New Big Picture - ELON MUSK IS STUPID: The Internet Is Stupid - Part III

[@Wintermute01001]

A tweet I read: If you can be CEO of over three companies at once, then that just tells me CEO isn't a very difficult or important job.

[@jimballard1186]

Hey, being CEO is VERY important! Who else is going to steal from the value the workers create???

[@BlueSpawn]

@@jimballard1186 Theft involves taking property from someone against their will. When you agree to work for specific wages, your property is not stolen. You are getting paid. You are not entitled to anything. There is a tiny fraction of humans that can accomplish what Musk has achieved. Everyone else is jealous.

[@jimballard1186]

@@BlueSpawn I point a gun at you and tell you I will shoot unless you give me your wallet. You give me your money. Therefore, I have not stolen from you, because you willingly agreed to enter into the contract I proposed. And Elon Musk has accomplished nothing. He bought companies other people created, and pretended he somehow created them. He has invented almost nothing, he has not done whatever you imagine the myth of Elon says he has done. He was born rich and stayed rich; that's all.

[@phoenixflower1225]

@@jimballard1186 haha

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@jimballard1186oh

[@brianoconnell6459]

Speaking of a rich VS poor thing, I recall the Occupy movement, when the media molded it to look like, "Hey, how can they be poor? They have smartphones!!!". Best described as "Let them eat Boost Mobile." IMO.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I remember. I was pretty down and nearly out myself at the time, despite best efforts. For that, I got called a "taker".

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

I remember when Fox News would run puff-pieces about "How can the poor be ACTUALLY poor? They have REFRIGERATORS!" Then again, this a country where the rich don't think they're rich... because they own only ONE Porsche, and not a whole G-D FLEET of Porsches in a solid-gold garage with diamond-studded security-locks. The line between Haves and Have-Nots is skewed... mostly because, as Bob keeps pointing out, the "Merehumes" are freaking morons.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

That logic tho.... 🤨

[@mossnord7136]

I googled “Why is Elon Musk so stupid?” And this video came up, wasn’t disappointed.

[@nancycollins4109]

There's also the fact his grandfather was the head of the Technocracy Movement in Canada, an anti-democracy ' smart people should run the world ' group with ties to eugenics and the Nazis (his grandfather was arrested for advocating to his followers to ignore their draft notices during WW2) and his mom, as a rebellious socialite teenager, spent time at Spahn Ranch during the Charlie Manson days. So much WTF in that family. A supervillain was inevitable.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

A supervillain would be an improvement over the babbling, bumbling failson we're seeing here. Maleficent put it best in the original Sleeping Beauty: "A disgrace to the forces of evil...!"

[@BlueSpawn]

Isn’t the entire CDC/WHO authoritarianism during COVID, the “Trust the experts and listen only to the experts, freedom of the people is second to expert sources” an embodiment of “smart people should rule the world” movement?

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@johnathonhaney8291fr

[@jordansweet8054]

Fascinating

[@VilcxjoVakero]

Wait does Canadian eugenicist = Tommy Douglas connection?

[@MartinOlminkhof]

The real nerds knew that Elon was stupid from the start

[@SidheKnight]

This ^ A similar thing happened with Cryptocurrency and NFTs. The people who really knew a thing or two about finance and/or computers recognized it as a scam almost from the start, while the smart-as-an-aesthetic techno-worshippers just retorted that "you're just salty because you didn't think of it first". Well, who's laughing now..

[@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516]

Lucky tho

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516 No luck lasts forever.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@SidheKnight I don't know more than the basics about tech and I could smell the rot from cryptocurrency from the start. But then, being familiar with a few historical Ponzi schemes, maybe I just saw the pattern happening again.

[@SidheKnight]

@@johnathonhaney8291 That too. If a system depends on buying something that has no use or value with the sole purpose of selling it for more money later, it's very likely a Ponzi scheme.

[@afterdinnercreations936]

To me, it comes down to this. Everybody wants to be the underdog; especially extravagantly rich people.

[@XplodingTurtle]

As someone actually on the spectrum, I don't believe he is on the spectrum. I just think he says so because he doesn't want people to laugh at him

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Or wants an excuse to act like an asshole with impunity. THAT is the more typical reason why too many white boys act the fool like this. As a fellow neurodivergent, that really pisses me off.

[@aramow]

For everyone asking about the reupload, there was a copyright strike about mid way through the video. Bob covers it

[@drlarrymitchell]

I had a little vuja de.

[@Alakaizer]

Over Tiny Toons footage.

[@plucas1]

@@Alakaizer I thought WB/D took those characters out behind the woodshed and stabbed them to death or something.

[@sailordaigurren8225]

@@plucas1 they did, but they'll be damned if someone else makes money on their corpses.

[@tpeluso]

@@plucas1 Nope, Tiny Toons Looniversity was one of the few animation projects in development at WBD that DIDN'T get the Zaslav tax-break chop.

[@ProgShell]

I had no idea that he didn't actually found Tesla. I like him even less now. Didn't think that was possible.

[@jadedheartsz]

I didn't know that either.

[@SymbioteMullet]

Look into the story some more, he did the founders of Tesla quite dirty.

