MrGirl Confronts Destiny After Getting Ban And Fuentes Drama Explained

[@LastNightDestiny]

"YOU SHOULD BE FIRED" - MrGirl Confronts Destiny And Moderator, Lists Demands ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpu3eoqdfLeXd5o

[@Frederik_uk]

You're a legend. Cheers bud for editing this so quick on both channels.

[@ekysnoir]

5:05 nodders excactly Mr Girl ouch

[@kungfujoe2136]

and this is why destiny is not a leftist he's to smart

[@johnappleseed8146]

13:50 is not remotely true. Havent found a single negative comment regarding nicks interview w no jumper

[@MrMousseTache]

Imagine being Rose Wrist on your last stream (because you can't stand political streaming culture anymore) trying to say farewell to Steven and having to listen to irrelevant orbiter drama for ~30 min

[@bluebarrymore5442]

its poetic really

[@rodiculous9464]

Wasn't he doing it for like a year at most? Dude gave up pretty quick

[@knightjayy3841]

mr girl said it would take only 10 minutes too 😂

[@thescarecrow897]

Bro he'll be back in 20 days chill out. Last stream ever my ass

[@Lemonteaxi]

@@thescarecrow897 my thoughts exactly. Rose is literally too smart to think stopping streaming is bad. He’s like 19 on the verge of a breakthrough to his own community. He would easily pull from both vgg and dgg if he continues on his current path.

[@matthewpeverill5688]

"I'm at war with the Destiny Subreddit, NOT Destiny, I want to make that clear, this war of declaration is on the Subreddit, NOT DESTINY!!!" One Week Later "Destiny why are you personally banning me? Why are you supporting and encouraging your mods to ban me? Don't you know I love you? Don't you know how I personally love you so much? I said that Destiny, don't you understand how close we are?" We are drawing ever closer to inevitable conclusion of Mr Girl killing Destiny to wear his face on stream because he wants to be inside Destiny.

[@smiff513]

He has now also declared war on destiny himself lul

[@HyperDangerousThing]

Destiny is a girls name, makes sense

[@aSSGoblin1488]

i really hope destiny didn't go full lesbian and slept with mr. girl. For Mr.Girl is not a girl's name but Destiny is

[@doobas2171]

@@smiff513 no he hasn’t did you not watch the video?

[@Narcissistic_Penguin]

Wait a second. “One week later” implies nothing happened during that week and mrgirl just flipped out for no reason. The thing that sparked this off was his mod banning him and Destiny upholding the ban. You can absolutely take issue with mrgirl kicking off for that reason but you’re doing your own history re-writing here to make your (admittedly pretty funny) joke more punchy. Yours sincerely, “a mrgirl and Destiny fanboy who can see both sides and is struggling to decide who’s in the right”

[@plushtrbl6831]

mrgirl is such an empath that he’s empathizing with people that aren’t there, most sane schizo poster

[@bentrinker1937]

Mr Girl is insane. Im glad we can see it in real time. I’ve known it the whole time! I love feeling validated.

[@Special_Agent_NSB]

You could say this about most politics youtubers. Including Destiny.

[@Karachsingstrue]

I'd say he is overemotional here and takes it a little too personal. Or he is just wrong which is fine.

[@ChristmasLore]

Same. And no, Max is insane in a very peculiar, clinical way. He's the worst, dangerous type of NPD, with a good dose of histrionic, which makes him a perfect abuser.

[@o.m.8936]

​@@Special_Agent_NSBlmao

[@dotanon]

MrGirl positions these conversations so that either you do what he wants or you're being manipulative. It's honestly sick. He plays the abusive relationship card, meanwhile he keeps acting like a girlfriend using a breakup as leverage. Which is defacto abusive. Tell him he is free to leave. He won't. Because he is simply overestimating his emotional capital as a bargaining chip.

[@HyperDangerousThing]

Sounds kind of personal, u alright? 😂😂

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

I mean dudes not wrong. You don't get to come into other people's spaces, tell them how to live , give a bunch of unsolicited advice then when you find out that the people aren't interest in what you have to say call everyone abusive. If you're in a social space and there's something going on thst you don't like, but they've stated they're not going to change, then you accept it or leave. Shit or get off the pot dude. Especially if what you want is some weird super position that really can't even be accomplished cause the set of things your asking for starte contradicting itself.

[@deebo429__]

Mr girl is basically coming on other peoples stream saying "ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" not realizing he's on other peoples stream lmao

[@benjammin775]

that last sentence is very well said. wow

[@deebo429__]

Holy fuck I typed that before max got on. He literally said it's okay to tell his friends it's not okay for them to hit their kids while he's around. Like bro the option is either you sit there and watch or you leave. You don't get to dictate other people's actions like what the fuck

[@sync4995]

I would listen to Fuentes all day every day rather than sit listening to MrGirl for an hour. Don't burn the bridge

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Sync Fuentes is insane and so are you

[@sync4995]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 I never said I listen to him, just if given the choice between Nick and Max I'm picking Nick 10/10. MrGirl is a schizo who will probably end up murdering someone because he's that type

[@Windmill360]

"Why won't your mod let me declare war on your subreddit, Destiny? WHY?!"

[@frankmarano1118]

Mr girl is so dramatic lol. I guess you could kind of say that's what makes his name such a good fit for him, especially because of how much he bases stuff on on his emotions or gut feeling

[@wilsonsclips_]

“ I know your mods like to use this as a convenient excuse but when I said repeatedly I’m declaring war on your sub reddit even on other podcasts and no jumper, obviously everyone clearly understands I didn’t mean it in THAT way”

[@sikleqt]

I'm sure Destiny's mods/head mods see and have to deal with so much shit that Mr. Girl has no clue even happens via Destiny's forum even just since Mr. Girl so-called, "declared war" on it. Is it that ridiculous to think that they have been dealing with Mr. Girl shit for long enough and an influx of it probably was the tipping point? - I've always seen Destiny's mods as being pretty reasonable. So there must have been way too much shit-stirring that was causing too much unneeded and unwarranted drama.

