I don't care that people are saying that it could be better, that's true of anything. The fact that you made a working toroid coil winder is impressive in and of itself.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT4 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely impressed that you actually made a perfectly working toroidal core winder! The inaccuracies you are getting result from the wood construction and a less effective wire guiding system, but the concept is there and is perfect! Well done! You can use printer pickup rollers for driving and guiding the toroid (with plastic washers to form flanges). In fact, you can disassemble an old inkjet printer (you probably can get it for free) and salvage most of the parts required (depending on the printer model: belts, rollers, optical sensors, stepper and drive motors, plus assorted hardware that may become handy in construction), to get yourself a winding machine that will cost you mainly the hours spent building it. Finally, I must congratulate you for making all the information freely available - it's relatively easy to find used toroidal transformers in scrapyards, that can be rewound to meet to personal needs - normally the primary can be used as it is (assuming primary is OK) and the secondary (outer windings) can be taken out and rewound with your machine. I suggest winding experimental 10 turns secondary and measure the voltage obtained, to get the volts per turn ratio (voltage measured divided by ten, normally much less than 1). If you need more accuracy, wind 100 turns, measure and divide by 100 and then multiply by the desired voltage to get the corresponding number of turns, not forgetting the wire gauge must be enough to handle the current (that depends also on the power the core can provide). I believe there are a lot of capable young people that would benefit from this - Transformers are expensive (shipping is expensive too, due to weight). Even a burnt transformer can be salvaged, because the core is normally OK, but then you need to wind both primary and secondary(ies). To calculate primary and secondary turns from scratch, I suggest a very good tutorial from Ampletos (kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2eqnIaEm6Z4rpY). It's in Spanish, but if you turn CC on, you can have subtitles in your language - technical information is normally understandable, even if YT translation gets a bit awkward. Long post, in the hope that this may help any enthusiasts out there :-)
@MrInnovative4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man for guidance 👍 really helpful
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT4 жыл бұрын
@@MrInnovative I'm glad you liked it! Your project deserves attention from young enthusiasts and the reuse of old printers and transformer cores is the way to go - recycling is the last resort!
@seanjackson55274 жыл бұрын
Ampletos's video is by far the most clear I've seen.
@enilenis4 жыл бұрын
I built an entire CNC-like woodburning machine entirely out of parts found in a photocopier. Steppers, rollers, gears - that thing had entire assembly. I have a video somewhere on my channel. Best part, there is a ton of office equipment that gets discarded as trash. They are a great source of parts for makeshift automation.
@alexstone6914 жыл бұрын
Where would you find a toroidal transformer at scrapyards? I need some but nobody sells the cores and the wound ones are really expensive
@WistrelChianti4 жыл бұрын
It's super impressive work! Something I wonder might help: Currently the wire comes from anywhere on the spool (depending on position of the unravel) to the toroid and this might be causing an innaccuracy in position. I'm thinking if you added a little guide ring in front of the spool (between the spool and the toroid) and thread the wire through it before attaching to the toroid, the wire will always be coming from the same spot. The distance between the spot the toroid will always be the same. I'm not basing this idea on anything more scientific than a vague recollection of a sewing machine feeding mechanism though. :D
@MrInnovative4 жыл бұрын
really thanks for your guide....
@the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's probably what caused most of the variability in the turns spacing
@conorstewart22142 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of a sewing machine when reading the first half of your comment, it is very very common to use a guide when dealing with anything on spools, even like fishing rods that take the line coming in and run it through a reciprocating guide to make sure it winds up neatly and evenly and without tangles.
@skeletor82503 жыл бұрын
This is a lot of work. This man had to do a lot of hands-on basic experimentation work, a lot of design work, a lot of re-design and refinement work, then a lot of work to make it instructional to others, and a lot of work of filming and post-production to make it easy to follow. I do not see a lot of women doing this kind of stuff. Hats off to his intellect and perseverance.
@mfratus20012 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us this! I watched a video about winding toroids but apparently only half-understood it. Thanks for making this great project!
