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MPC STEMS In STANDALONE FINALLY - But is it GOOD?

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GhettoStyles

GhettoStyles

Күн бұрын

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@biggcebo
@biggcebo Ай бұрын
I tried applying stems to the already stem'd out parts like the drums and it did clear it up more.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@biggcebo that’s interesting. I will try that.
@forsale313
@forsale313 Ай бұрын
I find that if stuff is Re-Stemed it works well depending on what you're trying to extract. After messing with pre filtered material I find that all stem separators work good. 4 years ago We had NONE of this (at this Price point). fr fr
@MetatronsCube23
@MetatronsCube23 Ай бұрын
The stand alone version is usable, but only for really short sample stem separation, and even then you need to use filters to clean the sound up. Just doing it on PC sounds better and is way faster( even if you transfer a sample from your MPC, to the PC, stem it out, and send it back the MPC it gets done faster than the MPC doing it stand alone). Glad I didn't wait on the stand alone version because it definitely wouldn't be able to do what I'm doing with it on the PC. I've been stemming out entire songs(3-9 minute tracks), chopping the whole song into loops and doing live remix tracks on my standalone MPC One+. The standalone version is definitely a lo-fi version.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
You are spot on.
@BinkyWomack
@BinkyWomack Ай бұрын
yea it's barely better than Nothing. I even ripped files from a cd put them on a flash drive imported to mpc and it was really Phased out. Nothing I could use as a Primary stand alone sample. Mainly co star space filling type samples
@jamesbinitie7249
@jamesbinitie7249 Ай бұрын
not feeling the standalone version. I have te sektop version and don't use it as I was waiting for standalone as this is how i predominantly work. I was not impressed with the desktop version either. I think i get better results using their kill plugin to get bass. I basically separate into bass mid and high using air kill. Would not be suporised if Akain are not using stem separation AI algorithms as the MPC does not have the horsepower for that so instead its just using a standard set of eq and filters so some samples sound better than others depending on the frequency spectrum and how well different sounds sitin different frequency ranges.
@philippebackprotips
@philippebackprotips Ай бұрын
Jumped on it and works pretty dope!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I'm glad its finally out.
@LilHendoMrFoolstyle
@LilHendoMrFoolstyle Ай бұрын
Thanks for the demo. As always, you saved us some time.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@LilHendoMrFoolstyle doing my part
@joserivera1054
@joserivera1054 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to get off work to go home and create something. Finally.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@joserivera1054 salute that!
@djskillzz215
@djskillzz215 Ай бұрын
Indeed!!! Same here!!! and I'm Off 2mar!!!
@trentinquarantino9771
@trentinquarantino9771 Ай бұрын
Dont be too enthusiastic.....it Sounds Like Shit.
@MeanUncleMusic
@MeanUncleMusic Ай бұрын
@@trentinquarantino9771😆😆😆
@MeExpressing
@MeExpressing Ай бұрын
Thank you for the share and the information 💪🏽👍🏾
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@MeExpressing welcome as always
@lindasson
@lindasson Ай бұрын
Great video, and I'm hype!!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@lindasson it’s here!
@manatee_flips6811
@manatee_flips6811 Ай бұрын
I have been using it since it came out on the software. I give it a 7 out of 10. For vocals, its nice....Enjoy!!
@djskillzz215
@djskillzz215 Ай бұрын
VERY very interesting.... can't wait to try it myself , especially with vinyl and other audio sources that may not be as complex musically, may get cleaner separations..??? But like you mentioned, I'm sure Akai is going to get tons of feedback, positive and negative and will continue to improve it's efficiency on both production platforms, Standalone & Controller mode and offer future updates!!! Thanks for sharing and #Salute Big Bro!!!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I Appreciate it! Hope you get some good results!
@teashea1
@teashea1 Ай бұрын
The best Stems video I have seen so far.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@teashea1 thank you! 🙏🏽
@TheOneJPtv
@TheOneJPtv Ай бұрын
Love how you broke it down Big Dawg. I just downloaded it to my X
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@TheOneJPtv let me know if you get different results.