[@sikleqt]

I often question why Destiny even puts up with Mr. Girl. He is the most entitled person I have ever seen Destiny interact with. And my only guess is that it is actually is good for business...

[@BiggestDataBoy]

@@frankmarano1118 y’all don’t even recognize your own sexism lol

[@ZChoate]

Max, the reason that Destiny's fanbase is the only fanbase where you receive enormous amounts of hate is not because of the mods, it's because it's the only community online that knows who you are.

[@PurgPurg]

Lmao that’s so true. I had no IDEA who mrgirl was until I started getting back into destiny last week

[@krollmond7544]

When I first heard about he just seemed like an edgy wannabe, I didn't care too much for his music or liking weird movies. But God the more time I listened to him on here the more I was convinced about how much of a whiney manchild he is.

[@halfbloodprincess989]

Exactly xD

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

Mr girl earns his own hate

[@limitedhangoutlive]

Oof, and true.

[@nvoitek]

Wait, so you make an ultimatum, lose an ultimatum, and then whine that it's unfair? Isn't the point of ultimatum is that either someone does what you want or you go? Why being banned matters if they didn't want to agree to your ultimatum, shouldn't you leave then anyway to show you have some dignity?

[@dillylongwaves]

whining is a part of Max's ultimatum because he wants to be transparent with Destiny and Destiny has consented to continue explicit communication and interactions, giving Max the freedom to do so. He could also leave but he doesn't want to continue warring with Destiny

[@TheAxeter]

I mean why would you ban someone for just making an ultimatum. Leave it there and disagree, banning just seems avoidant and possibly even corrupt

[@joosthartog1333]

@@TheAxeter maybe because u try to moderate your platforms? Sounds to me like it could get quite toxic if everyone can make ultimatums and talk about war with ur subreddit. You can disagree while staying respectfull and thus not giving a bad example to others. I feel like the wording is the reason this caught so much fire, maybe the ban should tell u to tone down a little instead of doubling down.

[@TheAxeter]

@@joosthartog1333 ultimatums are not inherently toxic, a clear example of it is banning for making an ultimatum, which you don't think is bad in this case

[@vibez2806]

@@TheAxeter if your ultimatums are trying to control someone else space then they can ban you if they want. this is as "corrupt" and "avoidant" as me kicking you out for wearing shoes in my house.

[@mambamentality5875]

Mr Girl needs to stop acting like there are no social norms in conversation. Just because he says exactly how he feels in every moment doesn't make him correct and also isn't the best form of communication. If everyone communicated this way, it would be chaotic as you can see from many of Mr Girl conversations (dealing with all emotions and specifying what we mean with each word used). He has to learn how to tone it down or not say out loud every moment when he feels like he's losing in a conversation. I don't know how any human can tolerate this self-absorbed human behavior long term.

[@dillylongwaves]

I think he wants someone to adapt to him before he adapts to them. He's traumatised from his past relationships and he wants to be heard before he can participate in a 50/50. I think he is actually communicating in a healthy manner, but it's okay to take breaks from that - which may also be something which should be communicated. I'm not sure who's responsibility it is to handle this, (well really it's both parties), but it could look like this, "Hey Max, I'd rather we communicated in a way that I'm more adjusted to for a while if that's okay", or Max can say, "Hi Destiny, it looks like you're not really feeling this right now, should we try something else? Would you like for me to make that decision for you?" I'm really nervous from anticipation over their Max's relationship with Destiny (vice versa) and others because I really wanna see how this all goes, however, I'm not really sure if he should have a platform for some of his views. I wanna share that I'm still trying to work that out.

[@Immor7alBG]

I find it hilarious that he's facing the same issue as Sneako, who at least has the excuse that he's young and doesn't know better. You can't come into a space and think you can make everyone play by your rules and hail you as some saviour savant who came from the heavens to guide them on the right path no one else knew existed.

[@dillylongwaves]

@@Immor7alBG And it is the case that Destiny says that the way he navigates the world, relationships and his career is the way that he wants to and that works for him, regardless of whether or not Max can help.

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@dillylongwaves Dawg, if the creep is too traumatized to have a 50/50 convo with an internet stranger without sperging out then he's too traumatized to be a public figure. The "healthy thing to do" is for MrCreep to ban HIMSELF from the internet.

[@dillylongwaves]

@@Stop_Gooning the implication is sort of that Destiny isn't doing 50/50 here either, he only wants the conversation to follow his own rules.

[@motalasuger]

- “I’m going to war with X” - “Why am I not allowed to be at X anymore?! This is abusive!” Guess it’s a mystery some will never know the answer to…

[@TheAxeter]

Weird way of phrasing it, i think "war" on a sub reddit is just criticism and disagreement. Which doesn't warrant a fair ban, but it's Destiny's platform so being fair to me is not a demand. Just a suggestion

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

@@TheAxeter normal people don't when thier unsolicited advice isn't taken call the situation abusive.

