Mr. Ben van Kerkwyk: Unexplained Egypt and a Tale of Two Industries

[@Chuck8541]

Ben is becoming an encyclopedia of knowledge in his own right. Just like Randall.

[@alexbuilds706]

Absolutely riveting Ben. Those hours just flew by!

[@alryan8609]

Just Fascinating! Keep up the Great Work Ben 👍!

[@ImTMPZv]

Im a carpenter/high end joiner, i find this topic absolutely fascinating. I work too .5mm, this level of precison in such hard material is just incredible. Two points.. The use of lubrication throughout the cutting processes would be essential.. watching a hilti wall mounted core drill in mordern times, used commonly in the commercial sector on sites will show you just how incredible these examples are..an thats cutting through modern concrete with diamond cutters..it still takes a long time. Lastly..would this not scream out the potential use of wheels in this period of time..if they're doing such advanced tasks. Fascinating..brilliant as always Ben

[@Mrbfgray]

WAY beyond wheels, it requires advanced bearings, rigid linear and rotary bearings, serious tool metal alloys, on and on... As U suggest--concrete is easy compared to granite. Under ground hard rock mining still today is only minimally "machined", expensive holes drilled just big enough to load with explosives or occasionally very expensively bored tunnels.

[@synx6988]

great stuff! This was actually very concise and straight to the point compared to most of his videos. And I really love his videos. But this was even better

[@martinezlucia101]

I’ve heard all of the stuff from Ben before on his channel but still breaks my brain!!!!

[@Dtansing1]

AWESOME BEN= excellent work. I totally agree with you, civilisation= ancient history. We are all behind you to keep pursuing this quest. I truly believe that history needs to be readdressed. Technology is what we need. BUT! dont forget, many people hold the old world in their power and dont want to or wish to share the ancient technology of humans either. We are in an amazing time in history. Please keep going.

[@Shibnibby]

Omg i have the day off because its raining...press youtube..new unchartedx video ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@mikehole1100]

Absolute top tier presentation, good sir! Well articulated, well explained and well argued. Just an amazing feat of maintaining focus and clarity through all of the technical details and inconsistencies as well as the archeologistical schisms, and of keeping your audience engaged through an obviously sincere passion (which I myself know) for a greater understanding of the mysterious nature and history of our world,, and of the (super- ?)people ultimately responsible for these marvellous constructions. Kudos and many thanks to everyone involved.

[@PCG2022]

💯❤💯 From the UK. Been fascinated with your work over the past few years and what a great presentation. Just what we needed on the Cosmic Summit 2024! I have been struggling to find time to watch everyone, but this one and Malcolm's 5-hour-long is a must, and Paul Schatzkin, and Randell Carlson..haha. PCG

[@roobait4126]

Well done. Good presentation

[@cosmicsummit]

Good stuff, huh? Wish I could get it out earlier.

[@bigbadaardwolf]

Ben's evidence is so compelling and so well organized. Thank you for providing this!

[@JacobEdwards-hy1fd]

Amazing is an understatement!

[@josephrener1]

Fantastic research 👏 Thank you 🎉

[@ConorAndersen]

No worries, mate, you did a fantastic job, well worth the wait, believe me. 👍

[@-K-K-1]

You spelled Egypt incorrectly in the title, the talk is too important to have frivolous errors like this one, hope you fix it, because anthro folk are already targeting this video.

[@deanwalker7216]

Ben… appreciate what you do and your compassion about it. 💪🏻

[@rhapsody2m]

Wonderful and enlightening presentation thank you. That’s a lot of information and a lot of unanswered questions, I’m so happy that you’re asking the right questions seem prepared to delve deep for the answers. Utterly spellbinding.

[@stephenfitz_]

If you heat Natron at 861 ...it can Melt Granite. It breaks down the crystal which is the glue I think they were moulding making cutting with proficiency. We only think the stone had to come from one piece. And be cut cold They didn't need some lost technology. I need start channel. I'm telling you this because you seek answers.

[@rhapsody2m]

Thank you. I don’t have much knowledge of natron but I will now seek to understand.

