MPC X VS MPC X SE - DOES 4 GIGS OF RAM EVEN MATTER?

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TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TEST THE MPC X AND THE MPC X SE TO SEE IF 4 GIGS OF RAM EVEN MATTERS. I WILL RUN A COUPLE OF TEST TO SEE IF THE MPC X SPECIAL EDITION REALLY BLOWS THE OG MPC X OUT THE WATER OR NOT.
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TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TEST THE MPC X AND THE MPC X SE TO SEE IF 4 GIGS OF RAM EVEN MATTERS. I WILL RUN A COUPLE OF TEST TO SEE IF THE MPC X SPECIAL EDITION REALLY BLOWS THE OG MPC X OUT THE WATER OR NOT.
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60" Tripod- amzn.to/35ueC4i
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[@Kmosleymusic]

The mpc should have at least 32 gb . Memory doesn’t cost much at all these days . Or they could at least allow the ram to be upgraded by the consumer.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s would be dope

[@dennishunter5552]

Great point.

[@alchemistrpm82]

It doesn’t need anywhere near 32gb. But unfortunately Akai seems to be going the Apple route in terms of user upgrades for now.

[@ProbeRoket]

Exactly. Memory is needed as you can see. 32 would be perfect.

[@DaMixWizard]

Can u upgrade the memory on the X SE?

[@CreamOfBeats]

These new MPC’s are computers. I love my X, but spending $2500 on 6-7 year old technology with $200 worth of memory upgrades doesn’t make sense to me.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

It’s all about what work your you with budget space and need.

[@IanArizpeArroyo]

@@THEKINGOCAESARit’s not even about the budget or need. even if you’re rich you know paying 3k for 7 years old tech still is cringe

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@IanArizpeArroyo depends on if it’s worth it or not for you. Some people could take this gear and turn that 2k into 15k.

[@IanArizpeArroyo]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR that’s fair. Unfortunately for now i’m not one of those people. and I’m a compsci nerd so old computers just gives ME the ick personally xD. great points and great video !! thinking of going with the live 2 or one since they’re the most bang for ur buck.

[@CEEPMDEE]

Made perfect sense to me. I bought one open box for $1680 no tax, Haa😄 Everything sealed in plastic, plastic still on screen and panels but was missing the IEC cable. I have like 5 in my wire stash.

[@phdbeats6318]

Thanks for doing this. For us sample based guys, the extra 2gb ram upgrade isn’t too big of a deal. I might just scoop the regular X then.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah man you will be just fine with sampling

[@alchemistrpm82]

Might want to test it with Keygroups

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@alchemistrpm82 I might do it

[@thomasbiggs5131]

You can buy mines if you like it’s still new looking and I will give you a deal as well

[@nine27]

@@thomasbiggs5131 still got it for sale?

[@gazfunk]

I'm still using my MPC LIVE 1. I just resample everything. I never run out of memory or cpu. Its a sampler so sample lol

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah that’s what I do but people don’t have to do that with other daws so when it comes to mpc some people lazy with it. But that is def a solution.

[@audiobunny1767]

exactly

[@MidlifeSynthesist]

Great video bro🤟🏻 thanks for taking the time to really go through it, cheers!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Funny man it’s getting great engagement but I was so tired when I made this video I didn’t think it was one of my best so thanks. Just trying to give good info.

[@robertsylvester9421]

My Live 2 gives a storage warning with 8 plugins loaded where my Key 61 does not. So, the extra RAM does make a difference.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yes it does but there are things you can do the help with that.

[@GhettoStyles]

This is exactly why I don't even feel 4GB of RAM is enough. It will get a lot worse if you run effects outside of the plugins. The Instruments have built in effects that will jump the RAM also.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah it is a lot I think that people really trying to use plug-in are going to be using controller mode always

[@GhettoStyles]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR I agree and on the flip side sample based producers have the world in their hands because 4GB is probably more than they will ever need.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@GhettoStyles def true

[@trumpetstylistic6772]

Great video! Thanks for taking the time to perform the comparison and explaining things in detail! I’m a OG MPC X user; your video only reinforces that I’m still very happy with my machine. Stay blessed

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks man and I hope you enjoying that thing because it’s def a beast still.

[@BrentODell]

Ive got a Live II, and the amount of stuff I can do with it continues to amaze me

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yes sir it really is amazing

[@docb3158]

Thank god someone doing and not hating on these machines!!❤

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Oh it’s been mad hate out here?

[@RaincloudReviews]

It’s like when a new iPhone or android comes out it’s only slightly better but u can basically do everything u need with the previous version

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah in that case you just keep what you have to the come out with the next design

[@2nigo945]

Good morning! really great video finally a useful concrete demonstrations that we use for a few things! personally the mpc x SE makes me really want .... I have the mpc x and the live retro 2 We quickly see the limit when using the plug in ... Thank you for your video! peace

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah bro the upgrade was needed.

