MOZA Racing Wheels - My First Impression

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Jardier

Jardier

Күн бұрын

As you guys requested here is Moza video! Moza was so nice to send me their base and two of their wheels (I only had to pay for import tax) for test.
My channel is not channel for reviews, I dont want it to become one, I like to test things, but there are way better people doing proper in depth reviews.
So my video is simple testing the base and wheel and giving my feedback how it feels to me. So please dont be rushing with things like "he hates it" or "loves it too much". I do these videos with personal use and my own taste! :)
There were for sure some positives and also some negatives.
R9 Base was most impressing to me, connection rod and base itself gave really good strength feedback to me. Installation was simple even though I had issue with usb and had to buy usb hub, but it might be my own issue, I dont know how to tell.
But overall I think tiny little tweaks and the base would be top job.
GS wheel I think is pretty good, buttons are most impressive and nice RGB, compare to what I use now (Fanatec V2.5) I think buttons were better quality but overall wheel felt a bit cheaper for way higher price as being sold, but it might be personal taste. For the price with tax and shipping I can almost get Simucube wheel or almost Gomez if I pay a bit more.
So here for me my V2.5 is still a winner when I look at price/quality/look.
CS wheel I dont like too much. Buttons again are well done, but wheel itself looks quite cheap and leather/rubber or whatever its made of doesnt feel very nice to me (again personal taste).
I was always told Moza is cheap solution, but after checking prices and tax and shipping I was a bit shocked its actually pretty expensive. But nevertheless I would say company has good simracing future ahead of them! :)
If you wanna know if I would swap my csl dd to moza r9. Probably not, its all overall personal taste. But its getting very close I think Moza is improving more and more!
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@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
As you guys requested here is Moza video! Moza was so nice to send me their base and two of their wheels (I only had to pay for import tax) for test. My channel is not channel for reviews, I dont want it to become one, I like to test things, but there are way better people doing proper in depth reviews. So my video is simple testing the base and wheel and giving my feedback how it feels to me. So please dont be rushing with things like "he hates it" or "loves it too much". I do these videos with personal use and my own taste! :) There were for sure some positives and also some negatives. R9 Base was most impressing to me, connection rod and base itself gave really good strength feedback to me. Installation was simple even though I had issue with usb and had to buy usb hub, but it might be my own issue, I dont know how to tell. But overall I think tiny little tweaks and the base would be top job. GS wheel I think is pretty good, buttons are most impressive and nice RGB, compare to what I use now (Fanatec V2.5) I think buttons were better quality but overall wheel felt a bit cheaper for way higher price as being sold, but it might be personal taste. For the price with tax and shipping I can almost get Simucube wheel or almost Gomez if I pay a bit more. So here for me my V2.5 is still a winner when I look at price/quality/look. CS wheel I dont like too much. Buttons again are well done, but wheel itself looks quite cheap and leather/rubber or whatever its made of doesnt feel very nice to me (again personal taste). I was always told Moza is cheap solution, but after checking prices and tax and shipping I was a bit shocked its actually pretty expensive. But nevertheless I would say company has good simracing future ahead of them! :) If you wanna know if I would swap my csl dd to moza r9. Probably not, its all overall personal taste. But its getting very close I think Moza is improving more and more!
@sim-racing5843
@sim-racing5843 2 жыл бұрын
Do I feel al give away coming to a live stream some day ? 😄
@semiijs
@semiijs 2 жыл бұрын
shipping cost probably was so high, cuz u get it sent from MOZA(China) bet there are few places in europe, that sells them also. Like in Germany and Italy i think. thet makes shipping a lot cheaper.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
@@sim-racing5843 maybe
@publius_scipio
@publius_scipio 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using a Moza R9 and GS wheel, coming from a t300rs its a huge difference. No problems so far, main reason for Moza was the fact it had quick delivery while fanatec ones are almost always sold out
@Gabe_H
@Gabe_H 2 жыл бұрын
about to receive mine soon , would you kindly share your settings for moza , acc and or ac if you wish ?
@RacingPotato12
@RacingPotato12 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabe_H Boosted Media had some pretty reasonable settings in their review video. I did some tweaks personally and it's been great!
@550LMS
@550LMS 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Moza products, my only worry right now is because it's a Chinese product, is the customer support. If they have as many issues as Fanatec (which are based in EU and have always had a slow customer support), that could get problematic very quickly. That said so far I've not heard of any complaints. Same goes for Simagic (love their new F1 FX wheel!) The Moza wheel and it's layout are practically perfect!