[@epbrown01]

Two things annoy about that. One, he's got a contract with the actual founders that they *have* to say he's a founder in the media. That's stupid because 2) his *actual* accomplishment is impressive. Tesla was a rich guys hobby company, , like Keanu Reeves' Arch motorcycle company; in their case, converting Lotuses to electric. Musk took over and built it up to be an *actual* car manufacturer. That is amazing. Yet he has to be petty and lie about how the entire company was his idea.

[@BmoreAkuma]

He basically did what Ray Croc did with McDonald's

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

Bob I appreciate your assertion that because more of us are living to adulthood natural selection is no longer the pressure deciding how the human species propagates, but that assumes that stupidity is what gets people killed. And while I will agree that not reading signs at a crosswalk will get you hit by a car, back in the day being big and stupid didn't change your ability to chase down a deer. Being big and stupid didn't change your ability to gather firewood. In fact it increased your ability to be a bully, and be looked up to as a leader figure. Smart people have been removed from the gene pool for generations, before the occupation of doctor was born there was a local herbalist in most villages. That herbalist was most often a woman, who also served as the villages midwife. Those women were branded witches and put to death, and their knowledge is what selected them. Their fastidious cultivation of plant samples and desire to know made them a problem within structured society that was meant to revolve around men; a woman being able to heal people of their ills and make them feel better at the end of a long day? NOPE, SHE NEEDS TO MAKE BABIES, AND IF SHE WON'T SHE'S A WITCH AND WE WILL BURN HER. The dumbest and loudest among us have been making decisions for longer than we've had the written word.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Indeed...in fact, that evolution line runs counter to another frequent assertion of Mr. Chipman's. To wit, the society we currently have encourages smart people to flourish. I've never agreed with that because Mr. Chipman is confusing knowledge of current institutions with adaptation. Near as I can tell, few folk in our mutual age bracket are adapting that well to the new conditions on the ground. Unfair though it is, Gen Z is going to have to up its game in that department. Too many of their elders (and that includes me) failed them before now for it to be otherwise.

[@wererat42]

The worst part about this... the Musk fans are going to be falling over themselves saying "Ackchyually, this was his plan the whole time!"

[@johnathonhaney8291]

It's not JUST them. Some dummies on the opposite side are claiming said plan was to destroy Twitter completely just to hurt them and/or the causes near and dear to their hearts. As if Musk ever thought THAT deeply on the matter.

[@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516]

they already have. It's somehow the fault of liberals and SF residents now who are lazy and spoiled and "did bad work and never showed up" bla bla bla.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

Yeah... they refuse to acknowledge that he hasn't been playing 5D Chess, he's merely been playing Snakes & Ladders... with a big tub of hog-fat for greasing the rungs.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Even THAT feels too generous, Trib.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

@@johnathonhaney8291 It's the way of men who fancy themselves gods... gods don't play chess. They lack the patience and the imagination for chess. The game they like to play with the lives of mortals is Snakes & Ladders... with greased rungs.

[@redravin40]

I have to admit to having bought into it for a minute or two back when he bought/managed Space X. Then I did some reading... 9 times out of 10 research kills heroes.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Or at least gives the proper perspective to them. Accepting that they are human rather than gods is a humbling but necessary experience for true maturity.

[@EmeraldLavigne]

Holy shit! He DOES have something of the Innsmouth look about him, doesn't he???

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Don't you DARE compare him to that proven oppressed minority. If anything, he bears a closer resemblance to Wilbur Whatley. I mean, his mom looks like the type that would get it on with Yog-Sothoth, right?

[@gozerthegozarian9500]

The "some of those who run forces are the ones who gift horses" line is pure gold! I laughed so hard. And Mother Musk looks like an Addams Family reject.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I was thinking she looked like Cruella De Vil's younger sister myself.

[@GuitarRocker2008]

Being an ex-gifted kid who went through severe trauma at a young age and had undiagnosed ADHD and dyslexia making me fail every exam yet constantly being told I’m really smart I’ve always had a peculiar relationship with intelligence and how our society understands it. “Smart” by my reckoning does not exist because what someone considers smart is as individualistic and subjective as beauty or pain. At the end of the day the thing that really matters and that you should really look for is kindness.

[@TakeWalker]

Another ex-gifted kid here, also with undiagnosed ADHD at the time. Only I got to ace every test and be completely useless in any situation not involving learning or tests! We really need to get the concept of multiple intelligences into the mainstream, it would help push back against a lot of 'common wisdom' about what qualifies as 'smart'.

[@parallaxnick637]

Wow. I didn't know "ex-gifted" was a thing. I should put that on my Twitter handle. For now. Undiagnosed autistic spectrum in my case.

[@TakeWalker]

@@parallaxnick637 Us former gifted kids gotta stick together and keep reminding each other that anything worth doing is worth doing poorly :)

[@uanime1]

The existence of scientists and their research proves that "smart" does exist. The concept of multiple types of intelligence is deeply flawed since different people keep trying to use this so that whatever they're good at is considered intelligent, such as having musical intelligence but not art intelligence. It's far better to have one type of intelligence.