@ralfmoss
@ralfmoss Ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping us up-to-date.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@ralfmoss yessir!
@Starr1onebeatz
@Starr1onebeatz Ай бұрын
The Best Stems is Virtual DJ and FL Studio...but one thing to remember, the MPC is not a High Tech Beefed up Tanky PC, so when the Stems aren't great, it's the Hardware that the Stems are being used through. If your Stems are not processed in a matter of seconds, and it takes 1 minute, or minutes, then you do not have the Computer Processing Power needed to handle it
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I think the best I have had a chance to experience is RipX. Fl Studio is good. Logic is very good also and the fastest I have seen with a high quality. I agree the MPC in Standalone needs to be more robust to do high quality stem separation.
@kittiecommittee139
@kittiecommittee139 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the honest, no-shill opinion. So, would you recommend or not that a person spend the $10 on it for standalone?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles 24 күн бұрын
@@kittiecommittee139 if you are standalone only I say anything is better than nothing and it’s only $10 so it shouldn’t really hurt you but if you use desktop it definitely works better and there are other options as well.
@cordlesswire
@cordlesswire Ай бұрын
i knew it. it heaaaaaavily depends on what you are stemming. meaning, some songs will stem nicely (ish) and some will just fall apart. and yeah, desktop will always be better since cpus in pcs are usually more powerful. will give it a try when i get back home from holidays, and start with something simple and short.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Well said!
@Trioptic3D
@Trioptic3D Ай бұрын
FL gang!!! But bro I'm so happy to have the Stems separation on standalone. I'm definitely gonna cop today! Let's go! 🎉
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Trioptic3D salute!
@obscuresoundz
@obscuresoundz Ай бұрын
so akia needs to refresh th whole line with more powerful processors
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@obscuresoundz I have been saying that for a very long time. New iPhones have a better processor and more RAM than every MPC.
@ahleempennyfeather18
@ahleempennyfeather18 Ай бұрын
That's crazy now that I think of it
@themrworldwide
@themrworldwide Ай бұрын
Correction: It's Akai not akia.
@thablackkat9905
@thablackkat9905 Ай бұрын
Or you could try to work with what you have. Don't take it for granted. 30 years ago, we only had about 12 seconds of sampling time in stereo on these units. Learn to appreciate what you have now and make do with it.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@thablackkat9905 I appreciate what we have but at the same time it is 2024. Nobody is riding horse and buggies no more, watching box floor tube televisions, or carrying around cell phones with a chord strapped to a backpack, no chorded phones at all for that matter. I appreciate that we have gotten past that.
@mspurple7765
@mspurple7765 Ай бұрын
Happy Thursday 💜
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@mspurple7765 same to you 💜
@Roccetscience
@Roccetscience Ай бұрын
Im impressed by the sonic texture of that beat!😮 Sounds like an SP1200. The harmonics 👍
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Roccetscience thanks
@craigdawson9652
@craigdawson9652 Ай бұрын
I think it will get better as time moves but the controller mode is way clearer right now, I will say I can use it to come up with ideas but I think we gonna have to use filtering to get it all the way right so im gonna get the update but rock with controller mode for best results...either way its gonna be a good day in the lab for me, salute homie!!! I appreciate all you do for Us MPC heads!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Salute that!
@vacaywithbtay9355
@vacaywithbtay9355 Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@vacaywithbtay9355 🙏🏽
@88mokeyz8k
@88mokeyz8k Ай бұрын
Yes! Sir! Desktop Version all the way! Great Comparison! Dope
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@88mokeyz8k thanks
@markjackman1712
@markjackman1712 Ай бұрын
Great video ty - this demonstrates the differences perfectly.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@markjackman1712 welcome 🙏🏽
@Zsklar
@Zsklar Ай бұрын
Drums and bass sound horrible in every stem seperation ive done. Like really bad. Desktop version is much better, but I can get better seperation using just about anything else. Akai still has a long way to go. In my opinion, they shouldnt have even released this.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Zsklar I’m sure it will probably get better.
