Moveset analysis of the Centurion from For Honor

[@nein_nein_]

U see cent more as A Gladiator then an actual roman solider the way he's shown in For Honor. Great Video tho :)

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

You're absolutely right. Considering how the fighting system in For Honor works though, comparing the moves to a formation based combat style makes little to no sense. Glad you enjoyed the video

[@hdmicord8200]

It’s just that roman brutality that’s all lol

[@Mr.Spade1]

Yeah he has that legendary gladiator air about him

[@demo511.]

12:23 "Uncomfortably Flashy" sums up the entirety of Centurion's personality and moveset quite nicely lol, great analysis and recreations.

[@oinkytheink1228]

Gladiators want to grab the audience’s attention which is probably the reasons

[@Beanpolr]

​@@oinkytheink1228Well yeah, but Centurion is not a gladiator.

[@oinkytheink1228]

@@Beanpolr yeah you right they are professional soldiers

[@AedanTheGrey]

​@@Beanpolrbut was designed with gladiators, and the eponymous movie, in mind

[@bayross3562]

you randomly appeared in feed, happy to have watch it all. As a rep 70 centurion, you're surely incredibilis.

[@Naruhiu]

U finna grind to rep 80?

[@bayross3562]

@@Naruhiu SEND HELP (YES BUT PAIN)

[@leoraidiant_yt2267]

Rizzler

[@EmperorNightfall]

Dont mind me, just commenting so the algorhythm blesses this video

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

For the glory of Rome!

[@johnnycrouton4736]

we need more blessed commenters like u 👍

[@pipogutierrezgarcia5996]

It should be noted that the jabs change if you do them after a light or heavy attack. After a light they are punches but after a heavy the centurion reverses his grip and hits the opponent with the but of his weapon, 8ts just an animation difference but I think it is a nice detail. Edit:I just went and tested it in-game and the animation only happens after your 2nd heavy which is the one centurion changes into reverse grip, your 1st heavy does not change from the regular jab which makes sense from an animation standpoint.

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

We didn't notice that. Thanks for mentioning, we'll try to inspect the animations more thoroughly next time

[@jakub8252]

Wow, just wow! Such an indepth analysis with even greater reenactement of all the movement, just blew me away! Great work guys :D

[@guyperson7487]

His stances look like they were designed to have a shield in his off hand

[@BruteSix]

heard they dropped it in fear of being looking awfully to similar to warlord (makes kinda sense since his viking swords are derived from gladius)

[@werewolfking2646]

My headcannon is that Centurion HAD a shield, but he lost it a long time ago and decided it's "fistin" time

[@bruhhhhmoment4848]

@@werewolfking2646my head cannon is that centurion is so old his shield decomposed so he just fists the opponents now

[@junkyporpoise4254]

Awesome stuff, I would love to see you analyse more of these For Honor characters in future!

[@tsukver_flower]

Up!

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

My headcanon for for honor unrealistic stuff is that all the heros are just too strong, fast and expirienced that they just do those silly stuff xd

[@anitoancognita7060]

I was just pondering about Roman Empire and then stumbled upon this video. Thank you😔🙏

[@botcho2276]

Cent is me when i imagine how I'd fight with a knife

[@nafereuskortex9055]

Roman is disappointed to see his moves and weapons are mostly inaffective.

[@solarsoldier2456]

A fellow Knight of The Cheddar Order. Hail to thee my friend.

[@xClownpiece]

his throws look badass irl! good vid

[@randobandobby6443]

Love how this video understands that at the end of the day its still just a video game and Cent still looks like he can fight a lion and knock it out. Like yeah some of his moves are borderline not useful but any man that gets hit by a Cent's charge jab are going down like a sack of potatoes. There was an interesting theory that Cent use to run around with a shield, if you look at his stance and match that with a shield placement it looks almost right. Also that skit of you getting hit and then looking at your hands and deciding to run the ones is funny, but I have a feeling that its exactly how Cent came to be. Your home is destroyed, your people are scattered into the winds, and your the last remaining vestiges of a great kingdom... so fuck it, if your going down, you'll show them why your people's guardians were fearless, fuck the shield, you don't have anything to protect anymore, you would use your sword to cut down your would be enemies and your fist to grind them to dust. If you really are one of the last of the Romans, then show them Roman steel, show them each step, punch, slash and kick you do comes from a man that strikes like an eagle and has a heart of an empire. Show them a CENTURIAN'S pride and scream out to the cruelty of the world, INCREDIBILIS, ET TIAM! ...so yeah, that's my head-canon lol.