[@TakeWalker]

@@uanime1 Go ahead and ask them to do any sort of social interaction and you'll find out they're not so smart after all. Given some of the stories I've heard from actual scientists, it's a wonder many of them can live on their own without starving to death. It's "far better", to use your words, to take note where people's strengths lie than throw a simple "yes/no" choice at 8 billion people.

[@benwasserman8223]

Shall we all Tweet F to pay respect to Twitter’s cancellation? Amen!

[@weirdaljedifan2]

F

[@pepagacy]

F

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

F with Blue Checkmark.

[@BaronVonFisticuffs]

F

[@Trunks1stApprentice]

F

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

Elon Musk is the sort of self-proclaimed Tech Genius that is utterly convinced they must be Hiro Protagonist even as their every world and deed is that of a dollar-store L. Bob Rife.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

L. Bob Rife?

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

​@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 he's the antagonist of the book "Snow Crash" (this quote also references the hero of that same book, literally named "Hiro Protagonist")

[@photofreak56]

One of my co-workers has a relative who worked for Tesla for a bit. I think it's either their brother-in-law or sister-in-law someone close like that. This is someone who has a huge degree in system architecture and knows what the fuck they're doing when it comes to creating smart technology. Apparently Elon is a lot worse than even the worst stories about them online. According to my colleague they're in law decided to just bounce after working there for a year and a half because it just wasn't worth the non-stop 3:00 a.m. calls the erratic schedule and just getting their code straight up erased and told to be Rewritten in the span of 2 hours because Elon said so. Also speaking of someone with ADHD and dyslexia being neurodivergent doesn't mean you get to be an asshole. Yes we see the world differently yes sometimes it makes certain things seem a little bit more clear and creative for us. That doesn't mean that it's a superpower especially in a world not built for people like us. The only reason Elon has gotten as far as he has is because Daddy had a emerald mind which by the way most likely according to multiple reports engaged in child labor practices and his family were strong supporters of apartheid so fuck Elon Musk

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Fellow neurodivergent here with high-functioning autism...thank you for mentioning how a condition gives you no right to be an asshole or gives you a superpower. That second part is why I actually worry about Greta Thunberg, who has stated that her condition is her superpower. It gave her a different perspective, to be sure, one that helped supercharge the environmental movement at a critical point. But seeing some of her recent statements and watching her fade into the background makes me concerned that she's going to become another Helen Keller. What I mean by that is she's remembered for what she did as a kid and what she did later in life, however laudable, is totally ignored due to being marginalized during that period of her life. Still, at least Ms. Thunberg will have done SOMETHING worthwhile. From what you're saying, Musk employs the management techniques of Jim Jones to run his companies with very little to show for it.

[@Daneelro]

He claims to have Asperger's but does he really? He never presented an actual diagnosis, it seems more an erroneous self-diagnosis. He confuses being shy & awkward with being on the spectrum, even though he is a quite social person.

[@TurdBaron]

So true, Elon should start listening to fat NEETs like CinemaRob and maybe he could make something of himself

[@jackeldridge4225]

Elon Musk... The Tony Stark we wanted, the Justin Hammer we got. I am determined to make those my last words.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

As a description of Musk, I defer to this line spoken by Burt Lancaster in The Professionals: "Amigo...you just wrote my epitaph."

[@Eban11235]

Peter Thiel, actual vampire.

[@ianism3]

Herschel Walker just said he wanted to be a werewolf because they can kill vampires. maybe we can get em to mudwrestle? my money's on Walker though, obviously

[@Bizarro69]

Succession is terrifying when you realize that's actually how these people are. It's not cute, it's not enviable, it's devastating to everyone else that isn't them.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I say "comforting" rather than "terrifying". Knowing that I'm dealing with human beings as opposed to the alien creatures of downtrodden myth settles my nerves quite easily. After 20 years of straight jobs which mostly dealt with the public, I CAN FUCKING HANDLE HUMAN BEINGS.

[@scottbutler5]

It's a particular kind of mythmaking that credits Musk as the singular genius behind everything his companies are involved with, like he invented lithium batteries and came up with the idea of satellite internet all by himself, in between personally designing space rockets.

[@mabusestestament]

Yeah he's not totally unlike Trump.

[@boohiss]

He didn't even invent the idea of stealing other peoples ideas and running with them.....but he is pretty good at it.

[@faircompetition1203]

He did not invent any of the rocket tech . The Apollo missions landed on the moon i=under rocket and took off again in the 60's . It was not done because until recently it was cheaper to throw the rocket out than to overbuild it to the point it is reusable .

[@TrueYellowDart]

I’ll watch it again. Bob’s rapid-fire scripted stuff always yields results from a second viewing.

[@davidmurrell5143]

Yeah, I did the same.

[@thiscomment2010]

I haven't seen you since sometime in the middle of game overthinker 10 years ago. But the algorithm gave me some video that was basicly bashing you for being too political, and too left wing. So I searched you up and found you to be the normal amount of left and the right amount of political for your niche. So I'm just here to say good job, subscribe, and helpfully enjoy your content going forward.