@Andospar3 жыл бұрын
Magnificent!!! Innovative and nicely done. You asked if there were any suggestions for improvements and the only thing I could see was the need for a feed spool tensioner. But with this comment being a year after posting, Your keen insight has probably already addressed this. 👍
@KeithOlson4 жыл бұрын
That is a *VERY* useful build. For more placement accuracy, I suggest using a swinging arm that is anchored by the spool, with the wire going through an eyelet at the end, positioned as close to the toroid as possible without running into it.
@HyperspacePirate3 жыл бұрын
this is one of my favorite channels on youtube
@TopCat20214 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you would improve the machine but what you have created is VERY impressive, great job Sir!
@goldnoob61914 жыл бұрын
You should replace the DC motor with another stepper, the winding would be much more precise. Anyway this is a smart idea.
@nixxonnor4 жыл бұрын
Why do you need another stepper motor when you have the revolution counter? The problem seemed to be the jerky feeding of the toroid.
@AnalogDude_4 жыл бұрын
@@nixxonnor because you have 24 steps per revolution.
@theman32824 жыл бұрын
this construction/design is commonly found in Chinese made coil winder.
@recer_4 жыл бұрын
@@nixxonnor at 1:06 - 1:07 it appears to have skipped a tick.
@DavidKristiawan4 жыл бұрын
@@recer_ but the winding count increases even though the led isn't on at that time. I think this is because the camera shutter isn't synchronized with the rotation.
@seryj59111 ай бұрын
Приятно смотреть,смесь человеческого разума с механикой.
@GaryMcKinnonUFO4 жыл бұрын
Superlative work :) Being a long time coiler i can appreciate the thought, effort and time that went into designing and testing this lovely device. Liked and subbed.
@valterbaldideoliveira66093 жыл бұрын
CR
@anilverma3523 жыл бұрын
बहुत सुन्दर एक कम रूपयों में अच्छी मशीन और वर्किंग भी अच्छी पूरी मेहनत से बनी है काम भी अच्छा करेगी थैंक्यू
@suelynch4 жыл бұрын
Between 1978 to 1990 I worked for a company that made Toroids. We made them G.R.O.S.S. and Mu-metal. We also manufactured C cores, E cores and distributor gap.
@ctbully4 жыл бұрын
This really excellent work. If you were winding a toroidal transformer you would need to have automatic adjustment of the turning mechanism for the toroid as the thickness of the coil increases
@vandanamittal57542 жыл бұрын
This is very appreciable. Although there is always a scope of improvement as per available comments.The PCB shown is the only outsourced requirement, rest is self manageable.Also for thick wire size like swg12/13/14 we have to take the necessary measures of the parts. Again a very very useful successful attempt. All the very best.
@kschabowski4 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed by your work!!! For a device that has lots of manually created elements (by manually I also mean elements that you made with a lathe but not an automatic lathe) it works really smothly. Of course there are some things to fix to make it more reliable and consistent (irregular gaps between windings etc.) But still, amazing! Just subsribed your channel!
@ziksou43663 ай бұрын
Welcome, my dear brother. I hope you continue making a new machine because what you make is very wonderful
@gyrogearloose134510 ай бұрын
This is very cool. Quite amazing! I'm sure with this prototype running you can see where and how to refine it. Nice work Mr Innovative, keep on going!
@scaletownmodels4 жыл бұрын
It's a very nice build. I like it. I don't really see anything particularly wrong with it at this stage, just needs refining of individual elements like others have said. Improve the tracking of the moving parts, add in some better wire guidance. Personally I would probably 3d print an outer gear ring to replace the belt drive and have it engage a stepper for precise control and no slipping, but that's just me. I do like how on commercial models, the large drive ring is itself a giant spool that you prefill with enough wire to do the job.
@Delali2 жыл бұрын
What a thing of beauty. This build is really innovative. I love it. Simple but yet effective. We should collaborate on a build sometime my friend. Cheers!!