[@xShurax]

Wish more people would do this kinda stuff with different heroes as well

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

Who would you like to see? We can do the gladiator!

[@Quot111]

​@@ContuberniumSPQR Any other hero would be amazing! This video is really cool

[@xShurax]

@@ContuberniumSPQR Gladiator would be really cool to see as well!

[@gilgameszh]

​@@ContuberniumSPQRplease

[@awoo21]

In For Honor if you think that someone isnt going to feint when theyre charging an attack like centurion, then the correct move IS to just hit them out of it. The fact that you can just slap someone out of a cool move is apart of the game design

[@saechabashira8380]

Absolutely AMAZING! Amazing job from both warriors! And it shows some of Centurion's moves DO work fairly well IRL too! So glad I found you guys, subbed and liked!

[@tiodosalgado5860]

Absolutely INCREDIBILIS

[@kevinnorwood8782]

Based on some of Centurion's idle animations and the way he's holding his left arm during those animations, some players have come to the conclusion that Centurion originally WAS going to be armed with a Scutum, but they decided to remove the shield at the last minute. In these idle stances, he's holding his left arm the exact way you would if you were holding a Scutum.

[@Hk-ox4bb]

I love Cent’s gameplay but I’ll never get over the fact that he is a gladiator (including the fact he uses a gladius, the weapon gladiators are named after) moreso than the “gladiator” who should have had a net instead and be called a netarius

[@CultofDeorum]

Yea but the Gladius was the Weapon the Legionairs used

[@AtomikRakoon]

Bro literally said ✊INCREDIBILIS

[@sirtastytoast2265]

Well, it does check out because the best way to screw up a cent is by lighting him during the charge attacks.

[@crafty_badger]

Well, centurion (and other heroes) is ~2m tall extremely strong dude. Us mortals are not that I N C R E D I B I L I S.

[@tttrrriiippp]

Good Fight! Wow! Thanks!

[@maxvitor7023]

Bloody beautiful work. There's also some interesting details like how he will use jabs and uppercuts on light attacks but bash the enemy with the butt of the sword on heavies.

[@phengooogaming]

Any Romans best friend is the Wall. Wall splats are CRAZY. Especially in duels, comp duels where the arena is even smaller wall splats go even harder.

[@LostxArmy]

This video made me giddy inside.

[@aungminthant111]

Finally For Honor live action

[@McBooma16]

This was really interesting. Obviously in a fictional universe things are bound to be a little stretched, but this was a great analysis.

[@JeeheeDelta]

Thank the algorithm for showing me this

[@strikeforce1500]

Are you going try gladiators next?. Edit to add: No spinning the sword when entering lock-on? 0/10 lack of drip /s

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

Perhaps :D

[@HallowedSol]

Good video I hope it reaches out to more people keep up the good work

[@Cat45446]

ABSOLUTE CINEMA PERFECT

[@Just-A-Bit]

For the heavy charges, he could shuffle forward (or lunge slightly)

[@NoForksGiven]

