Moving to Panama vs Costa Rica and Why I Left

[@living_in_latam]

From your comments: Here is a follow up to this video: Comparing San Jose & Panama City: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@JuanMoreno-wo5yb]

For beaches, you have to go to the other side of the country which is where k except for the sharks and crocodiles or Boca del Toro islands! Expect dumb tourists there though!! 😮

[@100pctdago3]

Central Valley near San José would have been a different story. I've been traveling to Costa Rica for years. You should have opened an international account with Charles Schwab! I had no problem with banks. Central Valley is more conducive to digital nomads. The infrastructure in Guanacaste and is not as developed as the San José area! You were paying tourist prices for everything.

[@living_in_latam]

@ these are the things we learn by doing more content and passing on knowledge to others. Thank you for this. Could be a good video.

[@ronbernstein1687]

Which country do u feel safest in?

[@robertgillies9382]

You are completely right about Panama vs Costa Rica. I have lived in Panama for 25 years. I visited Costa Rica back in the nineties and decides against choosing it as a place to retire. Instead I chose Panama. I live in Chiriqui close to the border with Costa Rica so I can spend time in Costa Rica whenever I wish. I like living in Panama. I even became a Panamanian citizen back in 2013. I am here to stay.

[@reinadelmar11]

Nice!!! I haven't been to either country yet but have basically come to the same conclusion. I have been considering the Southern Zone in CR in the mountains but maybe I'd be better off up in the mountains on the other side of the border.

[@hansz2000]

I am moving to Panama, would you care to give me some advice (especially about legal options)

[@aidanflynncarey7950]

Hi are you an American?! I would love to learn more! Please message me :)

[@Banksy2022]

I live in Boquete, Panama 4 years. Most ATM limits are $250 but our Banistmo bank allows $500. You can do 2 transactions per machine per day. We have recycling in several locations plus volunteers who pick up trash every Sunday. The consistent temperatures, lower cost of living & especially the affordability & access to quality healthcare were our major reasons for moving here. We are both in our 60's & pay $224 a month for health insurance compared to $2000 a month in the U.S. when we left.

[@living_in_latam]

Yes I have heard Boquete is awesome. I will be going that way to shoot soon, to create more content comparing the different areas.

[@valentino3228]

The limit to withdraw is 500 USD for security reasons.

[@living_in_latam]

@@valentino3228 yes with a Panamanian card. But a North American card is different. It was $250 for my CIBC Canadian card

[@robinjfr]

Have you found that Panamanians are being priced out of Boquete, or that isn't the case? It seems as though so many expats are heading to Panama, that I wonder whether that has had a negative impact on Panamanians. Boquete is very lovely!

[@living_in_latam]

@@robinjfr through 2 years in Panama it depends what you mean by priced out. Because I’ve seen a lot of middle class Panamanians making a good salary, or owning their own companies.

[@ChrisSmaller]

Been living in Costa Rica for many many years. Now 63 divorced from a Tica Now I'm going to be able to collect my SSI and thinking of moving to Panama and Starting A New Life

[@living_in_latam]

@@ChrisSmaller great. I’ll create some more content on different areas.

[@nicoibzschalin-hr4bj]

Alway a cholita waiting for that perfect gringo😅

[@ChrisSmaller]

@@nicoibzschalin-hr4bj Divorce/Single and Staying That Way. I Paid My Dues. Enjoying The Peace and Freedom of Choice every day

[@JORGEGOMEZ-pd3me]

WELCOME DUDE

[@ChrisSmaller]

@@JORGEGOMEZ-pd3me Thanks Man I'll be there in 1 week. Just gave away all my house stuff to a young couple with a small child to give them a leg up in life. Going with only a Backpack and a Smile

[@ruthsantos5526]

Thank you for your video and your comments . I love my country ( Panama), and yes, we have major things to improve, but I had lived in other countries and believe me , there is nowhere else I rather be...now , trash is a big issue yes, but We do have recycling projects in several locations in the city ,( Clayton for example ), and also in Boquete and Volcan (the highlands district) located in Chiriqui, wonderful areas to retire and explore.

[@jorgeeduardobarrios8096]

PANAMÁ🇵🇦(my country) is the best country in CENTRAL AMERICA 👏👍👌💪😏

[@WorldofSerena964]

Yes,it’s the best, well… not for the people in 1989 that lived here

[@jorgeeduardobarrios8096]

@@WorldofSerena964 Oh yeah , I was lived hards & bads times with NORIEGA dictator 😖 . Today & thaks of GOD, my PANAMÁ is other country 👍👌👏🏆🏆 is a country with many advantage : Great geographic position Have inter ocenic canal Ports in both oceans Interoceanic railway Inter oceanic highway Only country in CENTRAL AMERICA ,with METRO TRAIN-SUB WAY Banking center Dollarized economi Many comercials centers ( MALLS ) COLÓN free zone 😏👌💪👍👏🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦

[@Dbeiejeenwiwnsbsiekwnwhsurekeb]

I’m gonna go ahead and do some research as into what you’re talking about I’m planning on moving there soon

[@boneman1982]

The more I read about it, the more it seems like it!

[@living_in_latam]

@@Dbeiejeenwiwnsbsiekwnwhsurekeb I’ll be here if you need anything or I know a lot of good people too.

[@Gbar911]

It is not a fair comparison to talk about a remote town in Costa Rica versus the capital city of Panama.

[@living_in_latam]

Would you prefer I talk about San Jose, Costa Rica? The goal of the video is to share my experience as a Canadian moving down here. Most Canadians will go to Tamarindo, Nosara, or Santa Teresa before they go to San Jose. Hence the comparison.

[@rocharocha8199]

You can talk about little towns like Atenas, Grecia, San Ramon, Perez Zeledon

[@PlayfulInsights]

It's accurate. Doesn't matter if you're in the capital of CR. I'm waaay down south and he's nailing it. Ha, and I'm moving to Panama City in 4 weeks-well for me, I'm done with being solo on a mountain in the jungle. 3 years was all that was needed. Ready to get back to civilization, yet not going back to the US...ever. So the journey continues!