[@stephenfitz_]

@@rhapsody2m ok. Thank you too. Something to help further. Alchemy. Natron / Sodium Carbonate can be used in the leaching process for Gold mining. We currently use Cyanide which damages the Gold particles on the Nano scale. Using Natron preserves the golds energetic properties. Natron when added to water..builds an electric charge,absorbing the positive ions from the atmosphere. I believe the ancient Egyptians were using the mysterious vases for this purpose...how, im not yet, maybe you can tell me one day. I think the 'unfinished chamber' in the great pyramid was hold a Natronic solution and somewhat melted the rock inside the chamber. Ben, I hope you're reading this too 🙂

[@slidingcarlos]

Unbelievable Ben. I think you are one of a kind out there💪 thanks for what you do

[@rcg7262]

Great video - I can hear Flint Dibble screaming for Keanu from here

[@dubselectorr345]

Fantastic presentation Ben !

[@ferencjozsef4479]

Ben the man. What a journey!

[@jimijames6449]

The block at 1hr13mins. I’ve seen before on old documents from very early findings. It looks like it would fit very easily into Land of Chems theory as a moving mechanism that acts as a shut off valve for water or fluid. Fascinating.

[@ellomirza]

The thing that gets me about Egypt as I was taught about it in high school history class is how unremarkable they were militarily. They lost battles and never really dominated or projected power outside of their little delta. Supposedly they were so advanced in so many ways as to have built these pyramids etc but they got their asses kicked by some villagers over and over again. Just on a human level if you can marshal and manage the workforce required to build a pyramid surely you could muster up and train an army that doesn’t get its ass handed to it by some sandal wearing slingshot sporting olive oil drinking villagers.

[@DoomCast]

The Dynastic Egyptians were rich farmers living in the ruins.

[@swingshift.]

I see Zahi Hawass is in the comments " SHAME ON YOU "

[@anthonydean3456]

IM A SCIENTIST IM A SCIENTIST. LMAO ZAHI IS A CLOWN 🤡

[@Shaman711-jh]

Brilliant! 🙏👊

[@baneverything5580]

Thank you Ben for your hard work.

[@-Mastaofmurda-]

Great stuff thank you for your work

[@David-ey9jg]

Brilliant lecture.

[@thomasthetankengine2257]

Always love 😂 EGPYT❤

[@MrTL3wis]

"Do *that* with your pounding stones. See how you go.", LOL!!!

[@kamehamehaX300]

It’s not just precision structures, but also drill holes found globally. Ancient china has examples of turned jade called CONG and Bi, I have a shorts video on my channel of one. This example is also funnily enough dated to 25-3500 BC

[@mikelee9886]

Wonderful presentation! Been waiting for this! I tried to sign up to watch it on Cosmit Summit but couldn't find a way to just pay to see it on time. Next time I guess. The work you are presenting is truly groundbreaking. The precision you and Dunn and others have called attention to was the beginning, but now with the precision measuring you've done, the documentation of it, the electron microscope work... it's the smoking gun for a pre-historic advanced civilization. There is no argument against this, just copium.

[@Apetetrek]

thers an interesting peice of basalt in the british museum which has a cleanly drilled out round hole,and whats interestin is near to the hole is two missed attempts of drilling and appears that a fast spinning core drill has just touched and slipped on the surface ,and then moved to drill thru another spot close by,and its actually drilled thru some carvings already existing on the surface,so might have been done after the original carving,whats interesting is the block has been in the museum since the 18th century.

[@zmarssojourner7435]

Can u please give a link to a pic of the item u r talking about? ty

[@finley.h]

If the prehistoric ancients had built a civilisation that possessed advanced machines, wouldn't that be a source of pride for all of us humans living today? It is unfair that only the Egyptian civilisation has a monopoly on its achievements. 😅🙏🏻

[@JacobEdwards-hy1fd]

One of his first statements is “these aren’t only found in Egypt”.

[@finley.h]

@@JacobEdwards-hy1fd Yes, if it had flourished, it would have been connected on a global scale as it is today.