@larondiealpha7807
@larondiealpha7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabe_H can you reply to this with how long you waited to receive your order, just placed mine yesterday.
@_ex1t
@_ex1t Жыл бұрын
@@550LMS but the customer service experience so far has been very good. you can read a few reports on the internet
@GeorgeGoVroom
@GeorgeGoVroom Жыл бұрын
I love this guy, he’s so happy and it’s honestly so good to see
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
I sold my CSL DD for an R9 setup some weeks ago, something I'm doing as a 'reviewer' to check that people are getting as good a device as they would with Fanatec - my experience so far has been really good.
@olintopalito
@olintopalito 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% with Jardier, I Had the Csl DD but I wasn't happy with that. So I changed for Moza few weeks ago, and for me it really feels better. The only only thing missing was the ability to change the settings on the wheel, especially coming from Fanatec, you can do with on smart phone but NO. I actually discovered that there are some buttons combinations allowing to do that but still not easy like Fanatec. I like the settings possibilities on Moza and I think there's a room for really improvements there. It runs warmer but so far no problems to this moment. I was afraid of those noises but after look for the size of the thing and the forces that it outputs I can understand. My wife for example can't hear those noises even getting close. Shifters are crazy loud without the rubber 😳. Regrets? Not at all, durability will tell us.
@ichizos9615
@ichizos9615 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have 5nm or 8nm CSL DD?
@olintopalito
@olintopalito 2 жыл бұрын
@@ichizos9615 first 5nm after I bought the 8nm psu
@ichizos9615
@ichizos9615 2 жыл бұрын
​@@olintopalito I asked because I am surprised that you weren't happy with CSL DD considering its 8nm. Can you describe what kind of difference you feel personally? Maybe I am surprised because CSL DD 8nm was my first DD wheel after t300.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't keen on using the mobile app at first, I don't usually go for gimmicks. However, after giving it a go, whilst it's not as easy as built-in on-wheel menus, it's not bad.
@olintopalito
@olintopalito 2 жыл бұрын
@@ichizos9615 More power, less clipping and no disconnections.
@CoyoteRacing
@CoyoteRacing 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget though that the round wheel you have is the Budget friendly wheel. So cheaper materials have been used.
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
And they are also heavy which creates a lot of steering inertia which obviously can dull some sensation.
@bjornbursell7681
@bjornbursell7681 2 жыл бұрын
Good an honest quick review Jardier! Bit crap of Moza to send out parts for review that has not passed a proper QC..
@bigmonkey7428
@bigmonkey7428 2 жыл бұрын
Lets go! Finally I have wanted to see you opinion on this for ages. Also keep up the good work hardier, I love your content
@AdamMickMannis
@AdamMickMannis 2 жыл бұрын
The R9 is awesome, got mine for £380, got a Kyostar QR hub for £30 and bolted my Sparco wheel straight to it, once you dial the settings in for each game / car the base really comes to life. Btw the R9 is fanless, it will get hot under heavy use but thats completely normal.
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like it, its my first DD and it made sense in the UK because of retailers whereas Fanatec had the same shipping issues for me. Pit-house is available via a phone app as well. Elephant in the room, they (MOZA) sent somebody with nearly 100k followers a damaged/faulty wheel. Own goal MOZA. It will be interesting to hear your thoughts after streaming with it. 👍
@23goldenbear
@23goldenbear 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Jards! Little Bird told me they are in the process of making console compatible. Only detail I know about it, but that is exciting!
@taxi615
@taxi615 2 жыл бұрын
Yep for now you can buy the Brook Ras1ution 2 And it will work with series X and ps5
@eetuli85
@eetuli85 2 жыл бұрын
Good impressions video, thanks. I find it difficult to prefer this over CSL DD 8nm and the whole Fanatec ecosystem. The base itself seems very impressive for the initial price but shipping and taxes was a good point. Nice intro with the camera runs and the background music is good taste.
@kylepilkington614
@kylepilkington614 2 жыл бұрын
The default settings on the R9 aren't great but with some fine tuning in the settings menu you can make it fantastic. Especially for the price👌👍
@cupofmozzarella
@cupofmozzarella 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you take out a couple hours to setup the FFB you'll have an absolute blast with it. Happy with mine.
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I was thoroughly underwhelmed when I first got mine. I came from a Thrustmaster TS-XW (Which is fantastic considering it’s belt and gear, if that’s all you can afford, get that!) and was so disappointed with direct drive thinking it was good but over hyped. I finally got the settings right after a few days and now I can feel the tyres skipping on the road while on the limit. Absolutely fantastic and not over hyped!