@Official360
@Official360 Ай бұрын
Yea, they really shouldve focused on something else
@willdelliswe
@willdelliswe Ай бұрын
I was able to get a little better sound out of it after putting my Audio Warp Algorithm on Basic instead of Pro Ten and my auto warp off. A possible improve, I mean little.
@musicfan2135
@musicfan2135 Ай бұрын
Release notes: Efficiency and Quality: On-device stems are created using the zPlane Stems Efficient algorithm, desktop MPC uses zPlane Stems Pro for highest quality.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@musicfan2135 and you can tell.
@forsale313
@forsale313 Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show this off. If koala can do it.......Damn right an MPC can do it. It's totally usable (in a creative way), but that's what it's all about anyway right? It's going to get better, they will just have to manage the resources (via the application).
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Letsgetbread8500
@Letsgetbread8500 Ай бұрын
Big difference 😮
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Letsgetbread8500 definitely
@astroidroach1873
@astroidroach1873 Ай бұрын
Just downloaded it 🔥🔥🔥
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
💪
@flix3o3
@flix3o3 Ай бұрын
Excellent comparison and info! Makes me curious how big the difference is with Serato Studio (free).
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@flix3o3 serato is VERY good 👍🏾
@PeteOnTheBeat
@PeteOnTheBeat Ай бұрын
Sorry for blabbering GS. I was having keyboard + neck + mpc connection problems. Of all of these I only fixed the MPC. From what I gathered this allows us to separate a sample into 4 stems. What I wanted was to just take out the drums of a sample so I can chop. If this can't be done,it won't be a replacement for Serato as I wanted,but for 10$ it's very good. I tried to layer all the stems together, minus the drums, and chop that pad/sample but unfortunately it only let's me chop one stem and not the 3 together. I think that we can probably resample that sample with just the 3 stems but it's not has dynamic as it should be. But again,for 10 bucks. If anyone has any work around pls tell me.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@PeteOnTheBeat I got you. So I think you want all the stems to have the exact same chops. If I have it correct what you want to do is chop the sample BEFORE applying stems. Then when you apply stems uncheck both check boxes. It will then stem out the sample but each stem will retain the sample chops.
@pwho405
@pwho405 Ай бұрын
Stem separation struggles on samples with a wide stereo field.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
It struggles on some mono samples as well. I have found some it cannot separate at all.
@pwho405
@pwho405 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles yep…. if them frequencies are too tight it sounds horrible. Long reverb tails add crazy artifacts as well. It will make things like vocals and drums fade in and out.
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer Ай бұрын
Good honest examples, thank you. I was excited to install "stand-alone" ... sadly not anymore - basically NO!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@ProjectOverseer I think it will be good if you want lofi type samples. If you want better quality use the software.
@wiggesobk
@wiggesobk Ай бұрын
Very informative video fam!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@wiggesobk thanks 🙏🏽
@planetweed
@planetweed Ай бұрын
It sounds to me that the standalone algo downsamples (like , make 44khz into 22khz) so that the cpu only has half the data to deal with . There might other stuff too with the standalone algo , but the desktop version clearly has more top end ...
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
It is definitely a less efficient stem algo.
@MervinLogan
@MervinLogan Ай бұрын
Yes Iam updated
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@MervinLogan ok. If it’s not showing up you might need to log out of your account then refresh it and log back in. Also the email you used to purchase stems needs to be the same email on your inMusic account.
@renaldurosier9327
@renaldurosier9327 Ай бұрын
Compare more standalone vs Desk top do 808's processing cuz!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles 21 күн бұрын
Just saw this. I might try that.
@djaffbolik
@djaffbolik Ай бұрын
Very interesting bro, thank you for this video 👍🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥 I will not use MPC stems in standalone.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
You are welcome. It might be great for lofi type stuff.