[@hawaiidkw1]

Dangit, Bob, I want to help your algorithms or whatever, but when everything in the video perfectly encapsulates my own views, I don't even know what to say. One thing is for certain: Anytime a media outlet cheers some brave new visionary or pioneer or innovator who's going to take humanity to the next blah blah blah, there needs to be a goddam FOLLOW UP somewhere down the line detailing what this guy has actually _done_ and whether he really is the force for good his fans keep insisting he is. Hype is inevitable; respect is earned. We can't forget that.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

As with movies that need time to properly marinate, the trick is to wait long enough to reevaluate. As someone wiser than me once pointed out, cemetaries are full of "indispensable men". The ones who make the big impact usually are recognized long after the fact.

[@joncarroll2040]

Elon Musk is the perfect example of how a lot of what we call "smart" is a combination of good luck, good publicity and psychopathy.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

At least that's the cynical assessment of such. It would mean more if contrasted with an actual definition of smarts.

[@davidv4018]

mostly wealth heritage

[@MadMargaretGaming]

This needs to be updated to include the X debacle

[@Starcat5]

And in recent news, he has exed out Twitter. It is just called "X" now. The jokes have been writing themselves ever since.

[@SpoopySquid]

Musk's handling of Twitter is going to be a case study in business schools around the world

[@johnathonhaney8291]

FR...it's going to be spoken of in the same breath as Dutch tulips (look it up).

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Yes. A cautionary tale to be sure.

[@likenem]

The only thing he did right was delist the company

[@ChumblesMumbles]

"be rich and everything else will work itself out" is the one and only thing actually taught in business school. So yeah, it will be, but not in the way you're suggesting.

[@chavesa5]

If it weren't for the ridiculous amount of theoretical money involved, I really don't think it would. That's actually what's so interesting about this to old heads-- we've seen this kind of drama played on a small scale on crappy BBcode forums and mIRC/Discord servers for decades, and he made pretty much all of the classic egoistic incompetence moves seen there. There's almost no need to write about this except to say 'this was a stupid amount of money wasted' and 'it goes to show that human problems remain the same even at scale.'

[@darthwingnut464]

Rewatched. Always fun to rewatch a musk roasting session anyways

[@BaronVonFisticuffs]

Reengaging, as it's always fun to reengage on a Musk roasting session.

[@sailordaigurren8225]

"Psychotic billionaire makes mid-life crisis everyone's problem."

[@BlueSpawn]

Musk released insider information proving that FBI and the White House directed and/or paid Twitter to suppress voices and speech. I think you might be confusing who exactly is psychotic.

[@sailordaigurren8225]

@@BlueSpawn except that's not what the information says.

[@SuperSmashDolls]

As a Smart Nerd who's also On The Spectrum I can testify that many of the other Smart Nerds who were also On The Spectrum were bashing cryptocurrency because it was stupid. Or, they got into it (because distributed systems are computer engineering catnip) and jumped out a year later when they realized it wasn't actually able to solve the trust problems it said it could. In fact, crypto has gone through *three* boom and bust cycles already. Every time it's happened, the people hyping it have changed. The first cycle was right-libertarians who thought they were tearing down the system by letting more people in on the grift. The second cycle was business people who thought that security against man-in-the-middle attacks meant solving all logistics problems. The third cycle was retail investors who were still high off of breaking the backs of the GME short-sellers and wanted another line to go up. Occasionally blockchain does find an actual use-case (i.e. securing web encryption infrastructure, storing changes to source code, extorting people with malware, or buying hard drugs online), but the vast majority of people in there are just Greater Fools. The appearance of Bitcoin as intelligence absolutely attracts the kinds of people who want to cosplay as Smart Nerds On The Spectrum.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

As a Nerd On The Spectrum ("Smart" designation yet to be verified to my liking), I never trusted any of this from the start. It put off major Ponzi scheme vibes that proved accurate. The only Crypto I trust is the one in Destroy All Humans.

[@UGAlawdawg]

Hey Bob, I’m a longtime fan. I’ve been watching your work since you were on the escapist… maybe like 10 years? Not really sure, doesn’t really matter. I just want you to know that IMO this is your best work in years. It seemed like you were going through a little slump there for a while, but you are very clearly and obviously back. Truly fantastic video.

[@drakencorin]

Seconded.

[@mabusestestament]

Yeah it's a pretty good video.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I think the whole COVID thing got him down myself. Around last December and January, I was honestly getting worried about him. But yeah, he's got his spring back.

[@SuperINFINITY181]

Having to write and rewrite a potential video about what was going on at WBD multiple times certainly can’t have been good for him either; thankfully that’s been resolved…

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@SuperINFINITY181 Hell, I already forgot about that! But yeah, also true. I imagine that it's still heartbreaking to watch how Zaslav is setting WBD on fire in the name of a "rebuild" for Mr. Chipman too.

[@daelen.cclark]

“Miles Bron is an idiot.” -Benoit Blanc

[@BiologicalRiley]

Speaking for myself (someone who is on the spectrum and who is neurodivergent) Musk being neurodivergent is worth mentioning, but it’s also important to note that this doesn’t absolve him of the harm he has caused and the careers that he has ruined. It’s not a mutually exclusive thing (as Bob pointed out)

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Indeed, one of the things I often loathe about some folks who claim neurodivergence is that they use it as a license to be an asshole, usually if white and cis-male. As I happen to be white, cis-male AND neurodivergent, I lack the language to describe how deeply that performative idiocy pisses me off on the regular.