[@masterwise7]

Hey Great video- Excellent insight -well spoken and understood Based off your persona and knowledge- you now have a new subscriber

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Wow how am I just now seeing this comment. Thank you for your support.

[@moonpie2637]

You can take away everything learned from the MPC x os capabilities and apply it to the MPC One and Plus. It's crazy how so much difference in price between the machines there is and how little difference there is between them all.

[@matthewgaines10]

Nice comparison. Got two dedicated computers for music creation and 3 DAWs. I do most of everything on MPCs (One, Live II, and Key 61). An iPad isn’t going to change that.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s dope I kinda fill the same way we will see how this logic looking tho.

[@Fergoose420]

Thanks buddy. Much appreciated.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Your welcome

[@JustChadMichael]

Honestly the extra Ram was made for loading more intensive, multilayered sampled Keygroups without your Project being overloaded is all, and obviously of course if you wanted to load up a BUNCH of one shot samples in your project as well, thats all really. a bunch of old project i had that i maxed out in Desktop mode with samples can now load on Standalone on the SE. Thank God.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s dope to hear

[@teashea1]

good video - well done - good style and content - I have been enjoying my MPC X SE this week ----- a great machine.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Word it is beautiful I must say

[@brianwredfern]

This is why I'm looking for a used mpc one because I use hardware being able to stack a bunch of plugins isn't necessary for a sequencer workflow with hardware.

[@amillionbeats1]

Tap in I have mint condition one that’s in the box 📦 and a wrap on the outside .

[@FrankieWildeDJ]

I use the MPC X and it's fully loaded with FABRIC XL. To be honest I only use Stage Piano as I produce trance and house so I use mainly my Dreadbox Typhon and Virus TI2 with the X. I can't justify the extra £1200 that it would cost me to upgrade to the SE unless I reallly wanted to use the synths in Fabric XL. If you can pick up a cheap X as it's worth it for the extra Q links and inputs/Midi ports for Hardware

[@brianwredfern]

@@FrankieWildeDJ I wound up using novation circuit tracks because I don't like looking at screens at all. But then I wind up sampling a lot on my phone with koala sampler. I used to own old school mpc's and I miss the smaller screen from the mpc 500.

[@seekingtruthonly.4299]

Thanks. I use the software on my Mac and the MPC opens instantly.😂

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

It crazy how fast they are in controller mode fight lol

[@edwardferry8247]

So useful🔥 thank you for publishing this 🙏

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

No problem

[@ruffnrede2]

Thanks, this really helps. There are a lot of people on the fence when it comes to what to buy

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I know it’s all about what you want what your budget is and what kinda space you got

[@Mill-on-da-track]

This might not mean anything to the pure standalone guys but all of the mpcs are on even playing field in controller mode. That being said I love these machines in either workflow I have a live 2 so I spend time away from my pc sometimes. I'll make something hot standalone and finish it off in controller mode with my vsts

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s the best of both worlds really and your right

[@unworthyServant08]

2 more gigs to unlock just two more tracks of Fabric XL is not much to pay over $300 for… there’s ways of working around that with the og X, though. Still, it’s a step in the right direction. We need to remember that most people who can afford the X, will likely have outboard synths they can midi up and record the audio into the X. This also reduces the amount of computing and processing the X (or any other MPC for that matter) needs to do. I’ve yet to come across producers who rely solely on AKAI’s plugins to make tracks. Thus: both the X and X SE are good as centerpiece for any non-mobile studio.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I think this is 💯

[@Mrjblanco1]

Dope video bro I know you enjoying those bad boys, that SE is b e a utiful, yeah logic on iPad I’ve been waiting… AKAI, and NI need to get on board and update their iPad apps 🔥 just got the CME X Key air, I’m ready!!!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I bet you are bro you stay ready lol

[@Mrjblanco1]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR and you know this maaan 😂 just got Komplete Collectors Edition been downloading and installing for days 🤦🏻‍♂️ looking forward to some next level

[@modtheblackmarvel]

Nice one ...but ..how much do you need to make a beat .😅😅😅 we use to make 🔥🔥🔥🔥 14 sec 12 bit ...

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Don’t worry ima do a video about work around

[@LiftedNoise]

Well done 🙌 i see you needed the extra wide lense angle for this one 😎

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Oh yeah them boys is chunky lol

[@13LackBerry1]

Great content 🎉 FINALLY! THANK YOU FAM!✊🏿💪🏿💯💥 #MPCSHAWN

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

No problem glad it helped

[@kreativetechnologistsaka882]

Well. I am going to find myself a used X. Nice comparisons

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks

[@Official360]

Listen, I was a poster boy on 2GB's being enough. I understand the "vintage argument" on making what you have work back in the day, bu after learning the ins & outs of these modern MPC's the RAM IS NOT ENOUGH! Specifically if you use autosampler.

