Mr. Big Stings Are Orwellian And Need To Be Banned In Canada -- R. v. Hart

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[@smexijebus]

State-sponsored and tax-funded criminal grooming

[@hhg7832]

Aka The RCMP

[@LithiumJay]

Runkle is the lone advocate telling us Americans "Hey, Canada isn't ALL that great actually." I really appreciate these insights, even if they turn my stomach.

[@metricdeep8856]

We have the same crap....just spread out over a lager area...and fewer police. ...and a virtually unknown percentage of taxes...and no leadership. The country is great as is America....just colder. I always joked that the Can/Am border should have been vertical instead of horizontal. I would prefer some better weather options...lol. Cheers.

[@pukalo]

You should see our "rights". In Canada our "rights" come with a big "unless the government says otherwise" clause, as well as a clause where they can openly violate our "rights" for up to 5 years, subject to renewal.

[@fahqahsowl6498]

@@pukalo the CCRF is actually the Canadian charter of privileges and permissions.

[@fahqahsowl6498]

@@metricdeep8856 the crime rate in Canada is 2.75 times higher than the US crime rate. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself.

[@Satarack]

@@pukalo Not just ONE "unless the government says otherwise," clauses, we have TWO of them. Both Section 1 and the Section 33 of the charter let the government say otherwise, though for Section 1 it has to be "demonstrably justifiable in a free and democratic society" (translation they need the Judges to agree with them), and for Section 33 it only applies to Section 2 (rights to freedom of belief, expression, peaceful assembly, and association) and Sections 7 to 15 (your rights to not be abused by the government). But hey, at least Section 33 doesn't take your language rights away from you (Section 16) so you can request a government torturer to offer their services to you in either official language of French or English.

[@BigDyslexicEnergy]

That’s undeniably psychological abuse. I’m horrified

[@denizyazici5290]

And as such, I smell a massive lawsuit over such tactics when the person is found innocent.

[@brooklynfowler4055]

These things tend not to hold up in court also. It’s a catastrophic abuse of process and needs to be ended.

[@mc-zy7ju]

I am at a complete loss why people don't like the police.

[@maximilian672]

/s

[@DotConnectr]

lol! It's a mystery! 😂

[@Epic-so3ek]

Isnt it shocking!

[@ajohnwiersema]

This and assorted “barn burnings” over the last decades. Refer to rcmp vs the plq

[@guskurt2687]

police are people and are hired by people. for better or for worse...all are and will be with bias...prejudice....or we will be a just a machine.

[@OGPersnickety]

In a case where an officer sleeps with a suspect during a Mr. Big Sting, how is that not considered prostitution, and government-sponsored prostitution at that?

[@crazyrobots6565]

Well it isn't illegal in Canada to offer sex in exchange for money.

[@ealusaid]

@@crazyrobots6565 it is illegal to pay someone to have sex, though. I wonder if the sex has to be with you. If not, the lead investigator is technically being a procurer.

[@crazyrobots6565]

@@ealusaid I'm sure the cop was earning a salary or a set hourly wage. The money was being paid whether they had sex for 2 hours or just watched a hockey game for 2 hours. And if he's anything like me, a hockey game lasts much longer if she really was looking to rack up overtime. Therefore I think it would be difficult to argue that the RCMP was paying her for sex. Edited to make my argument clearer. And to add a joke.

[@OGPersnickety]

@@crazyrobots6565 At least you’re honest… and coming from a woman, we wouldn’t want it to last as long as a match either.

[@JimboXX78]

​@@crazyrobots6565RCMP? I think there might be a joke there somewhere...

[@johnc4814]

Why are nurses, social workers, doctors and other front line workers held to ethics codes but not police.

[@JohnDoe-gg6kc]

Funny how cops make such great criminals

[@GMAN420BC]

It comes naturally

[@fahqahsowl6498]

It's what happens when you give people authority

[@alangrant5684]

You better not call them ever.

[@fahqahsowl6498]

@@alangrant5684 You better believe I won't. I don't need them to solve my problems. You probably do, though.

[@GMAN420BC]

@@alangrant5684 why would anyone call police ?

[@sbarmiueenl]

"Romantic partners" taking "F*** the Police!" to a new level.

[@peterb22084]

as I recall, Rozco the Mayerthorpe Killer of RCMP, had two particular friends that fell into this similar Mr.Big trap, and one female undercover gave continuous flirtatious promises of love and touch to one of these guys, the other one found new beneficial 'friends'...things did not legally go well for these two. This item was covered in a one hour journalistic expose.