[@justinhicks3019]

drinking wine at work while you wait for your turn in the massage parlor, before your picnic followed by a nap, is not a career.

[@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516]

MUSK: "Well I mean I was in Iron Man...I was in the Monaco bar scene with the Oracle CEO and Robert Downey said "Hi Elon" and..." VOICE: "SIR THIS IS A WENDY'S..."

[@etexpatriate]

The Musk/Twitter implosion, and the gob-smacked commentary it's generating, is the best entertainment I've had this year.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

How long, do you think, before it completely collapses?

[@SidheKnight]

@@johnathonhaney8291 The collapse of Twitter would be a net good for humanity. That website has been one of the biggest contributors to the deterioration of discourse both on and offline.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@SidheKnight Yeah, fine, agreed...now would you MIND actually answering the question? How long, do you think?

[@etexpatriate]

@@johnathonhaney8291 I don't think it'll completely disappear, it'll stick around in some form or another (after all, MySpace and Digg aren't entirely dead yet). But I think its time as a top-tier platform is unlikely to last another year.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@etexpatriate Credible timeline based on what we know. Mastodon has really been getting the push in its wake but I keep hearing complaints on how un-user-friendly it is.

[@Madhouse_Media]

If you want him to block you on Twitter, just post that pic of him before he got his hair plugs. It's really that easy.

[@chibiktsn3]

The glass demo left me CACKLING! Phenomenal video, Bob.

[@GrindHouseOverJoy]

That “Oldman yells at Cloud” is forever.

[@dwc1964]

I grew up in, and with, Silicon Valley - my mom's tech job moved from the East Bay to the South Bay the year of my 10th birthday, 2 years after "Silicon Valley" was coined - so *nothing* about Elon Musk was ever new, or innovative, or interesting to me. There's not a single idea that he's been championing, with his fanboys praising him as "innovating", that I wasn't reading about in popular science magazines the 1970s and '80s. He was only ever a hype man, with the main subject of his hype being Elon Musk, Super Genius. The fact that his iconic, hyper-inflated _techbro_ image's collapse is causally tied to the collapse of one of the most important social media platforms of this Internet (and quite possibly his other era-defining purchases, depending on how much exposure they have via him), is just *chef's kiss* perfect. A gift to future historians, this shit writes itself. There's no freud like schadenfreude.

[@BadgunmusicII]

To all wondering; there was another video upload that is labeled as [unlisted]. So this is probably just a mistake. It’s either that or it’s a deep cut meta joke given that the first 3 minutes of the video is him talking about stupid people not being able to work tech properly.

[@crapstirrer]

Copyright claim due to WB footage

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

No, WB-Discovery popped him for the "Tiny Toon Adventures" Montana Max footage. Which is dumb, but a guy's gotta eat and Bob does this for a living.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Has WBD made any SMART decisions lately outside of the whole James Gunn thing (which feels like a PR stunt to me)?

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

@@johnathonhaney8291 "House Of The Dragon." Good show. Best thing to happen to Warner-Discovery since they've BEEN Warner-Discovery.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 House of the Dragon predates the current regime's decisions, so no.

[@Veolynn13]

just realized that the venn diagram of “Elon Musk stan” & “Killdozer apologist” probably has a shitload of overlap.

[@guillermoelnino]

Yeah, Being f ucked over by governent.

[@macross25]

I actually believed in Elon for a moment because of SpaceX, I really thought he might be a somewhat decent person... boy was I wrong. Glad to see NASA is moving forward, people are fleeing Twitter (which I did 3 years ago) and most major car companies are going electric.

[@claytonberg721]

Musk's greatest contribution to society was believing in electric cars a decade before anyone thought it was plausible to bring them to market. Without him, I don't think every major manufacturer would have one, or have plans for one right now. That said, that in and of itself is a problem because the fact that north american cities are built around cars not people is one of the biggest things driving unequal distribution of wealth is the car. You cannot function in almost every American and Canadian city without one, and if you don't have one, you are at a huge economic disadvantage. If you can't drive to do shopping you're going to pay a lot more for essentials. If you don't have a car you're limited to what work opportunities are available to you. If everyone in the universe was driving an electric car, yeah there would be less pollution. It still wouldn't completely solve global warming and some of the fundamental issues with our society would still be in place. So really, Elon's contribution to society has been a fairly small one.

[@rebeccaschade3987]

@@claytonberg721 And if car manufacturers were to make electric cars to replace every combustion car in the world, we'd run out of raw materials for batteries very shortly and we'd have a global electricity crisis on our hands. Charging an electric car with power from a coal power plant is arguably worse than running a combustion car. So unfortunately we neither the infrastructure to go all electric with cars or the raw materials to make the batteries for them.

[@Babbleplay]

Great timing on talking about just how stupid he is, given how badly he crashed and burned Twitter, and how quickly it accelerated.

[@jbee3]

7:52 the upside down twitter logo looks like Sonic the Hedgehog (with sort of a duckbill).

[@RossMichels418]

I am on the spectrum, and the biggest problem with being on the spectrum is that sometimes you assess over something so much that you convince yourself that you’re an expert in it.