@RDTOYS4 жыл бұрын
Literally Brother You are Inventor .., I was seen your many Efforts for This Project.
@thatshowtheyare92273 жыл бұрын
Somebody need to give this man a million dollar so the next project can become reality
@albratgaming23483 жыл бұрын
Only suggestion I would make is to put some sort of tensioner on the wire coming from the coil... This will improve the winding by double. As it looked like there may have been slack wire winding that allowed it to drift sideways. Othwise a nice looking and well working machine !!
@joeabad59083 ай бұрын
A very nicely built project.. my hat is off to you, Sir!!
@conorstewart22142 жыл бұрын
It looks like you could do with some tension on the spool of wire, in the video it seems like it is wrapped round the coil pretty loosely. I think you maybe tried that with the spring, but some friction on the spool should be enough, also a wire guide is probably necessary to keep the spacing even.
@александргридин-у5у3 жыл бұрын
Отличное видео и идея, отличный токарный станок для реализации небольших задач! Спасибо
@M0UAW_IO834 жыл бұрын
Nice machine, I'd suggest the upright supports would be more stable if the shafts weren't so flexible, also replace the 12V motor with a second stepper
@ashokballatagi13184 жыл бұрын
Even after seeing the video we struggle to imagine the concept. God gift. Thanks
@davidlarson25342 жыл бұрын
Add a DTMF keyboard to input the numbers. It will simplify operation. Keep the rotary switch to access various modes, speed, pause, etc.
@ma-lakshmifabricator754911 ай бұрын
Overall, this is a highly informative and enjoyable video for anyone interested in engineering. It showcases your talent and expertise while providing valuable insights and inspiration to fellow enthusiasts. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to watching more of your content in the future 👍👍👍
@victoryfirst28783 жыл бұрын
YOu are hands down on clever person. Really enjoyed the show.
@oliverdobson51994 жыл бұрын
Excellent! As for improvements maybe make the ring opening larger (to add and remove large toroid coils more easily) - I’d have 2 splits rather than the 1 you have. Also your code can adjust for toroid diameter but can the machine? Maybe need to add adjustment in the 3 supports in/out. Also is your code adjusting for diameter increase of multiple winding layers? Does it auto stop of out of wire? Can the wire diameter be changed?
@H3xx994 жыл бұрын
For the toroidal core holder, I would have used a solution like the one you used for the main drive wheel, but with spring loaded gripping arms. I would use a spring on the drive wheel also, instead of a wing nut. As for the control system, I'd probably go with a raspberry pi instead of arduino, but that's purely personal preference. I love the simplicity of the interface. I'd probably try to add a linear coil winder also. Maybe using a linear screw to move the coil and wind smoothly.
@conorstewart22142 жыл бұрын
An arduino is much much more suitable here than a raspberry pi. Why would you need a pi for this? What benefits would it bring? This is something that needs precise timing and not much processing, essentially the opposite of what you get with a pi, lots of processing power and not a real time system. So microcontrollers are much more suitable for this application.
@douffinguessan1129 Жыл бұрын
Très belle initiative je vous remercie c'est Vraiment merveilleux.
@crankhandle2 жыл бұрын
Well done, impressive work making complex parts by hand! Imagine this guy let lose with a 3d printer
@grzegorzszymanowski40914 жыл бұрын
Hi, great work! I was do similar machine for standard transformers many years ago (over 30). Speed of my machine was lower to more control of the layering.
@mmaranta7853 жыл бұрын
I remember using a coil winding machine with #46 AWG magnet wire or something and 3000 turns on a 1 inch diameter toroid for a current sensor.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind4 жыл бұрын
Part of the time the core rollers are on windings and part of the time not leading to uneven winding. Possibly more rollors would help or a way to accurately monitor the degrees of rotation. Right now it's open loop.
@ottotater27872 жыл бұрын
This isn't just cool, this is leading towards JoeBob homie being able to invent their own electronic components at home instead of only in big fancy lab factories. This opens the door for more overlooked geniuses to be able to do their stuff.