[@thomasgordon6048]

ref. COUTTS 4 trial: female RCMP undercover officers were used

[@hannahs765]

so messed up we pay taxes for the state to fuck with us

[@oz_jones]

Literally.

[@bobSeigar]

McGill did what with the [REDACTED]

[@lhwesterlund]

It seems so... Wasteful. Such a waste of police resources, and also so pointless! (Also kinda abusive - separating him from his wife? Manipulation and gaslighting? Nuh-uh!)

[@lseh]

Homewreckers 😢

[@lhwesterlund]

@@lseh That or just sadists. It shows an alarming lack of compassion, overall!

[@lisaburris9045]

More than kinda... its abusive full stop in this case.

[@lhwesterlund]

@@lisaburris9045 Yes, I was only about five minutes into the video when I rated it as "kinda". I've since upgraded my opinion to "hella" abusive... *Shudders*

[@MuffHam]

Its because Canada dose not have a justice system. Canada has a legal system. Meaning rulings, laws, police actions can be unjustified yet still legal.

[@RAY-uh3np]

Runkle should cover the killing on October 14, 2007, of Robert Dziekanski, a 40-year old Polish immigrant to Canada, during an arrest at the Vancouver International Airport in Richmond, British Columbia. You will be mortified to see how 4 RCMP lied and colluded. Robert was coming to visit his mother in Vancouver and was disoriented as he spoke no English and needed help. Instead of help, he got tasered by RCMP and subsequently died. One of the most disturbing things about RCMP,

[@redchief94]

I remember that. Sparked a whole lot of debate surrounding the use of "less lethal force". Might have been that it was called non-lethal before that. Its been a while, I don't recall clearly.

[@prowl06]

What did they lie about exactly?

[@RAY-uh3np]

@@prowl06 On February 20, 2015, Constable Kwesi Millington, the RCMP officer who fired the Taser on the night Robert Dziekański died eight years previously, was found guilty of perjury and colluding with his fellow officers before testifying at the inquiry into Dziekański's death, and on June 22, 2015, was sentenced to 30 months in prison. There are several instances where the RCMP lied, colluded and misrepresented facts.

[@prowl06]

@@RAY-uh3np ya but what did he lie about exactly? There were four officers tried for the same perjury offences. The two minorities were convicted. The two whites acquitted. No one ever knows the details.

[@nickpetkoglou1990]

I remember this incident. I was not pleased @ the way they handled the situation when it was Crystal Clear that there was a language barrier. I wish I could express my comment the way I would like, but Black Face may send the Thought Police after me. Our country needs a purge from the top down in my opinion. R.I.P. Robert D

[@JohnDoe1999-lg7mh]

Not police, but thugs.

[@airborne63]

Sounds like what the RCMP did at Coutts....and what is just coming out at the trial.

[@joehronek8522]

Indeed !

[@drvelocci]

The romantic partner part is insane to me 🤯

[@Frowdo]

Imagine a child born from this.

[@eddietat95]

@@Frowdo or AIDS

[@oldredcoonhound2182]

@@drvelocci just watched a series called Tin Star. It kind of went along those lines but it was a British cop that moved to Canada and worked as a cop.

[@ealusaid]

There was an Irish woman in London who thought that her partner had just totally disappeared off the face of the earth when their son was little, and then like 20 years later learned he was an undercover cop who was already married

[@AndImsomelady-fq6cw]

@@ealusaidthat story is bananas.

[@JCtheMusicMan_]

Sounds like coercion or entrapment 🤔🤦‍♂️

[@PhoenixRising-pc2fv]

That doesn't seem psychopathic. It **IS** psychopathic.

[@GiraffeGal1]

Wow…just thought about his poor wife. First the nightmare of losing her daughters. Now her nightmare continues…

[@boobah5643]

Not only is it costing her her husband, but if she believes the cops, her husband murdered their children. So a spot of betrayal on top of everything else.

[@aromirasher]

While US police are not allowed to conduct "Mr Big Stings", they are bizarrely enough considered admissible in court. For reference see the Rafay-Burns Case where Canadian police carried out a "Mr Big Sting" on behalf of Bellevue (Washington) Police and the confession obtained in this manner was later played during the US Trial.

[@crabwalk7773]

Although outlawed in the U.S., I can hardly believe that some 'watered down' versions of this still do not occur here.