[@-K-K-1]

Not if you built your whole career on telling others how great we really were and still are, apparently.

[@johnhughes8563]

Excellent video.

[@Mfcliff]

@cosmicsummit May I suggest an idea increase awareness around the subject? Take a tube similar in size to tube drill core #7 and place an overlay over it mimicking the spiral groove, then use some sort of tool similar to the shape of a pen, which you take to trace the now extremely difficult “maze”. The piece can rotate on a pedestal or stand and the tool or pen can be attached is string or cable. Basically if you veer off the path or groove it’s a jump scare or bell. One of those games 😊🎉

[@Guitar6ty]

Awesome presentation supports the Vedic postulation that there have been at least 3 advanced civilisations before the age of Kali Yuga.

[@rbu13]

Well, but what now? How will you deal with Zahi Hawass, who prevents a detailed exploration of the underground of the Sphinx and the entire plateau where the pyramids are?

[@jrk1666]

The stones can wait

[@rbu13]

@@jrk1666 What about my curiosity? I've been waiting for 30 years. Finally someone who thinks in context; he should be given a chance and access to the hitherto inaccessible corridors of the buildings on the Giza platform, where Lehner and Hawas conducted their research to the exclusion of the professional public.

[@cjay880]

@@rbu13 he's in his late 70s I'm more concerned over who ever replaces him. for all we know his replacement will continue the narrative for another 30 years. The only saving grace is how alot of younger scholars are questioning it so one day they will be in the place of power and will be able to uncover the truth but until then Zawhi won't ever budge and I doubt his replacement will either.

[@rbu13]

@@cjay880 Well, someone is probably funding him, and he sets the rules. So it will be enough if the donor gives the money to the one who will enable deeper research also for experts other than the current mainstream.

[@docintern]

Kudos

[@KartazonDream]

Ben rocks.

[@cosmicsummit]

He does!

[@mathewhale3581]

No schist

[@Shibnibby]

Who else has been to egypt here? Did you guys get the impression of warfare when standing at sites like elephantine island? Things arent just weathered, they look like they been literally blown up or hit by missiles. Im not saying thats whats happened im saying thats what it looks like, stuff is everywhere. Look like a warzone. So many things were left unfinished, the obelisk, alot of work on the casing stones, the osirion inner walls, the box in the serrapeum. When they keep asking why massive granite blocks? All i can think is protection. They new asteroids bombard earth and prepared for it. Hense the vast tunnel systems and unground complex. If meteors hit, thats exactly what we would do, but we'd use different materials. What if it was all for protection?

[@williamolivadoti3867]

P.52 [93]"Now his Majesty, his piety(?)1 is like that which Horus did for his father Osiris; making for him (Apis) a great coffin of granite." Vol 26, "Fasc. 1: Annales du Service des Antiquités de l'Égypte" (1926) by Service des Antiquités de l'Égypte author Gunn, Battiscombe, [Two] 'Misunderstood Serapeum Inscriptions"

[@michaelrapson]

It's no longer even a contest. Mainstream archeology is clinging to life by its fingernails in its death spiral of credibility.

[@Leeside999]

Yeah, those yt content creators have it all figured out, not the experts.

[@michaelrapson]

@@Leeside999 Experts at getting grants, sponsorship and tenure.

[@Leeside999]

@@michaelrapson Very few make any money in history/archaeology. Grants and sponsorship do not make money for any individual, it funds digs and research. The money is in alt history. Just look at Hancock. He's a multi-millionaire. And I can assure you that this UnchartedX guy makes far more money from alt history than your average historian/archaeologist.

[@michaelrapson]

My concern is that human knowledge is being held back by universities because they doggedly defend a shaky paradigm, and these independent people are having to correct the ledger. If they get rich well, I don't care so long as the truth emerges.

[@Leeside999]

@@michaelrapson that's a silly trope that has no basis in reality. All fields update. Every PhD thesis is an addition to what came before. Every college book gets an updated version with new info. The only dogmatism I see is from these yt 'lost ancient advanced civilization' content creators repeating the same debunked nonsense as fact.