[@Saintknick]

Great video!! I think that you would have been an excellent teacher in school BTW good job of owning up to your previous mistake. I wish that Akai would just stop stringing users along with small updates like 2gigs to 4 gigs, next it will be 6 gigs for more money. The cost of ram is tiny, why not 8 or 12 gigs?? And where is that linear arranger ? Oh well, it is what it is Keep up the good work

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah think I heard a linear arranger might be in 3.0 but we will see. And thanks for the kind words

[@unworthyServant08]

I said it on release day, that it would've made more sense for the special edition to have at least 8 gigs, and to have a more performant processor, for it to make any real sense (to me, at least). But the paint job is appreciated, still. That being said, I still prefer the classic color. scheme on the Live II Retro over the X SE. But that's more a preference thing.

[@DaveDaves]

I believe that like the smartphones these are all System on a Chip (SOC) meaning you can't just add more RAM the way you can for a desktop/laptop w traditional (non-soldiered in ) RAM . They'd have to design a new chip version and its expensive. But I still think they should allow you to swap that out / upgrade that card instead of selling you a whole new one

[@TechTronix01]

my one started before the one and the x se

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

My live did to ain’t that crazy

[@bruce_from_oregon]

Great experiments!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks bro

[@timothyherme4059]

Nice work

[@gumaryae]

👉🏾 Honestly, the benefit of the ram is NOT to speed times of booting up the mpc itself. The 4gb is for adding parameters for more room and other things that will be stored in the ram. In other words the 4gb is quite an improvement of you're not using a pc.. there would literally be no point to have a 32gb ram stick in your mpc neither. Most of y'all don't have 32gb in your pcs alone. You're gonna see the benefit once you really put that thing to the test. But by producing, not speed testing it. And also, when you're using it for a pc, the mpc x se becomes a music production CONTROLLER not a music production center. So it entirely relies on all of the hardware inside the pc while the mpcs hardware becomes idle.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

True but do you think it should have the industry standard which is 16 gigs maybe 8 gigs. Me myself I can make it do what it do. Plus there are great key groups that sound like instruments you can used to help out. What do you think?

[@jltbk5420]

Tbh. This debate on speed and what was added to the new units are a waste of time because 1. If things start getting cpu heavy you can just connect it to your computer as a slave which is what’s gonna happen anyway when it’s time to mix 2. If your an og mpc user you had to make these machines work with waaaaaaay less cpu and ram. Just be creative when your machine has limitations. I have a mpc x and I use it in standalone ONLY! And I never cpu or memory spike. I sample and connect outboard gear. Problem is when they keep adding vst now they’re trying to compete with a computer and tbh with those specs they’ll never compet. And that’s the problem with this debate. These Mpc are good. They don’t need more specs they need upgrades with sound quality imo. Keep up the good content Caesar. 🙏🏿

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@jltbk5420 thanks bro and great input too I think we are spoiled and think we need more than what we have but the truth is fire gets produced with these machines everyday. Plus like you said if you hook it to the computer you unlock it in a way. I do hear the debate about sound to I’d just say until they make it sound the way people want it to sound out the box. Learn how to make it sound that way by learning technique’s people should know anyway and I honestly don’t think they sound that bad. In my honest opinion. But hey thanks for the convo bro. I like respectful intelligent conversations.

[@jltbk5420]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR 100% true. I honestly feel like people expect these machines to make a hit for them. The sauce is behind the machine controlling it. And you’re right they don’t sound bad and that’s another conversation/video of its own. But from a content creator’s standpoint I get the reason for the video. To help people make a decision on either machine. IMO I’d skip the bells and whistles, if you’re in the market for an mpc x. Cash in on the opportunity to get the older model at a really good bargain because 9/10 all everyone is gonna do is hook it up to a computer in post anyway. I do everything Stan alone then mix in the box. But again keep doing your thing I enjoy seeing content creators/ producers/ beat makers giving honest feedback

[@HenJayMusic]

He forgot to run the "Load Multiple Keygroups & Drum Programs" to see how much it can handle. The true power of an MPC has ALWAYS been about Drum Programs & Keygroups.

[@markjackman1712]

Great video thanks for doing the comparrison! A little part of me has always wondered what the board looks like inside and if there are ram slots (where the X SE has an extra ram stick) or if the memory is soldered directly onto the board

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

It’s soldered to the board. There are people who have changed the ram I think but they have experience with soldering boards.