@EllzTheEnginEar
@EllzTheEnginEar Ай бұрын
Can you try another sample? I think it could be the quality of the sample more so than software vs hardware. The sample didn’t sound the best in its original state to me.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I did try a few other samples after I did this video. The results I got were similar. I have seen a few other videos as of now who got similar results as well.
@Ast3rixMusic
@Ast3rixMusic Ай бұрын
There were a lot of artifacts left behind in the standalone version. I don’t know.. I guess if I want to do this I will nab something that has an ai logic added to it. This would be ok for lofi and as an under layer but not studio quality use.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Ast3rixMusic I agree with that. You can make excellent lofi samples with this.
@quickstrike209
@quickstrike209 Ай бұрын
You mean bedroom quality.
@VinylAthletes
@VinylAthletes Ай бұрын
Why did akai release it if it wasn’t gonna do what it supposed to do? I get better separation on my iphone.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@VinylAthletes they did what they could. Many cell phones like newer iPhones have a better processor and more RAM than every standalone MPC.
@jonhamilton48
@jonhamilton48 Ай бұрын
Desktop sounds cleaner
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@MervinLogan
@MervinLogan Ай бұрын
Wats up I don’t have the download icon and I purchased the stems
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@MervinLogan did you update to 2.15? You must be on the 2.15 update.
@SimonPhoenix3
@SimonPhoenix3 Ай бұрын
I feel like standalone stems would still be useful for texture, but they’ve got a long way to go
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@SimonPhoenix3 agreed
@vacaywithbtay9355
@vacaywithbtay9355 Ай бұрын
I wonder if you normalize it first will that help
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
That could help potentially but I still think there would be a clearly detectable difference. Could be a little better though.
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS Ай бұрын
Using a beat that already has heavy chopping and effects added to it probably dont help the Stems Algorithm on stand alone or desktop, I'd be interested to hear how they do with a straight Vinyl sample.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@HOLLASOUNDS check out what Accurate Beats did. He got near the same results. I have seen a few others also including Ave McCree on live.
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles I have watched other videos and the MPC in stand alone simply does not have the computing power to ever produce high quality stems. What I have heard so far is what I would describe as under water sound, like a low quality MP3.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@HOLLASOUNDS I think that is a correct assessment. They all got similar results as me no matter what the sample source was.
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Its fun and a good strat for ideas but only for the Live 2, when your away from the studio, if you have your computer then might as well just use that.
@dulfaMB
@dulfaMB Ай бұрын
Good video. I have problems on why my Air Jura Chorus is not working or seen to be used...its purchased, downloaded and activated...yet... Pls.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@dulfaMB it’s not showing up?
@dulfaMB
@dulfaMB Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles No...i cant find it under plugins on MPC..but on inMusic profile its activated and all...i wrote to Akai but still waiting.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@dulfaMB it should be under Modulation then Air Music Technology OR under VST then Air Music Technology if you have plugins sorted by TYPE and Manufacturer
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@dulfaMB are you in standalone or controller mode? If you are in controller I would open the inMusic Software Center and just redownload it and install it again. If it’s not showing up and it is in fact installed correctly I’m assuming it might have been installed in the wrong directory. That could also be the case in standalone if you use multiple storage devices and did not select the correct one.
@simcitybigworldmedia
@simcitybigworldmedia Ай бұрын
STANDALONE STEMS sound like Foil
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@simcitybigworldmedia not foil 😂
@kellcoleStyleEnt
@kellcoleStyleEnt Ай бұрын
Too me yeah I heard that too
@bugbman2962
@bugbman2962 Ай бұрын
I bought it as soon as it was released. I tried everything it really sucks!! Don’t think it’s ready yet: how can they even release this
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Honestly I think they had to. They promised it would be out four months ago. I definitely think it is still a work in progress. All of the videos I have seen except the official Akai video had similar results as me.
@kellcoleStyleEnt
@kellcoleStyleEnt Ай бұрын
I slick for got all about them
Ай бұрын
Is that a Prince sample?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
No it’s not.