@Gabe_H
@Gabe_H 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames about to receive mine soon , would you kindly share your settings for moza , acc and or ac if you wish ?
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabe_H Have you got yours yet? I’m still messing around with the settings but I think I got them nailed (for me). It feels fantastic now. I don’t drive ACC but apparently the settings transfer well from iRacing and back. I’ll send my settings when I get back from work tonight.
@aker2KK
@aker2KK 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to consider is MOZA ships to any continent; with Fanatec you’re restricted to Euro;US and Canada, Australia and some countries of Asia . I can’t buy directly from fanatec; I have to use a third party service to buy it from them and then ship it to my country since we don’t have resellers here. That increases the prices a lot. Right now there is limited stock on fanatec website; Moza is ready to ship.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@stephenbaines8966
@stephenbaines8966 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Jardier. The ffb is completely tuneable in the software. The noise you hear over curbs is just high frequency ffb and is again tuneable in the software. The retail network is growing constantly and they now have a warehouse in the USA. Shame about that rotary nib tho.
@Raitzen97
@Raitzen97 6 ай бұрын
To be honest, this was the video that made me go for R9 base and KS wheel since I prefer road racing over offroad.. Jo a pozdrav z Prahy :D
@Mooseman_Videos
@Mooseman_Videos 2 жыл бұрын
Check the regional resellers for shipping, they have MUCH better shipping rates than from MOZA.
@gonzogameplay5560
@gonzogameplay5560 Жыл бұрын
Yes super 👍😀😊
@jvdm76
@jvdm76 2 жыл бұрын
Jardier : I’m not a reviewer. Also Jardier : Brings out and epic intro en review video 😜 Great video Jards!!
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 2 жыл бұрын
all he needs are some fake plants and he's right there with everyone else
@FluxOhHai
@FluxOhHai 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see a transparent review! thanks jardier!
@jinx20001
@jinx20001 2 жыл бұрын
why are we still surprised that DD bases are releasing one after the other and they are generally good? i mean every DD has the same benefit which is the feedback is fed directly to the wheel so every DD will feel pretty quick and responsive, the signal coming from the game never changes either, its always the same, when you hit a rumble strip its the same signal sent at the same frequency and the differences you feel are really down to the motors characteristics so some will be slightly sharper, some will be a little dull or dampened etc but ALL of them have the ability to be tuned very very similar in my experience, having a DD1 and a simucube 2 pro side by side i can say for sure that the actual FFB effects are VERY similar, the difference comes in the shape of motor smoothness and speed, the simucube is simply smoother to turn and can be tuned to respond ever so slightly quicker, on top of the much superior QR that makes it a better product, fanatec has a solid software package but it still lacks what i would call game changing software options like a static force reduction filter which is just exceptionally useful, how have they not just straight copied it yet i dont know, you can get all the details without the wheel being too heavy mid corner. anyway without rambling about that comparison i think fanatec have some serious competition in moza and simagic, its sheer brand name popularity keeping them on top because i think ALL of the latest lower priced DD's outclass fanatec's podium lineup, moza and simagic bases use smoother servo motors and far better quick releases, i dont care if they lack the outright power or not if i turn the wheel and its not smooth that immediately takes me out of the immersion, no car on the planet has notchy steering and as subtle as it is with fanatec its there, the excuse its hard to notice when driving is not an excuse im happy with when spending this kind of money, its suppose to be the best of the best and simply does not feel like a real life car, the DD1/2 are really needing a hardware update in my opinion to keep up as harsh as that is. Moza and simagic only have to keep pushing their marketing angle, get their software in order and more fully featured and they might be real trouble for fanatec.
@creepingdebt988
@creepingdebt988 2 жыл бұрын
okay him pronouncing subwoofer as "soobwoofer" is extra reason he's the wholesome man we need
@stewartbruce7547
@stewartbruce7547 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my Moza R9 set up running a week now and I'm stoked with it. Just take the time to get it set up as the default profiles aren't great, there's plenty of youtube content to help with this.
@mrabsurdas6896
@mrabsurdas6896 Жыл бұрын
how long it takes when you received it ? ;o
@stewartbruce7547
@stewartbruce7547 Жыл бұрын
@@mrabsurdas6896 4 days from time of order
@mrabsurdas6896
@mrabsurdas6896 Жыл бұрын
@@stewartbruce7547 I will get it in around 1month lol and still it's now only are at customs office and more few days and will be month :D your also was shipped from china?