[@living_in_latam]

@@PlayfulInsights thank you. Some disagree some agree. You win some and you lose some. If you need anything recommendations let me know.

[@living_in_latam]

@@rocharocha8199 yes I can but the coastal Towns get more tourism, and it’s where more foreigners visit. That’s why I used those towns for this video. In other videos I mention San Jose and other coastal Areas.

[@ArtieGUZMAN-k7k]

I'm considering moving to CR from the U.S. and i appreciate your honesty.

[@living_in_latam]

Of course. If you need any advice I have people I work with in Costa Rica as well. If you need someone you can trust.

[@CarlosAndresR9]

There are many factors why foreigners prefer Panama: Private Healthcare in Panama is far superior to that of Costa Rica, and Costa Rica's public healthcare is a disaster. Panama has the highest human development index in Central America. Panama is the richest country in Central America. Panama is much safer than Costa Rica, Panama has fewer homicides than Costa Rica. Panama has better roads and highways. In Costa Rica more than 90% of the roads are deteriorated and the vast majority are made of dirt and stone. On a cultural level, Panamanians are friendlier, more open to foreigners. Food prices in Costa Rica are surprisingly high, the vast majority of the national industry of low quality, in Panama you can find products from all over the world at affordable prices. In Panama they use the dollar and have no inflation. Panama has more natural wealth than Costa Rica. Costa Rica is a village-like town.

[@guillermogouldburn763]

I'm from Panama but remember some people prefer a "village-like town."

[@living_in_latam]

yes exactly.

[@rotorairgroup8409]

​@@guillermogouldburn763hippies do

[@vivianballestero7615]

Be more serious in your comment, I read a lot of ignorant facts, I have visited Panamá since childhood, so what you are saying is not real, talking about health care, Costa Rica has the best in Latín América.

[@rotorairgroup8409]

@@vivianballestero7615 Panama has one hospital in the top ten rank in Latin America. Costa Ricans think that the Rest of the world is like Nicaragua

[@mkoschara]

I live in Costa Rica and have to say that I've not experienced many of the things that you outlined here in this video. For example, it's possible to buy a car entirely with a credit card. As for roads/electricity/internet/etc., the Central Valley is incredibly modern - you would have done much better living in Escazu- but now you're in Panama City. Disfruta!

[@living_in_latam]

Like I said starting this video, I still really do Like Costa Rica. The Central Valley is very different then the Coastal area. The coastal cities are much more rural. If your wanting to buy a brand new car, yes you can buy with a credit card. But if your coming on a budget then you may want to buy a used car.

[@dsmp_17]

​@@living_in_latamBut you are comparing the reality of the coastal areas of Costa Rica with the capital of Panama, that is somewhat unfair and you are leaving Costa Rica as an underdeveloped area when it is not.

[@angeljoelcruz5250]

​@@dsmp_17pero si coata rica es sub desarrollo no se q desarrollo tiene

[@dsmp_17]

@@angeljoelcruz5250 si quieres ver una zona subdesarrollada ve a la Chorrera, San Miguelito (así está el 60% de Panamá)

[@dsmp_17]

@@angeljoelcruz5250 IDH-D (índice de desarrollo humano real según el PNUD) Esperanza de vida de 81 años, la sanidad número 36 del mundo, el mejor país del mundo para el retiro, el país más innovador de Centroamérica, las mejores universidades del área, el país con mayor bienestar social de CA. Podría seguir todo el día

[@vanessasaenz7303]

Not exactly a fair comparison since Tamarindo is a town of 8000 and PC has 2 million people.

[@living_in_latam]

Panama City Vs. San Jose
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E Bocas Del Toro vs. Tamarindo
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=LcczPMZE6A_9h-1E

[@MelissaCarson-j1d]

Great content! Please explore other regiones of Panamá. Lots of infrastructure. Valle de Anton, East & West side of Azuero Penninsula for beaches, Santa Fe, Chiriqui beaches & Boquete, Volcan, & Bocas del Toro. All real estate related. There is way more if you are surfing, fishing, hiking, horse back riding, ranching, white water, etc.

[@living_in_latam]

I plan to and will explain and compare more down the road.

[@thepanamaguide]

Excelent Video ! Very Well detailed. Thank you!

[@living_in_latam]

Glad you liked it!

[@marvinsanchezmora4876]

Jaja Sobre todo detallado!!! No ofreció nada de objetividad en este video..

[@MICHAELMEREDITHSR]

Thanks for your timely video! It's just what i needed to see/hear. 🙏🦉 🎄

[@living_in_latam]

I'm glad you found it helpful. More to come soon.

[@hhabty4571]

Hi Jesse, great content, loving the channel, please keep the content coming, thank you! I saw some of your ocean reef condo videos, top notch talent!

[@living_in_latam]

Thank you, a lot more coming soon.

[@living_in_latam]

Let me re-clarify some things for the Costa Rican people: 1. This video is simply to compare the areas where most expats or foreigners go in Costa Rica. (Guanacaste) - A small country has the same rules across the board. It wasn't meant to compare a beach town to a major city. 2. I bought the car in San Jose, because it was the cheapest I could find. So the Banking issues, wire transfers, and visa issues all happened in San Jose. Not Tamarindo. But I will be creating more content comparing the best with the best , in my opinion. To help foreigners decide on a place that they would like to relocate to. Hope this helps.

[@JuanMoreno-wo5yb]

My advice for any Spanish speaking Country is to learn Spanish as well as you can and live outside any tourist area and only go to the tourist spots when you miss encounters with rude obnoxious stupid people! I live alone btw!! 😂❤

[@asamanthinketh1937]

Expats live all over costa rica. Guanacaste is underdeveloped compared to the expat hotspots in the central valley like Escazu, Santa Ana or Pinares. If you compare Panama city to guanacaste, you might be right but the comparison is distorted. If you compare guanacaste to bocas del toro for example, guanacaste is ahead in terms of development.