[@jrk1666]

Reminder that in a machinist's shop an archeologist's opinion is of equal value to that of a proctologist

[@HarryWolf]

A proctologist studies sick arseholes, some archaeologists ARE sick arseholes . . . 😊 RIP John Anthony West.

[@casualviewing1096]

Reminder that a modern machinist’s opinion is of no value when studying a time period where nothing was done with modern machines.

[@Mrbfgray]

@@casualviewing1096 Wrong. They understand best what precision takes and hand tools, even modern power hand tools, *cannot possibly* accomplish such. If YOU don't get it then you clearly haven't even attempted to create a mechanical part out of anything substantial by ANY method.

[@justinevans7749]

​@@casualviewing1096 reminder that random people who make comments on KZbin videos opinion is more factually correct than the expert's opinion in the video.

[@mathewhale3581]

To be fair, the proctologist will know how to widen existing holes…

[@nfineon]

√6 ÷ 2 is the ratio, fascinating, that ratio comes up elsewhere

[@martingrimsted5017]

The cone heads did all the expert work

[@tolotolo2380]

They ask where are the tools?Have you ever seen your contractor leaving his tools at the job site after he’s done with the project?Duh!

[@616CC]

They either had better technology than us, or they were smarter than modern man, I think it’s one or the other.

[@JennieLynnMatheny-ct8ex6gt4v]

Please stop taking the videos so fast when scanning Or panning. You can’t get a good look at the marks or whatever your taking videos of. I absolutely love and appreciate all you do here, I’ll never be able to go to these places. But I sure want to actually see what you’re seeing. Thank you ❤ I love your work and research you’re doing. It’s fantastic sir.

[@bryanlouro140]

How many articles Flint Dibble gonna misquote for this one ???

[@Skyefirecat]

😂 any he can hahahah

[@Apetetrek]

modern day egypt inherited the pyramids,and for some reason want to be known as the descendants of the pyramid builders,when in fact all modrn history egypt accomplished was to use the pyramids and associated temples as quarries to build the ram shackle buildings known as cairo,and luxor.

[@DeDunking]

I plan to leg-wrestle Ben at Cosmic Summit 2025, winner gets to claim perfect provenance on any 3 artifacts they like. I'm half kidding... I will be there next year, looking forward to seeing Ben and other creators in the flesh, and seeing so many passionate independent researchers, people who spend time looking into things that are often laughed at by the academics. Hope to see you there!

[@Rob_Mike_Litterst]

Mr. Ben be like : I'm mos def be wearing those artifact millenial dynastic jeans of mine with my pop's vest & praise ancient gods that that torch over my head does not catch in flames with my awesome poneytail

[@Rob_Mike_Litterst]

also, just need to say I love the guy and watched his own journey unfold from working at HP to being an influencer, for lack of a better word.

[@Shibnibby]

When i was 14 i stood on the unfinished obelisk and looked up at my mum and said why are their machine marks all around it? I dont think they bashed rock balls against this to cut it. Ive worked with alot of archaeologists and they are mostly made up of very quiet, unimpressive people. You will very rarely find an open minded, intelligent archaeologist. They think they are smart because they sat in a building for 4 years then wrote down on a paper what they remembered. I was sat in a room on a site and 40 of them walked in and my project manager turned to me laughing saying omg its like a line of undateables. Just trying to create a picture so you can understand what your arguing with.

[@bryanlouro140]

Flint Dibble is the perfect example

[@cosmicsummit]

Nice comment thanks

[@alexbennett9533]

u wonder. maybe the first two dynasties moved in nothing happened. Then they started digging. they found stuff. Old technology stuff. they retro engineered what they could and deployed what they could decipher. it seems odd. that their technology tree to me seemed uneven. mud huts on one hand advanced tech on the other.

[@Joekonda22]

Great talk and evidenced on this hypothesis. Thank you Ben.