@stewartbruce7547
@stewartbruce7547 Жыл бұрын
Shipping from Australia
@mrabsurdas6896
@mrabsurdas6896 Жыл бұрын
@@stewartbruce7547 hmm that's intresting :D
@ichizos9615
@ichizos9615 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding your issue with wheel and subwoofer it might be caused by you inserting those two devices to the same USB Controller. Your motherboard surely has many USB ports but they are grouped by USB Controllers and if you are connecting two "heavy-power" devices to the same USB controller you might be running into bandwidth limit for this particular controller. Playing with different port combinations might help.
@SteveJaye84
@SteveJaye84 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this. I think that is the problem.
@MinnieYan
@MinnieYan 2 жыл бұрын
I think this MOZA R9 is a competitor to the Fanatec CSL DD wheel and similar cheap dd wheels, but the R9 instead of offering 8nm, offers 9nm of dd force, so it’s truly a remarkable price of 500 USD for the wheelbase itself. You might say oh it only has 1nm more torque in the base. Yes, you would be correct, but that helps you really feel the road and even helps to make sure you even have more confidence when sim driving. So quite truly the competitor.
@stubby8663
@stubby8663 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Jardier, Your "impression" is what I want. Like the issue with it making the electrical sound upon turning. I want to know IF it continues to do that later, and if the burning smell continues also. Please don't be afraid you'll hurt their feelings, We may be spending our hard earned Money on these things. So IF "YOU" have problems Using the product, Please let us know. I hardly ever watch product "Reviews" but like to see how they preform on a day to day basis long term. Just my two cents lol....
@ns_racing
@ns_racing 2 жыл бұрын
The "electrical sound" is all in settings. I had same issue with my Simagic Alpha Mini but once I got it tuned properly it goes away and is absolutely amazing feeling! The burning smell I cannot comment on as it never happened with my Simagic.
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
i have no smells and zero noise. What I do have is a massive lack of talent using it....🤣 And the firmare update today made me want to smash it to bits.🙅‍♂
@JuynBiets
@JuynBiets 2 жыл бұрын
For me Fanatec is still the way to go, everything seems so much more user friendly and also the whole ecosystem is a major plus. But it’s a good thing that there are other players getting into this market, keeps everyone sharp
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
100% competition is always good😍
@n3hp5
@n3hp5 2 жыл бұрын
Simagic > Fagatec.
@recto8746
@recto8746 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but unfortunately fanatec dont ship to me but moza does
@meguro7773
@meguro7773 2 жыл бұрын
As you even said before yourself you’re not the best doing REVIEWS, so when this time very clearly calling it a TEST it all made so much more sense and got into the correct context. Because showing your emotions and impressions during a TEST is what you’re very good at, more than trying to make REVIEW like other people do. So stick with the tests, this is a great video! 😊
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
@marcomure
@marcomure 2 жыл бұрын
the problem that gave you the base could be because direct drives create a magnetic field and sometimes interfere with other electronic systems. I had generally heard of people who had problems with the pedals with direct drives.
@wandrinsheep
@wandrinsheep 2 жыл бұрын
Buy it through a reseller, I bought mine through 6sigma racing in Canada and they even gave me a preorder discount which came out cheaper than the moza wheel AT BASE PRICE from moza directly and shipping was free to US. They are the best hands down I’ve ever done business with period. Shoutout to Stanley.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🤩
@busterbrown1686
@busterbrown1686 11 ай бұрын
October 2023. He failed to mention the CS wheel is much heavier than the GS, hence the weaker response. The wheel weight affects base performance. R12 same effect, but better all around
@unovox
@unovox 2 жыл бұрын
I want my MOZA!!!!! 🤩💘💕 MoZa RoCks!!!!
@kingster3835
@kingster3835 2 жыл бұрын
Overall very good job there @Jardier - tho the music is bit loud or high pitched for me... Shifter pads are sounding quite cheap(loud and clicky like mechanical keyboards...) TBH compared to my GT DD Pro... Cannot wait to see you using it properly for sometime in the near future races :) Then we will see how it actually feels... Keep up that good work of yours, little Bugger :D
@phantomx2003
@phantomx2003 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you may have overloaded your USB board. I had to buy a usb hub card to put in my pc to fix the problem.
@christopherjunkins
@christopherjunkins Жыл бұрын
As far as the USB issue you are having. It could be a few things from something as dangerous as a short somewhere in the USB cable for the R9, to something as simple as the R9 is pulling so much power through the USB of your motherboard that it's causing other's to not get adequate power and be shut down due to this. The latter issue could possibly be fixed by using a powered USB Hub. The former may just need a different cable or could be a manufacturing defect and you should contact MOZA to have the base returned to them for inspection.