[@PhoenixwayNet]

I would say you are incorrect when you say "most expats go to Guanacaste." You are missing the Central Valley, where most expats w/money go to live.

[@living_in_latam]

@ looking at the numbers. If I was a betting man, I would have to disagree. Yes expats with money are in the Central Valley. But what about Nosara to Papagayo and that is only guanacaste. Santa Teresa, Jaco, Los Sueños, Uvita, Manuel Antonio etc. it’s a big area where most of the expats are coming to the beach. Yes Central Valley has a lot, but not “most”

[@marvinsanchezmora4876]

No. Sus comentarios generan molestia. No ha sido grato. Quédate en Panamá y no malforme opiniones sobre Costa Rica.

[@bartstewart8644]

Any thoughts about Panamanian-American relations going forward? Absolutely unbelievable that I even have ask that question, but that's what we have sunk down to.

[@living_in_latam]

I don't think anything will happen. Reversing decades of work and relationships in 4 years, will raise a lot of alarms around the world.

[@user-on6uf6om7s]

I have only vacationed in Panama but it's hard for me to imagine why anyone would choose Panama City. It's pretty dilapidated in a lot of spots, it's got the heat and the humidity (which Panama has in general but it's far from the best area for that), and it's the only place in the country where the people weren't friendly. I get that it's convenient but it just has none of what makes Panama appealing to me.

[@living_in_latam]

True. Just some enjoy city life vs. Living with beach or jungle vibes.

[@fabriziochavarria9793]

I believe the comparison isn't entirely fair, as Tamarindo is a small rural beach town, while Panama City is a large urban area. However, other points mentioned are valid, such as the high cost of food and housing, etc. I believe a fair comparison is tamarindo vs Bocas del Toro or similar size town

[@living_in_latam]

Since the release of this video 2 months ago I went to bocas del toro and Tamarindo again to shoot a comparison on those. Here is a comparison of the 2 capital cities, city to city: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9Esi=yEYDGFkQ16QKU1j1

[@living_in_latam]

Here is the comparison of bocas and Tamarindo kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=60ojeFPax93kPXol

[@tropikietis]

Absolutely

[@becky9914]

Panama has a lot of beaches and a lot to explore I hope you love it as much as I do and there are centers for recycling you just need to look for them..

[@living_in_latam]

yeah the recycling is starting to pop up, which is a great sign.

[@rogdog3373]

Thumbs up for your friendly and honest presentation . Its all about priorities of Western style luxury down to beach bum getting it away from it all and finding your right compromise.. Most of your complaints about banking and costs have effective workarounds . I appreciate your comments on the difference in beach /life /good vibes quality between Panama and CR.

[@living_in_latam]

thank you !

[@5ft2geo]

Thanks for this video, learned a lot!! Venezuelan here! US permanent resident in NYC, looking to make a move soon, any advice on financing properties in CR? or if you have consulting services that'd be great too. Again thanks for su much value on this video. Blessings

[@living_in_latam]

thank you so much for tuning in. Always appreciated.

[@JCADentalCR]

There's a lot of accurate information stated here regarding CR. However, many of the cons you pointed out really only pertain to your decision in living in Tamarindo which is a beach and very far from the metropolitan area. That's why you faced so many outages, saw the terrible roads, not so promising gyms, etc. I think what you're looking for is a beach vibe location where the cost of living is better than living in the US yet also benefits from numerous commodities and yes, that being the case would explain why you preferred Panama which I would agree is more convenient. The closest alternative I would have suggested without you having to actually leave CR would have been moving to Jaco. However, Jaco has gotten pricy over the years and crowded just like Tamarindo as well so yes, Panama is a good choice...just missing the beautiful beaches that CR has.

[@living_in_latam]

Well said. I tried out Jaco, but much preferred Manuel Antonio along that coast. Thank you for your comment.

[@maricharoargote6041]

Panama has many beautiful beaches just not in the city.

[@living_in_latam]

@ yes agreed.

[@aidanflynncarey7950]

Do you recommend Panama City over Playa Del Carmen or Merida for expats/nomads in their 20s?

[@edgardomunoz2688]

I consider, Taboga Island the best place with a natural and clean beach near to Panamá City. You can took a ferry from Isla Perico on Causeway to the island. There is a complete different sensation and vibes compare to the city and from there a really good view of the skyline, the ships moving to Panamá Canal and of course the experience to be on a pacific island.

[@living_in_latam]

Yes Tobago is good but I prefer the Pearl Islands on that side or San Blas but ends up being quite the drive.

[@TruthInspector]

ick

[@TruthInspector]

I was just there and it was very disappointing

[@MarcelaR-dh1ok]

Bingo...Well done. As an old former navy officer, I've been living in LatAm since the 80s. First Arrived CR in 1991, and LOVED it. I'd been to over 40 countries but CR was something else. The climate in the Central Valley, the people, the incredible COL, and San Jose streets were nearly deserted as the boomers had yet to arrive in numbers.... Moved the family to Rohrmoser where 3 ex-CR presidents lived. Purchased a furnished 2-story townhouse...52,000$ By 2008 the US had started printing dollars and the COL in CR was climbing. By 2011 expats were obligated to participate in the caja...the national health system where some of the doctors had been convicted for ..... .......... The CR gov would just pick a number such as 500$ a month and you, the expat, had no recourse for something you had no intention of using. That of course was the idea...just another method to take from the expat. Along with when selling your property and wiring funds back home to the US....CR takes a 15% tax. Another expat tax is on luxury homes. There is a high arsenic content in the tap water.....some have turned green due to that water and worse. Journalistic Integrity....google Parmenio Medina...he told the truth and paid the price. Annual vehicle inspection...colonoscopy is more pleasant... The local attorneys have a nasty habit of retitling property etc, etc... Moved south in 2011, but I still love the CR and that era.

[@living_in_latam]

well said!

[@marvinsanchezmora4876]

Amigo. No sea mentiroso, el agua de grifo en Costa Rica está monitores y es totalmente saludable.

