MOYA POLITICAL SERIES EP 3: ANDILE MNGXITAMA,MAHASHA RAMPEDI,PRINCE MASHELE

A look at SA Politics in this election year. An engagement with Andile Mngxitama, Mahasha Rampedi, and Prince Mashele about the land.
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[@nomangalisonomkhala2325]

Prince was exposed that he is empty here. Mahasha and Mngxithama saved this conversation. It's great to see that we still have great minds such as Mahasha

[@Mabhanti]

Rampedi and Mngxitama are chewing this Prince chap🔥🔥

[@thembanimgenu190]

Really, am sure I missed that podcast this one Piet Rampedi had loads of time for nothing, I really don't see his contribution honestly, Mngxitama can come back to his usual self.

[@lungisamsutu8353]

Not really

[@eugenendaba5244]

Those two cannot be compared to Prince...he is far_far superior than those two Zuma's praise singers

[@kgopotsomashile9851]

wow this Mahasha guy is a damn good anylist and nuetral guy...very smart

[@faladimabaso6584]

He calmly responds to Prince who his responses are emotional and regurgitate the eNCA, News24 nonsense.

[@thapelolitlhakanyane9060]

Neutral guy😂😂😂😂😂

[@sifisoj.h.mkhize9012]

I love the independance of Mahasha and the intelligence he displays in his engagements, very sober and objective analysis.

[@Nhlanhla187]

Intelligence 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bhatindlovu42]

In pan africanist mindset it doesn't Metter how bad you're doing as long as you're black you're not bad.The bad person in their mindset is a white man only. Whites never stole land. We were defeated in a battle. Whites defeated us 7s that's why we don't have the land.

[@khotsomahlobo3830]

I can listen to Andile the whole day

[@phumelelomthimude8082]

Me too 😂

[@Mafikizolo-ft8qi]

Thanks Ntsiki but we needed at least 2 hours for this episode. This was good for South Africans. We love you💕✊

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Donate donate donate my loves

[@thabomodau8817]

I really enjoyed this one , big ups Andile and Rampedi for being honest land gives respect and dignity

[@jpmofokeng9720]

ANDILE MNGXITAMA is the voice of power!

[@mtethowilliams6854]

Rampedi thank you for your contribution bro.

[@kgopotsomashile9851]

powerhouse this guy

[@kgotlaetsilemodieginyane7491]

Mahasha 10 out of 10. A lot to take from what he said. He owned the topics as were introduced.

[@fredbantu3694]

Prince is employed so he is speaking for his supper. Andile is good as usual

[@tshepomagubane9718]

I can't thank you enough sis Ntsiki, I can firmly say this was the health, therapeutic and good for all South Africans. Please don't spoil this good session, round two is a must please 🙏🙏 Sis you asked a question and they didn't respond to it about western Cape.

[@sabathaboyana9742]

Andile's closing remarks💪 this guy is well informed

[@noziphotshabalala5018]

I love Mahasha Rampedi’s temperament, very calm. I also appreciate that he put South Africa’s situation into a global context because many people don’t see how our issues are connected to those of other countries far away from us. These conversations can become emotional but I think it’s important to try not make it personal like Ntsiki said, attack the ideas, not the person.

[@sbonelomadonsela3456]

Rampedi is head and shoulders above his peers

[@fromazaniawithlove]

That's why he's enemy number 1 in journalism. They don't want journalists that actually care for black people.

[@DJSKORI]

Queen Ntsiki thank you for exposing this out of sorts Prince!!

[@njabulodladladladla4298]

Andile for President💪🏾♥️

[@ntsakoshiluvane9585]

We need part 2 of this episode, can't wait to see Mgxitama and Rampedi to force Prince to admit that White Monopoly Capital is an enemy of the economic transformation

[@Sweets66181]

I am more than convinced that Prince Mashele is a fool of note. How can he even think blacks should not unite.

[@melikhayamankayi1523]

Rampedi takes time to drive his point,by the time he finishes, youve already forgot what he started about.

[@khanyimabaso7008]

Prince Mashele is a write off! He is a reason why we say we need new Black people

[@eugenendaba5244]

You don't know what you're talking about... you're a small gossip girl

[@Mushlanga]

Prince is a disgrace. Andile Mngxitama needs to come back alone

[@user-ih5qb2wc2o]

Very sad he is just a clever black who doesn't believe in black power. He adores colonizers

[@sizwenyuka4739]

Comrade MNGXITAMA is clear.

