Judy Garland and the Valley of the Hoo-ha

[@AshtonGarland]

Please keep on doing videos like this, it’s so wonderfully done. Judy fans everywhere appreciates them 💜

[@tyce]

Agreed

[@steveweinstein3222]

What a great job of getting all this footage together! I salute you, sir.

[@dodger2829]

"'Without a cigarette and a blindfold?" Always sharp and funny. She looked smashing in her costume screen test.

[@lc6067]

So great seeing a new Judy video from you Jaycub! Thoroughly enjoyable and as always so well done! Thank you. Sweet, funny, marvelous Judy. ❤

[@MrJyacub]

Thank you so much!

[@kavalkid1]

WOW!! The song that got away 22:00 here documented and displayed for all! What a treasure, what a gift! Thank you for this wonderful work!

[@bernardotiaba7367]

God bless Miss Judy, she looks like she had a buzz while filming the wardrobe tests.

[@charliechilders6630]

She was at this time, homeless and penniless. Here she is so very thrilled, excited and grateful, about feeling appreciated, wanted, and now starring in a major motion picture! This was going to be her great major comeback! Judy was on her best behavior and was incomplete control of herself determined to be a success. When ever watching this test, and seeing how very happy and thrilled she is, this always makes me so very sad. From the very beginning, she was considered a joke and the director never ever respected her or gave her a chance! She was now discarded by the industry making this the very beginning of the end of Judy Garland. This totally destroyed her confidence and self-worth. 😥

[@MrLicoly]

Amazing research and editing. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@glenconmc]

Thank you for putting this together, it is fantastic.

[@theatreorganman]

A document of great importance about THE lady of importance!

[@EagleRockers]

This was marvelous, simply marvelous!

[@stevers62]

Great job, as always, Jaycub! Thanks for creating and sharing!

[@josephmarzullo4416]

Thank you for posting. The clarity of the wardrobe tests is thrilling.

[@katebonham7097]

JUDY." pardon me but I do get the giggles" ME. "me too Judy me too".🤣🤣🤣

[@judygarlandforever]

Thank you for all of this!

[@mwj5368]

I have two old reel to reels Wayne gave my sister of them talking on the phone too. I think Judy called him her number one fan. Thank you for creating this fine video!

[@lorihoop3831]

I just love Judy. It's so sad what Hollywood did to her.

[@briandiaz2234]

Well done.. I look forward to watching all your past, and future work. 💛💛👍⭐

[@michelinelalonde2217]

“It always makes me look like I’m written about, anyway.” LOL!!!

[@bruw5640]

What a treat Jaycub. I had never heard that particular phone conversation between Judy and Wayne. You are so talented! I always love your work. THANK YOU!!

[@bernardotiaba7367]

Oh God!! I just caught what the Director of the wardrobe test asks her after she seems a tad unsteady on her feet then has a giggle, he was suggesting she have coffee which she politely refuses. Very telling. Poor Judy.

[@michelinelalonde2217]

Hmm… I hadn’t considered it thwt way. Interesting perspective.

[@gabe-po9yi]

Ah, okay, I was wondering why she seemed curt. Polite, but curt.

[@TeamJRob]

She was drunk, yes, and the director who sounds irritated was suggesting you need to sober up. She couldn't sober up.

[@gabe-po9yi]

@@TeamJRob Yeah, he was taking a dig at her to humiliate her. So sad she got pushed around by people because of her addiction issue, and she’d rarely stand up for herself. I love the story, though, of about the only time she ever did, when she hauled off and almost decked this a’hole concert promoter with a left to the jaw. (Unfortunately, mealy-mouse Mark Herron was with her at the time and not Sid Luft.)

[@robertgold3868]

What a terrific compilation of audio and film you put together. I am amazed how clear and sharp certain sections of each of Judy's four costumes were created. Wayne Martin shouldn't have secretly recorded their phone conversations without Judy's knowledge of his doing so, but thank goodness he did. We are able to understand more from Judy herself. As for Judy's song, I actually like "I'll Plant My Own Tree." The song she preferred "Get Off Looking Good" to my ears is wordy and strident. True, she sang it acapella, but I have never liked it. As for the book, I love it, and I have read it several times. Judy, as wonderful as she was, was not right for the role at that point in her life. In 1967, she was too thin and fragile. If they had made it when she looked stronger and sturdier as she appeared in the 1963 film I Could Go on Singing, she would have been great. Judy wanted to get fired since she felt the script was dirty and her character was not a character Judy wanted to portray. However, she was a magnificent actress, and she could have pulled it off if she really wanted to, despite being so tiny and thin and fragile.

