How to Install Water Methanol Injection and Tune Your Engine For It

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@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
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@benejeneb
@benejeneb 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! A small correction - at 9:09 you said 'detrimental' but it seems you meant to say 'essential'. Especially as a non native English speaker, your explanations are incredibly clear and your style and editing is exceptional 👍
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 7 ай бұрын
Can I use Tonic Water ? Ha
@johnchristopher3032
@johnchristopher3032 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, buddy. This stuff works. I put a meth kit on a couple of Nissan s back in the day. Everyone thought i was crazy, but if you know, you know.
@bastadimasta
@bastadimasta 7 ай бұрын
Meth kit? You made your car a junkie
@okok-oc4ko
@okok-oc4ko 7 ай бұрын
Hope it was an altima
@johnchristopher3032
@johnchristopher3032 7 ай бұрын
@@okok-oc4ko Sentra and a 240
@importsstillsuck
@importsstillsuck 7 ай бұрын
​@@bastadimasta *tweaker
@harrypalmer291
@harrypalmer291 6 ай бұрын
You understand combustion technology and a lot of "car guys" don't. "You'll blow up your motor putting that on it!" Just keep doing what you know is going to improve performance because so few people really know how it works and how to use that knowledge to get real power gains. 👌💯
@johnathankrausrig9237
@johnathankrausrig9237 7 ай бұрын
Nothings better than Sunday lunch with a new video from you
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 7 ай бұрын
5:40 AM here.
@johnathankrausrig9237
@johnathankrausrig9237 7 ай бұрын
@@bradyelich2745 good for you, i guess
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
@bradyelich2745 Carpe diem
@FixingWithFriends
@FixingWithFriends 7 ай бұрын
KZbin keeps unsubscribing me, it's annoying.
@justRD1
@justRD1 7 ай бұрын
for those worried about water corrosion, just remember one of the main byproducts of combustion IS water so engines are completely used to processing it.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 7 ай бұрын
I don't know where people get the idea it'll rust the engine. Like he mentioned in the video, the water/meth solution actually "steam cleans" the engine internals.
@erlannalan
@erlannalan 4 ай бұрын
yeah, if they are worried with water corrosion they should buy or make their own distilled water. it's not that hard honestly. The steam deep clean and high temperature of the internal engine will also make sure to make the corrosion build up hard to develop.
@RaptorFPV
@RaptorFPV 2 ай бұрын
Heat the mirror in your bathroom with a hair dryer and breath on it, look what happens. Heat a pan over 100°C and put a water droplet in it, look what happens. I wouldn´t worry about water corrosion in a heated engine, in a cold engine it´s a different thing. So, if you´re paranoid, warm up your engine, then turn on the injection system. ~15min. before turning off the engine turn off the injection system so the combustion chamber dries out, then have a restful sleep.
@steveyoutube1709
@steveyoutube1709 7 ай бұрын
It’s very important to run a fail safe because it detects if water isn’t flowing ( clogged injector, empty tank etc), and prevent additional boost/timing
@xani666
@xani666 7 ай бұрын
I'd imagine ECU would instantly detect knocking and tune it down no ?
@steveyoutube1709
@steveyoutube1709 7 ай бұрын
@@xani666 aftermarket maybe, factory dodge will retard a little timing… boost depends on how that’s controlled
@lightmetalinc.6488
@lightmetalinc.6488 2 ай бұрын
It won't affect your tune as much as you think and when it comes to ignition timing, if you were already in a safe place, it's only going to be safer from the charge cooling. Unless you're adding timing for power gains because you were knock limited before, but you need a dyno to prove any gains. Also cooler air is more dense and will run a fixed tune leaner and vice versa hot air will enrich it, this is why IAT (intake air temp) sensors are integral to ECU compensations, likely already programmed.
@jake_3946
@jake_3946 2 ай бұрын
this is how i blew my n54 twice, never doing methanol again
@lightmetalinc.6488
@lightmetalinc.6488 2 ай бұрын
@@jake_3946 The key is to tune it on normal fuel 98RON (AUS) or 93 Octane (US) then add the methanol as a safety net, that way you're not on the ragged edge of your tune relying on the methanol to keep you knock resistant. In effect if the methanol system stops working you still have a safe tune on normal fuel.
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 7 ай бұрын
Water/Meth is hard on wideband 02 sensors. That being said it works great, dropped my temps by almost 100F.