[@markjackman1712]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR thats good to know!

[@60beatsCrimeFamilyEnt]

YO, THE SE HAS AAAAAALL THE SOUNDS THE MPC X HAS JANK STOCK SOUNDS, I HAVE TO LOAD UP MY PADS WITH WAVS FROM ELSE WHERE, CAN MPC HAVE THE FL SOUNDS, I USE LOGIC BUT LETS BE HONEST FL WAS MADE FOR HIP HOP, my mpc live 2 is the BEST THO I LOVE THAT THING, the live 2 Tops All!!!

[@MrCosmicVictory]

great video! perfect details for comparison. i sample mostly, so the regular X would be more than enough.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

yes sir if that all you can do then the regular x is enough

[@Ashfaq1999]

Great video. Both X machines are dope 👊

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I think so as well

[@Ashfaq1999]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Many Thanks 👌

[@chrissmith2492]

That beat is fire

[@davidrsimmons3214]

One thing that no one talks about is standalone. There Hass to be a way to measure what stand along with mean. For me that is eight audio tracks. Eight plug-ins with a song 3 to 5 minutes. I have tested that on my MPCX and was very disappointed that with eight audio tracks over three minutes long. I got one plug-in and I was at 90 something percent memory usage. This should definitely be addressed in future NBC X.

[@headdrumzmusic]

Damn that's crazy, very disappointed to hear. I'm usually doing much less on the live then sending files to Logic to spice up and finish

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I usually just get my ideals done quickly then use a daw to make the song but if I could I would like to use the mpc beginning to end.

[@ComplexAutist]

I think it will show the main difference as a standout benefactor when stems goes stand alone, Im at a loss at how they plan to do it with 2gb ram.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You might be right we will have to wait and see

[@soniksource]

akai should be ashamed for not making the ram upgradable. i rather pay for software than to be stuck with static ram in 2023. Atleast apple gives you the option before you buy their computers. All good tho. I love my OG X. I’d just go DAw mode for more instruments anyway.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah if you do that it really doesn’t matter which one you use.

[@EnochLight]

Both X and the X “SE” have solid state factory storage (they’re both Mini SD-Cards).

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Ok thanks for letting me know. I just know they are not as fast as the ssd that come in computers now of days

[@palimo3653]

Bro is it me but from what I seen the SE beat the X starting up by like a split second in the first test.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You are correct there is really no difference when it comes to boot up. I tested it way more times than what was on video too.

[@tbonebeats6429]

I saw the same thing. The SE won by a split second. I thought he misspoke.

Do both have speakers built in?

Can you upgrade the ram in both models?

[@kalimaa999]

There's a setting that lets you use your external drive as Ram ... I think it's called disk streaming. Any idea if this changes anything?

[@EnochLight]

On Force? No, not as far as loading plugins is concerned. But it does allow you to record up to 8 stereo audio tracks for as long as you want.

[@RobPB-f1z]

Jack O’Donnell has a lot of money - he just buys companies, he has probably no clue of the development of instruments. I do own an X FE (first edition) and there are things nobody would do, when creating something like this. The two FS ports at the front...why at the front? The headphone jack on the RIGHT hand side? - the cables come out on the left hand side of a headset... the main buttons (play, stop, etc) is so flimsy - it broke after about two years... a replacement of the 1$ plastic piece is rediculous - I glued it and taped it - works somehow....

[@fragmatic1964]

One of the best comments so far...

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I agree its not perfect but they do what they need to do. the ports on the front are for you guitars and instruments such as synths or outboard instruments. the headphone jack is a lagit observation. Im also sorry that your button broke on you that is also a lagit gripe.

[@christopherpederson1021]

Do the samples still cut out when played fast? That's what I was getting on the Live 2. I play fast finger drumming and the Live 2 would cut out samples sometimes.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@christopherpederson1021 you might have to go into program edit and change the sample to one shot. Also you program could be set up to mute the previous pad when a new one is hit. Under program edit you would want to change the program to poly instead of mono.

[@soniksource]

Nice video btw bro!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks bro I appreciate it.

[@HubertCopeland-mu3eh]

Happy returns,family I thought yall stayed low ,over the debate over EASKI, but always Maturity trumps misunderstanding...Thanks on that , I saw on Dj Rock Cee channel that the X starts chip out and loses sounds when maxed out .Can you test this on both units,if its true??? for the community, BTW ,how do you feel if Akai goes Subscription Based 😮with the 3.0 software.Thanks your Video is very intuitive...Family

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I will check out his video and then test it if I can. As far as subscriptions I’m not down for that I believe that if I pay for anything I should have ownership over it. But akai will do what they think is best for the company. I see apple turning to this and I dislike it a lot. Thanks for all the kind words. As far as anything else we going to stay positive and move forward with peace and love.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Could you do me a favor and reply with the exact title of the video you are talking about on his channel. I can’t seem to find it.