[@ealusaid]

@@crabwalk7773 If phone cameras have taught us anything, it's that "the cops aren't supposed to do this thing" and "the cops DON'T do this thing" are veeery different sometimes.

[@DylanYoung]

Wasn't the Whitmer kidnapping case quite similar?

[@terminsane]

Whitmer... Timothey McVeigh also was pushed on by "undercover informants"

[@edwardwright8127]

Don’t worry. Even if it’s illegal, they have qualified immunity.

[@finished6267]

they do. "bumping" or "pushing"

[@KageMinowara]

"If I were in charge I would forbid the police from doing this." Then run for office. I'd vote for you.

[@FuckingChrisKupina]

Runk 4 office ^^^^ lol

[@Sugarplum33]

Runkle for prime Minister!

[@JamieF143]

This makes me so sad all together. They are messing with people’s mental health. In the UK it appears that some of these deep undercover have produced children. Should not be a tactic that any country uses.

[@vickislominski7618]

Holy cow. Literally Orwellian. 😳

[@Couldbeworse_]

Wow the amount of manipulation the RCMP use to do these stings is beyond questionable. The officers that plan and carry these out are just as troubling as the criminals

[@TheQuickSilver101]

This is absolutely repellent. I'm now ashamed to be Canadian ☹

[@tdwebste]

We live in a disgusting country.

[@dano6845]

This is what did it for you?

[@meddlehedd1194]

after lockdowns, quarantines, solitary confinements, poison covid vaxxes, government interference in the Doctor patient relationship, Arrive Scam, illegal martial law, bribing the media into a propaganda machine, lying about hospitalization and death data..... and only NOW you're ashamed to be canadian. LMAO

[@troywallace7011]

Canada elected trudope 3 times and this is what you're ashamed about? lol

[@A.C._Taylor]

In the early 90’s, I got caught up in one of these Mr. Big sting operations. I was only an acquaintance with a couple members of a ‘club’. I worked as security for nightclubs throughout the city I was at, so knowing people like that was inevitable . I also had a retail day job and that is where a police operative made contact with me. He posed as a customer and I sold him a bunch of things and he asked me if I knew anyone that could help set everything up in his new home. I said that I could help out as I could use the extra money. When I got to his place, he and his ‘wife’ were sitting at their couch, having a few drinks. I was offered some to which I accepted. Afterwards, they offered me a pick-me-up in the way of a huge pile of coke on a mirror. This was the start of a whole bunch of illegal things that this guy did in front of me. I even watched him beat a guy almost to death in a parking lot with a towing chain. TWO YEARS LATER, a fluke situation happened and I found out who he really was and what he was trying to do. It was at that moment I also realized that the police can outright break all laws to apprehend anyone they want.

[@ThatRedhedd]

I've listened to podcasts about the Mr. Big sting. The saddest part is how they befriend the (sometimes innocent) suspect for months, and leave the person feeling terribly foolish & betrayed.

[@ginagruber1732]

At first this sounded like normal undercover work but quickly crossed the line into entrapment.

[@WitchyJessy]

Wow I just can't! This is horrible and I am glad that the states don't do this anymore can you imagine how many people ended up in prison due to this kinds of sting?

[@rharding13]

Now THIS is what I subscribe for! 30 minutes of interesting, informative material on Canadian criminal law.

[@Conicee]

This is horrible! This feels sickening. Even if you think that the person committed a crime this is horrendous. How could you change a person's life like this! Like you destroyed him. Wtf

[@Voyagersk9]

This is crazy!! I can’t believe this is legal!! In any country!! 😮

[@special_kitty7195]

That's so messed up. I don't know how those people can stand to do that to people.

[@Nate-o3z]

That's what I'm sayin bud, it's sociopathic,

[@drscience-l3m]

Re reading 1984. Such a good book

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

The prescient "versificator", too.

[@The_JEB]

These Mr Big Stings sound very "show me the person and i will find the crime"

[@dsn385]

Good evening. I’m not sure how these police can look in a mirror and see themselves as good officers and doing their jobs by the law.

[@ericdugdale8585]

It's pretty easy: they're not hurting "real" people, they're only hurting the public.

[@deadwood2757]

As the son of one of these guys... they can't stop staring in the mirror. Nothing is off the table in the Canadian justice system as long as it leads to the conviction of a GUILTY person. The problem is the cover up culture of the RCMP for when they make mistakes....own up to the mistakes Ian Bush

[@luciroseman1863]

This is insane. This being allowed makes me sick.