@4BillC
@4BillC 7 ай бұрын
That fitting in the silicone coupler will pop out eventually! I installed mine the same way, except my nozzle holder was plastic not metal, and it took about a year of daily driving but eventually I had to figure out how to get to stop popping out. You can find throttle body spacers that have a provision for a methanol nozzle BTW. I also run about 2 bar of boost and target .85. I've had mine for probably about 3 years now and my engine hasn't rusted. Lol
@renz1013
@renz1013 7 ай бұрын
I'm downloading this when I eventually get to build my dream car in the future.
@DanielFrost79
@DanielFrost79 7 ай бұрын
I wish i had those kind of roads where i live. Looks so calm and free roaming around on those roads. And fun ofcourse.
@aden3113
@aden3113 7 ай бұрын
Looks fun but also dangerous to be driving too enthusiastically as the road are small and it's hard to see oncoming cars. Would be nice to cruise around though.
@Stale_Mahoney
@Stale_Mahoney 7 ай бұрын
@@aden3113 believe it or not but more hilly countries often have such roads as main roads, and as long as you stay in your file you are good. no problem cruising 70~80km/h comfortably, and still have less crashes statistically speaking to for example america with lots of open straight roads where drivers may get bored and dont pay attention as much resulting in more carnage
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 6 ай бұрын
@@Stale_Mahoney you can visit the area around the Nürburgring in Germany, there is a particularly nice stretch of countryside one-way-no-Speed-Limit-toll-road, and you can cruise a tad quicker there too.
@glenn9k
@glenn9k 7 ай бұрын
And also, as many others have said before: your roads and scenery does look fantastic. Would love to bring a driver's car down there all the way from Sweden some day.
@mickellis8747
@mickellis8747 7 ай бұрын
I've been using water/denatured alcohol injection on my turbo 1hz diesel for years and it works. More power and lower egt's
@KarzKreated
@KarzKreated 7 ай бұрын
Something to keep in mind as I just learned myself while installing a custom multi port W/M system is a flow control solenoid may be required if you have more than one nozzle. My system utilizes 1 nozzle per intake port on a 2.3L Ecoboost, so 4 nozzles total. Even with a check valve, the engine vacuum at idle pulled the fluid through the pump, through 18ft of line, through a filter and check valve into cylinders 3 & 4. So, if you plan to run a similar system, I suggest incorporating a solenoid. I would say it's required for multi port setups. 🙂
@vagcentral2252
@vagcentral2252 7 ай бұрын
I installed water methanol on my car a couple years back. I used the snow performance 2.5 and integrated the 52mm gauge in the car. Highly recommend that kit. Just more wiring but guage doubles as psi read out. Brought my temps down from roughly 35c to 0-3c on logs and kept my valves clean. If you're running 51/49 menthol you honestly don't need to upgrade your intercooler. If you do this on your daily driver please save your self the hassle and just upgrade to the biggest tank that you can fit. The tank in this video will last 10 min of wot pulls. If you don't wanna deal with methanol go for port injection you can add more power and keep the valves clean. Best part only add gas.
@jhonkhan8153
@jhonkhan8153 7 ай бұрын
The area reminds us of Dual 1971 beautiful scenery ,thanks for your educational program 😀
@DEATHWISHVQ
@DEATHWISHVQ 2 ай бұрын
Just know I have a notebook dedicated to only automotive video notes I take and your videos are insanely easy to understand I really appreciate your information it makes it so easy to learn.
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Ай бұрын
Installed a snow performance stage 1 kit. Only downside is it only comes with 2 nozzles a size 6 and a 9. Wanting to get a size 4. Its also worth noting if you have a standalone ecu such as a haltech ecu you do not need the controller. Your ecu should come with a water injection page and you can set your ecu to control your water injection. With settings under water injection(advanced) you can set it to turn on with map,tps, rpm limitation triggers and you can set it to turn on while using launch control.
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Ай бұрын
And the halt ech ecus also has 2 seperate look up tables to compansate for afr/lambda and ignition timing with out tweaking your base fuel and ignition tables. So your tune only works while its spraying..like it has 2 maps all the time.