@ILLUDIUM_Q_36
@ILLUDIUM_Q_36 Ай бұрын
This is nice 😊
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@PeteOnTheBeat
@PeteOnTheBeat Ай бұрын
GS, how do i get to used on my One that doesn´t have wifi
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@PeteOnTheBeat you will probably have to connect an Ethernet cable
@myfathersson3751
@myfathersson3751 Ай бұрын
@@PeteOnTheBeat hook up the Ethernet cable from your Internet modem to the Ethernet on the back of the one.
@PeteOnTheBeat
@PeteOnTheBeat Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles that´s gonna be so hard that i´ll probably have to ask for a refund :D
@PeteOnTheBeat
@PeteOnTheBeat Ай бұрын
Got it running. Can I just stem out the drums of a sample? So I can a drum less sample? Or do I need to use all the stems all the time?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@PeteOnTheBeat no you can deselect anything you don’t want to stem out.
@jeremycole5837
@jeremycole5837 Ай бұрын
How did you get 2.15 the website shows 2.14 as the latest update
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
On your MPC in Standalone go to your MENU then hit PREFERENCES then go to INFO then tap UPDATE then tap ONLINE UPDATE. The software has not been updated. This is a FIRMWARE update only.
@mr.g4024
@mr.g4024 Ай бұрын
Finally!!!!!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@mr.g4024 right
@kellcoleStyleEnt
@kellcoleStyleEnt Ай бұрын
About time
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@kellcoleStyleEnt we been waiting since February.
@DJSTRATEGY
@DJSTRATEGY Ай бұрын
Man it’s night and day between the stand-alone and the software😢
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@DJSTRATEGY 100%
@SMEL
@SMEL Ай бұрын
Akai let me down on this one... 😢
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I feel you
@ahleempennyfeather18
@ahleempennyfeather18 Ай бұрын
My "YES" is like when Thor seen The Hulk on another planet in 'Thor: Ragnarok'
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
🤣
@patrickjames8907
@patrickjames8907 Ай бұрын
Hi, I am having trouble with a sequence. I am entering 18 bars on sequence 5. , but it’s not letting me record my 18 bar sequence, it stops at 4 bars. All of my other sequences have not really given me this issue. Can you help? Thank you so much.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@patrickjames8907 on my first thought I’m wondering how big the project is. If the memory is full it will stop.
@patrickjames8907
@patrickjames8907 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles thanks for getting back to me. You always respond so quickly, that’s why I came looking for you, much appreciated! I don’t think my project is too large,but I need to double check that.
@patrickjames8907
@patrickjames8907 Ай бұрын
The full song is 182 bars
@patrickjames8907
@patrickjames8907 Ай бұрын
I’m gonna have to purchase some of your merch for creating great helpful content and being supportive. T-shirts are pretty cool
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@patrickjames8907 check your RAM usage to make sure it isn’t full. There is an audio time recording limit also but I can’t remember how long it is off the top of my head but I think it’s around 7 or 8 minutes before audio is truncated.
@kandidmania
@kandidmania Ай бұрын
I hope Akai checks out this video cos phones apps sound way better than this, Kome on Akai get this right already. Thank for this vid.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@kandidmania I’m sure they saw it.
@richdars2515
@richdars2515 Ай бұрын
Its time for Akai to update the MPCs series CPU and RAM majorly. Too weak to compare to PC
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I have been saying that for a long time.
@OGSeason
@OGSeason Ай бұрын
Not impressed with it but for $9 bucks it was worth the try.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I think it will be good for lofi. Otherwise then I'm going desktop.
@garytskvaught7743
@garytskvaught7743 Ай бұрын
Are you using the new update version on the desktop or are you using 2.14?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
At the time it was 2.14 on desktop
@garytskvaught7743
@garytskvaught7743 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Just curious. My software has been a little shady after i downloaded the 2.15 especially the stems. Wondering if anyone else is having any problems with it?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@garytskvaught7743 I am actually still on 2.14 on the software. I am only on 2.15 in standalone but I am in Controller Mode 95% of the time.