[@digramma_NL]

*Egypt

[@tgeezee3453]

Ben's alwasye interesting im not so sure about some of the conclusion's like the tube drill part speed and spiral groove stuff it jsut seems impossible when just doing the work with a tube seems resnoble and the sprial is more of a random paturn that kind of looks like a spiral when i try to immagin how to modify a tube or half tube so it can produce a spiral and get deep enough fast enough to make a spiral .. im not convinced . 2nd thing was polishing . bens amazed by curved things getting polished .. too me this seem like the grunt work low skill task with no need for supervison perfect job for child labor some kids could serously never screw it up fast enough with a hand full of sand and a bucket of water before the master stone worker would tell them to move on to the next section I hope Ben updates some of his idea's eventualy the polishing is jsut not amazing .... the symetrial statue face' is definatly way more impressive

[@Leeside999]

_"the symetrial statue face' is definatly way more impressive"_ The statues he says are "perfectly symmetrical" are not perfectly symmetrical. That's a bullshit claim from Chris Dunn that he repeats as fact.

[@2am561]

I’m 100% sure there was an advanced civilization back then, but why we haven’t found ancient “plastic” litter?

[@Wolfbabypuppylove]

Maybe an advanced civilization before didn't use plastic.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

The caucasian Egyptians amaze so many that a lot of people try to invoke Aliens or advanced tech to explain it… 😮 no, they were that advanced…

[@NeptunesLagoon]

Simply google image search for: blue eyed Egyptian statues… what do you easily see…?😮 or look up Hemuinu: the architect of the great pyramid of Giza, what do you see…? 😮 or simply look up: reserve heads, it’s the earliest dynasties, what do you clearly see…? 😮

[@finley.h]

@@NeptunesLagoon Blue eyed Egyptian statue looks like a tanned Caucasian. Hemiunu also looks like an Asian people.. 🤔 thx!

[@landyshserebristyy2493]

Damn it, you're going to ruin everything for the "real archaeologists-historians" They eat grants and wash them down with beer at endless conferences and they "know"! And then in the history of mankind there could be things that they prefer not to even think about.

[@Svenchaos]

This was clearly not very hard for the ancients to do, If it was then those 2000+ vases constitue 2000+ lifetimes of work, let alone all the rest! For what? To make Containers for liquid, Stautes of the Pharaoh or Building Temples??? Nah these had a use that needed the hardest of materials and were so essential that master craftsmen spent their lives making them..... Or it was fucking easy to do!

[@Hakor0]

Obsidian is not very hard at all its about 5 to 5.5 on the Mohs scale.

[@ethanniedorowski116]

This is a dudes dude. ❤ If I had the chance to sit an just talk to him for a few hours or until he couldn't handle my not as smart a rocks questioning an wows

[@ethanniedorowski116]

That would be amazing. Him Graham Randle an I omg what I'd do to just soak it in as they talked . It's just amazing what humans have done

[@RandyLe-cb2eb]

yall ever seen the floating stones in water????

[@fallingsky1984]

Id like to believe you but mounts of speculation doesn't equal any kind of believable evidence

[@michaeldavid6832]

Buildings built out of the same material on the same location at the same elevation can only have a disparity in erosion if they weren't built in the same period. The more erosion disparity, the more time passed between the creation of the first then the second. This doesn't take a genius to figure out. If you saw 2 flags on 2 flagpoles, but one of them was dirty and tattered, you'd immediately know that the cleaner flag was newer -- unless someone intentionally misled you with fake weathering -- which on monolithic blocks, would've been more expensive than just building more temples for yourself.

[@degzer73]

As a construction worker every bit of it is believable

[@robsmithson98]

😂😂😂

[@MrSchpeiy]

Who else is paid here to shit on this stuff in the comments? :D

[@casualviewing1096]

Not paid, just doing it for free because you people are a bunch of simple cockwombles 😂

[@GroberWeisenstein]

How does Ben know what can or can't be done in stone ? Hes not an expert craftsman.

[@eamonnholland5343]

Because he's talked with tons of them. They go on tours with him, and he and others have asked them how we could replicate these ancient works, and they've remarked how insanely difficult it is.

[@GroberWeisenstein]

@eamonnholland5343 it's not insanely difficult, and talking isn't doing.