@dissapointingsoup4893
@dissapointingsoup4893 Ай бұрын
is this available on the Haltech platinum series of ecus? or is it only on the elites, im going to pick up my first standalone secondhand tomorrow and it would be great to know haha
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Ай бұрын
@@dissapointingsoup4893 so far i only know that its on the elites because thats what i'm using as well. The platinums are pretty obsolete at this point anyways. i would think anything elite,nexus,Rebels should be able to do it. Platinums i dunno tbh
@MrBerto909
@MrBerto909 7 ай бұрын
My Sunday lecture has arrived!😇🤗😱🙏🏽perfect timing(no pun intended)😂
@maxcactus7
@maxcactus7 7 ай бұрын
This was excellent, D4A! Could you give us some compare/contrast information on water ethanol injection in NA engines vs. forced induction? Advantages, disadvantages, risks, etc?
@jacobormsby9241
@jacobormsby9241 7 ай бұрын
just one minor correction: you definitely COULD see some additional power by simply having the system installed on the car. The system will cool the air, cooler air = denser air. Denser air = more power, as long as you have an ecu that will auto-correct even a small amount of AFR. You most certainly wont get the most out of it this way though.
@ajidamarjati
@ajidamarjati Ай бұрын
So in theory i can install them on my GE8 Jazz? 😂
@mmx512
@mmx512 7 ай бұрын
Hi! Great video, thanks! Small correction though regarding AFRs. You have mentioned that because methanol has a lower stoichiometric ratio you should lower your target AFR in ECU. I believe that's not how it works because O2 sensor doesn't actually measure the mass of fuel, it measures only oxygen (that's why it's call an oxygen sensor) and outputs lambda of which the stoichiometric ratio is 1 regardless the type of fuel. It is then displayed as AFR for gasoline in ECU for convenience/familiarity. So even if you go, for example, full methanol instead of gas, your gasoline AFR that O2 sensor displays stoichiometric value would still be 14.7:1, to see real methanol AFR in that case you'd just need to setup your gauge to display methanol AFR, but the lambda and the mass of methanol would be the same.
@merkel2750
@merkel2750 7 ай бұрын
Careful bud, he doesn’t like being corrected, he’s gotten pissy before about something and when I tried to link him to a fortnine video with onscreen proof and full explanations, he got angry and basically demanded I explain to him in my own words why he was wrong😂
@MouloudeSUU
@MouloudeSUU 7 ай бұрын
YES !
@mmx512
@mmx512 7 ай бұрын
@@merkel2750 😅 well I did my best being polite and supportive because I like his content, so hopefully it goes well
@asian4747
@asian4747 7 ай бұрын
That's not what he said - he mentioned that Methanol as a fuel likes to run a bit richer lambda compared to gasoline, which is why you would target a richer AFR.
@mmx512
@mmx512 7 ай бұрын
@@asian4747 Well, I've interpreted his statements differently. My comment is for those who did as well. Maybe I've understood him wrong, but l believe what I wrote aside from mentioning what was in the video is still correct and adds value.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 7 ай бұрын
I wish I thought of doing this with my old supercharged Civic EF hatch. I had a Jackson screw type supercharger on a little B16 and it was a HOOT, but after only a couple pulls, or when AIT has warm to hot, it really suffered. There was no good way to add an intercooler, but water injection would have been an amazing solulution. I miss that car.
@stevebarnes9694
@stevebarnes9694 5 ай бұрын
Easy to understand well explained outstanding
@Dr.DerBiss
@Dr.DerBiss 7 ай бұрын
I was so excited about this video, thank you so much!
@josephgauthier5018
@josephgauthier5018 7 ай бұрын
would love to see a video on using only water, to simply improve fuel economy by running leaner
@ThorstenKreutzenberger
@ThorstenKreutzenberger 7 ай бұрын
it is not intended for economy use. It is intended to lower temperatures due to excessive boost when otherwise heat knocking would occur.
@josephgauthier5018
@josephgauthier5018 7 ай бұрын
@@ThorstenKreutzenberger I know that's what it's meant for, but if it allows you to run leaner, then there could be an opportunity to save on gas too
@ThorstenKreutzenberger
@ThorstenKreutzenberger 7 ай бұрын
@@josephgauthier5018 If u want to go "lean" search for "ringverfahren" from Penzig. It uses two types of fuel, one (pilot) fuel which ignites when compressed and normal gasoline injected into the flaming pilot fuel. With this you can go as lean as you want with gasoline. Also Diesel is probably what you are looking for as it goes also lean.
@medmajoud9450
@medmajoud9450 7 ай бұрын
Thanks dude for making all that sh!t simple and understandable. Hats off BUDDY! PLS, Keep up the good work.
@superjesus4307
@superjesus4307 7 ай бұрын
Works great on diesels, just be aware of the flow and mixture limits to prevent detonation.