[@MelissaCarson-j1d]

Get out of Panamá City! There are many Panamas ! People are very friendly. Airport in David as well as the capital. Small airports all over!

[@living_in_latam]

yes lots of Airports throughout Panama. Small. Panama Air from Albrook flies to Pedasi, David, Bocas and Boquete.

[@GLPEnglish]

Very well laid out video. Well done Jesse

[@living_in_latam]

Thank you!

[@rotorairgroup8409]

Finally someone say it like it is.

[@living_in_latam]

lol thanks

[@rocharocha8199]

Costa Rica is not perfect. You sound as if Panama were perfect

[@living_in_latam]

@@rocharocha8199 no where is perfect. Some Places you call home, still aren’t perfect. There will always be flaws. Panama for me, as I said In the video is good for me.

[@rotorairgroup8409]

The difference is huge. Perfection doesn't exist but Panama is in a different level. Has strong advantages in safety and being a financial hub it's easier to do business, taxes are very low, has flexible immigration laws etc. ​@rocharocha8199

[@MarcelaR-dh1ok]

You are discussing funding via an ATM. I quickly purchased a condo in Rohrmoser, and a Toyota Land Cruiser wo problem. I merely went to the American Express office in San Jose and received AmEx traveler's checks in 1000$ denominations....

[@living_in_latam]

Yes But San Jose is a 4 Hour Drive away. I'm talking coastal Costa Rica

[@TSBye-qo1vc]

Travelers Checks? Are you a time traveler from 1985? 🤔

[@gui0917]

hi man question for you , im planning of moving out of Montreal maybe 2-3 year left here , are you revoking all the canadien benefit like your note canadien anymore ? thx

[@living_in_latam]

Yes, I still have the Canadian passport, but not the healthcare.

[@gui0917]

@ with your situation to keep the passport do you still pay tx on your income to canada ?

[@gui0917]

@@living_in_latam with your situation to keep the passport do you still pay tx on your income to canada ?

[@living_in_latam]

@ I’m still a Canadian citizen, but giving up residency - you pay an exit tax and don’t get health care that you wait for for 6 months, and some other perks.

[@eduardookeeffe5205]

Costa recicla in costa del este and other recycle business located at a multiplaza corner, thanks for visiting Panamá

[@living_in_latam]

This is a great sign of things to come.

[@kellingtonlink956]

Impressive insights. Thanks for the video.

[@living_in_latam]

your very welcome

[@georgemelcher]

Look I lived in Quepous for a year and a half, great time great people, moving to Bocas del toro real soon, have did so much research, can't wait to and meet Panamanian people, I'm gringo, don't wan to me Grigos, Moving to learn, and embrace another culture. And to learn to speak Spanish. People seem awesome. God willing, it works out.

[@living_in_latam]

Bocas has a lot of tourists. But Amazing and a lot of fun. If your wanting to meet more locals coastal, further away from the City centre in Bocas, and if your wanting to go to Bocas for the surf and Culture, there isn't much like it but past Venao on the other side has a lot of that.

[@mariagonzales2833]

Què esperas venir a vivir pronto?😀😁

[@TruthInspector]

A lot of trash in the water around bogus again disappointing

[@dovygoodguy1296]

Is there better recycling and less trash pollution in Medellin or even Pereira?

[@living_in_latam]

Yes there is in Medellin.

[@LornaRasmussen-k6e]

The problem was you were living in Tamarindo. I live in a relatively expensive place, Atenas, but I don’t experience much of the downside. You can find what you need if you look.

[@living_in_latam]

Yes i know Atenas well. more inland. But prefer being close to the beach.

[@CindyRutnik-xv2hk]

Hi. What do you think about beach front villa rental investment in Panama? Is the return there? Are you able to meet up this week in Panama? Thanks. Hope to hear from you

[@living_in_latam]

Hi Cindy, I actually just left Panama. I know of two agents that I trust, That work on the different beaches. Do you happen to know which beaches your looking at?

[@truthseeker9454]

I just found this so I'm getting here late. Thanks for sharing your perspective, and giving us some numbers. Very helpful! I'll check out the one you have pinned below next. Happy New Year to you, brother!

[@living_in_latam]

Happy New Year! If you need anything, just message away.

[@scubamarilu]

I'm panamanian, I lived in Playas del Coco for a month, I loved it, people are so friendly, but cost of living is way too high compare to Panama.

[@living_in_latam]

It is. I just spent a month in CR. It hit the pocket book if your not making colones.

[@nellandris4176]

Are you comparing apples with oranges, Tamarinda with the capital?

[@living_in_latam]

Panama City Vs. San Jose
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E Bocas Del Toro vs. Tamarindo
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=LcczPMZE6A_9h-1E

[@misterniceguy67]

Tamagringo does not really reflect Costa Rica. San Jose vs Panama city would have been a better comparison. Estheticly, Panama is the winner, but once you get to know the central valley of CR, and the temperate climate, it is a great place to live. As for cost, the Canadian dollar is now around 300 colones. You need three of those to buy a coffee at the local bakeries. Even that, you can still live there for as little as USD $700 comfortably unless you have drinking problems. I lived in San Jose for couple of years post covid, my rent was about USD $320 - $400 (depending on the exchange rate), about a mile from the city centre, close to everything you will ever need. My electric bill was $30 maximum and WIFI was included in the rent. We had high-speed fiber optic internet, faster than what I was getting from Bell or Rogers. Only a single time in two and half years we experience a power outage for about an hour max.

[@living_in_latam]

Yes i already did that kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@living_in_latam]

that's also good to know about San Jose & the colones. When i was there last it was 520 to the USD. Seems to be going down.

[@RR-gv1fr]

E Panama è meglio di san José

[@michaelblake4997]

I'm looking for a more rural setting. Any thoughts?

[@living_in_latam]

where are you thinking? Have you looked at Boquete?