[@mpetukhosa]

Mashasha is so impressive, he is a talented speaker. Even if you don't agree with him you would want to attentively listen to every word he mentioned.

[@jahgeneral1]

Blessup🤜🏿🤛🏿 MaMiya👑 They was right on spot and point seen. The centre of our revolution is the land indaba maan.

[@user-ks7bb8xx1d]

Thanks, Ntsiki, for orchestrating this gathering of three insightful Black men. I look forward to seeing a similar platform for Black intelligent females to discuss the enduring impact of our settler colonial legacy : ) Prince is accustomed to occupying spaces where white South Africans lend an ear to his promotion of anti-black violence. This time, however, he found himself in the company of Black intellectuals who were ready to scrutinize his perspectives. Mahasha aims to foster an intellectual debate grounded in facts rather than resorting to name-calling and insults. However, Mahasha's references to the "left" and "right" are somewhat irrelevant, considering South Africa's predominant focus on the preservation of racial capitalism rather than rigid political ideologies. Andile tends to be excessively theoretical and uncritical of Black(ness), a tendency that carries inherent dangers. This lack of critical examination on Andile's part inadvertently elevates Prince's standing in the discussion. Ntsiki's intervention at 35:13 was particularly noteworthy. The ongoing debate on land often seems regressive to me. The prospect of Black people reclaiming the land seems improbable, given the historical realities of settler colonialism globally. While the land discourse persists in South Africa and will likely extend into the next generation, it is unlikely to find a resolution due to its inherently irresolvable nature. This fixation on land also perpetuates a Western logic of racial capitalism rooted in land ownership, assuming that the formerly colonized must cultivate the land for economic prosperity. Andile's reasoning reflects this economic-centric approach to the land issue. The prevailing narrative suggests that land is central to the economic development of the oppressed, reinforcing a colonialist mindset rooted in Lockean philosophy and the concept of empire. However, what if we shift our focus from economic development to political consciousness? What if we prioritize culture and unite people around a vision where collective decisions shape the sustainability of their lives? These questions compel us to confront the realities of settler colonialism. In South Africa, we have Europeans who "came here to stay" and still maintain a European appearance. The recent racism during the conflict between Russia and Ukraine exemplified how the world, controlled by whiteness, rushes to protect white life. Consequently, any action to address the land issue in South Africa risks global condemnation. Andile rightly points out the issue of control in South Africa, emphasizing that it remains a predominantly white-controlled country. The land, symbolic of modern nationhood and racial capitalism, will likely persist in white hands. This is a facet that Prince overlooks; South Africa is not merely an extractive colony but a settler colony. Any attempt to improve Black lives threatens the very foundation of the settler colony, necessitating the continued dispossession of the colonized. This aspect of colonial dynamics sets South Africa apart from the comparisons made by Prince, as the threat to settler existence shapes a distinct form of colonialism in the country.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Lemme check 3513

[@SA4Peace2]

Finally the key principles of what needs to happen to advance our people are being discussed. This was rich and meaningful.

[@LebohangPonoane6346]

Sis Ntsiki. MOYA is on 🔥 👌🏻. The issue of cape town needs to be addressed and please include the coloureds in that content.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Noted

[@caesar3909]

What a stacked panel, this is going to be good.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

🥰🥰🥰

[@matomemanthata9719]

I thought that Prince Mashele is a fool but now I am convinced he’s a certified fool.

[@mbonambiphakamani5257]

Prince is a deputy white. He has been integrated by the system. We need to be cautious of him and his friend Herman Mashaba.

[@ZakheleMpungose-lq5qb]

This insightful, thank you Ntsiki

[@user-sm5pz2ep8w]

Mashele is telling the truth.What does ANC do to advance for black people?

[@sihlemondi6363]

Unfortunately black people who tell the truth ate labeled as sell outs and if a white person were to say the same thing she/he called racist. The default setting for black people is to cry racism and victimhood.