@kuok77
@kuok77 2 жыл бұрын
I saw R9's ad yesterday, then you have this Video today. 🤣🤣
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
😅😂
@Brennan.P
@Brennan.P 2 жыл бұрын
Moza is Fanatec's first real competition in this price range. the problem with owning the market is that you don't have to listen to the custom and improve your product and strive to be better. this should be a wake up call for them.
@JamesChurchill3
@JamesChurchill3 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jards, remember when your PC crashed during that race? Sounds like your power supply is not able to provide enough power to everything it needs, a USB hub should work but it's worth checking your power supply also, or upgrading it.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
This is different pc 😅
@kevin_m
@kevin_m 2 жыл бұрын
Great overview of your test and experience Jardier. I can relate to shipping cost pain, being in Canada we pay a premium in tariffs and shipping on most sim gear.
@funnygoosetz4085
@funnygoosetz4085 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say this wheel is soooooo lit!! carbon fiber is awsome, only from looks, its better than the f mclearn v2.5
@Bobbarker23455
@Bobbarker23455 2 жыл бұрын
I've used both obviously u haven't, and the Fanatec V2.5 is way better honestly
@funnygoosetz4085
@funnygoosetz4085 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bobbarker23455 ya I know fanatec is good always, but moza wheel is cool right? lol
@CleanLin3
@CleanLin3 2 жыл бұрын
They just need time, but is always good to have option.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@michaeloxlong5697
@michaeloxlong5697 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't tried it already, try moving the conflicting devices to different combinations of USB ports and you might find one that works. Your PC probably has more USB ports than it has USB controllers (the chip on the motherboard that talks between the USB device and the processor). It could also be that one of the devices requires a high power connection which is why you got the charging message. If either have a red or yellow USB connector, that's probably the problem. USB Color Code: White: USB1, Black: USB2, Blue: USB3.0, Teal: USB3.1, Yellow/Orange/Red: High Power
@FunkyTR
@FunkyTR 2 жыл бұрын
no point guessing - use USBdeview to find out for sure what's up....
@doneilhamilton2163
@doneilhamilton2163 2 жыл бұрын
You just got a bad wheel, mine came perfect 👌
@sirsiriussowhy
@sirsiriussowhy 2 жыл бұрын
You can change the RGB to display different colors , more custom info , great review 😎
@Titan-ij6gb
@Titan-ij6gb 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a greater impression with less FFB clipping. Dont know if you used the whole power at the wheel itself but if not, you should set the wheelbase to 100% and ingame lower than max
@BoosiveFPV
@BoosiveFPV Жыл бұрын
I reckon Jardier already knows this basic knowhow 😂
@Shenthusiast
@Shenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
Daaamn this reviewer is spot on, I should probably subscribe, watch his streams "he drives fast" and hit that like button!!!
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
😱😱😱💪
@kingster3835
@kingster3835 2 жыл бұрын
101% agreed!!!
@vihta545
@vihta545 2 жыл бұрын
I consider buying the R9 but I am just not sure if the 9nm will be fun in the long run...I'm sure it will be a different world coming from a Logitech G29...but I don't want to have to upgrade again in a year :-)
@virtualawakening2299
@virtualawakening2299 Жыл бұрын
Please do an in depth review of the new Thrustmaster 818 Direct Drive!!! There's almost no info out there, but another guy reviewed it and thought the FFB conveyed so much more detail because of lower moving mass! I don't trust this traxion guy. BUUuuUUt, I'm sure most viewers are budget-oriented, addicted sim racers and are drooling over all the new entry DDs offered by so many companies! Is this Thrustmaster DD THAT much better than anything else???
@ZheikoNileth
@ZheikoNileth 2 жыл бұрын
Czeching it out! I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
😅🤩
@craigleese1787
@craigleese1787 2 жыл бұрын
I get from that 'test' that Jardier wasn't too keen 😂
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna be honest and dont fake love for something. As said in video im mega impressed with Moza but it needs tiny little tweaks in my eyes. But als as said everyone has different taste 🤩
@FordEntertainmentGroupFEG
@FordEntertainmentGroupFEG Жыл бұрын
Moza R9 is miles ahead of the Fanatec CSL 8nm equivalent. Not even close. You can get the Moza R9 to feel exactly like the Simucube 2 Pro with tweaking. And i own both. Fanatec CSL is not even close in quality, build quality or feel.