@marin982
@marin982 7 ай бұрын
Stari kanal ti je top topova! Pozdrav iz Rijeke
@johnathansmith3819
@johnathansmith3819 6 ай бұрын
Before anything: thanks for such a comprehensive and well documented information, together with the uncommon ability to deliver a good and understandable imagery. My concern, is the engine's age, a 2002 Subaru Forrester. It has 264.5000 miles on it, although well maintained. I fear its loss of power through rings will end up overcoming its gaskets. I perceive its blow-back through the oil cap on its oil intake tube. It certainly comes from somewhere. Will I end up blowing a gasket installing something like this, which I like very much? Thanks again d4a. 👀
@pugnate666
@pugnate666 7 ай бұрын
Great follow up! Thanks!
@mojpismonosa
@mojpismonosa 7 ай бұрын
Dude you from BiH? I could never tell in the million years since your english is basically perfect and almost no accent (well I could tell you werent born in english speaking country, but I was more thinking something where they speak english daily like denmark / norway / sweden). Svaka cast!
@loopstarnoob3921
@loopstarnoob3921 7 ай бұрын
Love your vids, i havent seen you make a vid on hybrids or diffrent types of transmisons Those would great and i want to learn more from you
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 7 ай бұрын
The people worrying about water in the air flow/engine. About 30 years ago, got a little work done on a non turboed, 1.6l corolla engine ( the racing engine but not worked to that amount ), not huge but enough to upset the 6 cylinder commodores ( 3l I think ) and falcon (4.2l ) drivers of that time. Was told there will be more power in wet weather, it was scarily true, that much power on wet roads.
@ofgheo3889
@ofgheo3889 7 ай бұрын
Sitting here wondering if I can throw it onto a motorcycle🤔
@collinclay3803
@collinclay3803 5 ай бұрын
Im not expert on these systems but what I can tell you is a motorcycle engine works in the same way any other 4 stroke fuel injected engine works. One question I have is if there is a noticeable power increase on NA engines. I imagine there’s is a big increase in safety/reliability but I’m sure the big power jumps come from using this system on boosted applications. (Again I’m no expert so this is all based off conjecture)
@Mylity66
@Mylity66 5 ай бұрын
Ah me too, further, how would soomeone go about modifying a carbureted motorcycle to use water inyection.... ive been reading on it, and as far as i can tell it can and has been done with great success, the question that remains in my mind is how do I go about doing it with scrap.... I was thinking maybe modifying a normal carburator to have 2 needles, the normal one pulling gasoline and a second one pulling water. The gasoline gets pulled up like a tiny drop and it gets pulverized by the piston creating great negative pressure towards the engine.... i don't see why wouldn't an Ethanol/water mixture do the same. Only problem is with carbs you have to go completely by feel when adjusting, no fancy computerized settings and fine tunning. Just listen to the engine.
@mrmorizofan7001
@mrmorizofan7001 7 ай бұрын
thanks again, loving the content!
@FixingWithFriends
@FixingWithFriends 7 ай бұрын
On a metal to plastic fitting, I would definitely add some sort of thread sealant like you did (even if it's just nylon tape). I know plastics are better than they used to be, but relying on plastic threads is not something I am fond of.
@sameregarde
@sameregarde 6 ай бұрын
nice rakija injection for this mr2
@mastercricket7626
@mastercricket7626 7 ай бұрын
Damn .. this is perfect timing as this is my next upgrade 😅... respect bro ... peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z famz and keep having fun brotha.. ps i truly thank you for all your shared knowledge bro
@bluestoneracing9719
@bluestoneracing9719 7 ай бұрын
I actually really like this guy and his knowledge is almost impeccable, haha almost, OK so I have to go back to a video as I'm new to the channel so this is on the bigger brakes don't stop cars quicker thing video where of course he is 99.9% correct, the 0.1% of inaccuracy is that he stated pretty well 0% of people will have brake failure, well I've had two and in some regions and under circumstances it is actually quite common. OK wrong video to comment it on, no one will read it, he certainly won't but phew got that off my chest now I can continue to enjoy his content 😂
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
I read it. There is no such thing as impeccable knowledge. If your vehicle isn't ancient, then your brake system failed not because of its design but because it was not in optimal condition in terms of maintenance or your vehicle was overloaded or something else outside the realm of the design of the system itself.