@AltGrendel4 жыл бұрын
Much better with the sound off. Fascinating project, looks great.
@jpjp89644 жыл бұрын
Wonderful projects, building quality is superb, congratulations sir
@fgbhrl49074 жыл бұрын
Very cool. However, that wandering bandsaw.... Maybe the next project should be making some guides for it? Also, it would be cool to be able to wind much smaller toroids -- like 1" diameter or less. I think that would be difficult though.
@albertmagician86133 жыл бұрын
I guess that adding a wire guide at the supply coil would give a neater result, although it would not much affect the functionality of the induction.
@РоманФ-й9х3 жыл бұрын
Отлично! Спасибо за идеи! Хороший станочек! Прекрасная работа,золотые руки!
@gyggit3 жыл бұрын
вирус не поймал по его первой ссылке?
@jimboyfederigan65983 жыл бұрын
To the owner of this channel thanks this is the type of machine i was invisioning in my dreams thanks for making this happen
@big_o19523 жыл бұрын
One question why isn't this a product
@ag62864 жыл бұрын
3d printer would do wonders, also a V-score groove on the wheel and stepper motor for improved accuracy
@jimmyhoffmann49504 жыл бұрын
Better yet stepper motor with planetary gearbox
@ag62864 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyhoffmann4950 yeah, that belt setup will allow for a lot of slip potentially with thicker gauge wire
@montyhoutchens92174 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyhoffmann4950 6⁶
@fddecorationjepara60574 жыл бұрын
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@jimmyhoffmann49504 жыл бұрын
@@fddecorationjepara6057 good point
@Kholy.Himself3 жыл бұрын
Well, at the first glance, you need basic improvements that will make the coil more consistent. First you need to count half cycles so every side of the coil should have its own displacement. The inner side of the coil should have a min displacement of the wire diameter and this will guarantee that the wire will not overlap, then the outer displacement should be calculated using the the ratio of the outer diameter to the inner diameter of the coil multiplied by the displacement you set for the inner side. Then you should make some minor modifications in the way you calculate the displacement. You should get another stepper with the highest possible step count, that will give you more accuracy if you counted quarter steps or even less. Then you calculate the displacement for each step or quarter step using the inner diameter of the coil. That will give you a seamlessly consistent and homogeneous coil. It's also good to start the first round at the inner part of the coil and always use that position as the starting position to get accurate changes with each iteration. Last, try to start the DC motor with a slow speed, then you can keep the speedometer controlling the speed while it's rolling untill you can determine the maximum stable speed of rolling. Keep in mind that the optimal speed will ever change whenever you've changed the coil's diameter. Have fun dude 😎👏
@martinmengh4 жыл бұрын
nice lathe. I've got one too. It's the first time I've seen the wood working attachment actually used on this lathe.
@haraldpettersen36494 жыл бұрын
A small ingenious machine made of a few pieces of plywood, cheap ball bearings and a few pieces of plastic. Buying such a machine at the store costs more than your car :)
@rafaelx.4183 жыл бұрын
Hello, it is amazing design, thank you and congratulations, I subscribed. One point about use of plywood for precision projects, try using hardwood plywood, it will machine smoother, parts will be more rigid and will keep your winding tolerances lower. Also do not leave precision wooden projects unsealed, hygroscopic expansion of plywood panel in XY dimension is 0.2mm/m for each 1% RH and thickness as much as 1mm/m per 1% RH.
@invisiblealex0074 жыл бұрын
that's incredible and finally useful device on Arduino)))) and it is not a toy. Great job and tech idea
@DerrickJolicoeur4 жыл бұрын
Looks like it could benefit from something to align the wire coming off the spool to make the winding more consistent, but this is a great idea none the less
@kevinbyrne45384 жыл бұрын
VERY impressive ! This project must have required Much time and effort. Congratulations.
@davidcerva98644 жыл бұрын
That was surprisingly satisfying to watch. Great job :)
@electronic79794 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. I watched every second with pleasure.