[@katyafan]

Holy crap, that is messed up!!

[@katyafan]

Damn, this just gets worse the longer I watch. Unconscionable.

[@MaryDunford]

​@@katyafan Agreed. It's like they just picked a random, vulnerable, dude and set him up only to tear him back down. This is.. sinister.

[@katyafan]

@@MaryDunford That is the perfect word, sinister.

[@Lilacs_and_Chocolate]

Thanks for this - I had no idea this was legal in Canada.

[@richarddoherty2875]

The most famous of all was the MR big sting on Dennis Cheesman over the Mayerthorpe police killings. This is where the conversation about being a girlfriend and having sexual relations with the suspect come from. The police used a french canadian female officer to convince the 23 year old Cheeseman he was in a relationship and involved with a Quebec criminal group. She absolutely had a sexual relationship with him and the RCMP had an officer posing as her Ex boyfriend. Also they tried to do a sting on the other suspect Shawn Hennesey but it was amateurish and he refused to go along with it.

[@tobefayahhh]

Mr Runkle got me bail on a firearm case in Edmonton Canada Eccentric dude Had like 1000 pop cans collected in his office and wore a fedora. Did a good job

[@thecommunistdoggo1008]

Yikes yeah that case was just awful

[@andrewhallock2548]

As others have said, when the police talk about how communities don't trust them anymore I'm shocked. Shocked that anyone might think the police take underhanded, manipulative actions to get their arrest numbers up.

[@FeelFreeToThink]

Bet the other 3 letter agencies have no limits, even in the USA

[@peggyriordan9857]

I agree with you on this one. It's terrible that this can be used against anyone.

[@caspersroom]

And so, the poor man had to "confess" in order to be accepted into the organisation. Tragic. And, sickening.😥What happened to Mr. Hart in the end? 🤔

[@yodasecondave]

These could lead to the targets killing themselves

[@Fitiaosana]

I was just thinking that. 😢😢

[@rickmossop3733]

Sounds like the Whitmer "kidnapping" case.

[@Sir_Real_One]

Canadian tax dollars are hard at work! I agree that it's a sick method!

[@chintz7428]

As an introvert, this is a nightmare

[@sassafrass241]

I remember when they used this against Cheeseman regarding the case where the man killed the Mounties in Mayerthorpe. Guy spent time in prison because the RC’s had a hard on and couldn’t get the guy that killed the Mounties, so they went after anyone they could. Framed that poor man.

[@planesandbikes7353]

Excellent analysis. SCC has to bring the MrBig Sting technique to an end, ban all such confessions and evidence.

[@JerryEricsson]

Watching your videos sure changes my opinion on life in Canada. I used to live up in North Dakota, worked on a few Police Departments over 24 years up there, then after an accident on duty, I ended up on the disabled list and moved back South to South Dakota where I was born and raised. When living up North, I ran into a lot of folks from Canada, especially in the clinic as many came South to see our Doctors as they could get in much quicker down here and were willing to pay for that service. Also a lot of fellows came South to help out with our Steam Thrashers reunion that we held ever year in one of the Cities where I served, got to know some of those fellows very well over a few beers at the local watering hole. I never knew your law enforcement was so different then ours down here but now I see they surly are. Sad really.

[@camerondebaets5013]

These kinds of stings seem unconscionable, unreliable and should be banned for any number of reasons.

[@user-zg1gs9ez8g]

Absolutely amazing true story. Is there not a civil claim that can be introduced against the police for this kind of bs?

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Despicable.

[@AkiSan0]

so. he didnt do the crime until the police "enticed" him to? nice.

[@AkiSan0]

f me. just thinking about what might have happened is crass. you see your daughter drowning, you panic, this causes you to get a seizure, making you watch you own child die in front of you, without the ability to save it. man.

[@MissingmyBabbu]

@@AkiSan0 The fact that while he was seizing, his daughter (daughters? plural?) drowned, and not only does he have to LIVE with that guilt, but it seems like his community ostracized him (instead of doing the right thing and rallying around him and his wife) and the police organized a massively over-expensive entrapment plan to get him to "admit" to.. what, seizing on PURPOSE while his kids drowned? What the f is wrong with these cops, man? They took advantage of a vulnerable, impoverished, grieving father and for what? To get to their arrest quota? F me, that's just sick.