@pojhi1
@pojhi1 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this jar, you are the man!
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. Жыл бұрын
I have had some strange USB problems recently as well. I wonder if that is related to my MOZA R5.
@Jeckaa84
@Jeckaa84 2 жыл бұрын
Simucube makes that noice as well when going over curbs.
@realityboost4405
@realityboost4405 2 жыл бұрын
Totally fair minded, as we would expect from Jarod. Thank you for your take, J.
@Simcadepro
@Simcadepro 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you having EMI on the base, its basically a ground issue. if you have usb isolator or EMI filter to resolve your issue.
@simon7109100
@simon7109100 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how to feel about the wheel costing more then the base, and it still feels cheap. That formula wheel should be 300€ top
@mosey4650
@mosey4650 2 жыл бұрын
Jardier, did you try the app on your phone? i know, not suposed to use the phone and drive... but at least you can change things on the fly...
@TA7CH
@TA7CH 2 жыл бұрын
If they send you goods like that to review where the buttons just fall off tells you all you need to know about the quality of their product that’s a bit of a shame really you’d think they’d make the extra effort knowing it’s getting reviewed on KZbin thanks for the review 👍👍
@maurocastellazzi
@maurocastellazzi 2 жыл бұрын
True it no display but it has the app on the phone!
@crunch6438
@crunch6438 2 жыл бұрын
Although there are some weird shortcuts you can do on the wheel by pressing a series of buttons to change the wheel rotation, I normally just run PI House on a second monitor or have used the phone app on some occasions.
@wurzlgaming
@wurzlgaming 2 жыл бұрын
bought a Simagic alpha mini , its awesome. i would say its better than Fanatec DD
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh need to look at that one!
@tryggmundur1188
@tryggmundur1188 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the compatability with 3rd party wheels? Is it like fanatec where you have to have the podium base to work at max FFB?
@ns_racing
@ns_racing 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Jardier! Just out of curiosity is the base plugged into a USB hub? I was told they should always be plugged directly to the PC. When I bought my Alpha Mini it was down to Moza and Simagic but I chose Simagic overall after I saw a bunch of stellar reviews on their products. Thanks for the info.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
I bought usb hub ans plugges it there and it worked fine for the video :) but i wanted to say honestly all pro and cons i experienced
@gonzogameplay5560
@gonzogameplay5560 Жыл бұрын
Super moza bro 😊😊😊😊
@Schniebel89
@Schniebel89 2 жыл бұрын
Your USB ports are probably all connected to 1 controller. try different ports or get a USB expansion card . Edit: Happens a lot when you plug to many VR stuff into your PC as well.
@giogamer4825
@giogamer4825 2 жыл бұрын
Will you make an side to side with the Fanatec CSL/DD Pro?
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think Im that good person with language + review abilities to do proper side by side comparisson :(
@AnotherWatchChannel
@AnotherWatchChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it had Playstation Compatibility, and the small screens to adjust settings on the fly. On the flip side, I wish Fanatec had LED buttons like Moza.
@taxi615
@taxi615 2 жыл бұрын
Brook Ras1ution 2 Will make series x and ps5 compatible
@BeCaffe
@BeCaffe 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarpedo, if you have enough time to review it, I'd suggest you to have a time trial table comparing the best time you could achieve with each setup on a specific car/track combo. it would be a nice piece of information. Then again, I don't know if the FFB settings would make it less relevant.
@zerobandwidth
@zerobandwidth 2 жыл бұрын
If I ever need anyone to write me a job recommendation, review my channel, basically evaluate me in any way, I want to call Jardier, because he will bend over backward to never say a single negative thing about anything or anyone. hahaha Thanks for this video; lots of interesting points to think about for folks considering the Moza against other choices.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
😁😁
@twiggy159
@twiggy159 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently had that same issue with my USB hub. It turned out the port on the hub died so I replaced it with a different hub and it worked fine.
@taxi615
@taxi615 2 жыл бұрын
Those interested you can get the Brook Ras1ution 2 and the R9 pedals and rims will work with series x and PS5
@JAILEDforMEMES
@JAILEDforMEMES 2 жыл бұрын
You’re doing great as “No reviewer” 👀👌🏼 Very detailed comparisons and descriptions of the product. For me still FANATEC > MOZA 👀🤷🏻‍♂️
@knarfex
@knarfex 2 жыл бұрын
Im open for part 2 :)
@user-lh4nl5zh8w
@user-lh4nl5zh8w 11 ай бұрын
How much cost to buy it in usa with tax and shipping?