[@samorankente9161]

Ta Price bringing eNCA propaganda 😏, jonga Rampedi is mopping the floor ngo Ta Price

[@nhlanhlazondi4845]

Andile Mngxitama is an intellectual giant... Mahasha is the best black journalist in South Africa #VoteMK2024 🏹🏹🏹🏹

[@HarryHuma]

Intellectual? Do you know what that word means?😂😂😂😂

[@dilochetty9332]

Same guy who said a lady had 10 babies?

[@gasat1000]

Black people should unite for one common goal.

[@tsilisomotaung9146]

This Prince chap is PAP. How does he compare situation in South Korea with ours here while South Koreans own their Land and control their economy meanwhile thina lana emzansi those things are still controlled by colonizers. He thrives on half-truths like all other White Monopoly Capital proxies. Lovely content, Sthandwa❤️🖤💚

[@user-kp7bv2iu5t]

I know how he does it- The man is nothing but an educated fool. He must be ashamed of himself, in fact, he's one of those we must thrust their names in the history book of shame!

[@iss8504]

His point is that if you strip the land from whites and give it to blacks, it's not really going to change things. It might make a few blacks wealthy but that's it. South Koreans transformed their country thru education and tech. Look at Zimbabwe. Does SA really want that?

[@ShaunJulies]

Brilliant analysis Prince Mashele!

[@KabeloMaphoto-do1zt]

PRINCE YOU LIE TO YOUR SELF YOU DO CARE JUST LED BY FEAR AND DONT WORRY MY BROTHER YOU WILL BE STRONG AS TIME GOES

[@user-tl3pg1uw7m]

Sis Ntsiki thanks for your great guests Mahasa Rampedi and Andile Mgxitama.thank you.

[@olwethujezile1789]

Enkosi sisi wethu🫶🏾another real time historical lesson🇿🇦 Iyabulela iLali 🫶🏾❤🇿🇦

[@swz10]

I only came across this podcast on Twitter / X sometime today when someone shared Mngxitama's short clip. I will consume Moeletsi Mbeki's one next.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

🥰🥰🥰

[@Validated-nb1fv]

MK is coming for Prince😮

[@NtsikiMazwai]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@phuthegangmoleya7695]

Great conversation Ausi Ntsiki, both gentleman has shashala prince.... truth be told and accept it now things are changing and changing for the better majority lead by an old men surrounded by young plack lions

[@TheDialogue23]

Ntsiki, you know you should have made this episode at least 2 hours. This is not TV..... Great show. We demand part 2

[@NtsikiMazwai]

You know the donations and contributions will help us get longer episodes.....

[@habsonrungwe195]

Mamiya i found out only today that you have a podcast ….This is real progress for you and every black child in Africa,keep on pushing,we need new leaders 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Camagu

[@sphamandlamkhize4396]

Bring them back please ❤

[@okayway3371]

Mahasha Rampedi is the name!

[@siyabongantozini9472]

I think if these three guys intentionally focused on what is the problem in the country without labelling and attacking each other they would have found that they are agreed on 80% of the issues. Masha is very measured and sober, I must say.

[@KabeloMaphoto-do1zt]

thank you mr Mahasha FOR THE MEDIA OPENING EYES

[@ingamajola]

Sicela u part 2 or interviews with each one of the guests 🥺🙏🙏

[@dlaminis6]

Da moment anybody utters dat nonsense of Zuma selling our state to da Guptas I just know dat he/she is an airheaded individual, no cap!

[@fromazaniawithlove]

Prince is an influencer for white capital. He's paid to push that narrative and gaslight black people about our situation in this country. So now now fools on social media repeat those lies

[@NinohBrown]

Lol😂😂😂on ENCA, Newsroom, Biznews, State of the nation podcast Prince Mashele is a hero and one of the cleverest and brightest black people (Ngu Micheal Jackson) on the continent. Qha ulibele ba apha its not mainstream media its alternative media not scripted like these news channels. Akazu teketiswa apha

[@tebogomasenya358]

I always enjoy Prince and Andile sparring,good show.

[@user-kp7bv2iu5t]

Oh, its about good show for you, Brother? Well, you better stop enjoying no good show and start learning good stuff, Peace!

[@andilencapai295]

One can spot the ideological differences with the telling shaking of the leg of Andile which says a different picture 🖼️ to his introductory words...

[@zwelibanziyende8473]

A black young man referring to an elder as chap tells a lot about the kind of a person he is, whereas throughout this interview he has never referred to any white person in a demeaning manner. Rampedi and Andile did justice for us .