@shariqkamal649
@shariqkamal649 7 ай бұрын
Nice videos keep us entertained
@EDesigns_FL
@EDesigns_FL 7 ай бұрын
Manifold pressure is only one metric that should be used in determining spray volume: RPM should also be used, and I'm surprised that the Snow Performance ECU doesn't monitor this. Though the system looks okay, the fact that it doesn't use RPM in calculating how much to inject makes is very inefficient. It will inject more than necessary at low RPM's and may not inject enough at high RPM's.
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
Imt afraid you don't understand how a turbocharged engine works. The engine can't build boost at low rpm. This system never injects anything below 3800 and then it starts with a small quantity and injects progressively
@EDesigns_FL
@EDesigns_FL 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a My primary vehicle is turbocharged and I have had several others. I also have been using water injection systems before you were even alive. It's you who lacks knowledge on this subject. If your engine is not building max boast before 3800 rpm, then it's an incredibly poorly designed system. While it might be acceptable for a 1/4 mile track car, that is a ridiculous amount of turbo lag for a street or road course vehicle. Further, relying upon a single pressure sensor to control a water injection system is a certain recipe for a catastrophic failure. RPM mapping also prevents water from getting injected at low speeds where is could cause a hydro-lock.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 7 ай бұрын
I think the Snow Performance kit can be considered as a "starter kit" for water/meth injection. They give you a simple controller, just to get you started. But as mentioned above, a better controller would be ideal. I think some aftermarket ECUs can do that.
@EDesigns_FL
@EDesigns_FL 7 ай бұрын
@@michaelblacktree That's a kind way to describe it, but, at the price it's being sold for, I would use slightly harsher adjectives. The first water injection system I used was an Edlbrock Vara-jection and it was far more capable then the Snow, and was a fraction of the price. Aquamist probably makes the best system now. Snow had to have paid this YT'er, because there is no way that he doesn't appreciate how bad their injection system is.
@las3k91
@las3k91 7 ай бұрын
@@EDesigns_FL maybe AEM is better?
@Yan1nc
@Yan1nc 7 ай бұрын
I gained power since my car was running ''hot'' so the timing reference in the cell was worse before WMI, i was able to drop up to 15C at WOT, pretty insane
@cameron4017
@cameron4017 7 ай бұрын
Dude I was literally thinking about this and maybe doing it to my e46 but I haven’t researched anything yet
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 7 ай бұрын
Most E46 setups use a front-mount intercooler, so intake temps shouldn't be an issue. If you have access to E85, that will help control knock. So you don't really need water/methanol injection.
@holycrossgleam777
@holycrossgleam777 5 ай бұрын
I think EGR system will be great on meth water fuel injection Just a though 😊
@scottc74
@scottc74 2 ай бұрын
Just fyi, as far as I know, your O2 sensor reads O2 which is a result of Lambda. It doesn’t know or care what type of fuel you’re running, it reads how far you are from Lambda. The A/F reading is just a calculation for gasoline. It’s probably less confusing to set your gauge to display Lambda.
@szymoniak75
@szymoniak75 7 ай бұрын
Could you upload more of your driving (with no commentary) that you included at the end of the video? Oh and it's not that I don't like your commentary or something, it was very fun and informative video to watch (even though I have no interest in installing water injection lol) but the driving part with just the car sounds was very relaxing for some reason.
@observingrogue7652
@observingrogue7652 6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@benedictgoodman3995
@benedictgoodman3995 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always, d4a. You’re one of my favorite KZbinrs. I was wondering, is there any way to run water+methanol injection on an n/a setup and see a substantial increase in power (10-30%)? It seems like you’d be able to have stupid advanced timing on an engine that can handle the pressure, considering there’s extra cooling and no boost. (So small chance of knock.) The reason I ask is for under $1000 and straight forward installation, this would be a great mod before adding a turbo. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. The deal with NA engines is that most of them are not knock limited, and increasing timing further beyond max power usually leads to power loss rather than knock. It's usually only very high compression ratio NA engines that run a significant risk of knock. So, in general, water meth injection will not yield significant power increase with an NA engine. It's a good idea if high octane gas isn't available or in extremely hot climates and to keep the internals clean but it won't allow for big power gains because there's no boost or timing to be increased. The only time when water-methanol can get power on NA is if the engine knocks before optimal ignition timing, but in that case, water meth is just a band-aid rather than the solution to the root cause.