[@sameash3153]

The war thing was literally a joke, everybody on the subreddit acknowledged it as a joke at the time. Following that, the subreddit became unhinged. Somewhere around 100-200 destiny fans that don't even like Max were banned for criticizing 4thot's reaction. I saw somebody get banned just for pointing out that the "dogwarts" posters that 4thot referenced didn't have any posts in favor of MrGirl and were quoting a Dan meme. Then everybody went over to the MrGirl subreddit to complain about their ban, then 4thot doubled down even harder and said the MrGirl fans were brigading the reddit and writing anti-Destiny posts on the mrgirl subreddit, when, all of those posters were new MG posters who all were in DGG from anywhere between 3-7 years, rightfully complaining about their ban. Max's ban itself was stupid, all he did was comment "no" on a post on the destiny subreddit that wasn't even by 4thot. Anyway, it's really disappointing to watch all of this. People hate Max so they can laugh at his ban and fine, more power to you, but the hundreds of innocent DGGers permabanned and told they can't appeal, many of whom don't even like Max, that's ridiculous, you can't really defend it

[@vibez2806]

@@sameash3153 proof that they were ban just for criticizing?? they werent rightfully complaining, they were whining that they got caught. and no his ban aint stupid, he said that he was going against them so why wouldnt they ban him? yes i will defend it, they arent innocent. you arent entitled to someone else space. geez cant believe i have to explain this

[@vibez2806]

@@TheAxeter disagreement which was talking bad about it and yes it clearly warrant a fair ban 😂

[@jChocoKettle]

Mr Gaslight: ''I'm declaring war on you'' also ''Why won't you like me?'' This f'ing guy

[@TheAxeter]

Declaring war on his sub reddit and when did he say why won't you like me? All i heard was, don't ban me

[@fluffydolphins4297]

@@TheAxeter he said in chat logs or something it wasn’t on this stream

[@lmesen1873]

Bad faith + strawman + gaslight + L

[@bullgodjake]

Mr. Girl is going to be one of D's archenemies, exactly like Vaush. His full heel turn just hasn't happened yet.

[@daxx1985]

major psycho chick that shall not be named vibes from Mr. Girl in this convo... IM JUST SETTING BOUNDARIES.....

[@SaVanityVan]

Nah, he's gonna be Destiny's next Ana, probably worse since he has the same issues she does but manifested more outwardly abusively.

[@doobas2171]

Why does everyone doom-say like this, but he’ll be fine

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@doobas2171 The MrCreep potato isn't hot, it's radioactive. Holding onto that motherfucker causes cellular atrophy and terminal cancer.

[@Miserableatbest303]

Funny how things played out. haha

[@tenaccarli171]

Max claims to be highly empathic. But for some reason, he does not seem to understand that telling somebody that they are doing their job wrong and that they will go to war with them (literally writing out a declaration) for that reason is ultra aggressive and combative and people do not like these things in their work place. So they use their power to get rid of the aggressor. And then goes to the manager complaining that their employee does not let them attack them indefinitely. He is behaving like a Karen xD

[@godsstrongestschizo]

xD

[@he.5865]

Do you honestly think if you asked him if he understood what you're saying he would say no? How did you actually think you were making a valid point here?

[@tenaccarli171]

@@he.5865 my point is that max is behaving like a karen, duh :P he clearly does not understand. otherwise he would not behave like he does. it is not his place to make any of those asks in the manner he does. if he does not realise that, then he does NOT understand. very simple. It is not your place to tell the cashier to treat you better than the other customers, and then call the manager complaining that they dont do like you ask them even after you kept naging them until they decided to not deal with you any more and refuse your buisness.

[@dillylongwaves]

@@tenaccarli171 This is not a store this is a consenting relationship between two people who have a complex power dynamic. A question for insight could be: What does it mean if Max does understand and is empathic but is continuing to act this way? If he doesn't have negative intentions and he insists that he loves Destiny, what is he up to?

[@he.5865]

@@tenaccarli171 But your point of disagreement isn't with the action. There's no way you think that the action of telling someone what they should do is never justified. Your point of disagreement is with the virtuosity of the action - which means that you think that destiny should be banning people that like mrgirl, as he stated is happening (you can't argue this). And don't give me this bs that it's not actually him, this applies nowhere else. If Russia knows each and every soldier committing war crimes but still allow those soldiers to commit those crimes but even though they aren't explicitly ordering for these crimes to be committed they are responsible for those war crimes. Would be interesting to hear whether you can address any of my points.

[@dotanon]

MrGirl seems to feel entitled to far more from other people than he himself is willing (or able) to give. The way he treated StarDust and basically suggested she should somehow express her internal feelings in a brutally honest 3 page essay where she acknowledges every human flaw she has and how she could have acted in a way more trusting of him in order to save the friendship was telling. He expects others to cater to his whims with the intensity of the sun. And with Destiny he seems to feel entitled to his community, as if he is owed the ability to inject himself into it when he pleases. It's like he's a mind-parasite. At least in Destiny's case, Destiny is good at maintaining a sort of aloof disconnection, i.e. not feeding Max what he wants. Destiny will just cut off conversations very assertively once there's no common ground to be found. I think ironically this is why Max is so attached to Destiny. He's the only one who seems to resist his bullshit in a real unemotional way. Like Max is still probing at Destiny's shell and hasn't been able to get through. He is interesting if only because he seems incapable of feeling any sort of shame about his exhibitionist tendencies towards airing every dark part of his psyche, like his weird borderline abusive girlfriend video, but he is incredibly needy. He is incapable of true perspective taking, in that while he may be able to assume correctly what other people feel, he is incapable of understanding the underlying reasons why they don't act in the way he would like them to. He is controlling and domineering with an open minded and calm veneer.

[@saulgood2836]

He is very introspective to a lot of things about himself but when it comes to some his flaws like wanting ppl to think exactly like he does, he will not see that as a flaw cuz in his mind he is right and if someone disagrees he gets upset and there is no compromise

[@bentrinker1937]

True! He is insane. This is the guy who says random stuff like I’m gonna rape you or I’m gonna assault you then takes the most unique was to interpret something and hes gonna get mad at being accused of playing word games? BruhV it’s his whole identity online.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

well like zherka, destiny has unique chemistry with mrgirl. with zherka destiny is free to troll three layers deep with mrgirl destiny is free to be a girls name

[@doobas2171]

He’s just upset and feels wronged and alienated by the mod, can’t you empathize with that?