@garytskvaught7743
@garytskvaught7743 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles I appreciate the advice and I enjoy your videos and tutorials. Is it possible to go back to 2.14 on my software?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@garytskvaught7743 yes it is. Here you go: www.akaipro.com/mpc-software-firmware-downloads.html
@PeteOnTheBeat
@PeteOnTheBeat Ай бұрын
FFs. do i really need to get an ethernet cable?
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@PeteOnTheBeat I think that’s the only way the original MPC One connects to the internet.
@raminbeatz
@raminbeatz Ай бұрын
Yup
@Bviciousmuzik
@Bviciousmuzik Ай бұрын
I would say stem out cleaner samples. This sample sounds a bit cluttered and muffled to begin with. The cleaner the sample, the cleaner the stems
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Bviciousmuzik that is probably true but I have already seen other videos from other people in the KZbin space that got very similar results. Desktop and Standalone do not sound the same.
@Bviciousmuzik
@Bviciousmuzik Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles aww man that’s disheartening. I have an Mpc X SE witch has double the ram of all the other Mpcs. Ours should be able to push the best version just like desktop.
@EllzTheEnginEar
@EllzTheEnginEar Ай бұрын
That was my thought. I’ve seen some other examples and they did sounded a bit better as far original sample. But the sample also has less elements.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@EllzTheEnginEar there are certain samples that will probably fair very well but they will probably be simplistic. I’m usually a MPC X SE in this video it like the Key 61 has the advantage of more RAM but standalone stems still use the lower grade algo. Accurate Beats used a Key 37 and had very similar results as mine.
@JohnnyJohnHub
@JohnnyJohnHub Ай бұрын
this really sounds bad, I'm trying to find an answer to the question why akai released steems for samplers, it doesn't make sense. There are a lot of ideas for some cool new effects etc. for mpc, but it's definitely not steems separation. It seems to me that these are also difficult times for influencers because they realize that it's crap and they have to put on a good face for a bad game. Some other guy from YT wrote that: what did you expect... but I'm asking who wanted sreemsy anyway...? akai simply responded to a potential sales demand, it means - they wanted to make money on something and came up with this idea, it's a pity that they released such a thing... it makes no sense
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnHub I was hopeful that it would sound better. I believe they released it because they had to. It was initially promised to be released in February.
@ice4278
@ice4278 Ай бұрын
Yes that's what I am saying paying for a bunch of junk
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
It is much better in the software.
@dptv3057
@dptv3057 Ай бұрын
Salute. 😂@12:00-12:03
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I don't know what to say bout that! lol
@Rati0nalThinker
@Rati0nalThinker Ай бұрын
Cheating is having no creativity and allowing to machine to do all the work without your effort. Nothing beats learning the basics because you will never have to have to reliable machinery.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Rati0nalThinker I’m guessing you would rather put nails in wood with a rock 🪨 than use a hammer 🔨
@Laze-Mz
@Laze-Mz Ай бұрын
i dont understand if people have 1300$ to spend on gear why they dont help out local artists? couldnt the sample local music people? if i had that gear I would be out looking for stuff to sample .
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Unless I'm not understanding your comment "we" do work with local artists all the time. It could be sampling or production. I think every person with a MPC or any other pro gear works with local artist and national artists when they can. The thing is some of these local artists need to take themselves and their business seriously. If I have invested tens of thousands of dollars in my equipment and my craft it is unethical to ask me to work for free.
@herb39hs
@herb39hs Ай бұрын
You preciate you bro but stand-alone sounds muddy oh and that into track to your video is 🔥🫡⚜️💯……and bro I just can’t get this MPC to make do what be doin jeez🤦🏽‍♂️😂
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@herb39hs thanks! It takes a little time to learn it.