[@01blaval]

1 gig is enough if the audience is right…

[@quickstrike209]

But do they sound different from each other? Okay wait a minute just from this video. I can hear there's a difference in sound from each unit. What the hell? MPCX SE sounds way better

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

It has different converters from what I heard the og X has an arm chip converting sound but the mpc X se has burr brown converter I think. I’m not 100% positive.

[@quickstrike209]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR can you hear difference?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@quickstrike209 to be honest I wasn’t really paying attention I’ll have to pull them up again

[@AKAIMPCJUNKIE-gr5fm]

Excellent video, maybe this video will help too shut up all those SE haters.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Hopefully lol

[@restwisdom]

Are these advantages worth this overpayment?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Depends on how you look at it. If you own an X I would say no, but if you don’t mightiest we’ll get the best one of you can. Or you can say forget getting the new one lets save some money get the old one and use the money I would of spent to get a synth, or outboard gear etc. it’s depends on you and what you want and need. I don’t own an X so I would get the new one because if I could afford to get it then That means I can splurge a little bit and it would be my trophy. The mpc one is a great mpc and the live 2 is the best one still to me in the lineup and they both cost a fraction of what the X cost but can get you the same results so yeah. It just depends on the person.

[@restwisdom]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR thank you!

[@eyesintheskies]

To true but the white does look the bomb 💣

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

The retro is the shit

[@CygnusOrb]

The RAM is great, but what's more important (to me) is how fast is the RAM port? Ideally having double RAM should mean loading more instruments and samples. If that's the case I'm all about it.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

does not really load more plugins but it can handle 8 of the new plugins no problem.

[@s.gharavi1614]

My phone has 6 GB of RAM. And it fits in my pocket.

[@captivesojourner]

there has to be a way to expand the ram

[@fotpjusto457]

Let’s be real. Will you be using this in stand alone? This thing will probably always be near a computer

[@bbsoundsb9579]

IMO, I think having the typical limitation of legacy MPC’s and other vintage gear for that matter is the challenge and drive to creativity. We now basically have a DAW in box and we worry or complain About not having this or that. I’m just surprised we are not at a point where we can literally build our drum machines like we can with desktop computer pc’s. Look at the direction the Push 3 Stand alone and the non stand alone are going. With non stand alone, you can upgrade to stand alone . Does that make sense? No matter what, you still need to bring your work to the computer to finish it off .

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

in most cases yes and if your doing it professionally yes. You could get away with doing it in the machine if you know what your doing.

[@TranceCore3]

the internal memory is flash memory (it's literally a micro SD card and you shouldn't touch it), it's just as fast as an SSD, maybe slightly slower. flash memory is quick, NVMe and SSDs both are types of flash memory

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I think is much slower if you take any top rated ssd drive and put it in a computer or anything the load times are significantly faster. We see this in thing like the new ps5. Also when you take a old laptop in because it’s slow one of the first things they do to make it faster is put the os on a fast ssd drive. I did this with an old Mac book and it’s night and day how fast it boots now. The speed is not even close. So although they have flash storage I can confidently say that it’s not fast flash storage.

[@TranceCore3]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR The only reason it's faster is because of the SATA protocol which is faster than usb, and the NVMe protocol which is also faster than USB. neither MPC uses the NVMe protocol, there's only a SATA port in these devices. However, the operating system is installed onto the internal drive and once you open the unit it's very easy to access. Just don't format it, it's encrypted.

[@ReckyD]

Is it possible to increase the RAM on the MPCX from 2gb to 4gb?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@ReckyD I think there has been people who have done it but they have technical skill like working with computer boards and soldering. And I don’t know how well it worked. I know it’s out of my level of upgrading.

[@TheDougSpot]

What happened with the boot up is that the x was looking for a drive that was no longer there. You clearly have a factory folder or factory content on that drive that should be on the system drive. That’s why it took so long

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I know that’s why I ran it with and without the drives. Thanks for showing love man.