@mariabarbarapereiranascime1592
@mariabarbarapereiranascime1592 7 ай бұрын
Could you use it in an NA engine with increased compression ratio, in order to decrease fuel consumption?
@dylan4972
@dylan4972 7 ай бұрын
I run a mix of 1L of distilled water with 1.1L of methanol. 2x1000cc nozzles one pre turbo and one post.
@hxkenneth
@hxkenneth 7 ай бұрын
The check valve prevents the boost from pushing the liquid back. What stops liquid from being injected when not intended is a solenoid.
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
The check valve has a crack pressure of 7 psi, which means nothing gets injected below that.
@hxkenneth
@hxkenneth 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a that makes sense! Thanks for the correction
@dave_xc
@dave_xc 7 ай бұрын
what about the advantages of this system on na engines?
@darksideXLable
@darksideXLable 7 ай бұрын
He did cover this in his previous video and he explicitly mentioned it too...?
@enjoythesilence5358
@enjoythesilence5358 7 ай бұрын
This is sick level video
@Ray77582
@Ray77582 7 ай бұрын
You’re awesome. Thank you so much for explaining my question in your video. Can I install this on a non turbocharged stock engine for reducing knocks caused by low quality gas and benefit from removing carbon buildups?
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
If decent gas isn't available this is a good alternative, you can get the benefits by injecting minimal quantities
@Ray77582
@Ray77582 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a thanks 🙏
@spindash64
@spindash64 2 ай бұрын
​@@d4aI think the Japanese did that in WWII, actually: one of their later aircraft engines ran almost constant water injection to make up for the absolutely abysmal fuel quality and rationing they were going through, using things like _Pine Oil_ to stretch out their stock.
@andrzejt1984
@andrzejt1984 7 ай бұрын
I'm also curious if you can achieve the same power numbers with just water instead of 50/50 water ethanol mix, just with a different quantities?
@andrzejt1984
@andrzejt1984 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video with explanations. Can't wait to know the final power numbers on you build. I was really wondering if that system can be used with a fully mechanical diesel, like a build OM 606. Knowing that it can live with just a boost reference without being directly coupled with the ECU gives me confidence that it can be done.
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
This is an independent system that just needs power, ground and boost reference. You can adapt it to pretty much anything. You can find the dyno in the previous video
@andrzejt1984
@andrzejt1984 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a yes, but You had to stop the dyno at about 5800 RPM, due to hoses falling off with all that boost. I hope you'll get the hoses fixed and re-dyno it, hopefully cracking the 300HP number
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
Oh you watched the vid? Thank you. I'll try to do some more improvements to the intercooler airflow and then I'll shoot for another dyno
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 7 ай бұрын
Awesome channel 👌🏼
@liver.flush.maestro
@liver.flush.maestro 7 ай бұрын
Interesting to see the Saab water injection nozzle is set before the turbo compressor intake, but there doesn't seem to be an inter-cooler, in the diagram at least.
@toycoma98
@toycoma98 7 ай бұрын
You didn't talk about what type of fluid you can put in the tank. Speed Sauce, Boost Juice, windshield washer fluid? Or just Distilled water?
@putraadriansyah8082
@putraadriansyah8082 7 ай бұрын
Can i use this setup on a N/A engine that have high compression (too much material removed when resurfacing) so I still can make power and use regular pump gas? The engine knocks so loud under heavy load
@a_limajdd-xu5kt
@a_limajdd-xu5kt 6 ай бұрын
Enjoyable,👏🏿👍
@davinci8388
@davinci8388 7 ай бұрын
I wonder what's the result and limit of using nitrogen liquid or dry ice to cool the air in the intercooler ... perhaps one day you can look into that option 😊
@charlesdeco3821
@charlesdeco3821 6 ай бұрын
Could you do a video comparing the sustainability/impact on the environment for the different options when it comes to buy a car ? You already did a very good video showing that both ice and electric vehicles have a similar impact on the environment but could you do a video with a broader spectrum of solutions like hydrogen, retrofitted EV, Used compared to new, hybrid…
@d4a
@d4a 6 ай бұрын
I could, but there's no real data to support any of the claims, just educated guesses. Different researches all give different numbers.
@chromaticwolf7433
@chromaticwolf7433 7 ай бұрын
Video posted 9 mins ago, lets gooo
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7 5 ай бұрын
Was just look at this kit online..