[@jimballard1186]

That's not a spectrum thing, that's an everyone thing. It's especially prevalent in America, where we believe that knowledge is a thing you're born with rather than something you have to work to acquire.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@jimballard1186 As a spectrum guy myself, I can tell you it's trickier for us. Everyone around you doesn't see what you see. If they're particularly clueless or vicious, they may even try gaslighting you into agreeing with them. How can you make an accurate assessment of knowledge under THOSE conditions?

[@RossMichels418]

@@jimballard1186 no I’m referring to the fact that people on the spectrum tend to assess over one thing at a time. For example, I just watched a 5 hour video about Garfield. I have never watched Garfield, nor have I ever read the comics. For some reason I randomly had the sensation to learn everything about Garfield.

[@RossMichels418]

@@jimballard1186 I notice that Elon Musk kind of does the same thing, but with billions of dollars backing him. He will assess over something for a while, and then create or buy a company about that thing, then get bored.

[@jimballard1186]

@@RossMichels418 I won't speak to what's true or untrue of people on a spectrum because I feel that would be contrary to the point of calling it a spectrum at all, but I will say most men display behaviors that are listed as symptoms of ASD; just not enough of them to get an official diagnosis, and in my anecdotal experience it's not that unusual for people to fall down such rabbit holes. I'm not trying to negate your experiences or make you feel less special. I'm only saying you're not as alone as you might feel.

[@THESP-rz3hg]

Watching again- commenting again. The theme here is so important- if only as a reminder that you should always be wary of buying into ANY hype, especially brand loyalty.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

The trick is to be wary without falling into reflexive cynicism. Weigh the actual evidence and make up your own mind is always better.

[@danielmccormick700]

Darn it, part of me wanted to save the original video yesterday, but I was naive to think nobody would slap a copyright claim on this video. It feels like a joke where the punchline is always "Discovery Plus".

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Get in line...think WBD is still sore for the Black Adam review?

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

That Emerald mine was specifically in apartheid South Africa, as in it was worked by slave labor in a rigid caste system

[@mediamass1404]

daddy bought a depleted emerald mine and it blew up, Mommy was a model, her daddy was a politician involved in technocracy and great grandma was the first cyropractor in canada, Literally wts the point

[@AngryIrishBenjamin]

I'd like to say we should just rocketship Elon to another world but the aliens who lived on it would just say, "Hey! Don't dump your rubbish here!"

[@ktownshutdown21]

Masterful fucking timing for this one, Bob, LOL. #RIPTwitter

[@Frostfly]

Elon was so annoyed that the FTX guy got so much press...he decided to flush 44 billion just to show him who's the boss

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Cute story, not true. The FTX guy had his final fall from grace a little after Musk made the world's worst purchase.

[@Rubberman202]

I feel like Elon's intelligence or lack thereof was obvious for a long time now, but it's him buying Twitter (and then being forced to go through with the purchase even though he realized midway through that he offered too much to begin with because he didn't bother doing due diligence and researching it) and everything he's done with Twitter, or "X" since then just made it more obvious to more people how not only is he NOT that smart, but honestly never really deserved the position he had to begin with.

[@themanofmovies8104]

God bless that magnificent asshole, he'll do what I've wished for a long bit, killing/ destroying Twitter. Godspeed you magnificent bastard

[@snakesnoteyes]

This was good even before Musk zero staffed Twitter the weekend of the opening of the World Cup😊

[@parasharkchari]

11:18 -- That may not even be true. For one, he does not have any formal diagnosis. Secondly, dozens of actual Aspies have come out saying that he doesn't exhibit more than a few trivial aspects of Asperger's, all of which could easily be explained through other psychological factors. Moreover, while several in the field are willing to say it's not likely true, not one outside of his personal yes-men are willing to corroborate his claim. It's much more likely that he is lying to get some sympathy points to excuse his erratic behavior. There are a litany of interviews where he talks about it growing up, but he has almost never not lied about his childhood, so why would this be any different.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Not JUST sympathy points...guys like this also use it as an excuse to be a prick. As someone who never got a formal diagnosis himself on his condition (the thinking IS Aspie but again, nothing formal), that appalls me to no end. It makes me less likely to tell folks about what I am because assholes like this tar me with the same brush.

[@DannyboyO1]

This is... well timed.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Hard to say who is dumber: Musk for dumping 44 billion on Twitter or WBD for being petty about their IP. And as a neurodivergent myself, I am frankly embarrassed by the former's existence.

[@Irobert1115HD]

also bonus fact: the unbreacable glass makes the tesla cybertruck illegal without permits in pretty much everywhere on this plannet. maybe some afrcian countrys might allow it but pretty much every industrial nation has a law against that.

[@RoonMian]

Greetings from Germany: Yup, absolutely illegal here for the same reason why you can't own a tank. A vehicle you can use as a weapon without the police being able to get at you is no-no.

[@Irobert1115HD]

@@RoonMian wow das wusste ich jetzt noch nicht. das mit dem panzer meine ich.

[@sixvee5147]

God, I remember when I drank that kool-aid. Shittiest investment on my part ever!