[@ugh_dad]

I know how this sounds, but unironically Max is the embodiment of what Ana thought she saw in Destiny

[@Therosx]

I think Max hasn’t learned how to separate his professional and personal relationships. I also think he takes himself waaaaaaaaaay too seriously for this line of work. To him every encounter with Steven is make or break. For Steven it’s just Saturday.

[@andrewcox5873]

He’s also incapable of taking an L. If I was Mr Girl in this situation I would have said “well, Destiny isn’t going to change his moderation stance, I laid out my case and it didn’t convince him, I beat let this issue go” and instead he digs deeper and deeper and deeper

[@jagomae.]

he is very smitten with Steven . . .

[@idanthyrsus6887]

Mr girl might be nice irl but online all I've ever seen is intolerance, narcissism and gaslighting.

[@SaVanityVan]

I can't imagine why you would expect someone to be BETTER off camera than they are on lol what you see on camera is him moderating himself, he's probably an actual nightmare irl

[@idanthyrsus6887]

@@SaVanityVan I was trying to be nice. I don't expect him to be much better irl.

[@magicdragon9621]

@@SaVanityVan True. He's wayyy to comfortable arguing with people

[@ericpalmer3588]

He’s not nice, he just speaks in a calm and laid back way.

[@shiiswii4136]

Steven tells u how and what to think about everyone of his orbiters, ofc u think that, it's the most boring and common view in these comments

[@cratoic1603]

Not going to lie, a lot of the more recent conversations with Mr. Girl that has happened made me not like him anymore. I was on the fence about him before, but after the past few arcs, my feelings about him have been solidfied. He seems too high maintenance.

[@shiiswii4136]

Ur feelings are solidified...u sound like vaush, destiny is telling u how and what to think about mrgirl because mrgirl is turning a bit on destiny for a few reasons so destiny's attacking him. Ur first impression like alot of others were good for mrgirl, and then destiny's corruption starts to take hold later on or now

[@cratoic1603]

@@shiiswii4136 Bro, what are you talking about? It's literally just as simple as Mr. Girl being too controlling of conversations; making it become super frustrating to listen to. Mind you I've always felt this way. I've always had an inkling he was high maintenance when he came on stream early on to talk about his and Destiny's relationship/friendship even though nothing even happened between them. I always felt that talk was unnecessary and a little bit strange for where they were in their friendship. This isn't because of Destiny's "corruption". This is because of Mr. Girl himself.

[@silversalmon9909]

​@@shiiswii4136lmao telling other ppl their feelings are solidified when you literally open with "youre like vaush". Stop projecting kid

[@smiff513]

He wasn't even having a conversation with destiny he was just talking to the audience to paint destiny out to crazy unfair dictator

[@YemYum]

Mrgirl would easily burn every bridge over a minor disagreement. I truly feel bad for any previous relationships he had with anyone.

[@DavidTitus_]

That's not true at all.

[@TheAxeter]

That's pretty mean to say, especially if you listened to the end of the video, he asks to distance this disagreement from their friendship if possible

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

@@TheAxeter yeah max asks for alot of things that contradict themselves.

[@TheAxeter]

@@thomaswalmsley8959 That was not a contradiction

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

@@TheAxeter yes when destiny said okay maybe well work something out so you have a more active moderator role mr said I don't want to be more active, while literally have thay conversations about being more active. Mr girl wants to be in permanent super position in all relationships/interactions

[@Transhumanist_Adam]

Imagine Max calling someone else abusive

[@FullMetalAtheist]

Mr Girl needs to at all times have the narrative about him in his hands. That's the reason he specially said on stream he wouldn't let his girlfriend talk on stream because it's his narrative and he doesn't want her to change or alter the narrative about him. He can't stand not having control over everything.

[@Miserableatbest303]

yeah, did you know he doesn't even let her have a phone? lol

[@venomwirev2]

Im honestly more tired of Mr. Girl than i ever was of Nick and thats saying something.

[@simplelife88393]

Clipped the 30 seconds at 9:55. When the unforeseen explosion happens and Nick is elevated to an even playing field again, we'll see Steven.

[@wisekodiak2668]

Max: we’re going to war against DGG DGG mod: bans Max on DGG Max: this amounts to a war crime

[@byronbraddock]

I'm convinced Max would've understood all of this if Destiny either would love him back or hate him. He obviously can't understand indifference. Lol

[@dmvbawse4265]

11:11 the end of one of the funniest roast of a chatter I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t stop laughing and then he continues right where he left off 😂😂

[@ZaZaZoo22]

Me too! 😂😂😂

[@somerando8615]

This is the third stream I've watched where this dude complains about a subreddit for an hour. I've never see another human being so upset over Reddit drama more than this guy. Honestly the mod who forced him offline to go outside and touch grass probably did him a favor.

[@acew2306]

Are you saying he gets more upset about it than even Hasan does?

[@tulersmeesh4077]

@@acew2306 He's getting close if not more. Homie is levitating over the grass rn.

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@acew2306 Couldn't say for sure, never watched that dude.

[@Stop_Gooning]

I agree, the healthiest thing for EVERYBODY is for MrCreep to leave the Internet forever.

[@somerando8615]

I've never seen Hasan jump on 3 livestreams to complain about a subreddit

[@HostileTakeover555]

Me Girl = Emotional Vampire…I genuinely don’t understand how Destiny doesn’t see this

[@ProjectPaladin]

Sounds like a great addition to "What We Do in the Shadows".

[@HostileTakeover555]

@@ProjectPaladin I’m starting to think Mr. Girl is taking notes from that show 🎃

[@MARlOKART]

He is insufferable, how can anyone put up with this

[@dotanon]

Well put.