[@michaelsutton4205]

2:00 13:30 29:15 46:15

[@tebogoledwaba3737]

Thank u Andile, nice closing

[@umbukisobtv]

Part 2 please Ntsiki

[@asiphamandlamdlankomo958]

Ntsiki please invite Dr Iqbal Survé in this political series please🙏🏼

[@nkatekov]

Rampedi mopped Mashele with his traditional shirt, Mashele is just lost black soul, what a great debate and articulation from Mahasha Rampedi

[@Goi-l5x]

I saw traditional shirt and thought proud African…. Yoh. How wrong I was🤧😬🙂‍↔️

[@simphiwemkhatshwa6779]

"What the Koreans have done for themselves" (Prince's trip to South Korea seems to have been a waste if he has no clue about the USAs role in developing that country).

[@MsidosPodcast]

Prince Mashele is Getting better with Age

[@CoscorizerSA]

Piet Rampedi the BEST

[@thembstrella4581]

❤❤❤❤other are Mister and its the Bhuti for me

[@thapelolitlhakanyane9060]

When Prince narrated the South Korea Story, he paralysed even Piet to a point where he agreed with his sentiments. The problem with other two gentlemen is that they come from an environment where they personally benefited from ill gotten gains of those so called The Left. Piet from being made an editor of the newspaper that was given free money (5 billion) of black people’s pensions, to enjoy as they please. And Andile from the Guptas themselves whom he went to, to ask for money in exchange for him speaking good about them in every platform that he had access to. He was a marketing tool for the Guptas and even today he doesn’t want to bite the hand that fed him.

[@ngunzamorais6810]

This lady hosting the show is head over heels on andile and piets useless debate.seems like they planned to attack prince coz hes the only one who doesnt finish his comments.

[@kjj9568]

Amazing content always! But please sometimes it’s way too casual like not introducing the guests properly by giving a brief of their work or position… in what capacity are they on the show?

[@NtsikiMazwai]

No problem. Noted

[@lorddlangamandla1313]

❤❤❤🎉🎉❤uyi queen kodwa mhimhi

[@lungisamsutu8353]

I was hoping the host will eventually tell us which part of KZN is wealthy cause when they looted in 2021 July unrest we were told ppl are hungry.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

I apologize 🙏🏿

[@vuyondlovu1835]

@prince Mashele maybe you must not associate with such a circus ever, you live the realities and expirience of this country, we appreciate you 🙏🙏🙏

[@jmp4660]

Mahasha Rampedi, where are the Thembisa 10 children - how old are they now. You wrote about them when you were Piet.

[@busikhoza7903]

It's prince all the way, passionately critical of Zuma, how sad

[@siphodazela8979]

Good show Notsi I just love you my girl

[@SuzenMzi]

Mqitama u thengiwe vi MK.

[@oitsiaya468]

WhO's Mahasha Rampedi...? This guy is peating facts...

[@NtsikiMazwai]

It's Piet Rampedi the journalist

[@mosiamotubatsi2272]

Sis Ntsiki... Please invite Dr Lwazi Lushaba

[@NtsikiMazwai]

I need his contacts guys

[@lindokuhlekhumalo1683]

Love your initiative Ntsiki. You could have left Prince out of this one. We need to chart the way forward, this didn't need to be a debate.

[@DJSKORI]

Domkop Mashele yerrrrrrr!!!

[@katisotsotetsi6867]

It seems like andile has hit a nerve 😅.. Prince is boiling

[@azaniawaafrika5334]

Prince he's just speaking for himself for his privileges, he turn a blind eye to the struggles of black people.

[@user-sp3ik4eb6e]

After Mashaba s book saga ...Prince is just a script writer like those in tv😊

[@RealChefAde]

Rampedi💓💞

[@costaqwabe5683]

34:33 Tell them Prince tell them,, its time we let go of the Marcus Garvey and Fenon ideas ...it was for that time ...Lets forge our present day ideas....

[@noziphotshabalala5018]

New ideas need to be built on a solid foundation, we can’t build new ideas out of thin air. We need guidance from those who came before us. And the things they prophesied back than are happening exactly as they said.

[@ralebakamazibuko5574]

Prince mashile is the only one who spoke facts there Andile is usless guy

[@khubiratsatsi]

The two fellas ba'a mo tlhatlhamolla Prince today. Ayeye 😂😂😂😂

[@ThuIaniNgobeni]

Prince Mashele is the man.