[@RDBean]

@michael, non tourist area? Try Cocle provence, low crime, nice people

[@RDBean]

@michael, not rain forest, a bit drier, low mountains, decent beaches

[@hermitcard4494]

Visit Chiriquí province, highlands: Boquete(many foreigners living there), mountains, nature, cool weather, close to the highest point in Panamá, mamy bilingual locals, most bilingual business, close to Bocas del Toro. Also Volcán and Cerro Punta which is on the other side of the volcano is another new tourist area and also the farm land of the country. Also they're close to Costa Rica.

[@hermitcard4494]

Also Boquete and Volcan are close to thermal ponds.

[@fgafootball]

How about language? Is English commonly understood or spoken in Panama?

[@living_in_latam]

Commonly no. Your in Latin America, so obviously Español is the main language. But you can get by in certain neighbourhoods.

[@kylegrant9980]

Rich areas everyone speaks english.

[@jimmyalvarez8262]

Panama #1 🇵🇦🤙🏾

[@rocharocha8199]

Escazú, Santa Ana, Curridabat, Nunciatura, Heredia Atenas, Grecia, San Ramón, Turrialba are places that should be explored in Costa Rica.

[@living_in_latam]

Yes I plan to explore more and do more comparisons.

[@lauralane4316]

I'm 65 and from Canada and live primarily in the Grecia and San Ramon surrounding areas when I'm there only because that is where my Costa Rican boyfriend (in his 50's) lives. It is central i.e. not near any water, and there is nothing appealing about those 2 areas unless you love passing by car repair shop after car repair shop etc for kilometers. I'm interested in knowing why in the world you would recommend that tourists go to most of the areas/towns you mentioned?!?

[@ajev5698]

@@lauralane4316 Que alguien le responda, por favor.

[@living_in_latam]

@@lauralane4316 generally speaking most tourists visit those areas. It’s not only me. The stats prove it. That’s why added it. A lot of foreigners in those areas.

[@yunggunz3000]

Puerto Viejo is my favorite place. Of at least the caribean side. So many beaches along the route to Manzinillo

[@oofyrog]

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[@living_in_latam]

yes of course. I have a good one Contact me on WhatsApp [phone] or email: [e-mail]

[@g01white]

Great video.

[@living_in_latam]

thanks !

[@ChimpsAI]

Your videos are making me lean toward SE Asia.

[@living_in_latam]

lol

[@stoneybrew]

@living_in_latam Thank you so much for your channel. I am strongly considering a retirement relocation to Panama from Hawaii due to the difference in cost of living and obvious quality of life upgrade on a living budget of $5k per month US. Question: How are the beaches in Coronado for swimming etc? Is the water clean? Second question: Are the women friendly towards US ex-pats?

[@living_in_latam]

Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoy it. To answer your questions, Coronado, doesn't have much of a beach. I would look at Playa Caracol as it has white sand beaches and yes the water is clean to swim in. In Coronado without a beach the water is quite intimidating and that is why you don't see anyone swimming in it. Second question, knowing a bit of spanish helps anywhere in Latin America. I always say you get what you put into it. If your friendly, and try a little. Everyone not only spanish speaking women respect that.

[@stoneybrew]

@@living_in_latam Thanks a million

[@orlandomexodus]

Do you were able to open a Bank account in Panama with out being a resident?

[@living_in_latam]

Yes I did. I had to show a year lease and show that I was invested in the country. ( Staying there)

[@Java62PR]

Costa Rica was affordable ....20 years ago...then they started milking tourist for everything....you even have to pay to LEAVE !!! Tamagringo food prices are not any cheaper than Miami..... the ride from Liberia , wow , what a mess ..... but i was smart ...i took a free ride in exchange for a 'Vacation Club " presentation..... we were held hostage for 8 hours ...my wife wanted to kill me ....then they told us the price .....$98,000 !!! by the time we left it was $8,800...... our friends had their home completely emptied twice when they left for a extended period of time in Tamarindo...... like movers came and took Everything ! we will try Panama for two months in September ...hopefully it will be a great experience .

[@living_in_latam]

the ride from Liberia, Yeah that is sky high at times.

[@kb1916]

I appreciate your honest opinions. This is very informative and supports other information I have found about both countries. It seems like Costa Rica is kind of overblown. How would you compare your feeling about crime in both countries? I have been to Belize and Mexico (Mexico many times) and would like to check out Panama. I no longer feel safe in Mexico.

[@living_in_latam]

There is a ton of people that are worried about crime and safety down here. But when was the last time you heard about a Canadian or American issue? Back home I would hear about a homicide or a robbery daily. Never hear about it here. I rarely hear of Home invasions in both places. Because you are more aware you just stick to your places like you do wherever you are from.

[@yvesdorleans1873]

If I wanted a beachfront home 3 bedroom, 2 bathrooms costs rica or Panama?

[@living_in_latam]

That's very vague. That's like me asking you, Malibu, California vs. Bend, Oregon. Could you give me some more details? Location? New build? Older build?

[@jasonl9266]

I want to set up an airbn b business . What are your thoughts about that ?

[@living_in_latam]

It depends where. That's a very vague statement. Costa Rica? Panama? There are different rules in different areas. Can you please give a bit more detail?

[@reinadelmar11]

Hi. Very useful but you seem to be comparing Tamarindo, a smallish beach community to a major city. I am sure that Panama City is more up to date and convenient than San Jose but what about if you are living out in the countryside or a beach town in Panama? Do you feel that the power grid, roads, prices etc are as good in the countryside as the city? Sad about the litter and lack of environmental awareness. Same here in Cleveland.

[@living_in_latam]

watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@living_in_latam]

As an expat, I was comparing the areas an expat goes, as San Jose the capital city of Panama hasn't been a very popular expat destination. Not compared to Tamarindo.

[@reinadelmar11]

@@living_in_latam Gotcha :)

[@juliocesarcastillo6283]

In Panama you can withdraw $500 per transaction at any ATM, if you need $1000 just do it twice. Welcome to Panama!

[@living_in_latam]

true, but not all bank machines.