[@pattibrooks1907]

I love Judy and this video

[@vitameatavegamin4236]

Jaycub, Thanks ever so much for this beautiful piece of work!

[@chrisn7259]

This is very well done, thank you for creating it. From her press conference to her firing, this was such a miserable episode in Judy's career, and she was all wrong for the Helen Lawson role.

[@NickyMay16]

She was not wrong for the role. Give her some credit as an actress.

[@hostesshue]

Love this. By the way the Patty Duke interview was from my event at the Castro Theatre in San Francisco.

[@hostesshue]

Which btw should be credited.

[@allenjones3130]

Rest in peace, Judy & Patty.

[@hanschristianbrando5588]

Jacqueline Susann should have played Helen Lawson (and countered with a crack about "The Wizard of Hoo-ha"). Or Dolores Gray. Or just cut to the chase and got Merman. UPDATE! Not too long ago I found a KZbin clip of Lena Horne singing "I'll Plant My Own Tree," exactly as it should be sung. There was Helen Lawson!

[@akrenwinkle]

It's still up, Lena did her best for the awful song on "The Dean Martin Show." Lena was a favorite of Dean and every TV host, particularly in the 50s and 60s. According to Liza, Judy hadn't read "Valley of the Dolls" and didn't know that she was expected to play crude, snarling Helen Lawson, who was really crude, snarling Ethel Merman. Once given the script, Judy absolutely refused to act as the role demanded. Director Mark Robson tried a few takes, then gave up. Prior to that, Judy was offered $75,000 for very little work, was given 20 Century's best dressing room equipped with a pool table. Everyone at the studio- even the ancient moguls who knew Judy from "Pigskin Parade" in 1937, showed up to show love and support. Judy was sky-high off Ritalin from the beginning, and spread the story- repeated by Patty Duke- that the director refused to let Judy act in front of a camera, something that made absolutely no sense, but when Judy said something, it was- and is- never questioned.

[@lindaeasley5606]

Speaking of Judy and pills ,it reminds me of an old episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 when they were making fun of a short film hyping everything wonderful about Puerto Rico. When the film focused on their manufacturing of pharmaceutical drugs , one co host quipped " they went out of business when Judy Garland died"

[@vanessamarino6388]

That is in such bad taste only someone who has really lived in “the valley of the hoo-ha” has the right to laugh at such a sad thing I have the experience to talk and I found the joke sick

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@vanessamarino6388 i've battled addiction all my adult life - i think the jokes funny. addiction destroys so much of the human condition i thank God i can still laugh at anything.

[@babsfocker7751]

She is so beautiful and nice. She looks like a professional model or something

[@bingovegas4867]

SAD...SHE ONLY HAD 7 MONTHS TO LIVE AFTER THAT APPEARANCE AT BACK BAY IN BOSTON.

[@shaunreilly774]

Jaycub, great job, as usual!

[@theglamourisgone5669]

God Bless Judy

[@shaunreilly774]

Why do so many people in the comment's fields say she was drunk filming the costume tests? She looks great and doesn't seem drunk, but just having a great time. Were any of you there on the soundstage? If not, keep your speculations to yourselves.

[@jl3322]

I think she had a seconal, no booze,which relaxes you with s real feel good feeling-thus the laugh.

[@medavog]

amazing video jay.cubby daughling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@IanThaddiam]

That's an excellent encapsulation of the whole tawdry fiasco. Well done.

[@kumada84]

This was war so good 🥲

[@glenconmc]

Bless Judy, little did she know.

[@Itstonytime77]

I love how I’m the game show she kind of made a joke about herself saying she was the only one in the book that doesn’t take pills

[@Tecobelli]

❤

[@allenbrady8071]

I wish she had not been fired. The Film would have been even better

[@mike48877]

I've always believed that Judy was both hired and fired for publicity. Hired, because the Neeley character was based on her. And, if she couldn't function, the firing would get another ton of publicity. They knew what they were getting into with her. Poor Judy, used again!

[@zzzbbbooo]

She fired because she didn't turn up and was under the influence when she did.

[@Amber-nx3iz]

They never fired John Wayne and he was drunk on every set. They would stop production so he could get his fix. Wonder how many movies he was fired for? It’s a shame Judy was so abused and exploited. Beautiful talent and artist.