Great video but a few things I wanted to explain. IRL the moves wouldn't work that's true, but they do work in game for a number of reasons: 1. Cent is a very arrogant fighter. He does shout "I AM INCREDIBLE" and "I AM UNCONTROLLABLE" when charging attacks. He doesn't use a shield because he thinks he doesn't need one 2. Speaking of charging, the game will magnetize you to enemies if they fail to dodge your attack properly. In some cases, this can cause Cent to spin almost 180 degrees if one of the more agile heroes dodges behind him. This is done on purpose. If you thought he was going to throw an uncharged punch, he has the option to fully charge it and track your movement. 3. Funnily enough, punching and charging attacks don't work irl for the same reason. The enemy can hit you while you're winding up. Howeber, as this is a video game, there's a limit on how fast the enemy can attack. If they block or get hit by an attack, their character will stagger back for so long, it's is impossible for them to hit you first. This is called "frame advantage" and is also an intended game mechanic. The only way to get out of this loop is to successfully block, dodge or parry Cent. 4. Eagle's Fury is just as reckless in game as well. You can't feint it, meaning it really is like giving your enemy a free opening if they dodge or parry it. However, it's not meant to be used blindly. It's meant to chase a fleeing opponent. Due to the stiff movements in game, by the time you unlock and start running after an enemy, they'll be too far away to catch. However if you use Eagle's Fury, you'll jump so far you'll hit them. 5. The kick is just a reference to the movie 300. Cent gets a lot of movie references actually. The man is a show off, what can we say. In fact, he gets more references to gladiator films than the actual gladiator class. The gladiator class is more historically accurate though. 6. While true, if Cent guardbreaks the correct thing to do irl would be to stab the enemy but that's not how guardbreaks work in game. You don't get to keep attacking just because you successfully landed it. It only gives you one attack, or several unique attacks if you're a certain hero. The peacekeeper gets 3 quick stabs. As such, Cent 3 head bonks is how capitalise on the very small window you get to damage the enemy. In the 4v4 modes, he can unlock the ability to let his punches, kicks and head bonks do damage. With this ability, it's more effective to do the bonks than get the 1 free stab. Same for his parry into knee strike. It also does damage with this ability, meaning you should always knee strike into light attack after a heavy parry. It's important to remember that these design decisions were made strictly to work in game with its own rules. It can be fun to analyze if they'd work in a real fight but don't forget it's a video game first, historical recreation second

[@EpicMerlin]

I absolutely adore this type of video

[@Dino_jacksurvivalboss]

One thing id like to add is most of his charged up hits are meant to be used after hitting the opponent

[@najuhate]

This video so INCREDIBILIS good!

[@ivanking1187]

mind you that cent is a strong heavy dude that is holding a 10bl blade+hilt. He uses alot of his body movement to provide the most force behind the blade. Almost like he is thrusting and using hips hip motion

[@ds1enjoyer403]

I would like to point out few things regarding guardbreaks. Just like all character centurion gets a free heavy on guardbreak. The three jabs to the head you can do on guardbreak arent always mandatory you can just do one or two and throw them against the wall, so cent actually has variety of options from guardbreak. Other than that everything was pretty much accurate and you earned a sub.

[@ThatAnnoyingBird]

May I say this video is truly... *INCREDIBILIS!*

[@neilz.]

Hey bro, this video is Incredibilis!

[@forged1nfire]

Pirate be like: This…..is my BOOMSTICK!!

[@altaysancak5038]

Master Oogway downfall video when

[@VharkusformerlyVeganShark]

i love this so much

[@Kruppuchino]

While Cent with a shield would be amazing, i get that he didn't get one to prevent him from becoming another Conqueror. Kinda similar to how they gave Hitokiri a double header axe to give him more originality. Overall an Incredibilis video though.

[@zackariahtravois7125]

For eagles fury, remove the jump and use the forward dash as momentum to do the attack, that would make it more realistic, you could also use that forward momentum to do a kick instead if u wanted

[@adrianstachowski9422]

Fantastic video!

[@mkb2195]

Great job! do the centurion's executions on the next one.

[@Mr_Edwards_1995]

The character was released as a hybrid because in season 1 the only dlc characters were assassins and hybrid. He should have came out as a heavy with the shield. The mechanics would have fit better.