[@eamonnholland5343]

@@GroberWeisenstein I'm one of those experts. I've worked in a rock quarry and stone workshop, for years. The ancient stonework (big and small) is done is such a way as to be nigh unfeasible, even with modern technology. The worst offender (in my opinion) is the polygonal stonework in Egypt and Peru, where every single surface of every single stone is nonlinear. Yes, it is insanely difficult, because I know how much work is involved with just making ONE stone like that. Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

[@GroberWeisenstein]

​@eamonnholland5343 so much for your expertise. Most polygonal stonework is a result of columnar deposits naturally occurring geology. I own 2 granite quarries and have explored and developed close to 70 sites during my quarry years. The other 30+ years processing and manufacturing dimensional stone ie monuments and architectural stone products. There's levels to this, Pal. ​@@eamonnholland5343

[@HarryWolf]

​@@GroberWeisensteinWhat do you mean that "polygonal stonework is a result of columnar deposits naturally occurring geology"? Do you mean like the Giant's Causeway in Northern Ireland?

[@aarondavidson6409]

Cmon guys.... Videos are late....Audio is cooked... Egypt is spelt wrong... Malcolm Bendall had a slot... If you want to reach a wider audience then take things seriously :)

[@cosmicsummit]

Eat me

[@aarondavidson6409]

@@cosmicsummit too doughy for me :)

[@TheArfen1]

Being a precision engineer myself. I was used to working down to a tenth of a thousandth what you call an inch. Yes I am a thread grinder. I have a friend who is a stonemason, Can we work out these things the answer is no !

[@_MikeJon_]

This guy literally withholds information from his fans. Information like experiments and criticism of his claims. Then he parades around parroting how mainstream academics do it. Ben is a snake oil salesmen at best.

[@-K-K-1]

Give one example of him withholding data from his fans?

[@_MikeJon_]

@@-K-K-1do you ever hear him talking about SGD Sacred geometry decoded, Scientists Against Myths or History of Antiquity? No? How about the experiments SGD and SAM did? No? Oh. What about the Ancient Presence channel? He never brought them up? What about Night Scarab? Yeah... you have no idea. Hence my point... in fact he literally tells Podcasters they're not allowed to bring those channels or topics up prior to the podcast interviews. Quite telling, isn't it?

[@-K-K-1]

@@_MikeJon_ he did mention Scientists agains myths in the talk, not sure about the other podcasters, I've never even heard of them and I follow both mainstream anthropology and the alternative in many languages. Not everyone likes criticism but you can choose not to do that and bring those channels up anyway. Even though I don't agree with Ben on every point, he seems to borrow too much from Chris Dunn but I do agree on the main points regarding the lack of tools, saws, tube drills, and those are the most important points which have been deliberately ignored. Maybe it is up to the youtubers to raise the issue up again with new data he is gathering which I guarantee to you is not being done by Egyptologists. I read the peer reviewed research, as I mentioned before.

[@Leeside999]