[@KaiJuxor]

I don't think Mr girl understands how frustrating it is to moderate and then have someone overturn your decision time and time again, I respect that destiny doesn't step on his moderators toes. It creates a whole mess when you have moderators dealing with each others bans.

[@GKJusticar55]

I feel like MrGirl is like that one friend that desperately has to have the deepest sounding insight on anything. I do admit what he says is aesthetically pleasing but his style of conversation is incredibly frustrating and obtuse.

[@auspiss]

it lowkey makes me emotional how much you do for these disillusioned internet loners. a figure like you that has faith that they (1) can avoid turning into a groyper or (2) be saved after becoming one is so so necessary

[@auspiss]

@@Sprite_525 thank u :)

[@signoguns8501]

Destiny is infinitely more effective at combating extremism than people like mrgirl, the "DONT PLATFORM HATE" crowd. "Hate" has already been platformed, its already out there. Refusing to address it or engage with it is just giving it free reign to control the narrative, youre alowing them to spread their message completely unchallenged, which is probably why extremism is bigger now than its ever been since the 20s and 30s. Extremist politics has never been so popular in the US.

[@yaboy7120]

thank god it got posted. tried to watch it after but it got removed 😅

[@DB_DARyl]

Mr girl is def doing that PIKACHU meme where he does something knowing he might get banned. But gets banned, and is surprised over it.

[@kevinh6008]

MrGirl has cult leader charisma.

[@TheAttercop]

"Fuentes is really a traditional center-right guy" is a take that aged like bad yogurt.

[@silversalmon9909]

How so?

[@kareemramzey8870]

We love timestamps ❤

[@saulgood2836]

I wish more ppl would realize that demonizing ppl they don't agree with and making them look evil is most likely going to push them to the other side more and make them more defensive so they are less likely to ever change for the better. That is one of the reasons why we are so divided in the usa now

[@armondtanz]

Yes. I went onto a review of ROP and left s comment. I mentioned woke hollywood, next thing u know im called a n*zi...

[@Stop_Gooning]

Dawg, you can't "demonize" demons like MrCreep, he does that to himself. Groypers are just a bunch of lonely virgins and gay dudes who are ashamed to come out. I PITY people who choose those beliefs in this day and age.

[@armondtanz]

@@Stop_Gooning There were 2 words i couldnt work out.... I thought they were saying grippers, but u stated the correct spelling. The other one i cant remember but it was a slang word prob used by community posters...

[@greggallardo3839]

Nazis shouldn't be demonized?

[@armondtanz]

@@greggallardo3839 no. You just simply transfer the word n@zi to your opponent. Do some reading most of the n@zi commanders were doctors, lawyers, teachers... it was the ideology of ayran superiority.... Strange that the n@zis were were obsessed with putting ppl into groups and categorising them And woke progressives do as welll.... Hmmmmmmmm. Have u not seen the ryan long comedy sketch? Racist agrees with wokeist??? Made me chuckle...

[@SuperChrisMD]

Mr. Girl constantly bringing up Steven being betrayed and stabbed in the back was fucking prophetic.

[@Mwrp86]

While I am seeing 4TH0T might ban MrGirl but I also think he had some personal grudge against MrGirl too . When Mr.Girl said you should be fired then Mod was basically like that's how it'll go so f*ck off. I think that was the start when 4TH0T was basically close monitoring MrGirl . Any chance he gets he will ban . Thats what exactly happened with this.

[@dotanon]

I think 4TH0T made the right call to be honest. MrGirl is the living embodiment of "give them an inch and they'll take a mile". There was definitely a degree of vengeance at play, but let's call that the cherry on top.

[@righteousrawb7225]

10:30 Destiny goes off on a chatter

[@MatichekYoutube]

After the ban, Max is self sabotaging and seeking conflict like crazy, as he said on his "confessions with mrgirl" - -> "go to therapy" and try to stop projecting your ban trauma on everyone else. Note: i am a fan of mrgirl but this is getting weird.

[@stevenwolbrueck6488]

Dude, it has been weird since they met.

[@ericpalmer3588]

He’s interesting because he is an abusive narcissist.

[@probablyzaddy]

Genuine question, why are you a fan of mrgirl?

[@silversalmon9909]

​@@probablyzaddyMy guess would be because Mr Girl is genuinely very good at being artistic. His music is nice and witty. His visuals are striking and dynamic. His writing is poetic. Also the fact that hes got some kind of worms in his brain that make him say unique and interesting stuff. So all in all, just kinda fun to look at. Maybe it gives this sense of learning or deep discovery too

[@Kuroganemk2]

17:40 Does that mean that the mod that went on a ban spree is going to the gulag?

[@MuhammadKhan-py7md]

He'll be given a medal and have to hide it like that one gramps who hid his kgb medal in a book and it got discovered after he passed

[@notuxnobux]

16:37 it's the opposite here in sweden. The most diverse regions are the most racist as well. It's mostly people (especially women) who dont live among immigrants that are left wing anti racists.

[@Necrophadez]

4:49 Deadbeatdaddism Amazin'

[@cosmic_ghostwolf]

Mr Girl desperately wants to be a victim, hero, and martyr all at the same time. He thinks that he's so courageous and that he sees things others can't. He is a level 100 narcissist.

[@bh1935]

Destiny sets up interviews for Fuentes and says he isn’t sure he’s antisemitic. Huge red flags

[@AppetiteForIllusions]

‘’2 minute conversation’’

[@oephry3253]

The point about Dr. K making people cry is true, but idk if I would give Max credit for it. I feel like I’ve seen Dr. K himself point that out to people. He’s also gone out of his way to “take care” of people in conversation by not pushing on things he doesn’t think they can handle, even when the other person give him the green light to.