@oikkuoek
@oikkuoek 7 ай бұрын
An issue with this system: The spray pattern. When any liquid is "Atomized" especially in pressurized environment, more pressure extends the liquid form of matter, the system needs a pressure chamber i.e fuel rail, where the pump feeds the liquid and the liquid pressure can be regulated. Then the actual mist feed into the intake is done with solenoid, fast moving electro magnetic valve. This way you'll have regulated amount of mist with no droplets that can damage your engine. If you simply hose your liquid inside your engine, the mist turns into squirt when the pump shuts off, or turns on. Depending on your boost pressure, you'll then have 60% or less actual mist, and rest of the feed is still liquid. This is especially bad when you are at your target boost level and your revs are high. The engine is using a lot of air, so your intake contents are used fast, while most of the pump offerings is liquid due to high pressure. Yes, the possibility for the liquid to vaporize while hitting your intake valve is high, but also the liquid getting inside your combustion chamber is at it's highest. The silliest thing to do is dump a fortune into your rotating assembly and then kill it with a cheap garden hose system.
@MeatPez
@MeatPez 4 ай бұрын
14:55 low key exposed the KZbin experts😂😂😂 Just cause mamma gave you an iPad and you looked up a couple things one evening doesn’t mean you’re smarter than the guy actually doing stuff to his car
@autoacoustics4938
@autoacoustics4938 7 ай бұрын
Could I install this system on a Vauxhall Astra J VXR without any tuning just to keep the intake and valves clean , will the O2 sensor adjust the fuel trim and will the cat be safe ?
@Tunerfly69
@Tunerfly69 6 ай бұрын
Hey there, I've watched your video and a lot of them more and I'm a young tuning fan. Long story short, I have a question to the cooling system and the problem about having the engine in the rear. Wouldn't it be possible to make a roof scoop that goes right onto the opening for the intercooler to get more air to it. Like on the honda nsx GT? Couldn't that help more with the cooling too? And sorry for my bad english, im trying my best. Love your videos, learned a lot of tuning just from you :)
@TXPer
@TXPer 7 ай бұрын
Profesor Chris made similar video with diy "kit"
@asdf8asdf8asdf8asdf
@asdf8asdf8asdf8asdf 7 ай бұрын
Can be done to regular old Camry? THAT would make a killer video, too
@evgennaukovich1895
@evgennaukovich1895 7 ай бұрын
Nice video, thanks. What about nozzle location for direct injection engine with water to air intercooler integrated into intake manifold?
@jj3ff3r50n808
@jj3ff3r50n808 3 ай бұрын
Those bung adapters are usually on the thick side. Do you need to worry about the nozzle being a bit recessed in the bung and spraying some within the walls of the bung?
@NyxOne81
@NyxOne81 7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you could control your water meth kit more efficiently if you’d manage it with your AEM ECU. Might I also suggest adding fail safe ?
@andrasleventepirka9814
@andrasleventepirka9814 7 ай бұрын
Pls make a video abaout two stroke diesel engines
@bakters
@bakters 7 ай бұрын
When the video analyzing the reasons for your engine blowing up? Next year? ;-) Oh, I'm not complaining. It will likely be followed up with: "How to do an LS swap?", "How to boost it into the Moon?" and with the inevitable "How not to boost it into the Moon?" ;-)
@rexmcstiller4675
@rexmcstiller4675 7 ай бұрын
I would recommand you an water intercooler.
@alexgo1034
@alexgo1034 7 ай бұрын
I already recommend it -the answer was No ) its phantom pain I think ))) Nobody would move to air-air intercooler after water cooled -difference is huge
@rexmcstiller4675
@rexmcstiller4675 7 ай бұрын
@@alexgo1034 It would make the moste sence in this car
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 7 ай бұрын
Thanks d4a
@leomux2004
@leomux2004 7 ай бұрын
Can you install a water/meth kit on a N/A high compression engine? Or it's exclusive to forced induction?
@robertrocheville7769
@robertrocheville7769 7 ай бұрын
You can
@cmonson122s
@cmonson122s 6 ай бұрын
Love the video. I am installing a Snow Stage 3 kit. it allows for using boost or injector pulse or a combination of both as a reference for the controller. When using injector pulse as a reference point would the same 40% rule apply?
@mariowario1204
@mariowario1204 7 ай бұрын
Would this be a possibility for a Diesel Engine? Or would this sort of "tuning" only work in a gasoline engine?
@b10gazza
@b10gazza 7 ай бұрын
Great video, makes it easy to understand.One question,can water alcohol injection be used on a normally aspirated engine ?