[@songokucarot1668]

Commenting so that the algorithm see this video

[@Blackstonelegion]

Funny enough I could see Centurion beating Gladiator in a Realistic fight. Sure the single Gladius is problematic but at least the Gladius is designed to be lethal. The same cant really be said about the Trident. The Trident wasnt really made with warfare in mind. Sure Gladiator has the range advantage over Centurion. However if Gladiator wanted to get a kill. He would have to be extremely precise with that Trident. Not to mention the possibility of that Trident getting stuck due to the prongs.

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

The historical account actually supports what you wrote. Retiarius gladiator class that fought with a trident was so OP, that a new special Murmillo class had to be developed to counter him. Murmillo was based on the roman legionary , weilding a short gladius, a big shield and a special helmet, that would not be affected by Retiarius' net. The trident though is a great weapon. Not used in war so much, but leathal as hell!

[@Blackstonelegion]

Like I said you'd have to be vary precise with the Trident if you wanted it to be lethal. Plunging the Trident into someone's throat for example will definitely secure the kill. But bare in mind that the Trident was more of a fishing tool than an actual weapon. Not to mention that it was actually vary rare for Gladiators to fight each other to the death. That's not to say that Fights to the death never happened. But majority of Gladiators were slaves and if your Gladiators die they would be vary expensive to replace. Part of the reason why the Trident is a perfect weapon for the Arena. Its flashy enough to keep the Audiences attention while not being particularly lethal unless you manage to hit Vital organs with it. Also the Secutor is the Gladiator who is often paired up against the Retiarius. The Secutor would often wear scaled armor and wield a sword and shield and the fight between a Retiarius and a Secutor is ment to represent the battle between a Fisherman and the fish. With the Retiarius being the Fisherman and the Secutor being the fish. Hence the Secutor wearing scaled armor.

[@aesir748]

The problem with melee combat in videogames like for honor is that leaving yourself open and telegraphing your attacks are the worst things to do in a fight but they are necessary for balancing combat as if every move was accurate it would be impossible to read the animation to counter so moves need to be much more theatrical to provide proper counter play and also to just be cool

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

Very well said

[@themeargamer9073]

INCRIDIBILIS!!

[@ModernReapers]

Of course at the start you get lightspammed by an Orochi 😂, the For Honor experience in a nutshell

[@Professor_POVFH]

7:38 You know funnily enough thats exactly what happens if you try and use cents fully charged chain heavy as a mixup. You get interrupted. its such a bad move just use your bash. On light hitstun in a cent v cent match up you can do a neutral heavy as the opponent is charging and it won't clang you'll just get it.

[@cIoudbank]

his left gauntlet is supposed to work as a buckler

[@ModernReapers]

Amazing video! [algorithm booster]

[@SirCuddie]

This was cool, thank you.

[@AetharWolf]

Honestly a really nice overview of his moves showing how they wouldn't really work in a actual fight but also realizing its a game and its just supposed to be flashy. I will say though, the argument of getting stabbed while you're charging a move isn't something the game forgets, you will get stabbed while doing them if you never feint. You pretend to be super telegraphed and fake them out to bait a counter attack.

[@Rainman1_2]

Well done my friend

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

You can beat an enemy with a shorter range weapon. It won't happen by just rehearsing it. It would requier conviction, drive and no hesitation. Which is not what happens in the vid. To pull it off one would need to be either mobile (somehow avoid attacks) or have the strength to hold a small weapon against a big one. You can also use the enemies strength against them and go with being knocked back when blocking with the smaller weapon. Which is a lot more difficult to do compared to just blocking with a shield. The trick would be to get under the enemies reach somehow. Spear tip? Point. Behind that tip? Not so pointy.

[@Osman1c57]

maybe the jump in fully charged heavies is there to put ur entire bodyweight into a single point and if ur as buff as centurion in for honor, that probably will have a lot of force behind it.

[@sonnyboi1297]

*INCRENDIIIINIIII-*

[@ctina0011]

i doubt, but it would be really cool to see the other knights done, no one really does this type of stuff

[@nerfer200]

INCREDIBILIS!

[@pxrposewithnopurpose5801]

INCREDIBILIIIIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ttmaximomeridio]

holly youtube, make this blow up

[@TITANia69420]

Wait, wtf was that emblem on the Nobushi Mask 😭

[@1ofthelastrockers]

INCREDIBILIS!!!

