Moving on from James Somerton

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Tristan Gray

Tristan Gray

Күн бұрын

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@parasitesundinism
@parasitesundinism Жыл бұрын
The todd in the shadows video about his factual inaccuracies is crazy too
@JustWowNick
@JustWowNick Жыл бұрын
I is genuinely comical how he feels he needs to lie about the littlest things.
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
Another two hour video with no overlap.
@aazhie
@aazhie 11 ай бұрын
Agreed! That one was absolutely cutting into so many details Hbomber didn't have time for.
@Inanna-lc2kg
@Inanna-lc2kg Жыл бұрын
I was a high schooler when I found him, and at one point I signed up for his patreon because he made a video about how much trouble his channel was in financially. I feel like I fell for a blatant manipulation there, I remember him specifically saying that he would never ask for support like this unless he was in real trouble and I naively believed him. His was the only channel I ever supported with money because I didn’t even have a job at the time, and I feel really gross about that.
@fujster
@fujster Жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@aazhie
@aazhie 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's not always hard to be deceived. But it's important to be aware we CAN be tricked, and to learn from this, without becoming super cynacl and nasty about it
@bexrex97
@bexrex97 Жыл бұрын
AS A QUEER PERSON. I loved his videos and almost signed up as a Patron, so very nearly. I am heartbroken and so angry😩
@LushOffiziell
@LushOffiziell Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you can be angry regardless your background in any way
@fujster
@fujster Жыл бұрын
​@@LushOffiziellSure but why do you feel the need to say that
@MacenW
@MacenW Жыл бұрын
​@@fujsterwhy do they feel the need to express they're queer when the comment isn't relevant? The video is, but this comment isnt
@Schmidtelpunkt
@Schmidtelpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@LushOffiziell In this case it is an important factor, as Somerton sort of implied that he would represent the queer community, which adds to the betrayal.
@reallyWyrd
@reallyWyrd Жыл бұрын
It can take a lot of courage to be able to admit to mistakes. It is cool of you that you are able to do this. I didn't fall for James Somerton specifically, but I have had the experience of falling for liars in the past. It sucks every time, that feeling of betrayal.
@mdstevens0612
@mdstevens0612 Жыл бұрын
While I never pledged to his Patreon, I remember finding his JK Rowling video so comforting after finding out what an awful person she was. I ended up giving Killing Stalking another chance after watching his video. If nothing else, Matt Baume getting a boost is wonderful. For real, his video on Kevin Conroy makes me ugly cry every time.
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG Жыл бұрын
I luckily had barely come across him, so I don't have the same sense of betrayal, but I feel for you. I was already subscribed to some of the people recommended, such as verilybitchie, Matt Baume, and Alexander Avila. I'm now checking out more.
@alinachrist8416
@alinachrist8416 Жыл бұрын
This is astounding how much this one person's actions have impacted so many queer creators and fans. I personally found his channel throufh his killing stalking video and really liked that someone was doing essay style vids about lgbt community on youtube. But his essays, in which he particularly promoted his ideas against capitalism, felt icky to me specially with the ad revenue that he got from them. I slowly stopped watching his stuff and moved on. It was so crazy seeing the channel I had considered to be a great source of queer essays turn out to be an unauthorized text-to-speech convertor for so many actual articles and books without acknowedging the authors at all. It was lazy, manipulative and disgusting. It hurts to think that people like him exist.
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 Жыл бұрын
I'm a cishet leftist & long-time fan of Hbomberguy from the early days of "breadtube" [sic]. I'm not sure if I've run across any of Somerton's work before. But I _have_ had Matt Baume's videos come up in my recommends on account of my interest in media criticism in general, and have watched a few. His vibe is the polar opposite of Somerton's, to me - where Somerton comes off as joyless, Baume is joyful, like, he actually _likes_ his job. Which, on top of the quality of his work in general, keeps me coming back. So, that's my recommend, FWIW.
@tgraywrites
@tgraywrites Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip!
@metroid031993
@metroid031993 Жыл бұрын
There's a pattern I've noticed, beyond the red flag of weird wording, with these people who plagiarized. They're always pretty monotone, they don't seem to be enjoying the work. Because, if you're just regurgitating someone else's words, where's your connection to the work? You didn't write it, and often when you're plagiarizing, your goal isn't to spread the work, that's just a means to the real goal; money. I noticed it with Blare (illuminaughti) and, once Somerton was brought to my attention, I noticed it with him too. Just another thing to look out for.
@renaigh
@renaigh Жыл бұрын
I get what you mean about not gelling with his content up to a point, it was right after James had his little rant about Nebula on a livestream that made me feel off about his content but being unable to parse why exactly.
@GrahamChapman
@GrahamChapman Жыл бұрын