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Ah, at least you learned, friend. "Experience is the name we give to our mistakes."--Oscar Wilde

[@Robert-hz9bj]

I've done a lot of dumb things in my life. But one of the most blindingly stupid of those things was buying, however briefly, into the myth of Elon Musk. SpaceX's achievements in space technology were my exact weak spot, unfortunately, and I (very inaccurately) gave Musk's supposed "vision" waaay more credit than deserved for these achievements. Then about 5 years ago, Musk got into a hissy fit on Twitter because the guy in Thailand rescuing those kids from a cave said "thanks but no thanks" to his (possibly imaginary) mini-sub and the spell was more or less broken for me...

[@RoonMian]

Good on you for still getting out of the Elon fandom relatively early.

[@mabusestestament]

"nerdshit which is largely coded as smart and thus can make you feel smart for being a fan of it." I hear you Bob... On second thought, above all nerdshit is largely coded as infantile.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Like I told you in the last video, it depends. To quote a bit of nerdshit I like because it's true, "knowledge has always been baffling to primitive man." In that vein, if you don't know shit about computers, you might give status who act like they do. For instance, I barely know enough to get by and someone once asked me to REPAIR their computer just because they thought I was THAT skilled in them.

[@jadedheartsz]

depends on what shit it is, like National Geographic and Nova is coded as smart whereas certain blockbusters are seen as juvenile.

[@RazTheOtter]

watching this has reminded me how much i missed your point of view. i hope you are well bob.

[@patrickk5287]

I love hearing people trash Elon Musk. His PR cult protected him from criticism way too long.

[@dekopuma]

For a while, all we really knew about Elno was the myth and the imagine. But the more he put himself out there, the more obvious he was a fucking moron. I think a lot of people didn't really pay attention until the Thailand cave rescue situation.

[@rorylumley4727]

It does seem werid his black friends are dave chappelle and neil de grass tyson. Dave makes sense when you learn they have been friends for years. niel degras tyson still seems out of no where.

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

[RE-UPLOADING MY COMENT FROM THE ORIGINAL VIDEO] I know Bob didn't like the _Jack Reacher_ movies, but there's a quote in the first one I kept remembering during the video: "[speciallized training] makes people who aren't necessarily smart seem smart by beating some tactical awareness into them" Programming and coding are ike any other trade: if you developt a good craftmanship you won't need intelligence. Also, this is when I mention my rule of thumb about "smart" people: never thrust somebody Redditors admire. Also, also: Peter Thiel owns Paypal? That explains a lot

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Also reposted from the last video: a quote from one of my favorite action films The Replacement Killers: "Don't confuse luck with skill."

[@ThePonderer]

This video plays even better after Glass Onion…

[@ABT212]

Of course, George Carlin means the median, not the average.

[@tripfarmer9508]

I've been mispronouncing Peter Thiel's last name this whole time? Fuck it, I'll call him what I want.

[@feniletilamina05]

Did you actually predict Glass Onion?

[@ron4pin]

Dang you're alive! Glad to have finally found you again throughout this wasteland of the internet.

[@Heimal]

I love how even after that whole video, Bob shows himself as a massive optimist even *thinking* "Maybe next time we..." No, Bob, no. You know this. I know this. It will happen again. And again. And... Yes... Again. Sigh. Great vid tho!

[@johnathonhaney8291]

If you're done with the self-loathing, I would thank you to detox from your own cynical pessimism. In the end, it makes you prey for the status quo because you can no longer believe a better way is possible, never mind make one. Surely you can be better than THAT.

[@benjaminjoslyn6250]

All of this, plus books. I can’t begin to count the number of people I’ve met who think they’re smart (or other people think they’re smart) because they read a lot. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good start, but it doesn’t matter how many books you’ve read, you can still be stupid. You just like to read.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

It's a great start but also a lousy finish.

[@seraphonica]

I'm so torn. I don't know whether to make a Lovecraft reference or a Green Lantern reference in response to your mention of yellow signs.

[@pietervancort5643]

Both

[@SymbioteMullet]

@@pietervancort5643 always both

[@johnathonhaney8291]

The Dunwich Horror would also be appropriate.

[@PaperMario64]

Kanye. Elon. Trump. - Case studies in personality disorders.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

And self-destructive behavior patterns.

[@Alakaizer]

Re-watching with middle fingers raised to WB-D.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Mind if I join you?

[@Alakaizer]

Go right ahead.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

0:31 You really need to reword or explain better that argument; because that can be interpreted as saying that natural selection was getting rid of stupid people on their youth specifically during the times in civilization when illnesses indiscriminately killed up to 50% of the population before reaching the age of 3. There is also the counterargument that better conditions during people's formative years provide them with a better development of their mental faculties just from the better nutrition they have compared to past generations.

[@Loremastrful]

Sorry WB-D made you pull the Tiny Toons stuff. Montana Max is a perfect cipher for musk. And Montana as James Brown is still funny after all these years.

[@johnvinals7423]

Montana Musk

[@TwinRiver100]

Why the re-upload? Did something happen to the original? Or was there an error in the original?

[@Strivez]

Copyright claim on the original one

[@heavysystemsinc.]

Elon Musk got mad. lulz

[@BadgunmusicII]

The other one is labeled as [unlisted]. So he mistakenly did this. It’s either that or it’s a deep cut meta joke given that the first 3 minutes of the video is him talking about stupid people not being able to work tech properly.