[@silversalmon9909]

Mr Girls point about Dr K and crying was that he purposefully pushes people to an emotional edge with disregard for their care, simply wanting a good stream moment. I dont think theres been an atom of evidence for any of this. Genuinely think this came to Mr Girl in a dream one night and now he believes it

[@MrViper1330]

Mr girl gonna off himself honie going through it gotdamn

[@atticrat7270]

I think Mr Girl can be very thought provoking and interesting. At the same time, can come off as creepy AF.

[@rep-vile]

I completely disagree, don't think that he was ever interesting. He's just a performative clown trying to be quirky.

[@Stop_Gooning]

Dawg, the only thought MrCreep provokes is "this dude is a fucking creep."

[@ZaZaZoo22]

🤣 😂😂😂Destiny kicking that person out of chat was hilarious!

[@aarondavis8943]

There are pros and cons to being an orbiter. Anyone can go off on their own at any time, and many do and succeed. Instead, Mr Girl wants the pros without the cons, and rather than leaving and building his own solar system he remains under the gravitational influence so he can whine about being trapped.

[@NuttyAs]

Literally. If he had a backbone and believed the bullshit he said, his ultimatum would have him leave the orbit anyway. So he shouldn’t be mad about the ban.

[@zestylem0n]

Mr girl and all his fans seem to live in this childish idealized world where they can say whatever they want and force everyone around them to acknowledge their worldview as valid and therefore unassailable. Like he thinks he can go to war on dgg and suffer no consequences, but in reality no community would tolerate a self-proclaimed hostile minority that often refuses any compromises on their actions or beliefs in the way that Mr girl and Co do.

[@guillermocortes4415]

"I will rehabiltate Sneak0": Sneak0 gets banned and triples down on his misogyny "I will show everyone MrGirl isn't The manipulative creep everyone says he is": MrGirl does this. I'm just waiting for Aba to show up in a Ye's White Lives Matter knockoff jacket to be The finale of this arc.

[@kelmacett2456]

For context I'm not anyone's fan, i dont touch reddit. I only very very recently discovered this Destiny-Verse on youtube and got thrown into the full blow Infinity Drama Arc (with Sneako, MrGirl, Fuentes, etc..) and seeing Mr.Girl make his passive aggressive arguments drives me insane. He visibly doesn't look like he is doing psychologically well navigating this online/debate personality world - he is working the wrong field.

[@kamifuujin]

He wields his emotions like a sword and shield very exhausting listening to him.

[@Stop_Gooning]

You're not alone, I just like it when people yell at each other on the internet. Destiny yells real good though

[@kelmacett2456]

@@Stop_Gooning lol

[@epileptix8954]

A star does not ASK planets to orbit it. They just do. If the star gets hotter, the planets don't get to change the star just because it's negative for them. The star just IS, the planets caught in its orbit must obey the laws dictated by that star, or be consumed by the fire. Never forget Max, you are not the center of this solar system, you don't make the rules, you live or die by them.

[@Stop_Gooning]

God damned heathens and their "Heliocentric" view of the universe! I can look up and SEE that the sun is moving!

[@HyperDangerousThing]

It reminds me of weirdly of a situation I‘ve been in. Had a girl who I accused of cheating with valid reasons. But instead of validating my concerns she was dismissing my points and how it made me feel disappointed. I feel like Mr girl was expecting that Destiny would put his importance more over that mods decision. And to work a way out to unban him, since his declaration of war was misinterpreted as something lethal while it was just a dramatic way to express that he wanted to criticize his subreddit.

[@shedshitley]

17:49 history check for the handful of nerds that are interested: the werhmacht's initial (and ultimately very limited) success in the war happened _in spite of_ hitler's constant, idiotic micromanagement of his generals, which led to some of the most colossal disasters in the history of human warfare (most notably stalingrad and the ardennes offensive) and, finally, to the complete collapse of the german war machine from early '42 onwards. there's a reason so many of his officers tried to assassinate him and it wasn't because they were opposed to nazism.

[@ronswanson1410]

Max - YOU ARE NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THIS STORY. There is a world happening around you and you ignore everything the moment you don’t get your way.

[@eben7248]

Destiny criticises people for misusing the term "gaslighting," yet here he says mrgirl is gaslighting him and his justification for this claim is that mrgirl is saying something that's not true. Gaslighting isn't just saying something that's not true, even intentionally. Gaslighting isn't the same as lying. Gaslighting is repeatedly and continually *using* lies and dishonesty in order to make someone question their own mental state or ability to perceive reality. It hardly ever applies to a situation where there are multiple interpretations of events, as you wouldn't question your sanity just from being convinced you were wrong about a nuanced and difficult issue.

[@Hsjfbxgakehucishu]

Destiny would permaban himself if he was at all consistent, but hes a hypocritical dummy with no self awareness.

[@vibez2806]

gaslighting - manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity. it dont have to be repeatedly.

[@eben7248]

@@vibez2806 Please tell me how you could use one lie to make someone doubt their own sanity.

[@vibez2806]

@@eben7248 you actually didnt say x, you are just remembering wrong or you are going crazy.

[@eben7248]

@@vibez2806 Saying this once wouldn't do any damage, and depending on the situation could be true. In order to gaslight someone, you would have to repeat or continue the lie such that the other person genuinely begins doubting their sanity. I should have been clearer that it doesn't have to be multiple different lies; it could also be multiple iterations of the same lie.

[@davidlindsay6450]

LMAO when he said deadbeat dadism that cracked me up

[@321erup123]

I'll be the lone voice of saying I'm on Max's side but the optics are horrible. And I don't think Destiny is wrong, he has a way of running the sub and this is a criticism of it's shortcomings. One thing I admire about destiny is that he's ALWAYS focused on the argument and I've noticed his community does this less frequently. If someone is disliked nothing matters anymore.