@ronburg3663
@ronburg3663 Ай бұрын
akai needs to be more realistic about making better gear ...tell me why can i buy a i7 64 gb OF RAM computer for $500 bucks but i get a crappy processor and 2gb of ram in a mpc for $1500 ..i think people forget the mpc is a computer and akai is robbing the hell out of us ...im sticking with fl studio ..oh yeah the stems were free and sound a 1000% better
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I agree. My phone has a better processor and more RAM.
@olliech33bo15
@olliech33bo15 Ай бұрын
I was excited, just had a play. Bloody awful. Maybe good for getting bass tones and the odd sound. Pretty bad overall.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I would probably only use the standalone version if I intentionally wanted LoFi samples.
@ProducedBy10A
@ProducedBy10A Ай бұрын
Ill never pay akai for their trash plugins. I use ipad plugins and record directly to the mpc that way. Also stems on ipad is way better. Ill just do stems on ipad and then sample into mpc through the effects of the sp404mk2
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@ProducedBy10A not mad at that
@steviehustlingnetwork3129
@steviehustlingnetwork3129 Ай бұрын
Akai needs to stop. I understand it's about business, but in 2024 processing power, and ram should not be an issue. Constantly introducing machines with a slight bump up and processing power. Also Ram. Smdh. I don't care about new machines. I would much rather have a stronger system. We would pay for it in the 1990s we paid $4000 for a MPC 4000. I'm not saying they should charge that much. All I'm saying is that they can't use the price as an excuse. The new stems feature sounds horrible on the standalone because of the processing power come on now.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I agree.
@Zsklar
@Zsklar Ай бұрын
I think they sound terrible. Like a bad beta release. Way too many artifacts and sounds tinny. Even with editing i am yet to get anything usable. Back to the drawing board.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Zsklar I definitely understand.
@Zsklar
@Zsklar Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles I'm a little salty with InMusic when it comes to stems. I also got the Denon Prime 4 Plus as they promised "first ever usable stems on Pro DJ gear". All they did was release a beyond terrible beta version and never updated it. Now this for standalone? I think they are doing more harm than good by releasing this. It's a bad look. It's like saying, "well, we did it" while you can't even use it. It's a wack way to do business. They're going to need more powerful hardware to support this Stem stuff if they want to be "innovative" with standalone stems. Otherwise, just stop promoting it. Maybe they'll improve them somehow, but that's doubtful with the lower processing power on these units. We are all going to have to pony up more money for new hardware if we want stems im stand alone.
@darkstranjahjunglebunny3667
@darkstranjahjunglebunny3667 Ай бұрын
Yup the ain't moving the kneedle with this one so disopointing
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Zsklar it could have definitely been better but I think it’s due to the constraints of the hardware.
@Zsklar
@Zsklar Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles no doubt
@teashea1
@teashea1 Ай бұрын
I would never use the standalone version- awful. The desktop version is good...
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Standalone might be good if you are looking to make lofi samples.
@morris3481
@morris3481 Ай бұрын
Sound awful i m very disapointed of akai stem
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
It could have been a lot better.
@MusikalHuman
@MusikalHuman Ай бұрын
Standalo can sit TF down
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
I rarely use standalone myself.
@chubbyboy2242
@chubbyboy2242 Ай бұрын
Not worth the time it takes.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles 29 күн бұрын
Maybe
@Pod-e4m
@Pod-e4m Ай бұрын
I just wasted money on this shit! the stem tool in FL studio works, the MPC stem is dog shit. I'm gonna ask for a refund.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Pod-e4m should have watched this video first.
@ice4278
@ice4278 Ай бұрын
That is a bunch of bull wolud not want it for free.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@ice4278 it’s definitely different.
@roymoxley2587
@roymoxley2587 Ай бұрын
It’s very muddy sounding it’s go a long way to go
@miscmisc1023
@miscmisc1023 Ай бұрын
@@roymoxley2587 eq
@carlsharpley6271
@carlsharpley6271 Ай бұрын
@@ice4278 it's not free it's an update you get cud you paid for the machine
@thegroove2000
@thegroove2000 Ай бұрын
Sounds horrible.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@thegroove2000 it’s not the best at all but it works and if you want lofi type samples it’s probably excellent.