[@georgemelcher]

Good morning, have a question for you, where do compare Bocas to ,Joco, Quepos, or Manual Antonio, ? moving to bocas in November, hopefully Basmatiso ,sorry for spelling, early here. Thanks for getting back.

[@living_in_latam]

Do you mean how do you compare Bocas to Jaco, Quepos or Manuel Antonio? Well I couldn't compare: 1. Jaco to any of those. Jaco is the biggest city on the west coast of Costa Rica. 2. Bocas is developed where as Manuel Antonio is kept more rural with tons of wildlife. But they are all in the same part of the world only a few hundred kms away from each other, so very similar in a way. More surf in Bocas as it's on the carribean side.

[@gordondalrymple7644]

$800 a month is good for San Francisco , I pay a bit less for a 2 bedroom build 15 years ago

[@living_in_latam]

yeah it was a good deal. Probably more expensive now,

[@lesswillmorepower]

You seriously cannot compare living in Tamarindo to living in Panama City. Apples to oranges. I am in Nunciatura in Costa Rica. I also have property in Bijagua. I am a citizen now. You are 100% correct with banking and automobiles. But where I live the internet, electricity and roads are fine. It is ridiculously expensive in CR. I just went to the only place I know to get Greek yogurt and it is 14 to 16 dollars for a tub. Back in the States, it's about 6.50. I just got back from Chile. The groceries there are way less expensive and the variety is way better! The autos in CR are ridiculously expensive. I have had excellent experiences with private Healthcare in CR. The people in CR are really friendly and helpful. Way different from the Panamanians I have encountered. Panama city compared to San Jose weather wise is night and day. Pc is hot AF. I cant tolerate that heat. Pros and cons in each country.

[@living_in_latam]

This video is 6 months old. From here I have created these as a follow up. Panama City Vs. San Jose
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E Bocas Del Toro vs. Tamarindo
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=LcczPMZE6A_9h-1E

[@paolowright6420]

Things you say about Panama relate to our Capital! However, "your" Costa Rica was not the Gran Area Metropolitana of Costa Rica, but out of the way Tamarindo!

[@living_in_latam]

The goal of the video was to share where North Americans would travel to. Not many go to San Jose and stay there.

[@crisremr6894]

​@@living_in_latama lot of North Americans move an live in Escazú, Santa Ana, Heredia or Curridabat too, thinking people just go to live in coastal areas is a bit misleading more if we're talking about a diverse city as San José

[@MarkDunn-v9v]

Costa Rica is more stable and has better education.

[@living_in_latam]

says who?

[@tropikietis]

⁠@@living_in_latam well actually, I have refrained from asking you “says who” in some of your own claims, which frankly seem opinionated and unsubstantiated. But if you need to ask, Costa Rica ranks 29 in the global stability index, whereas Panama ranks 85. I invite you to research a bit more on the subject.

[@tracyjohnson4139]

Panama has some of the latest cars on the road

[@CindyRutnik-xv2hk]

Playa Coronado/Caracol Was wondering if investing in vacation rentals are worth it.

[@living_in_latam]

I would say yes. Coronado is where you will find a lot of older expats. Mainly a retiree community. There is a new development there, but it's inland. I believe you want the beach, there is beach, but most of the beach in Coronado is either a Condo or stand alone homes. All built 10 or more years ago. Playa Caracol is new. Not super expensive and has a ton of options behind it. Depending if your wanting a pre-construction for 3 years from now or right now. Lots of options. The developer also has a great track record. Caracol just delivered their flagship Surfside hotel, which comes with amenities and they are building a village with everything that you will need so you don't need to go into the city.

[@DanielLopez-fb6fb]

You’re comparing Tamarindo vs Panama City. What did you expect? You said it there, it is a 8thousand people town vs a global city such as Panama City

[@living_in_latam]

This is why I created this: ( Panama City Vs. San Jose
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E Bocas Del Toro vs. Tamarindo
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=LcczPMZE6A_9h-1E

[@OctavioDeLeon-fi8dj]

San Blas, Panama has the best beaches in Latin America. 3 hrs.from Panama City and Taboga Island, 2p min. ferry ride from Panama City

[@living_in_latam]

Have you been to Bocas Del Toro, Santa Catalina or Venao. I like the Pearl Islands too.

[@TruthInspector]

Unfortunately their full day trips to do any of those how much is a waste of time and which makes Costa Rica better

[@TurboRocket326]

How do you sell real estate in Panama if you haven’t lived there for 5 years… licensed realtor in USA looking to move to Panama 🇵🇦

[@living_in_latam]

Who said anything about not living in Panama for 5 years? I have residency in Panama. But I also travel all over latin america as I own a company that helps real estate agencies and developers grow on KZbin and I give my leads to my clients.

[@living_in_latam]

I was literally there 2 weeks ago.

[@JR-mo8os]

@@living_in_latam He is asking for himself, re-read the comment.

[@living_in_latam]

@@JR-mo8os You may need affiliations and a lot of interested investors from where your from, I would guess. Couldn’t really tell you.

[@keithjacobs8297]

Alot of growth and development in Panama City going on. Upscale developments in and around the city, and beach areas. Higher end restaurant groups expanding into the area. Quickly becoming the Miami of Panama. Prices are going up of course in the city. Still a fraction of Miami. Depends on lifestyle you are looking for, and your budget. If you want less cost of living, less bling and hustle and bustle then plenty of coastal areas 90 minutes to 5 hours outside the city, less expensive. Or Boquete, or interior. Something for everyone!

[@living_in_latam]

well said, thank you for the comment.

[@kevinhenault434]

Comparing Tamarindo to Panama City is a bit of a stretch. Tama just got new pavement from Pacific Residences all the way through to Villareal. Its a surf town not a city, but, they are making improvements. The banking system is horrible though, no argument there. The town has just been overrun by wealth and is no longer inexpensive. Same story in any desirable local nowadays.

[@living_in_latam]

I was comparing it because it's where a lot of expats live. This can help you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@marley5874]

From Pañama City to the airport is $30 the last time I flew 4 years ago. And you can withdraw $500 a day from ATM. So not 100% accurate.