[@Stop_Gooning]

Popular opinion here: MrCreep fans need to be investigated by the FBI.

[@321erup123]

@@Stop_Gooning that's not really progressing the argument why would you post this?

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@321erup123 Because I think you need to be investigated by the FBI. Anybody who openly calls themself a fan of the Cuties Creep is ALSO a fucking creep.

[@321erup123]

@@Stop_Gooning chill, jeez.. Why do you watch Destiny if you can't have a simple back and worth.

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@321erup123 Is this NOT a simple back and forth?

[@StillElias]

Mr girl "I declare war" "Why did I get banned?"

[@BD-vr5lu]

I’m glad MrGirl himself confronted Destiny to let him know Destiny is a Girl name

[@godsstrongestschizo]

you people are the worst

[@CHUK.PATRICK]

So can we say SNEAKO is sanitising NICK FUENTES?

[@earhearthush-up5549]

Absolutely

[@markharrison6498]

Are they dating now?

[@bigzclipz5104]

@@markharrison6498 don’t be mad you can’t get some gay lover

[@markharrison6498]

@@bigzclipz5104 so that’s a yes then? Good for Nick

[@tomate8942]

I mean just look at the no jumper interview, Sneako sucking up to nick on every single topic. Total npc behaviour coming from the matrix bot guy.

[@nothde9865]

I have never cared enough to try to understand this Mrgirl character, who is he to give demands and confront Destiny on anything?

[@he.5865]

This argument can be used to justify him doing literally anything. As long as you accept that there are things that actions can be evaluated for their goodness your point is stupid.

[@mambamentality5875]

@@he.5865 you comment like Mr. Girl. You make a twisted point than ad an ad hominem. That's not how adult humans communicate.. unless they want everyone to hate them.

[@nothde9865]

@@he.5865 Doing what? Cops are accountable for crimes in this world. Your entire point sounds beyond moronic.

[@dillylongwaves]

He is Destiny's friend

[@he.5865]

@@mambamentality5875 I think mrgirl uses an exceptionally small amount of ad hominem because I think he places an exceptionally high amount of value on not causing excessive harm. I agree with your second point for real life but online, if I want to get any responses they're important. I agree that what I'm doing may make the person feel bad. Although doing this most likely causes a larger amount of harm to the other person than the benefit I get, I place very little value on the feelings of other random people online that I will never meet. Hence why I'm fine being mean to people online but would not be mean to people in real life (I place value on the feelings of the people I know - not the feelings of people in general). My actions do not seem like stuff that mrgirl does, more analogous to destiny's actions but I own what I'm doing.

[@sanjicook08]

We have to cut mr girl out at this point. "I still love you" and "you are abusive" I've seen this movie before.

[@JackDaniels-ru2xy]

Destiny sure likes saying "blah blah blah." I can't unsee it now.

[@mikedunn7293]

don't demand what you can't take by force

[@mharris4264]

One thing I got from the Destiny vs Mr.Girl debate over Nick Fuentes was that Destiny thinks that certain words have been over used and hold "no real value/meaning". I would agree that word shouldn't be over/misused but I would argue that these words still have meaning. I might not know what a fascist is but that's cause I never looked up the word. However I do know what a racist is and we can flesh out whether or not a person is. I noticed though that Destiny doesn't hold this standard with the word/phrase "woke". Which for me as a Black African American meant something very different from how people in politics use It. Even during his college debates he was asked what he meant by woke showing that it doesn't even have a solid foundation kinda like his name cause it's for girls.

[@Stop_Gooning]

85% of people are dumb, deaf and blind. Sheep being led to the slaughter. 10% are AWAKE to the Truth of the World and choose to exploit it for personal gain. The remaining 5% are the Poor Righteous Teachers and the True Kings of this Earth. Guessing something like that?

[@AppalachianLumberjack]

Hi destiny I doubt you will see this but I grew up in the Bible belt north Carolina in a Christian family and I've been what most people would probably consider far right for a while now but since I've found your content from ur collab w sneako tate and Fuentes an tho I still fall further right then you, your well articulated arguments have given me new perspective on alot of the right wing rhetoric I have absorbed that only a very articulated intelligent individual could make me seriously consider thanks 💔 bro

[@JPepperL]

I was in your position about 6 years ago. Before I knew it I was center left and watching destiny videos for hours at a time. It's a slippery slope

[@andylofi4448]

You did everything you’re saying to yourself, Max.

[@normalcitizen]

MrGirl is a master complainer, bro legit got on the stream just to complain about how he got banned and how he got treated and kept saying shit like "well I don't want to participate in a community like this." THEN DONT BOZO. Plus he's weird af and acts creepy as hell

[@SpikeJet2736]

mrgirl "I don't want a healthy relationship" Oh, we know but thanks for confirming it

[@adamweishaupt8430]

Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland, a book that illustrates very clearly how nornal human beings can be pushed under certain circumstances to commit the worst atrocities. Humanizing nazis is important for our understanding of human nature.

[@deebo429__]

Is destiny FINALLY realizing he should have never brought Mr girl onto his platform? I've never understood the fascination Steve has had with Max since day one.

[@daywaytv]

Destiny should really decides how he wants to go from here. MrGirls really seems to wanna die the online-martyr-death and make Destiny the last guy to blame on. I don't think this behaviour will stop anytime soon, since MrGirls head seems to be so much in his own narrative that he is incapable of realising any wrongs with his behaviour anymore. Also, it starts to really be annoying having this drama all day.

[@mycatphsyco]

I don’t think what Destiny said about No Jumper audience’s reception is accurate. The comments on the video are largely positive and those that weren’t positive were rather anodyne.

