook is highly unlikely. Though the upcoming Windows 11 with may somewhat fill in the gap for tablet apps with Windows touchsreens by tapping the Amazon Appstore ecosystem, which is basically Android OS apps that are "converted" for the Amazon Fire Tablet/TV Ecosystem.

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

Please do review on X1 yoga titanium

[@moneymoney8716]

Hi Andrew, I don't know what I should buy: the X1 gen 3 (only used avilable) or the new x12 detachable. Make the better display resolution on the x1 a big difference to the x12?

[@mw7967]

Love the form factor, but for the price, I can't justify it over a traditional Lenovo laptop or similarly priced MacBook.

[@mushtigaming]

I am 9 years old and i am going to get the laptop Wery nice Cool review Best laptop

[@tomthomsen990]

I need to use a mouse. Without the standard USB port, is there a way to do?

[@justin-hurd]

would the thinkpad keyboard match the same connector pins as the surface? they look compatible from the video

[@satvikchopda5166]

Can you please tell the actual price of the product as it shows much higher on the official website.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

It fluctuates with Lenovo as they run sales on and off so you need to keep checking the their website

[@rccmathstats9743]

1920x1280 is not 16:10 ratio.... it is a 3:2. In my opinion 3:2 is better since I like more screen vertically.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Yes I put a correction in the description

[@frankief7111]

Nice. No micro SD? how can you expand disk space?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Need adapter

[@ThePauluu]

Please does this X12 detachable allow the installation of primavera P6.

[@meerville]

If you have the answer let me know

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

You're looking great.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks really appreciate it 🙏

[@shani1340]

Can the x12 keyboard be used on the Surface Pro ?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

No

[@abepresume8132]

First time viewer. How in the world did you get a surface pro X for $600???? Thanks in advance!!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Stay tuned...

[@johantingstedt9270]

Does the Surface Type Cover keyboard fit the X12 Detachable? The magnets look similar

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Surface type cover doesn't work on the X12 Detachable/

[@ahyi9350]

can it support a few VMs running simultaneously using VMware workstation pro??

[@bordomavi610]

Only thing i dislike is the art of carrying the pen

[@jekyll999]

How does it compare to the IPAD pro?

[@Sharky165]

It really depends on your workflow/use case, IMO. In terms of overall productivity & versatility, this Lenovo blows the iPad Pro away since it's running full Win 10, vs iPad OS. Multitasking on an iPad is limited to only two windows (split-screen), whereas Windows can ofc handle many. And iPads _still_ have their Webcams in the "wrong" place for landscape Zoom or FaceTime video calls/video-conferencing -- and in Zoom the other participants can't see you if, Heaven forbid, you try to multitask while on the call. 🤦🏼‍♂️😩🤣 In tablet mode, the iPad is ofc much better than any Win convertible/detachable laptop, its quad speakers are better, and the upcoming 2021 iPad Pro is rumored to have a mini-LED display, an M1 chip, and a Thunderbolt port. My biggest issue with iPad Pros is the value proposition given the software limitations. The price for the 12.9" version of the 2021 Pro may start over $1K, and that won't include the Pencil or a physical keyboard. At that exorbitant cost, it makes no sense vs this Lenovo, esp if you plan on using it for productivity. You'd be much better off with an M1 MacBook Air, if you can live w/o a touch display, and with MacOS rather than Windows.

[@jekyll999]

@@Sharky165 thanks for that very thorough response!

I wish we had some of those devices in Brazil

[@jeremyrangel8138]

Dang. Only having one USB port guarantees many of us would have to commit to the dongle life.

[@abmr999]

In fact, I was surprised by Lenovo making a primitive screen for this device. Its screen is not as great and clear as the Surface Pro 7 screen. If you want to compete, make a great screen first

[@SteveRunciman]

I want this but with an ARM chip not by Qualcomm

[@Sharky165]

You may be waiting for a long time for that if you're talking about a Windows laptop. As you may already know, the MS Surface Pro X uses a Qualcomm co-designed SQ2 processor, which has reasonable power, but the big trade-offs are that some x86/64-bit programs/apps don't work on it, and that MS didn't optimize it enough for great battery life on Win 10. As a result, I don't think they're selling as well as MS had hoped. Samsung is partnering with AMD to come up with a killer Exynos ARM SoC, but it's not yet ready, and even when it is, it remains to be seen if they'll design a Windows laptop around it. My guess is that it will appear in a Galaxy Chromebook and likely their Galaxy S series phones and tablets first & foremost. Your best bet right now, by far, for an ARM-based laptop is an M1 MacBook.

[@SteveRunciman]

@@Sharky165 thanks for the input. the M1s look nice. Interested to see what the second iteration will be like.

[@eopedrozaable]

Is the surface pen compatible with this thinkpad

[@andrewmarcdavid]

No

[@obi1jim316]

hey i have a weird question, does the keyboard of the thinkpad x12 work with the surface pro 4 or above?

[@kaijchen5894]

It's is good, but making me want to purchase a X1 Tablet instead.... screen is so not Thinkpad X1

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Triple A battery?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

AAAA battery 🔋

[@larryps]

Well done

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks 👍

[@antoniusprasitius1908]

Well that room still better than mine

[@danielngo2697]

Is it serviceable, meaning easy to open and get fixed? Most Surface Pros are glued so not easy to open Also you missed to compare it with Thinkpad X1 Tablet Gen 3. Are they similar form factor?

[@spencerschmidt75]

It's the same with the surface pro. It's glued so you have to remove the screen before you can replace the battery, etc.

[@acidicali7776]

So it’s just objectively better than the surface pro 7? I was pretty told on the surface pro 7 before watching this

[@presenceofeden2949]

This os way better. It has thunderbolt 3 that alone makes a better choice. And thinkpad are build to last.

[@yeti433]

Microsoft or apple should learn from lenovo and include keyboard and pencil ( Surface pro also need a intel iris Xe graphic)

[@Tigerex966]

You are messy like me😉 Keeping it real.

[@NSAwatchesME]

problem with these tablet pcs is they always have garbage display they need perfect oled display and everything else doesnt matter then it would be perfect for showing people photos from camera and watching videos

[@michh2836]

Lenovo 👍😍👍😍🤗💥🔥🔥

[@jasonassaf2482]

Does it comes with any adapters?

[@AugustusMcMillan]

configured the i5 256gb Surface Pro 7 with keyboard and pen. $100 less than the Lenovo. the Lenovo isn't a better value.

[@jackofnowhere]

Love the product... But that cpu is a deal breaker... Would much rather have AMD than a low-powered intel cpu

[@whatsbestnow]

Pity it doesn't have 5g

[@thetalldutchman]

It starts now at 1900 dollars

[@papagen00]

That's a hefty discount from $1979 to $1187 for a new product. I bet it costs them $150 to make in China.

[@OpGrief]

ThinkPad > surface

[@papagen00]

Having bought and returned the X12, I can say that Surface Pro 8 keyboard/glass trackpad is better. The X12 trackpad is rough plastic and the keys are way too firm. Chinese Lenovo keyboard of today just isn't the same as IBM ThinkPad keyboard of yore. President Biden please bring manufacturing back to America.

[@kiitanoginni3631]

hi