[@dubmaverick69]

We really need to hear the converter in the SE compared to the X, it seems that Burr Brown converter is inside the SE, this is the same brand that was used in the old mpc's but people are still not happy with it. It would be great for you to do a test of the same signal coming out from all 8 outputs on these machines, output 3-8 really do not have the same quality as master output, this will help drive the message to Akai that they are really cutting corners with the hardware, its sad because the workflow is incredible.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

There are a lot of channels that have done this comparison I believe. I still think that the quality is good on the mpcs maybe it’s not top notch compared to the older ones I don’t know. I never owned a legacy mpc but what I can tell you is that if you hook it up to a class compliment interface a good one problem solved. I understand the whole converter argument but i also know that I can make the mpc sound the way I want it to sound

[@dubmaverick69]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR The only proper class compliant 8 channel converter that is working with no pops and clicks is the SSL Big Six, just got that this week, non stop testing and working good, most other ones that mpc forums have on that list are 2 channel, which aint gone cut it, the RME UCX 2 does not work either, lot of pops and clicks, this might help people who want really 8 channels. X is $2500, they got to fix the converter, they know that, what would be the point of class compliant if they did not know they got issues. Look at Rossum and what he had done with SP 1200 and he is not selling like akai is , so it can be done. I make the MPC sound the way I want it by sampling on the Emu and dragging the samples into X and just never use the ins or outs, its is just a glorified sequencer, love the work flow and that is it. We need to raise the bar here, yes we can make the new MPC sound better in a proper studio, we know how much that stuff costs. Those Xpansion packs would sound 10 times better with proper converters

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@dubmaverick69 but the question is how are you going to get an akai to do that when majority of people who own an X are happy with it. Maybe it could sound better but you got to admit that the workflow is ten times better then the old ones. And as far as the sound are we saying the sound is 100% better on the old ones or are we talking like 10% or maybe 15% better. It’s not a huge difference to me but even professionals are saying this so it really a point of view thing. People who I’ve talk to who were using these things back in the day said they were running these thing through out board gear or console anyway so isn’t that the same way people are telling us to do it now. Use the out cause the problem isn’t with the outs it’s the inputs when sampling. The new mpc have a super clean a to d conversion on them they use high end converters the burr brown like you said with the same component also used in universal audio inputs so what ever you sample in is exactly what your going to get with the new ones. All in all I understand peoples concerns but the only way to make akai listen it to submit your claim to them or by not buying the products at all. But that would mean that you think the mpc is trash and hardly no one agrees with that even the people who are mad about the converters because what the mpc may lack it makes up in yes workflow and all the people I’ve talked to said they would take the work flow over having it sound 10 % inferior to the old ones. This is why the rossom might sound good but no one wants it because first it’s $4000 and the workflow is horrible compared to anything on the market right now. I appreciate you being respectful and having a conversation about this like an adult bro. I just don’t agree with everything being said about the converters. People who complain about the sound of the mpc X still religiously use the X and the other mpcs to this date. If it was such a problem they would be using there 3000s and their X would be on the shelf but I see them with the 3000 on the self and the X front and center. Pretty much all them. If we want workflow and all the sound we probably can have it but it’s going to cost. Me my self wouldn’t mind if they made a high end mpc the way the professionals want it. I know that I wouldn’t be able to afford it just like many couldn’t afford the 3000 when it came out. But just like the debate of plugins vs outboard gear. You buy what you can afford and what can get the job done. Then if you make money from it you can upgrade to the outboard gear when it is within your means. Even tho the mpc X se is 2500 I still think that is cheap compare to what a 3000 would cost with inflation. For what it can do right the ssl big six 6 Chanel mixer is the same price as an mpc live 2. Anymore channels than that then we are coming close to mpc X prices and it’s just a console to rought sound in and out of it that’s it. Not a lot of bells and whistle but what it does well it excels at. I feel this way about the mpc’s what they have always been known for is hard hitting drums, sampling, sequencing, and being a control center in the studio. We still have all those things except for one in the eyes of what I would say is a minority of people so it’s subjective. But music is subjective. So your not wrong but the people who are happy with them are not wrong either.

[@the_teknomads]

It's a big deal to me! I use the MPC X for LIVE shows. and I need to load an entire 2 hour + performance into the X. The 2 GB of ram was a major limitation. ALSO; HUGET TIP HERE! If you format an INTERNAL hard drive, and make sure you use a quality SSD ( I have a 2 terabyte Kingston ) and pre-load your stuff on that internal SATA drive, it will load on the First Gen X just as fast. The bottle neck is external USB / CF cards.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

yeah you right about that because i have a 1 tb in my mpc live 2 and it loads faster than the mpc x and se

[@the_teknomads]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Yup! SATA transfer speeds are 4x USB or CF. ALSO, another PRO-TIP: The MPC-X / Live runs an embedded LINUX system, so it will recognize EXT3 format drives, and they have WAY better indexing than a FAT or FAT32 formatted drive. For best performance use Linux to format your drives and move files.