[@guillermogouldburn763]

The metro goes all the way to the airport for jut 80 cents.

[@living_in_latam]

But this was 4 years ago, no? Things have changed a bit. I literally caught an Uber from Punta Pacifica to the airport for $12 USD 3 weeks ago.

[@living_in_latam]

Also Canadian banks only allow a min withdraw limit. If I use my Banistmo I can withdraw $500. But the base of the video is people who don't have banks here yet.

[@living_in_latam]

Yeah And it's great.

[@dougscott188]

A taxi will be $30 but I was in Panama in March and it is $12-13 to Tocumen from financial district. Uber is your friend. I never pay more than $15 to the airport.

[@AnaElizondo-ng6wm]

Tamarindo is not Costa Rica. You can not compare it with the rest of the country.

[@living_in_latam]

Why I left Costa Rica for Panama. Not comparing the whole country to Panama.

[@sandybrown7730]

1. It's not fair to compare Tamarindo to Panama City. (One is a surf village, another is a major metro hub) 2. Most of your money/car/housing problems could be solved. For example, 10 min ago, I withdrew $1k USD cash at Tama's Automercado and paid $3 in fees for it. Did it for years - not a single time had a problem. But, I do agree about food (variety and taste!), housing costs, infastructure (though, it has improved in Tama dramatically) and business culture: Panama wins - no contest!

[@living_in_latam]

before you comment, please go to the top of the comments. This video is pinned to the top as a follow up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@robertochu5337]

when it comes to cars in panama everyone have a car and is a must to, cars have same prices as american cars basically, we do not have this high fees for cars as costa rica does, when it comes to the beach yea we do not use the beach of the city yet, its been clean because of bad infrastructure in the past which all the waste was going into the water from paitilla, if you drive to flamenco you can use that beach which is 5 min from cinta costera and all other beaches are clean as well

[@living_in_latam]

Wasn't the waste going into the water in the are between San Francisco & Punta Pacifica? Yes the beach isn't far, I plan to do more videos explaining where the beaches are in Panama to line up to this video. It's just the first. Thank you for commenting

[@living_in_latam]

In the city I know a lot of expats that don't have cars. They use Ubers, or professional transport. Plus there is the new Metro line that isn't far off as well. So transport is getting there.

[@kylegrant9980]

@@living_in_latam Yeah I lived there for 3 years never owned a car. Ubers are so cheap and the city is walkable.

[@mozisgoingplaces]

Although I agree on certain things, like the banking issues, the problem is that you are comparing a small city in Costa Rica, to the capital of Panama. It is not a fair comparison. For instance, the infrastructure of the internet or electric grid is not the same in San Jose or Escazu compared to Tamarindo, a costal small town for tourism.

[@living_in_latam]

I'm guessing you haven't been to my channel. Or went to the top where the comment is pinned with a follow up video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E

[@jeff_costarica]

Living here in CR and something was wrong with your banking experience for sure . Not like that for me at all . Also took me 5 1/2 from beginning of the process to received the email that i was now a resident ( rentista ) so basically 60k in a bank account and thats it . Here you need to know the right people to make it easy thats for sure

[@living_in_latam]

I was dealing with a very good lawyer and knew a lot of great people there. Sometimes things just aren't meant to be. The same lawyer told me things had changed 4 months after I left. Nothing I could do.

[@jenniferlonglites]

I lived in CR for 15 years, had a food forest farm in the southern zone near Panama (lived in Santa Cruz de La Sierra Bolivia and different parts of Mexico). I'm interested in Cartagena, Colombia as an investment property to rent out and use when I visit. I live in the states now. Where do retirees that are American expats live in Cartagena mostly? (which neighborhood?) Mil gracias!

[@living_in_latam]

in Cartegena, Not sure. will have to ask my contacts. We're primarily in Panama City, Bogota & Medellin.

[@barcoavenusnovela4936]

Cuál es el estilo literario de la novela Barco a Venus?

[@living_in_latam]

No estoy seguro que es

[@miroslavamillerwaite3228]

Panamá Is a Paradise very beautiful AND quite.god.

[@living_in_latam]

Both are amazing

[@thaniamoore7353]

I miss read your earlier reply and misinterpreted your message, sorry 😅I've out in my glasses now. To answer your question, the coasts of Colón are amazing, and I'd never had any issues with connection living there. Also Veraguas, Azuero and Chiriquí apart from the obvious Bocas. In the istmus, but the archipielagos are just dreamy.

[@living_in_latam]

totally. And no worries. Thank you for your suggestions.

[@living_in_latam]

What questions do you have about either Costa Rica or Panama?

[@12567NoYouCannot]

That was too much Rent in Costa Rica, I don't know WHY people even Go there.

[@rocharocha8199]

Panama is also expensive

[@khayeelwilson-el5370]

I’m retired on SS. Would you suggest renting or buying first when moving to Panama? Is there a similar process to purchase property there like it is in the U.S.?

[@kylegrant9980]

@@khayeelwilson-el5370 Always rent. For the first year and figure out the place, get to know people.

[@TruthInspector]

Is there anywhere to go in Panama where the water is not polluted or there's not trash because I thought I was going to be moving to bocas and it's full of trash

[@ThePHCHIEF]

$12 to the airport at Albrook $35 to $40 to the main Tocumen airport

[@living_in_latam]

Depends on Timing. Early morning (5am, no traffic) yes $12 to albrook. Can be as low as $18 now. But ideally $23 or so. With Traffic yes $35 at the highest I've seen it.

[@marccoulombe2874]

After watching this video I'm second guessing moving from Canada to Costa Rica. My wife has health issues which require certain and somewhat costly medication. Guess I'll have to do some research on Panama.

[@living_in_latam]

A better hospital situation and a lot more i find are retiring there.

[@JORGEGOMEZ-pd3me]

YOU CAN GO TO TABOGA ISLAND,SABOGA,CONTADORA¡¡¡¡¡

[@living_in_latam]

Yes you can. Love the pearl islands.