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
It can, but there's less benefit
@b10gazza
@b10gazza 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a Thanks for your reply, I will look into it. Cheers.
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 7 ай бұрын
Why is it ok to inject before the roots supercharger? It seems it would be better to cool the charge AFTER the supercharger has compressed/heated the air than before. I live in the desert driving a Mini R53 and WMI seems like a perfect fit in this environment.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 7 ай бұрын
The water/meth mixture helps to fill the gaps between the rotors and the casing, which slightly improves the blower efficiency. Plus it provides some cooling for the blower. That said, with some blowers the coating on the rotors can't handle fuel or other chemicals. So it's a good idea to check on that.
@jerry250ify
@jerry250ify 5 ай бұрын
Does this have any measurable effect without forced induction?
@DaveFromColorado
@DaveFromColorado 7 ай бұрын
I've heard of a lot of people using just water injection.... how do you feel about that, and could you help explain the benefits and setbacks of using just water over water / methanol injection?
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
I did in the previous video
@DaveFromColorado
@DaveFromColorado 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a ... for some odd reason thought I had already watched it ... whether or not I did is a moot point, I will go back and watch it again.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 7 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍💪✌
@IrfaanEmrith
@IrfaanEmrith 7 ай бұрын
will the vapor affect the map sensor ?
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 7 ай бұрын
Although the relative location and distance of the nozzle is important… How about the angle of discharges impact on cylinder to cylinder distribution?
@ritermaster
@ritermaster 7 ай бұрын
noice
@coqulation
@coqulation 7 күн бұрын
I have a mechanical diesel, can I do boost based method kit?
@liamjackson4454
@liamjackson4454 7 ай бұрын
What intercooler are you using, I’m planning a similar build and in need of an intercooler
@melvindevries_nl
@melvindevries_nl 7 ай бұрын
The hills are beautiful to ride, where is this?
@d4a
@d4a 7 ай бұрын
Bosnia
@melvindevries_nl
@melvindevries_nl 7 ай бұрын
@@d4a Never knew it was this nice, I'll put it on my holiday list. This year Czech republic, Hungary and Romania, hopefully the next year Bosnia.
@robertkoval8406
@robertkoval8406 7 ай бұрын
Is it worth to install this kit in order to just keep engine clean? I have ea113 engine with enough power but want to keep it without carbon deposits
@arlokkkk
@arlokkkk 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video but is it better to just get a flex fuel sensor and go e85? Please advise. Thanks
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 Ай бұрын
0:39 "and because they sent it to me for free and paid me to gush about how good it is!"
@MrLince-hr4of
@MrLince-hr4of 7 ай бұрын
i am interested to electroc turbo in NA engines
@randomgamer1433
@randomgamer1433 Ай бұрын
This works for disels too right?
@user-gr8ko2bu4w
@user-gr8ko2bu4w 7 ай бұрын
what would this do for my 7.3 diesel power stroke
@collinclay3803
@collinclay3803 5 ай бұрын
How would the setup be modified for a engine with dual throttle bodies or even ITB’s? I have a vq37vhr that I would like to boost. Seeing as you can’t spray directly into the turbo/centrifugal SC my assumption is that you would somehow need to split the line and plug it into both of the intake pipes? Is this the best way to go about it or is there another solution that would work better? Any ideas would be appreciated!! I live in texas where ambient temps easily reach 40c in the summer time and this system would be a huge benefit for my future build projects!
@datorr7470
@datorr7470 5 ай бұрын
I plan on endurance racing my audi with 1.8t. Intake is right next to turbo and well, hot air. So i have been thinking of this setup after the intercooler. How long does this setup last time wise?
@johnnyappleseed9254
@johnnyappleseed9254 7 ай бұрын
They recommend the tank and pump be installed below the intake manifold to insure there isn’t any gravity fed leaking of fluid into engine, correct? I have tried calling tech support at Snow performance but they were completely unhelpful. Well, they did say the kit with a solenoid could be installed either way but didn’t explain why. Im assuming the solenoid acts as a valve to stop fluid from free flowing and that’s why it can be installed either way, whereas, the kits without a solenoid have to be installed as shown in your video to avoid leaking. I just ordered mine yesterday so I’m trying to familiarize myself as much as possible with all of this before diving into the install. Thanks
@johnnyappleseed9254
@johnnyappleseed9254 7 ай бұрын
I ordered the stage 2.5 diesel universal kit
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