@@-K-K-1 _"I do agree on the main points regarding the lack of tools, saws, tube drills, and those are the most important points which have been deliberately ignored."_ Deliberately ignored by UnchartedX you mean? Hölscher mentions, without further details, “the end of a bronze drill which had broken off deep in the boring” Arnold, Dieter. Building in Egypt: Pharaonic Stone Masonry. Oxford Univ. Press, 1991. p. 286. At Giza, Petrie noticed green staining on the sides of some Fourth Dynasty saw-cuts in stone, which he ascribed to bronze, but was more likely to have been copper in the Fourth Dynasty. (W.M.F. Petrie, Tools and Weapons, London: British School of Archaeology in Egypt, 1917, p. 174.) Tubular drill marks exist on a block of stone from the Fifth Dynasty complex of Nyuserre, which bears traces of verdigris left from the use of a copper drill-tube. (L. Borchardt, Das Grabdenkmal des Königs Ne-User-Re, Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1907, p. 142) Alfred Lucas examined a hole made by a tubular drill in a fragment of alabaster (CM JE65402), of Third Dynasty date, from the Step Pyramid at Saqqara. In the hole, there was a compact mass of what was almost certainly the abrasive powder of a light green colour. The powder consisted of naturally rounded, very fine grains of quartz sand, and the colour was due to a copper compound, evidently from the drill used. (A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 74) Also at Saqqara, Lucas examined a large drill core about 8 cm in diameter, of coarse-grained red granite with green patches on the outside from the copper of the drill. ((A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 69) G.A. Reisner found fine gritty powder, tinged green, in holes made by a tubular drill in two unfinished Fourth Dynasty stone artifacts. In a hole drilled by a tube into a granite doorpost of Ramesses II (MMA 13.183.2) are minute bronze particles. (G.A. Reisner, Mycerinus, the Temples of the Third Pyramid at Giza, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1931. p. 69) Hölscher mentions, without further details, “the end of a bronze drill which had broken off deep in the boring” Scientific analysis identified the material as a mixture of predominant angular grains of corundum with jagged edges and a few other minerals such as quartz, rutile, feldspar, apatite, ilmenite, augite, biotite, and chromite, usually smaller in size and with high angularity. Very fine particles of calcite surround the bigger particles, which are most likely remains of the indurated limestone that had been drilled. Several particles of corroded bronze and green copper corrosion products are intimately dispersed among the above-mentioned particles, imparting the light green color. The remains at the bottom of the drill hole consist of a mixture of the abrasive, the powdered limestone, and corroded fragments of the bronze drilling tool. (Carò, Federico & Serotta, Anna. (2014). Evidence for the use of corundum abrasive in Egypt from the Great Aten Temple at Amarna. Horizon.)

[@_MikeJon_]

@@-K-K-1 I'd recommend the Ancent Presence three part documentary which featured all of them pretty much. It was specifically about the Serapeum. You'll learn a lot. They started the journey in the lost high technology camp then ended up debunking it for themselves. They cover a good amount of what we're dicussing here. Ben will make claims and when people show they're wrong by doing experiments, he will either ignore it and keep parroting the point or drop it and never show his fans. The guy is extremely dishonest in that regard. Not to mention he makes vary many baseless claims about archeological sites. He absolutely ignores archeological context in many cases to fit his narrative. That or he'll shift the goalposts. I appreciate you pointing out Dunn as well. That guy is where Ben bases so many false claims off of. Dunn has been de-bunked many, many times. The fact anyone takes him seriously then promotes his nonsense is proof enough that they're not a good source. But yeah, Ben never brings that documentary up. Never shows the translucent dish SGD made or the "impossibly flat down to a micron surface" SGD did by hand either.

[@alexanderm8880]

A nagging thought that always comes to mind during Ben's presentations is that perhaps some of the monuments and artifacts he uses as evidence might be fabricated replacements so the originals can't be damaged by tourists and handling. I sure hope I'm wrong! I'd much prefer to look like an idiot than be right in this case lol

[@annewitkowski7586]

Ben has gone into the journals of early excavators to see what they documented. He doesn't only go look at what is there now. Certainly he may miss something, but on the whole he has been careful and aware of the possibility.

[@alexanderm8880]

@@annewitkowski7586 That's good to hear! I first had the thought when he showed off that rock that he said looked like had circular saw marks on it when you pour water on it--they'd have been easy to explain if it was a replica put there to satisfy tourists

[@Leeside999]

@@annewitkowski7586 Too bad he didn't go into the journals of the Toshka excavators. If he did he wouldn't be continuously spreading misinformation about "precision" hard stone vases being found in 14k year old burials there.

[@annewitkowski7586]

@@Leeside999 I don't know how recently he said that. Last time in Egypt they found the room with the exhibit from that excavation, with a bunch of photos.

[@Leeside999]

@@annewitkowski7586 he has said it a number of vids up till recently. He has never corrected himself since he has been called on it.

[@mr2wo]

All you guys do not know enough to know you are wrong. And you spelt Egypt incorrectly.