[@venturebeats7224]

$1100 - $1300 is way too expensive there are places WAY cheaper in America.....I guess your getting more for your money but still that is NOT cheap

[@living_in_latam]

yeah exactly.

[@philipfitch3238]

You are talking about Panama City compared to the Guanacaste region, which is like podunk. If you live in Escazu or Santa Ana in the San Jose region, it's better than Panama City.

[@living_in_latam]

Panama City Vs. San Jose
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9E Bocas Del Toro vs. Tamarindo
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=LcczPMZE6A_9h-1E

[@luzmariabatista979]

Creo que la comparacion no es acertada, lo seria si fuera entre ciudades, pero, estás comparando un pueblo de playa de Costa Rica vs la ciudad de Panamá. Panamá tambien tiene buenos pueblos playeros y está a unas 2 horas en carro de las playas. Saludos!

[@living_in_latam]

Sí, ese ha sido un comentario similar al anterior, así que creé otros videos para responder esto: Comparando las dos capitales: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLVpIaOfrSri9Esi=j9-pwZ_bWWmHdcKl Comparación de pueblos costeros populares kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLQZHmIo9aHhqssi=kxteR2VZpAVqWhdb

[@RickyRicardoFilms]

No way ! I leave CR for another Central American neighbor country as its basically the same games with different names

[@living_in_latam]

well said. Same game with different names. haha

[@jdelgadocr]

I am from and live in CR. The government owned banks sucks. To me the only one worth trying is the private bank BAC San Jose and their ATMs. I see you have a video on SJ vs Panama city. Comparing Tamarindo to Panama is not fair as Tamarindo is a US-expat beach town and Panama city is the country capitol. I'm not defending Tamarindo either: that rent in Tamarindo is a complete rip-off and the locals growth with that mindset. Even I sometimes wonder about moving elsewhere. 😵‍💫

[@living_in_latam]

Yeah I created a follow up video SJ to PTY. which is a more direct comparison. But I created Tamarindo to PTY not because of size, but where foreigners mostly go. A lot of expats in Tamarindo ask me about PTY.

[@misterniceguy67]

BAC San Jose charges 3500 colones fees for each withdrawal. Is the most expensive ATM.

[@PaulweizW]

Too expensive, and the quality of the destination is very low. It’s one of the places I would never return to; I felt scammed.

[@living_in_latam]

Which? Panama or Costa Rica?

[@PaulweizW]

@living_in_latam Costa Rica.

[@PaulweizW]

Costa Rica is very expensive, lacks infrastructure, public healthcare is degrading, housing costs are absurd, and I found it unsafe. The country is too expensive for the quality it offers.

[@maletu]

Comparing a village to a capital city.... hmmm.

[@living_in_latam]

How does San Jose compare to Panama City, When it comes to expats moving from North America?

[@TruthInspector]

i wanted to live in Panama.... looking to relocate and everything around Panama in the water is polluted and constantly ditching dog poop on sidewalk, and full of trash the water included I would never go to Panama. And for me the reality is it's all about the water so if you go to Panama you're just looking at a beautiful nice Ocean View but it's utterly polluted and you can't even swim in it or walk along the shore so what's the point. That's what makes Costa Rica outstanding

[@living_in_latam]

yes Costa Rica is amazing. And yes in the city it is polluted but as you go up the coast towards Costa Rica There is some beautiful swimming destinations in Panama.

[@amahuri]

I think you are too recent for living in Panamá, there are a lot of nature, white sand beaches, mountains and adventures all over the country. We don’t need a beach in the City almost all builidngs have pools, and we have beaches 15 minutes away and lots of them in both oceans. You just have to catch it up for our way of living, the Rest is all benefits from over all other latin amarican countries! 😊

[@djtarts]

But you're comparing Tamarindo (a super small town) to Panama City (a capital city with millions of people). Totally ridiculous comparison.

[@magoel78]

Costa Rica is facing a big problem with gentrification. Other countries also with no legislation on foreigners buying land will get it soon. Im glad you loved CR and tourists will always be welcomed, but yes, there are better countries to live in. 🙏🏻

[@wardhead2009]

ATM are 1K every 24h

[@living_in_latam]

But I took out $2k. $4k total for the car

[@gif24gt60]

Heard electricity in panama city will knock ur socks off with the AC😮

[@living_in_latam]

It's not that bad, but it's like that everywhere.

[@edwardmacnab354]

you were paying gringo prices in costa rica--you needed a local middleman friend to deal with locals

[@living_in_latam]

I have many Costa Rican Amigos and theses were just the going rates

[@rocharocha8199]

There are better prices in Atenas, Grecia, San Ramon, zona de low santos, Escazú, Santa Ana

[@georgemelcher]

Thank you

[@living_in_latam]

your very welcome

[@wanderingmage]

First of all, this is your opinion based on your experience and I respect that. I feel you are missing a few important statements. Nohing you say strikes me as false, but misleading. You are comparing Panama City, the capital, with Tamarindo/Guanacaste…. A mostly rural place that cant cope with the demand for services because of intense recent influx of foreigners.

[@living_in_latam]

Hi @wanderingmage , Yes I have responded to this with videos comparing Panama City to San Jose, Tamarindo to Bocas Del Toro and more like it coming to keep everyone happy.

[@pedrowilliamsolorzanoarena4167]

Las playas en Panamá son mucho mejores que las de Costa Rica, y las he recorrido todas el señor debe recorrer las playas en Panamá y puedes ir a una playa en Pacífico y el mismo día a una en el Atlántico.

[@living_in_latam]

He estado en muchas playas en Panamá y Costa Rica. Yo diría que ambos países tienen países realmente buenos. Santa Teresa por ejemplo en CR. Crearé contenido nuevo comparando muchas de esas playas para mostrárselas a la gente. Gracias por tu mensaje.

[@mikkybee10]

Can you do a comparison with Mexico?

[@living_in_latam]

Coming soon. Working on other content for Mexico as we speak.