@thegroove2000
@thegroove2000 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Kool you enjoy it.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@thegroove2000 I don’t normally use standalone so in my normal workflow I will never see it.
@thegroove2000
@thegroove2000 Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Have fun.
@MervinLogan
@MervinLogan Ай бұрын
Copy that! I purchased the stems of the akai web cite Iam not sure if it asked me for a email address but if I already have account it should automatically go to my account or no
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@MervinLogan if you were logged in yes it should but you can purchase as a guest also and it will send a serial for activation to your email address.
@Isdapappy
@Isdapappy Ай бұрын
I could be reaching but my ear is usually correct. Is that your beat in the new mpc 3.0 video on akai youtube channel. I hear your intro music in there. I know I'm not trippin. @GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@Isdapappy you have a great ear. It’s not my beat but it does contain the same sample.
@billymoluv
@billymoluv Ай бұрын
Keep it real..Straight trash..tracks bleeding into each other. The industry knows the danger of letting people break down their records and get perfect sound tracks after spending all that money in studio times with bands etc. The market would be buck wild and no one would get paid. That's like giving you a mustang factory to build the same car as ford and all you do is change the rims, seats and sterring wheels and then say its your invention. Bottomline they make money while these so called producers making all this garbage music destroying classic records, sampling etc. live a pipe dream and want the easy road to riches. Stop it. Old school grew up in the 80's and know how to make music while new school wants a free ticket...no dice!!
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@billymoluv that’s a very hot take specially coming from the 80s when many of your favorite producers were sampling music and not even paying the artists and producers they sampled across most genres of music. It’s true the quality of standalone stems or any stem separation isn’t 100% there but sampling is sampling. It literally started in the 80s you said you grew up in and actually the late 70s to be exact.
@billymoluv
@billymoluv Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Yeah but how can you say the artist didn't get paid? the producers and the artist doing the samples are all in the industry but locals get hit even today with copyright laws. Industry own all the samples streaming etc. We get bullshit dreams they sell us while they act rich but now you really hear the truth..They are all broke. I know a lot of industry cats. The idea was good for us but the truth is dre etc have full access to sample or use original tracks from the studios. There's will never sound like ours stuff.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@billymoluv you are talking about WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY. The facts will show that most music that was getting sampled all the way until almost 10 years after the streaming era began. There are tons of songs from the 80s and 90s that still have unpaid samples in them. As an example Mobb Deep’s Shook Ones literally just got claimed be Herbie Hancock in I believe 2020. That song came out in 1995. Not only that many artists like George Clinton and Jams Brown had to sue to get paid from sample usage. Digital Copyright claims is still very new and often gets it wrong still. Before you argue check your history. Producers in the 80s never told where they got samples from unless it was blatantly obvious and they didn’t pay for the vast majority of it. Wu-Tang 36 Chambers had no sample clearances until around 2019. A lot of artists have had songs retroactively pulled over old samples not being cleared. Please do your research. Sampling is sampling.
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
@@billymoluv just one side note most of the new artists today are not starting on major labels. And many aren’t going into major studios to record. XO Tour Life was recorded in a living room. Major labels don’t play nearly the same part as they use to.
@billymoluv
@billymoluv Ай бұрын
@@GhettoStyles Yeah that's real because it became a big issue because they were saying you can't copyright a beat etc.
@88keyz
@88keyz Ай бұрын
Thanks! You saved me some time this exactly what I would have done to test it along side fl studio and Koloa stems separation 🫡👍🏾🫡
@GhettoStyles
@GhettoStyles Ай бұрын
Appreciate the super thanks.
@88keyz
@88keyz Ай бұрын
@GhettoStyles your welcome and thank you appreciate ya 🙏🏾 🙌🏽💪🏾🙏🏾
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