[@jord.an6123]

plus so much of nicks holocaust denial was edited out before being uploaded. And even if we were to concede that nick is actually just a centre-right edgy nerd, that doesn't take away from the damage of what he says. Humanising people whose entire shtick is the dehumanisation of marginalised minorities isnt some win like D thinks it is. I'm really sad to say but this is clearly the point of terminal velocity in destinys demise. It sucks. He's done good and had the potential to keep doing so.

[@jord.an6123]

@Active Measures Nick's worldview is horrible. Someone's worldview isnt magically above criticism or deserving of empathy simply because they earnestly hold it - Otherwise DGG would be fine with ML's etc Desinty has in no way (besides in that two on two debate YEARS ago) actually rebuked nicks toxic worldview. Plus, god i hated D's "oh its fine nick has stopped growing' argument - His growth has stopped because of his deplatforming, deplatforming that i'm not even sure D supports.

[@idontlikeyouyo]

"DIE-ATE-TY" LOL HE MISSPOKE! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL

[@cryptodazed9138]

8:46. This is such a good point- especially because he attracts a populist fanbase who are susceptible to that attitude

[@neosav7476]

Mrgirl continues to be platformed by destiny despite the fact that he literally contributes nothing except psychosis.

[@Nettamorphosis]

Destiny could have said “you made an ultimatum and I declined. Do what you will” … but he was trying to be nice.

[@kinggordon8762]

It's funny because I came in thinking Nick was some Nazi but now after you and SNEAKO brought him back into my orbit, I'm now an actual fan of his after seeing he wasn't as bad as I'd heard. Thanks Destiny

[@nickb1241]

you're either actually lying or actually 70 iq

[@kinggordon8762]

@@nickb1241 or I'm telling the truth and it triggers you so bad you have to suspend reality

[@nickb1241]

@@kinggordon8762 ah you're just 70 iq got it

[@IRepko]

Literally see your comments above saying other shit. You’re weird

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@kinggordon8762 Eh, Fuentes is just a gay dude convincing himself that he likes the closet.

[@aWildNelby]

As someone that didn’t/doesn’t see Nick as a deity, your lunch date with him def made him seem more outgoing and friendly than the news/rumors I’ve heard about him. He reminds me of some of my edgy friends. I do think that date was positive for both of you and it made me respect you even more than before. Then you lied about the Jordan Peterson debate.

[@JAHWH]

I was oblivious to the existence of Nick Fuentes besides what I've heard from him randomly and I had the idea he was some crazy alt-right Nazi, which may or may not be true but from that one video I saw with him and Destiny he seemed like a normal dude with some bad takes but nothing compared to what I had heard.

[@aWildNelby]

@@JAHWH I wouldn’t be surprised if he was just a super edgy guy that is continually pushed towards extreme ideology from the community he keeps. Not saying he is, but I could see that or him just pandering to the far right after seeing some sort of financial and/or social benefit. Can’t exactly just hop into his head and see his true views; He could just truly be a Nazi 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@net28573]

Now we'll never know if Jordan Peterson agrees that destiny is a girl's name.

[@bahl2242]

14:08 no jumpers audience hated it? Destiny is lying 😐. Haven’t seen a negative comment on nojumpers video, everyone seemed to enjoy the conversation and respected adam22 for having nick on.

[@lammymammy1]

😐my honest reaction to your comment

[@bahl2242]

@@lammymammy1 🤓 my honest reaction to your reply

[@mambamentality5875]

read their reddit from this past week

[@maxis2778]

@@bahl2242 all of those guys are gryopers

[@jarofpickles4057]

Yea, I just went to look briefly and literally every comment I see is positive on it. Maybe the live chat was toxic? Idk, not even sure if that was a stream.

[@tobiasreaper6784]

I must admit, I am fairly new here, and every time I watch one of these videos, it is like I have started watching a random show from its third season. Destiny needs a wiki of some sort I swear.

[@soggyslopster6800]

Nick is so much better than Destiny. Taller as well!

[@johngleeman8347]

I feel like they were both arguing about the symptom and not the cause. It's natural that MrGirl would be banned when stirring up shit in Destiny's community. Why was he doing that? I don't understand what he was "declaring war" about. If they could resolve that problem then everything else would fall into place easily enough.

[@Stop_Gooning]

Dawg, it's unhealthy to rationalize the actions of insane people. That's LITERAL "schizo posting" Dude says right around 35:35 that he doesn't even want a healthy relationship, he just wants to fight endlessly. The creep never had anything to offer aside from being target practice.

[@shekel8245]

Max needs to go. He is DEEPLY manipulative. Perma ban him, it'll be better for your relationship and the sub

[@aidanhearn4210]

@35:45 Max just comes out and says he doesn't want a healthy relationship and would rather fight and argue just have infinite conflict.

[@ThisVideoAnnoyedMe]

Destiny volume: 100% , MrGirl volume: 60%, whoever that other guy is volume: 30%

[@mikerollin4073]

The most appropriate question for Mr Girl is "Where are the bodies?"

[@jackiepuppet_5324]

nobody's safe until MrGirl is force fed puberty blockers

[@Vinzaf]

Poor Rosewrist. Spent his last stream just watching over this silly drama.

[@KinoTechUSA69]

The banning of "lost highway" was beyond based.

[@igormikuska4369]

25:29 I think he is open to criticism; from his moderators. I think does not believe his policies on moderating is perfect (does such a thing exist? Even if he knows what his perfect is, he might not know the aproach to it) and believes that having trusted people be able to moderate independantly can make it better.

[@bh1935]

“We gotta humanize the holocaust denier” no. We don’t destiny

[@silversalmon9909]

Ok, just know when you demonize them you're making more nazis. But go off

[@IRepko]

“We may have to take a break professionally” yeah right. Max will never not take advantage of the platform. It’s why he’s trying to hard to change the way destiny does shit so that it benefits him more.