For anyone looking to fill the void that James Somerton's exposure and subsequent exodus might've left in their lives (or who are just looking for quality content in general) I personally recommend Philosophy Tube, a.k.a., Abigail Thorn. She's a friend of hbomberguy and has a lot of really interesting content on her channel. Her latest episode, coincidentally, is about how she was plagiarized by some dude, and how this is an issue that a lot of women and people within the queer community have been subject to.
@tgraywrites
@tgraywrites Жыл бұрын
Can absolutely second this suggestion. I'm a philosophy grad and wish Abigail had been making her content back when I was studying (unfortunately we're a similar age!). Never miss one of her videos
@GrahamChapman
@GrahamChapman Жыл бұрын
@@tgraywrites Same here. ^^ Started watching her stuff 4-5 years ago, and it's been a wonderful journey indeed. Also, The Stupendium, a.k.a., Gregory Holgate. They're not an essayist, and their content isn't exactly academic, but they're rather a nerdcore musician with a very leftist slant to their songs. (Check "The Fine Print" for a prime example of what The Stupendium's content is about.)
@alinachrist8416
@alinachrist8416 Жыл бұрын
What would you say about verilybitchie? I like most of her content, even tho I might not agree with all her opinions.
@waywardmind
@waywardmind Жыл бұрын
I think she's great, but you don't have to agree with someone on everything to enjoy what they're doing or appreciate their perspective. (In fact, I would argue that you shouldn't only watch people with whose views you completely align.) Also, Matt Baume is superb. (mentioned by HBomberguy also)@@alinachrist8416
@suggiethames9870
@suggiethames9870 11 ай бұрын
@@tgraywrites she does not seem to talk about the same variety of media Somerton did. Does she cover manga and popular streaming shows?
@zacharyantle7940
@zacharyantle7940 Жыл бұрын
Stealing aside, I just never got behind his stuff cos he always pushed opinions that to me as a gay man, made no sense and came off as extremely antagonistic and incendiary, and just seemed to make people like us come off as misinformed and crazy, and that’s absolutely not the kind of optics I want for myself when it comes to exposure to the rest of the world…
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 Жыл бұрын
Oh really? Like what?
@legolav2
@legolav2 Жыл бұрын
In Hbomberguy's video there's a whole little section about James seemingly having some need to constantly complain about women, so I'm guessing that's what he's referring to here
@naurrr
@naurrr Жыл бұрын
I'm so annoyed because I used to occasionally watch his livestreams and the way he interacted with the chat and his community always felt like he was arrogant and knew more than anyone else in his streams. like he was too good to answer earnest questions or respond to inquiries and ideas from the community and was just streaming to have people to talk down to. the vibes were majorly off. plagiarism like this is so ridiculously inexcusable and I hope he never resurfaces online. what an absolute tool.
@justwatching1980
@justwatching1980 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Well done!
@aazhie
@aazhie 11 ай бұрын
So i'm not getting involved in my community specifically because of this event. However, being more involved in contact with my local queer. Friends has really helped me deal with the shame of supporting such a duplicitis person. I really appreciate Todd and H bomberguy emphasizing that you aren't a bad person for being deceived. I think so many people were just excited to have someone to rally around, it's contagious.
@watchingvideosnow
@watchingvideosnow Жыл бұрын
appreciate your sincerity and intelligence !
@folkloreofbeing
@folkloreofbeing Ай бұрын
When you step back and really listen to Somerton's narration, you can hear that it is rote and veing 'read off' as apposed to something someone has written with passion. His narration is the equivalent of eating unbuttered toast.
@andybaldman
@andybaldman Жыл бұрын
Just imagine all of the other people who are grifting you that you AREN'T aware of.
@justwatching1980
@justwatching1980 Жыл бұрын
yeah, like big business...
@donthasselthehoff5753
@donthasselthehoff5753 Жыл бұрын
@@justwatching1980 Champ, ALL businesses do it.
@bazotter
@bazotter Жыл бұрын
you live and you learn
@InsightfulUndercurrents
@InsightfulUndercurrents Жыл бұрын
Can I ask where you could get that shelve/ stand behind you?
@tgraywrites
@tgraywrites Жыл бұрын
Yep! It's a "HOMCOM Wood Bookshelf Industrial Style 6 Tier", I got it from ManoMano and added Govee RGBIC LED Strip Lights behind it
@shadetreader
@shadetreader 10 ай бұрын
Maybe we need to stop relying on a few highly visible channels and actually go out of our way to find truly independent content (even if it doesn't have slick production or lots of jokes) 🤔🤔🤔
@MrCompassionate01
@MrCompassionate01 10 ай бұрын
Hbomberguy ain't so clean himself.
@kyro8581
@kyro8581 Ай бұрын
what do you mean by that?
@poerava
@poerava 11 ай бұрын
How is james not fined? Isn’t it illegal?
@brook_angel
@brook_angel 10 ай бұрын
I mean. Hbomb opens the video with the information that it is neigh impossible to get financial compensation if you're a victim of plagerism. Especially since the victims don't all come from the same country it might be difficult to take him to court. But I'm not a lawyer
@poerava
@poerava 10 ай бұрын
@@brook_angel Class action time!
@beckyginger3432
@beckyginger3432 10 ай бұрын
Gita Jackson -stop asking me to sue James Somerton Maybe this essay is worth a read
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna recommend those creators to your peers like you did with Somerton?
@tgraywrites
@tgraywrites Жыл бұрын
Strange question on a video where I literally do that, isn't it?
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