@h.k.7768
@h.k.7768 2 жыл бұрын
I don`t understand why Moza send you the small Base they should know you use the big boy. I´m curious what you report if you ride it for a long time in relation to the slightly larger diameter. I`m on one side glad that i need more time to save money for good racing equipment so i can see the development of the Software for the Wheelbase i heard they should make it better. I like the look of their Formula Wheel in my opinion the second best after the Fanatec 2.5 Wheel. But i heard the larger diameter is better for longer sessions.
@brotakul
@brotakul 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because Moza seems to attack the more budget oriented customers and that’s important for them to establish a position on the market. Going up in their lineup, there are more/stronger competition, the one that actually makes Moza stand out is the cheaper offering. It’s probably better for them to just compete with CSL DD and maybe Cammus than strongly marketing themselves in a stronger, tougher, more mature market of established wheels. They simply have more chance growing their marketshare better this way. Because if they have issues competing with the CSL lineup, going against Simagic and other better wheels straight up is even harder. Marketing wise, that is…
@RicardoReisillustration
@RicardoReisillustration 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Fanatec always sold out? I'm actually considering buy from Moza, thanks for the review.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
Chip shortage hit fanatec hard, asked them that at spa :(
@Capeau
@Capeau Жыл бұрын
try to update your motherboards bios and get the latest drivers (chipset etc)
@justkris6461
@justkris6461 2 жыл бұрын
I have a t300 on its end of life. So this is a good update?
@dansunts
@dansunts 2 жыл бұрын
Does the R9 wheelbase fit on the GT Omega ART cockpit ok? Considering getting this over the CSL DD pro.
@marc-andrehogue114
@marc-andrehogue114 Жыл бұрын
Its good to go, no drilling needed
@adamalmqvist1789
@adamalmqvist1789 2 жыл бұрын
When they release one for consoles (we exist an so on) Fantaec and thrustmaster might get some issues to compete. Great times
@vollanium
@vollanium 2 жыл бұрын
Some USB devices just won't get along when connected to the same USB controller on the mobo, like the saitek x56 flightstick and throttle gets all jumbled like that. So it's either that or power draw. My 2 cents
@GiosSimCorner
@GiosSimCorner 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a Simagic alpha mini video
@RichBurn
@RichBurn 2 жыл бұрын
there is inertia settings for each wheel you need to change when switching from GS to CS/RS wheel
@RichBurn
@RichBurn 2 жыл бұрын
and the sound you hear is the bluetooth searching. you can turn it off in settings
@Rapid_GT
@Rapid_GT Жыл бұрын
Naa Fanatec all the way for me, cheers for the info though, always good to see what else is out there and there's room for improvement for all sim racing equipment
@divinasi0n
@divinasi0n 2 жыл бұрын
USB connectivity is cancer... I have to reinstall Samsung driver every time I want to connect my phone to my PC and put files on it. 🙄 sometimes tech is just gonna be tech - whatever you try. Also Will from Boosted Media said he had to dial out the noise from the Moza base using the software and then the FFB was possibly more high fidelity than the Fanatec base.
@mirkodalmolin9779
@mirkodalmolin9779 2 жыл бұрын
now you should review Simagic Alpha mini
@chips_n_dip4971
@chips_n_dip4971 2 жыл бұрын
what a cutie!
@Noonz2311
@Noonz2311 2 жыл бұрын
U can see on your monitor that your ffb was clipping
@SuperzzDazz
@SuperzzDazz 2 жыл бұрын
put tiny black strips across the rev lights, might make it look a bit better i'm with you on that it doesn't look right to me
@crunch6438
@crunch6438 2 жыл бұрын
For the rev lights, you can change the color range and individual colors, the action that the rev limiter shows or simply disable it if you want to.
@SuperzzDazz
@SuperzzDazz 2 жыл бұрын
@@crunch6438 should I have clarified that I meant vertical black stripes to make it appear more like traditional rev lights instead of the light bar that it is 😂 pretty cool that you can customise all that though cheers for the knowledge bud
@erictheawesomest
@erictheawesomest 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing that you will probably need a powered usb hub
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
If any of you guys have a tuned set up for ACC and wouldn't mind sharing it, i'd be massively greatful.
@chadsugden411
@chadsugden411 2 жыл бұрын
How long do your GT omega seats last before you need to change them out?