[@Gothikaelektronika]

I have a 256gb ssd installed in my Mpc x original and it beat both of them at start up. External drive is always going to be slower.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Def that X isn’t mine so I can’t install one in it

[@nnm7761]

yea bro, if you installed the external hard drive direct into the bottom of the unit of the original MPC X, it would boot up fast af. It just having it in that external enclosure that slows it down. take off the bottom plate and install an SSD in that MPCX and you'll see it's fast.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

that really should not matter tho because the os for the mpc is on the internal drive. so boot up should not be affected that much because of harddrive. only when searching should it slow down.

[@nnm7761]

@@THEKINGOCAESARI see what you're saying but the Boot up process includes loading sample packs or whatever from whatever libraries you have on that drive. Saying if it's not on the internal drive it'll probably run a little bit slower because the internal drive connections, if you install it internally, the connections allow for a faster transfer rate versus the external USB connection it's a little bit slower. Basically it's a different type of connection internally.

[@nnm7761]

@@THEKINGOCAESARAnyway, you got both and then which one you like better? I got the original black one I kind of like this one to be honest with you

[@cardbored_]

Does the extra ram give me extra skill too? Because I feel like that's what I really need :P

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

naw sadly i wish it did but I can see you being sarcastic too so you already know it dont lol

[@NickDellas-h2p]

This might be the most stupid question, Can you use a MPC x And a MPCX se together? Is there any benefits of having 2 of the same? I have the se but can get an x cheap. Would you or do you have two MPC x and MPC x se Thanks I love your videos!!!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@NickDellas-h2p I had them for video purposes only. I wouldn’t get two because one is enough. If you have the mpc se then you don’t need an x. The only reason I could see having two is if you have a second setup maybe a standalone set up and a controller mode set up. Other then that I think maybe the live two is the only other mpc I would pair with the mpc se. Or if you use the mpc x standalone and you want a computer mpc then the key 37 is perfect for controller mode.

[@NickDellas-h2p]

Thank you so much for your advice

[@styx3styx]

Je garde M'a MPC X rien de transcendant sur la SE .

[@Iamnumb17]

Can't find the standard mps x anywhere

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You got to on resell websites now to get them they not selling them. Brand new in stores anymore

[@Disisions]

My boy got double scammed by Akai.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I don’t think I got scammed I don’t own either one lol. They are loaners from zzounds. But what I would say is that if I had the money I would buy and X because even though I use my mpc live 2 stand alone if I had this in my studio either one I would use them mostly in controller mode and that really unlocks the possibility of what these things can do.

[@quickstrike209]

Haaaaa 😅

[@dwaynemusik]

Akai knew when the x came out at first It should have been in the retro color I see it as a cash grab to come out years later with the retro color they know some are going to buy the next one just for the color even tho they already have the original x or the live and other versions

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

they did upgrade it a little bit but I do kind of agree with you. I think that this is a place holder until we get what ever they will release with 3.0

[@jahstafari4606]

i'm at minute 7 .....great rewiev ....if i hade money i would find some tech guy to dismantle it and put in 16 Gb and some super chip system so that you would have unlimited workflow for ...hm ever? ....what else you need in it not to be restricted and have to go buy new one ? 😅 every gear they make missing some thing and is not complete

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

even tho you have limitations there are ways to get around them it just takes a little more work thats it. but yeah you can still make it a power house if you want to.

[@jahstafari4606]

.....how many plugins could it work with if hade 16Gb?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

if it had 16 gigs it would be alot more than 8

[@BMakk205]

You should of timed different plug-in load time

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I could have done that but the video was already long lol I would have had y’all here all day bro lol.

[@ONEHENDRIX]

The 2 gig and 4 gig of memory is Solid State RAM.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s what it is well it should be much fast then.

[@gotmoresoul]

Nearly $3k for what boils down to weak cheapass computers with a modern day limit of 8 plugins. The greatest scam in beatmaking equipment since the Beat Thang.

[@jahstafari4606]

them is boostin up cars ....why dont we boosting our gear? ....anyone done that?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Im not sure what you mean bro

[@latenite3931]

when connected to a pc, do they differ much or nah? i plan on using it on a PC mostly. should I go for the SE or the X?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

If you plan on using on the pc mostly then the regular X would be fine cause you would be using what ever your pc specs are but if you are going to use it in standalone getting the se is what I would recommend.

[@RickRijuanaPro]

Dope breakdown because I never really considered the limits other than 8 audio tracks. This made me think older MPCs were more analog. The new MPCs are more CPU. How does it handle a full mix with EQs, compressors, stereo separation, saturation and delays??? I currently use the desktop software and the iMPC Pro app for iPad.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

The best at the end was mixed on the mpc se you can’t really hear the full beat but that has all that on it and it did fine.