[@aarondavidson6409]

Egpyt... is indeed a majesticool, astoneishing, one-deruss, mr. eerious place

[@_TheGoob]

I think they understand their lack of understanding much better than the side of "the science". The arrogance of "the science" never fails to impress.

[@bryanlouro140]

You never heard of Egpyt? What about the Sphnix?

[@Whiskey0880]

Nice projection mate.

[@Shibnibby]

What is he wrong about mate? Its astounding how anyone doesnt see Bens points. Anyone ive ever spoken to about it including archaeologists are very thick which isnt their fault.

[@mickmick-qn8kx]

Ben is a grifter or very delusional . The guy believes the Gosford Glyphs are real , he tells a good story but that is all they are stories !

[@cosmicsummit]

He’s neither

[@Momo-xs8mo]

He's done more reseach and doesn't believe its from egyptians anymore. If you watch his most recent video on the gosford glyphs, in his pinned comment, he makes multiple refutations to the validity of them

[@mickmick-qn8kx]

No worries sucker you are a believer too it sounds like

[@mickmick-qn8kx]

@@Momo-xs8mo Ok he seems to have sucked you in..... nothing can be done for believers

[@_MikeJon_]

Yep, and he literally tells Podcasters to not ask him about people debunking his narrative. It's pretty cringe.

[@MelbaOzzie]

The amazing thing is that people pay money to listen to this patent, unmitigated nonsense. There is nothing in this presentation that could not be done by the Egyptians with the tools and materials available to them. Similarly, everything Ben refers to here is duplicated in quantity daily in numerous workshops in China, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc. If Ben would read a few books and speak to some people who do masonry for a living, he would be embarrassed by his ignorance. In fact, since he spends so much time in Egypt, he could buy copies of any of his "ancient civilization" artifacts in any of the tourist shops adjacent to the pyramids.

[@duaneelliott5194]

Even more amazing is the amount of ignorance you have.

[@realistJB]

“Unmitigated nonsense” A bold statement, fine let’s see yourself or others reproduce this work using ancient tools & technology.

[@bryanlouro140]

Doesn't understand what "Masonry" is but goes on unhinged rant...

[@realistJB]

@@bryanlouro140 Also I wasn’t aware that China, Pakistan, Vietnam were now producing multi ton granite obelisks, Statues, sarcophagus etc. Poorly made tourist souvenirs maybe.

[@bryanlouro140]

@@realistJB check the bottom Pyramids were "Made in China"

[@corwinzelazney5312]

Ooh, I've always wanted to go to Egpyt 😋

[@poopcicleog6629]

I can’t help but think these vessels were designed to be hanging from ropes when they were used due to the fact they don’t have flat bases, none have been found with actual handles, and most importantly so many have survived intact. By my logic, if there were some great cataclysm that was able to topple huge stone monuments, objects that were suspended would have the best chance to survive. If these were lamps, or some kind of light source, the precision of their design wouldn’t be necessary. Personally, i think they were designed to resonate sound for some reason. Precision of construction would be of the utmost importance to precise resonance of sound waves. 🤔

[@henryknox4511]

8:24: "This face is perfectly symmetrical" No it's not. For starters the ear on the right is higher up on the head than the left ear, and the nose is off center with the beard AND the center of the headpiece.

[@Whiskey0880]

Because of the angle the picture was taken lol! Get a grip man.

[@henryknox4511]

@@Whiskey0880 Cool story, glad you agree.

[@jesperg]

How about the overlay?

[@Whiskey0880]

Cool story? Any other childish responses? Keep liking your own comments mate, speaks volumes.

[@kristopha]

waiting to see your symmetrical hand tooled granite statue.

[@michelarmand41]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ6zfqZqZZiLoJI Forage d 'une roche avec un tube dePVC

[@corwinzelazney5312]

Because as everyone knows, PVC pipes were common back then. They grew in clumps on the Nile next to the reeds🙄

[@michelarmand41]

@@corwinzelazney5312 Le pvc est plus tendre que le cuivre, donc le forage d'une roche n'a rien à voir avec la dureté du cuivre...(il faut vraiment tout expliquer mdr)