[@SuzenMzi]

My great grant father had land but now belong to SA people.The tain station was built ther and many four rooms built .Who will pay me back or demolish everything

[@mathsoluxion9341]

I ain't sure about Prince's vocabulary. Is it a lack or just decided to be rude. Thanks Mahasha and cde Andile, with people like you, there's hope for our people. Sisi Ntsiki, uyibambe njalo and thanks for bringing us this convo. When is part 2?

[@15thGeneration-eb7zo]

Thembeka Ngcukaitobi🙏🏽🤲🏿

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Will try

[@AsipheMlungu-zg6qj]

Mahasa please don't call this prince guy your friend will you, because I've seen good neutral analyst like you executed by their so called friends in history for just not having the same perceptions on some things, Mr Andile mgxitama is always been my here I wouldn't even want to make any comments about him *respect kehla🙏🙏🙏

[@thembanimgenu190]

Mngxtama lied zisuka nje, mxxxmu. Everyone must just what Prince has written from way back, Andile is just a disappointment zisuka. Am not sure about the 10 babies guy from Thembisa hospital. There's no way you can talk about center right kanti awuthethi nge ANC. ANC was never about land or RET, otherwise why would we have Sobukhwe running away from it? Prince is the boss😅, he must educate these guys 😊, hayi nawe maMiya andisazi esi "stats" sithi black people are rich in KZN, yes there's black elites everywhere. How much time does Piet Rampedi needs to labour and hammer same point over and over again, may be Prince and Andile can be invited alone and him has his two hours alone.

[@NinohBrown]

Problem you want to define wealth according to 'capitalistic defination', how much money you have in the bank or what car you drive. Here we talking about wealth according to Land ownership, huge chunk of the land is owned by black people in KZN. Dont be one of those guys that think having 2 million in your bank account is wealth.

[@legran25]

I did not know what obsession is about farming! Land van be used for many things besides farming!

[@MfanufikileMthethwa-vw7qh]

Thanks Bru they think when we talk about land we only want to farm. Land owning brings dignity mft 🖤💚❤️

[@ngunzamorais6810]

Prince i take my hat off on tour analysis, these two chaps are nuts only know how to mock and talk white this ,white that.

[@naar_kie]

today i “learned” that the people of KZN are wealthy in South Africa

[@thandolwethumogweni5273]

Sisi wam xa une chance please invite Sifiso Mahlangu , Dr Ndlozi , Dr Pedro , Dr Lushaba , Prof Ramose and Prof Ruth Hall

[@NtsikiMazwai]

Noted....

[@ntuthukodlamini8687]

The lady takes sides, she couldn't answer which part of kzn has wealthy people and she is biased against prince

[@NtsikiMazwai]

I admit I was terrible 😅you're so right, I I to be more neutral. Damn it's so hard cos it gets so juicy. I will certainly work on that 🙏🏿thank you for your honest feedback....it strengthens me

[@ntuthukodlamini8687]

​@@NtsikiMazwaiok ma'am

[@GNK245]

​@@NtsikiMazwai this comment alone makes you gr8...🎉🎉🎉

[@thamsanqamashaba4515]

Mr Prince taken to the cleaners honestly had no corner to hide in

[@thabisomogoru956]

Your politics are weak

[@lungisamsutu8353]

Not really

[@ntebothipe1072]

Thnks Ntsili❤❤

[@apiwe_olota]

"The intellectual is very angry.."😂😂😂😂😂

[@NtsikiMazwai]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sihlesenkosindamane3275]

A number of things to note here. 1, i really feel the show should've been longer. 2, you gotta feel for this Prince chap, he seems like a lost soul. Defending whiteness. 3, The other two gentlemen were spot on, they smoked the guy, he stood no chance at all. Like he is not relevant here, maybe somewhere else where people tolerate whiteness and being coconut. 4, the host is sick bias 😂😂😂 couldn't stop nodding her head when Mgxi or Rampedi were articulating their points. 🙌😂 5, oh, and I'm a huge fan of Mngxitama. I love his political ideology, i learn a lot from him.

[@NtsikiMazwai]

The host ran away from this comment and is hiding 🤣🤣🤣