[@JonEnitro]

A brand new MPC X is $2299. A brand new MPC X SE is $2499. I say go with what you want. I'm going with the new one😊

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I hope you get it and enjoy it

[@JonEnitro]

@THEKINGOCAESAR Appreciate the love. I've been producing on FL Studio for over 15 years, and before that, many drum machines and workstation keyboards. Now, I will finally have my own MPC, and I hope that it propels me even further in production.

[@TheRealCalijokes01]

Funny my mpc x never took that long ever

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah they both took a while but that was real time.

[@almadixon-cider31]

So, MPC's Now Are Basically Weak Computers Dedicated To Run MPC DAW Software? 🤔 At Least It Has A Touch Screen And In A Stand Alone Form Factor.🤷

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

The mpcs are dope. They are the best of both worlds to me powerful enough to make music standalone but when you need to unlock it then hook it up to a computer and let it fly as a controller.

[@crazzylee]

The CPU on these machines needs to be updated into an ARM architecture with the exact specifications as the Apple M1/M2 chip if they intend on remaining relevant as a Pro level music production centerpiece. The M1 chip can do hundreds of plugins with no glitches.

[@X-101]

bro you don't need a computer cpu for a drum machine............................................. you're playing samples most not editing 4k video, really people have some strange ideas

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I don’t think they need to go to crazy to get these things were they would be the ultimate standalone unit. They are already the best controller and standalone units pretty much out. You can do some crazy stuff with them. But to make then super future proof they don’t need to go crazy.

[@crazzylee]

@@X-101 it already has a quad-core CPU. Might as well increase it's ability.

[@s.gharavi1614]

​@@X-101 the issue is that a drum machine isn't worth $2,500. So if Akai wants to make $$$ then they are directly competing with DAWs. They realized this a half a decade ago. So yeah, it needs 32GB of RAM. 4GB is an absolute joke for serious production and makes me want to chuck the whole thing out the window on a daily basis. My phone has 6 GB of RAM. And it fits in my pocket. There's no excuse that Akai. They should make a low end hip hop product for sampling folks and a high end DAW competitor for professional level producers.

[@s.gharavi1614]

​@@THEKINGOCAESARtheir competing with DAWs and in comparison their completely out matched.

[@DonBrowsing]

Asd time stamps and your videos will get more views

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I will have to do that sometimes it be hard tho cause I do it all by my self.

[@Iredidv]

Are the internal ssd drives the same?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Think they are the same

[@davidgoodwin8101]

No it doesn’t I own both X and ES and frankly the the MPC X seens to work faster

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

No it doesn’t impact speed but it impacts the amount of instruments you can use in stand alone

[@austinnichols3557]

ummm 👀

[@ONEHENDRIX]

It looked like the SE beat the X on the turn on. Maybe you meant to say that the other way.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Probably I was really tired when I shot this video

[@ONEHENDRIX]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Definitely wasn’t a criticism. I thoroughly enjoyed the video. And you clarified some things for me. I’ll just stick with my MPC X Gold and try to mod it myself, by soldering a 16 gig and see if I can update the snapdragon cpu.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@ONEHENDRIX if you manage to pull that off you should def document it.

[@eyesintheskies]

Can the x not be expanded to 4gb

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

not the og mpc x

[@eyesintheskies]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR oh just the SE o.k not that it matters 2gb is a ton. Im rocking a asr10 with 4mb 🤣 Will get it expanded to 16 eventually 😃

[@jahstafari4606]

14:14 tnx ...a lot of money for little progess if u ask me .....they could have made it double speed for that money ....soeveryone will be waiting for new one ...for years? and what will that be? hmm .....im getting tyred of this ....they dont want to make standalone that is right

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

they are they just giving us a variety of this gen before the next gen is out I bet.

[@tinychamberz]

milking customers, just like apple etc. we need someone new to innovate and force these guys to actually use and do new stuff.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@tinychamberz I think new things are coming down the pipe line just not ready yet

[@R.G.777.]

This the comparison i wanted to see, thanks bro but why you get both though

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

They are both loaners I own neither of them zzounds sent them to me to test. I own a mpc live 2

[@R.G.777.]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR ok bro thanks again for the comparison. When you think about it the X supposed to be a studio centre piece so there's no reason not to hook it up to a computer in controller mode for beats that have multiple plugins. The more I think about it the X SE isn't needed unless people want the free plugins, the extra Ram is more of a necessity for a device like the live as it's more likely to be used on the road. Just my opinion anyway. Keep the content coming bro👊🏾

[@streetiife9111]

Good video 💯🫡

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thank you

[@Webzterr]

My X boots up way faster than yours.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You tested it next to the one I got and you won. That’s dope. My video got you testing stuff now that’s what they are supposed to do. Good stuff.

[@lpn369]

That se will be delaying soon bro..all the same

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You probably right we will just have to wait and see.