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
Using this for 3 years and not a single use/ problem 💪 so i guess depends
@chadsugden411
@chadsugden411 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jardier 3 years of use is plenty enough for me to justify it. My next level racing one is starting to die slowly.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org 2 жыл бұрын
1. It so strange hearing your voice from the mic you were using. 2. So you didn't like it. That's OK. 3. For Kerbs and Road effects, there is FFB Equalizer, where you can up the effects. 4. The difference from Fanatec is, you can actually buy Moza whereas DD 0.5 is never in stock. And If you have a problem, then if you're not VIP, you're not getting customer support for weeks. 5. It seems that Moza currently don't provide consistency from base to base. Some say it "squeals" or have some strange sound, some don't. I hope they hire staff for the Quality Consistency department.
@AllStarSnork
@AllStarSnork 2 жыл бұрын
Is it me, or do the paddle sound kinda odd? I was so close to buying the Moza base cuz I hear good things
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
They sound awful. Fortunately they have supplied small rubber sound dampening pads to get it to a minimum.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i didnt like it but in package there is small rubber piece you put there to make it sound less. Tested in video :)
@AllStarSnork
@AllStarSnork 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jardier Ah that's good to know. Thanks!
@AllStarSnork
@AllStarSnork 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevetadman6272 Thanks!
@Scott-Crowell
@Scott-Crowell 2 жыл бұрын
the round one is there low end wheel
@vjollila96
@vjollila96 2 жыл бұрын
i wish buttons weren't pre labeled and instead selling sticker/button cap kit like fanatec does or you could just use dymo
@crunch6438
@crunch6438 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed this on even higher end wheels. Just leave the wheel blank, give us the stickers to label them if we want to (MOZA does provide a sticker kit).
@brtcobra
@brtcobra 2 жыл бұрын
smells of burning, knobs falling off, odd noises.. its defo a pass from me lol.. happy shopper version of Fanatec DD wheels lol
@veteranosav
@veteranosav 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKCXm3qAgr-tn9k
@stevetadman6272
@stevetadman6272 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at all of the reviews available. I think we got unlucky with the one supplied to Jardier. Still a big own goal to Moza though.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna be honest with my video, so dont wanna hide any experience i had. i was really impressed with moza but in my eyes there is still a bit way to tweak things up and make it epic💪
@philippegohier6992
@philippegohier6992 2 жыл бұрын
I pre order mine 17th june, still got nothing The dealer where i orderered still dont have theirs... Still waiting.
@Jardier
@Jardier 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@philippegohier6992
@philippegohier6992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jardier update, shipment cleared customs at british colombia last week, on the way to nova scotia max this friday. So they shiped to me next week ...
@kimtornqvist182
@kimtornqvist182 2 жыл бұрын
When i can convert it to USB i will buy it asap
@bulldozer4945
@bulldozer4945 2 жыл бұрын
Ok all good but what about pedals 😀 Steering is just one part of sim racing. Why don't you cover this part🤔 And don't forget Moza is just for a PC 😉
@tangentsmith2961
@tangentsmith2961 2 жыл бұрын
People say it is OKeish DD base but MOZA could sell it for a bit less to get CSL DD out of the competition completely. However CSL DD is a joke anyway with all those issues with steering wheel disconnects and quick release that let steering wheel play like it is on the 30 years old car. We just need more companies to give these lazy old ones a good competition to shake 'em up. People say that Chinese g29 clone can be connected to the new generation consoles while Fanatec make it something special of their DD base for PS5. It is time to let them stay with all their cool overpriced stuff on their own.
@tributeman1099
@tributeman1099 Жыл бұрын
I have no problems with my csl dd. What the hell is this 😂
@tangentsmith2961
@tangentsmith2961 Жыл бұрын
​@@tributeman1099 I'm happy you are the lucky one but there are so many people out there whose devices have those issues and Fanatec did nothing bout that. And I'm not even speaking of those more expensive wheel bases that turned into brick during firm updates. Fanatec made it look like nothing has happened. The problem with this world is people were learned not to care bout other people and even make it look like there is nobody out there. Do You know what the survivorship bias is? It very well could be your case! But who cares! Right! Enjoy your wheel sir!
@tributeman1099
@tributeman1099 Жыл бұрын
@@tangentsmith2961 no problem for me or my friends playing on csl dd. New firmware also works fine.
@tangentsmith2961
@tangentsmith2961 Жыл бұрын
@@tributeman1099 Oh boy! I'm glad to know that but saying that again and again doesn't help those who got those issues! Right? The problem here is not that you have no problems yet! The problem is Fanatec just don't give a crap bout their customers and their own products.
@tributeman1099
@tributeman1099 Жыл бұрын
@@tangentsmith2961 how many people have this problem?
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