@MrInnovative4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@enki_2204 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2GslX2reZianc0
@levimadsen52243 жыл бұрын
Before cutting the wheel, you should plane it so that it's absolutely flat. Could help reduce the wobble.
@MikeHillMusic4 жыл бұрын
Had to turn off due to the music. However, I love the project. Truly impressive! But.. please consider ditching the music. 👍🏼
@Kayram14 жыл бұрын
Awesome build. Appreciate your effort. Lot of effort must have be put to make this. 👍👍 If you were to rebuild what changes would you make ? As I would like to build one like this.
@PeteVanDemark Жыл бұрын
You made a beautiful thing. Very nicely done!
@KimMoth4 жыл бұрын
I bet the uneven windings are mostly down to the fact the wire doesn't go through a guide after coming off the spool. The way the windings are bunched and spaced in a sort of repeating pattern probably reflects the angle the spool gave it as it unwound.
@likewisepro3 жыл бұрын
Mr Innovative, is the user capable of introducing the desired inductance? Input parameters would be toroid diameters, wire copper size. Then the system would compute the needed turns. Just an idea.
@nivaldoguardiano74444 жыл бұрын
Boa tarde Mr Innovative, gostei muito desse projeto da Máquina Enrolamento de Toroidal, você tem o esquema da PCI onde vai os Componentes CIs, as Placas dos Motores e Arduino Nano, seria o Desenhos da PCI em Silk Screen para eu realizar o projeto para meu uso... Desde já grato... Fico no aguardo.
@alejandrodelabarra28384 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno!! Todo de madera y con rodamientos, como me gusta a mí. Un espectáculo. Thanks for sharing your knowledge wiith us!!!!!
@kingmasterlord4 жыл бұрын
I see several improvements I can make for example a guide arm for the wire(more even spacing and all that), definitely going to print one of these when I get a 3d printer
@s.sradon97823 жыл бұрын
replace all wooden parts with plastic or metal, use softer and thicker rubber for plastic rollers & calibrate the machine so the wire being wound onto the core has more tension, some sort of wire guide & tensioner would be useful here.
@FloetschMaster3 жыл бұрын
supe rtnice i like it also the wooden stuff, alkl others would have used 3d printers xD - but for wehat do you use a toroid?
@rollbot Жыл бұрын
very cool machine only question is what function would a coil like this have?
@ashokballatagi13184 жыл бұрын
Great engineering job. Not all can not do. Only high knowledge person can do. Thanks for edua
@en2oh3 жыл бұрын
Great project! any thoughts on a ring that holds the wire on the outside? Having that wire bobbin really creates problems in terms of ID of the toroid core. Thanks Doug
@carloshackl Жыл бұрын
Genial te felicito, soy de Argentina podrías darme toda la información para fabricar esta maquina? un abrazo y éxitos.
@jamest.50016 ай бұрын
It eould be s good addition to getba few small endmills you can put in the drill. To do plunge cuts in metal, and slow gentile side cuts in woods and plastics Maybe some small cuts in aluminum a 1/4" - 6mm and maybe 12mm- 1/2" and some in-between. Possibly make adapters to allow larger end mills to be used. Maybe an adapter that allows a 3"-4" lathe chuck to fit a drill, then end Mills will fit, and many other things , if you ho that far, just as well build a tilt lathe /mill. A lathe that can double as a mill. It would be small but handy. Allow work about 3"x12" roughly possibly 6" x12" tibe milled s cross slide and mill vise, about anything could be built then, (id use it to build a larger lathe/mill 😜 6"-8" chuck,36" travel/bed)
@edilbertomendoza53594 жыл бұрын
Good job! Getting stability or robust is only a little step. Congratulations. You gave me a lot of ideas. Really you did.
@maheshpatel20053 жыл бұрын
Very impressive.. What are the tools required in lab to make machine parts at home? Will you please list down. I see lathe machine as primary component.