[@Erideah]

It's not like someone makes it out of one of these situations emotionally well, even if we're not talking divorce, lost friendships and the like. Ought to be a lawsuit worth considerably more than the entire sting

[@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408]

What a waste of money and resources.

[@Mere_Puffery]

The first two episodes of season one of ‘The Confession Tapes’ on Netflix are about a Mr Big sting that features actual police recordings and video from an operation. The two targets of the sting, Atif Rafay and Sebastian Burns are still in prison for murdering Rafay’s family based on nothing except a bullshit ‘Mr Big’ ‘confession’ - while there was actual evidence pointing in a VERY different direction. I remember watching it at the time and feeling such absolute outrage and despair at seeing police do this to what were essentially children that I literally had to turn it off and take a few hours break from watching before my fucking head exploded. The other episodes of the docuseries are equally upsetting and crazy-making. But highly recommended, lol.

[@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII]

Imagine... It's like waking up on morning on the Truman show and then the next in a jail cell. Inexcusable. If they did it to him, they can do it to you, or your children.

[@offroadmodeofficial5401]

Let’s not act like this kind of thing doesn’t happen in the US. It’s just not “official work” and called a Mr. big Sting.

[@alicyamatheson7877]

What is this Canada I live in.. I can't even

[@XcmxMccqx]

I've been saying this for years .. they are allowed to do anything

[@jordanw8382]

I worked on Mr. Big stings over many years. I commented but my comment was deleted. How interesting is that.

[@dennyhleucka7786]

So basically “entrapment” is legal in Canada

[@AileTheAlien]

😬My first thoughts when finding this video...

[@anngenaske4648]

That is terrifying

[@bodgitscarper5353]

Question: what would you expect from consecutive corrupt Governments. But corrupt laws, just look at the language laws brought in by the Liberals, special laws for special groups, and yet the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, everyone is equal under the law, if indeed everyone is equal under the law, there would be no need for special laws. How ever, when the very people who are supposed to up hold these laws, politicise these laws, then nolonger is anyone equal under these laws unless you belong to which political party (Liberals) is in power.

[@jackielinde7568]

When I hear stories like this, it reminds me of this quote from The Usual Suspects. It's kind of telling that instead of letting the evidence guide them, they'll latch onto someone like a rabid dog and do everything they can to bring that person down. Quote: "To a cop, the explanation is never that complicated. It’s always simple. There’s no mystery to the street, no arch-criminal behind it all. If you got a dead body and you think his brother did it, you’re gonna find out you’re right.” The funny thing is, in that scene, Verbal Kent knew Agent Kujan was hell bent on chasing this bad cop from New York that all he had to do was spin this story about how they got from NYC to Cali and the boat blew up, and Agent Kujan would never smell that he was Kaiser Sose. And it worked.

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

That was set in Canton, yeh? 😉

[@atticusmatlock4305]

The one that's always stuck out in my mind is the guy who was accused of killing his parents with his friend. They convinced him he was having a meeting with a mob/gang boss (Mr Big) who was actually an undercover cop. He was pressured to admit to a crime in order to gain favor with the organized crime group. If I'm not mistaken he was convicted but I'm not sure if anything happened on appeal.

[@sperg]

sorry if i posted the same comment 3 times, it seems youtube keeps filtering them out :(

[@jannettb7930]

Can you imagine if our societies were actually interested in creating good paying jobs that lifted people out of poverty and gave them access to social connections and ties to their communities?

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

Nope. I have no faith in the people who are interested in being in government.

[@mcamir1]

Great episode Runkle. Love this stuff. More of this and less celebrity crap!

[@Past10Performance]

New life goal, falsly convince the police i have commited a henious crime, have they do a mister big operation where they attempt to string me along while paying me thousands of dollars and a hot woman to sleep with. When the time comes deny all allegation, reveal the fact that it was all a ruse and dissapear into the night...😂😂😂😂😅😅😅

[@valerieurquhart3133]

Near the end when police perks were discussed, it brought to mind a certain Federal political party with similar perks that the RCMP appear to be protecting. Or not!

[@ericatucker2683]

I had never heard of anything like this before that. Absolutely wild. Canada get your s*** together.

[@Garkin58]

If canada wasnt still part of tbe monarchy, we would be states in the USA. The reason this stuff is allowed to happen is because we dont have a constitution that restricts the government at all.

[@s3xedmanthunder192]

Section 1 of the Charter says that Charter rights can be limited by law so long as those limits can be shown to be reasonable in a free and democratic society. so yeah they can say they are in the clear. ^^ take it as you want.