[@LuBu-vi]

Most of his movement is from Achilles Troy movie

[@IDilectus]

I N C R E D I B I L I S ! 👊

[@ryan_1099]

This is super fun

[@gentlewolf9637]

Incredibilis!

[@rolandoalvarez5773]

Very incredibilis!

[@drzesaru2648]

Make more videos like this

[@blastzone2003]

You forgot to add koko soko for the punch montage

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

I have no idea what you mean 🤫

[@blastzone2003]

Search up koko soko centurion and I can gaurentee that something will show

[@-_-___----_..]

What about Warmonger? One of my personal favorites but with a questionable moveset

[@peyches00majickmanshin2]

13:33 But Centurion wears armor on his arms and hands so it would not go on his skin.

[@Shifty-012]

When you don't have hyper Armour in real life

[@Asianpower629]

They need to add the greeks

[@oliverhoeltzle1055]

This video is incredibilis

[@Evangylo]

who did the centurion voice when you guys were demonstrating it irl? that was impressive

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

The guy in roman armour (also the narrator of the video)

[@rafiqul84]

Do gladiator next

[@videogamesss1000]

Can we get an analysis of the executions?

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

Perhaps :D

[@ADRASTUS_MEK]

I understood the analysis and thought it was very good, but why are you attacking in just one direction? That alone made me curious, the video is great

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

We figured it not necessary since left and right are mirrored versions of each other. The right-handed sword grip was more natural and easy to work with.

[@ADRASTUS_MEK]

@@ContuberniumSPQR Now I understand, practicality in executing the movement is important, I understand now

[@fourzod]

Nice

[@the_knightcatTTv]

"Unless you have a foam sword" Nah i gotta teach the neighbors kid a lesson Also, can you do gladiator next? The roman duoiligy.

[@ContuberniumSPQR]

Gladiator is on the agenda for the future ;)

[@the_knightcatTTv]

@@ContuberniumSPQR you sir are a gentleman and a scholar

[@neptune1873]

Good video, nice costumes and nice moves ! Though the ear rape coulda been avoided from a viewer pov

[@nafereuskortex9055]

14:10 Eh, when it was announced they where going for realism but they decided they can be more creative if they go with grounded non realism.

[@gigachad4306]

12:54 you get a guaranteed uncharged heavy though?

[@EasyOST]

this is incredibilis

[@charlie_magne_103]

but, Rome cannot be bogged down in a single objective.

[@menaceflame]

For honor Cantaurion is a disappointmment, this is not a roman without carrying a shield.

[@Trustingturtle]

❤

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Wasted potential. Shield would have been great but I kinda think the devs at the time wanted something more unique and balancing. Giving a man a door in game without detructible shield physics or tabling would have be hard to balance. Counter idea, the gladius needs to be paired with a defensive implement in order to work well, there are extremely few projective users in for honor. Centurion's are for breaking sticks on the backs of rowdy legionaries. The Centurion's should have dual wielded gladius and a club. Most of the light club work with work as parries, the gladius would exploiting sucessfull parries, heavy attacks would the Centurion's trying the high risk of braining someone with his discpline device.

[@Ash24907]

Send this to bugisoft

[@AsuraHydra]

Noice

[@ben-td9ob]

For the algorithm

[@AzureSkyCiel]

"[side dodge attack] would be difficult against an opponent with a shield." "Boy, you telling me." - every hero with a side dodge attack. Edit: "I hope we haven't come off as super critical of the game" Oh, don't worry, the playerbase is plenty of that. Also, as a kensei main, trust me when I say I'm painfully aware how unrealistic the game can be. Even as a shameless weeb I know none of the samurai weapons save nobushi's spear and Shugoki's kanabo would help much against most of the armors unless you're only doing thrusts. Let's not even get into Kensei's forward dodge heavy using a FLIPPING JUMP and one where they move through the air SLOWER than gravity should allow.