@cristianilie88573 жыл бұрын
Great engineering work! Thanks for sharing this with us! Will start to buil it soon! Thanks again
@The_Unobtainium2 жыл бұрын
I heard as well that painted plywoods magnetic permeability and its saturation point is much higher than the one you can find in usual ferrite cores:D
@EmmittBrownBTTF14 жыл бұрын
Might better to turn your latch around so centrifugal inertia will push it closed, a detent pin would also hold the securely. Wouldn't hurt to put a hinge in the ring, so larger toroids can be inserted.
@shyleshsrinivasan50924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this build ! Well made !
@marcelonepomuceno39304 жыл бұрын
SENSACIONAL MEU AMIGO! PARABENS!
@jujjuj76762 жыл бұрын
Great job but why wood and not more 3d printed parts would they not be smoother and wear less?
@ITpanda4 жыл бұрын
A means of pausing system on wire running out would be nice. So your not guessing on wether or not you have enough for project or so you could finish wire on spool and attach additional so to avoid additional waste.
@The-Master-of-None2 жыл бұрын
Please teach us how to make a transformer winder using EI laminations. Thanks so much. Great content as always!
@Reno_Slim4 жыл бұрын
I had to hand wind torridial transformers for proprietary power supplies. A machine to help out would have been nice.
@vladv84344 жыл бұрын
Больно смотреть сколько мучений без 3D принтера.
@serzgregory91243 жыл бұрын
А откуда взялся желтенький боксик? Не из-под 3D?
@jays123452 жыл бұрын
Im impressed. It is quite amazing.. Good job
@Todestelzer4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Consider buying a 3d Printer as well.
@ftwproject6584 жыл бұрын
Great one! Subscribed. I think this design is scalable to a larger version, no?
@klave85114 жыл бұрын
You can be proud of this achievement! Well done, except for the flashing LED which looks like a big fat electrical spark to me and had me backing away from my screen 😉
@MrInnovative4 жыл бұрын
I have burned that sensor off camera so I changed the smd IC meanwhile unfortunately LED trace also get removed so I added external LED to it..
@SteveCircuits2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Something that could be useful: Forward and Reverse! If you add a guide to help improve the wire positioning, this could let the user fine tune the position accuracy by winding or unwinding till it's just right.
@davey2k124 жыл бұрын
That's spot on lol Need to make smaller one cud be bobbin type and moves coil out the way be harder to make tho ...that needs a number pad with +100 button lol
@anhelamigo88662 жыл бұрын
А мне нравится идея, меня натолкнуло это на следующею мысль, а если у металла искателя так намотать катушку на фиритовый диск будет ли она работать?
@dardotoscano93193 жыл бұрын
Amazing machine, you are a genious!, congratulations
@andreykrasehin28233 жыл бұрын
особенно мне *понравилась* пайка проводов к электромотору
@KhawjaAziz2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning work. Thanks for sharing.. Kudos
@pietromastroleo83314 жыл бұрын
Ottima realizzazione, componenti👍👍👍
@ahmetizmir10813 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Very good design and work.
@arturdias5329 Жыл бұрын
De Lisboa 👍👍👏👏 Parabéns...
@samuel_towle4 жыл бұрын
I agree that your toroidal coil winding machine makes for a good demonstration. However, unless you are making production runs, I would have to question the practicality of the build. I doubt there is enough tension to wind wire thicker than 22 to 24 gauge. Given the size of the shuttle and ring, small internal diameter cores are out of the question. You could reduce the size of the ring and shuttle by using the ring as wire storage and reversing the ring to load wire onto it. A metal ring could reduce size further, but also be harder to drive. Back in the late 1980's I wound and tested prototype coils and transformers. One of the designs required 500 turns of 40 gauge wire on a torroid about 20 mm O.D. I used a 6" wooden handle for a Q-tip with a notch at each end as a wire shuttle. Winding 5 of these units took about 2.5 hours.
@MrInnovative4 жыл бұрын
smaller toriod possibility will be consider in next upgrade.
@ivancho5854 Жыл бұрын
Using the ring itself for wire storage is interesting, though the ring would have to be mechanically more complex. Also a correction to the software may be required depending on the design. All the best.