[@GMC-Junkie]

WTF sounds like the police had him running drugs & were paying him for it... WTF!

[@Hank.Will.I.Ams.]

This is horrifying and such a waste of money. Truly Orwellian. This will only hurt innocent people

[@kenn1936]

I have seen these Mr Big Stings so many times, I am surprised they are still on the go. Doesn't most people know these stings? Is it even possible that anyone could fall for this after its been on documentaries and reality programmes for years?

[@kerfluffle3781]

Yes, because living your life like at any moment the police may put on an elaborate larp to brainwash you would be unsustainable. And most people who are vulnerable to this aren't watching documentaries or, frankly, thinking rationally (not that any of this fits into rational thinking) because they're focused on trying to survive.

[@peterb22084]

remembering that down&out near-homeless couple from Victoria a number of years ago...they didn't didn't have the I.Q. to solve a jigsaw puzzle but were railroaded by a Mr.Biggy style sting to confess to a complex terrorist plot to bomb a bridge, set up a Boston marathon-style explosions and possibly steal a nuclear submarine from Nanoose DND site. Coached by the police team the whole ways. Unbelievable but true, the Judge had scathing words for the crown/RCMP, but to this day those words are forgotten and the sin continues on elsewhere.

[@ajohnwiersema]

It seems that the yellow stripe gang is a one trick pony…. Way too many Mr Big stings done in the last few decades.

[@eldgeth3799]

I have distaste for this tactic. I wish they would abandon it.

[@prairie745]

Michael Bridges was caught by using a Mr. Big sting in the case of Erin Chorney

[@anthonypecorara]

The US starts turning into the Handmaid’s Tale, Canada, hold my poutine eh.

[@oz_jones]

How is US turning into a caliphate?

[@wmdkitty]

That's really messed up, man. Like, broke the bogosity meter messed up.

[@Sugarplum33]

Im from Newfoundland so i found this super interesting. I listened a podcast about the crime and it talked about the sting but I was too focused on how he probably killed his kids to realize how cruel this was.

[@joebachmeier6747]

Great job Mr. Runkle

[@BrillPappin]

This reminds me of a case i heaed about from my father. He was working for an underground newspaper when he was young (late 60s probably, in BC), and the cops mailed the paper a pot plant (roots still on it). When je went to pick up the mail, the arrested him. He said that changes law in Canada. Ive never seen the case, but it woild be interesting to find it.

[@thomasthezaugg]

Grant Bristow. Created a 90s hard right group called Heritage front, was a Canadian Security and Intelligence Officer.

[@bf19881988]

Runkle, please run for office. Of any kind. You have my vote.

[@martinbrousseau2560]

I can’t wait to become a lawyer…

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

❤❤❤

[@lseh]

Love when you discuss Canadian cases!! Any interesting cases right now? Hard to know now a days since we can't share news online and trials aren't streamed.

[@Arphalia]

This is absolutely repugnant, holy cow. I'm blown away that this is allowed to be practiced by LEO's, are Canadians just unaware in general that this is something the Police do in Canada?

[@jamesblair9614]

I don’t know what the success rate for Mr. Big operations is, but I would hope that if they at attempt one and don’t get what they were looking for, that fact should be disclosed to the defence.

[@rocknroll888]

This is crazy making. 😮

[@Somero5115]

Agreed

[@denizyazici5290]

This is considered “entrapment” based on manipulating the financial and social circumstances of the man to entice a false confession. I can see a major lawsuit over this for mental anguish and reputational damage, and it could be in the millions.

[@halfirish8056]

Ahhh. I watch Crime Beat and see Mr Big is used often in the cases they cover.

[@hectatusbreakfastus6106]

Mr. Big needs a Mr. Jailcell in Mr. Genpop

[@oz_jones]

Or a Mr Loop and Mr Tree

[@terrymcdonell2948]

You need to look at the same type of scenario with regards to youth protection/child protective services in Canada. You really, really need to look at this. You mention about tearing someone's world apart, the children in such "investigations" are very messed up and then absorbed into the health care industry - the same industry of CPS/YP. People have no idea how much Authority the healthcare system (educators, social workers, ) have over the "Parental Responsibility" of a parent. The Rule of Law - you would be better placed to explain that concept - does not exist in Youth Court. I hope you take up this suggestion. You have done an excellent job on this video explanation. The topic I am giving you needs the same treatment and it will affect many Canadians (think The Trucker protestors,).