[@TwinRiver100]

@@Strivez ah, that would make possible sense.

[@RatPfink66]

hey bob, how do you decide which r's to drop and which ones to hold on to? and how many times have you been asked this question?

[@natezabinski5615]

Writing this as Twitter's crashes are spiking pretty bad. If we make it to the World Cup on Sunday, it would be a miracle.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

To paraphrase Casablanca, and Musk has outlawed miracles.

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

Do you think Elon Musk buyed twitter because he wants to be like Peter Thiel but he doesn't understand that to be a machiavelian Mephistophenes-like mastermind you need to not only work far away from the spotlights but also work with people who are far away from the spotlight? Musk seems like something out of an sketch: he shows up to the presidential candidates during their campaigns saying "sell me your soul and I will make you President for life" and both candidates are like "sorry kiddo, I sold my soul decades ago, that's how I got to be candidate in the first place. Want some favor? Tell your lobbist to take a number and wait"

[@johnathonhaney8291]

He actually makes me think of Mr. Feathersmith in the Twilight Zone episode "Of Late, I Think Of Cliffordville", a bored tycoon who cuts a deal with one Ms. Devlin (get it?) to go through the reconquering of all he got...only to find out that he failed to remember properly or read the fine print of the deal.

[@sifatshams1113]

The world needs another Really That Good.

[@crithon]

lol, OH BOY! Wyatt Ingraham! Now that's a video I can watch on loop..... the world is on fire, and it's funding THAT!

[@rmeddy]

"Fid Tulia" "What is the Doxian Iconography?"

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

I hate to say it, but stupid things can still ruin people's lives. This may sound terrible, but you should really watch Carlos Maza's How To Be Hopeless, it is an analysis of the book Plauge. A lot of people mythologize the world from their own perspective, and certainly all of their cleverness and plans and dreams could not be curtailed by something as stupid as a plague! And yet plague comes, and because they forgot to be careful it is devastating. This book was written by a man being held captive in Nazi Germany. The plague he was writing about was fascism, but it's just as true of the viral sort.

[@canneddirt]

don't mind rewatching. Commenting to help.

[@VivisPal]

Remember when everyone thought Elizabeth Holmes was a genius?

[@cthroatbill5192]

"If you're so smart why aren't you rich?"

[@CirianAlani]

"Because I'm not related to a rich person."

[@cthroatbill5192]

@@CirianAlani kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnObqGmcq6lplZI

[@Asahamana]

You know My oldest sister IS on The spectrum, high functioning yet she hates having to learn how to use computers or phones and cant tell Time. She is almost 40. Just saying ...

[@jimbrown5091]

As a retired mechanical engineer who spent a few decades in heavy vehicle and diesel engine industries, I firmly believe I have forgotten more about manufacturing than Musk will ever know. Like, me and my buddies from engineering school laugh at the ridiculous cult of personality that causes his small car company to be vastly overvalued. Or the fact that they can barely service or repair them. I don't hold the fires against him, lithium ion batteries are..."energetic" and being in cars provides ample opportunity for them to be damaged...especially with sketchy self-driving capability (which I do blame him for). Bottom line Musk takes a lot of credit for the hard work and legitimate engineering talent in his various companies. Also...there's a really good video that breaks down the evidence of him being "on the spectrum" and posits that he may be lying about that.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Yeah, the neurodivergence angle is one too many asshole white boys play to justify bad behavior. With that said, there is the rather unpleasant possibility that they are both neurodivergent AND bad people in general. Not mutually exclusive, those two conditions.

[@aliasisudonomo]

A good video overall, but that Idiocracy-style "natural selection means more idiots are alive" *IS NOT HOW NATURAL SELECTION WORKS, BOB.* The one fly in the otherwise insightful ointment.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Indeed, that one struck me as subbing out Christian theology on good and bad for a more secular version. The whole of human history is a direct contradiction to Mr. Chipman's assertion on this.

[@jeremypnet]

Actually, there’s some concern that smart people might be having fewer children than stupid people. If that’s the case, then the stupid gene(s) have an evolutionary advantage.

[@aliasisudonomo]

@@jeremypnet No, not really. Again: not how it works.

[@amandadiamond7147]

I'm just glad other people are finally seeing it.

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

Highly recommend philosophy tubes video on Elon Musk from like 6 years ago, talking about the commonalities between Elon musk, iron man, and Bill Gates; they are all the fictional character of a universal designer

[@shinote4]

A stasticial breakdown of Hershel Walker's career shows that every team reduced their win rate after he joined, suggesting he might not have been great at football.

[@DevilSurvivor69]

Exactly, he's is trash 🗑

[@1987MartinT]

I'm pretty sure the first time I even heard about Elon Musk was that Simpsons episode. And not even by watching it. By watching a reviewer tear into it(I believe it was PhantomStrider). So I was listening to him describe how bad this episode was, which spent its entire runtime glorifying Elon Musk, and I was like "Who?".

[@arvidp.247]

Oops, missed the original upload. Still a good watch though.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

"Welcome to the party, pal!"

[@peggyliepmann5248]

Engagement Comment For The KZbin Algorithm! Every time I learn something new about Musk, the less I care about him.