[@mike48877]

@zzzbbbooo According to Patty Duke, who was in the movie, they didn't call for Judy until LATE IN THE DAY. By that time she had plenty of time to get sloshed on whatever she was taking. They knew she was a morning person, and made no effort to accommodate her. Their bad. I still say it was for publicity.

[@Amber-nx3iz]

Patty Duke also said they fed her wine on set. In my opinion they were trying to exploit her and lead her to failure. Her vulnerabilities and weaknesses were known through the press. She was working on a book prior to death. It’s audio in her words. You can find it. She was planning to exploit everyone her words. My opinion she was done in like Whitney Houston. It’s just my opinion.

[@Pdjohnners]

The phone call is heartbreaking.

[@glenconmc]

Fantastic recording by Wayne, I wonder if he was there for any of it? Maybe if he was there she could have got through it?

[@vanessamarino6388]

NO

[@haintedhouse2990]

if Judy ever saw the finished result of Valley of the Dolls she was probably thankful for getting fired.

[@kathleendobens6648]

She seemed a little under the influence. But she should have been able to retire. Not do more work and being alone. Glad she found happiness the last days of her life.

[@JanMike9]

It would have been heartbreaking to see Patty Duke rip that wig off Judy's head, and I'm glad such a thing was never committed to film. On the other hand, it would have been thrilling to see Judy play a woman as mean and desperate as Helen Lawson. I bet Judy would have loved playing a bad girl in movies, and I believe her performance would have been bone-chilling if given the chance.

[@Spiderman7Bob7]

They should have kept Judy Garland in the film "Valley of the Dolls" instead of firing her. They replaced Judy with Susan Hayward and dubbed her singing voice with Margaret Whiting. Susan Hayward can sing as she proved in "I'll Cry Tomorrow". Does that make sence ? And since Judy already recorded the song for the film before she was let go, why didn't they use her recording instead of using Margaret Whiting's voice "

[@steveweinstein3222]

She was, to say the least, unreliable. She was costing the studio A LOT of money because she didn't appear on the set. Susan Hayward was the opposite. She appeared on time, knew her lines and her marks. It took her only five days to do all her scenes.

[@lbputzer]

There's no way they could've used Judy's recording for Hayward to lip synch instead of Whiting. It would've been surrealistically cruel since Judy's voice was iconic and instantly recognizable, not to mention a recipe for litigation on Garland's part. Also, the reason both Hayward's & Duke's voices (both of which could carry a tune) were dubbed is that the Helen & Neely roles were supposed to be extraordinarily talented vocal performers---not just "average" like the real-life voices of the actresses who portrayed them.

[@robertgold3868]

@@lbputzer Susan could sing as shown in I'll Cry Tomorrow. Patty, despite having several successful albums, couldn't sing a note. They cut each song together when she hit a right note here and there.

[@haintedhouse2990]

after seeing how unintentionally hilarious the film is Judy was probably glad to be rid of it.

[@johnpickford4222]

@Spiderman7Bob7: Susan DID NOT do her own singing in I’LL CRY TOMORROW. The studio actually used Lillian Roth’s voice.

[@user.Chrissyzaurus]

Bless her she looked so fragile in the interview at the beginning Hollywood is a shit place for most

[@grai]

why was that guy taping private phone conversations?

[@michelinelalonde2217]

Because he was slimy.

[@grai]

what a *traitor* There was this creep pretending to chat as a friend while taping the whole thing Imagine how hurt she would have been by that

[@robertgold3868]

Wayne Martin was a big fan and Judy memorabilia collector at the time.

[@grai]

@@robertgold3868 I would be very surprised if Judy Garland knew she was being taped Being a fan doesn't mean you're exempt from observing basic morals and ethics *Or that you're not on the make* If he loved her so much he would have asked her permission

[@SaxonC]

Wayne Martin used her recorded her without her knowing.

[@antoniosuau8729]

JUDY GARLAND MEDIA UN METRO Y MEDIO PERO MERECÍA MEDIR DOS METROS Y MEDIO. COMO ACTRIZ, CANTANTE Y COMO M A D R E

[@themermaidstale5008]

Judy Garland was a tremendous talent. Imo, Susan Hayward was exactly the right casting for the role of Helen. Judy was too tiny and frail to have been believable as Ethel M … I mean Helen Lawson. I was a teen when the book and the movie came out. Loved both of them. So glad I grew up in that particular era. “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.” A Tale of Two Cities Charles Dickens

[@Itstonytime77]

Can you imagine Judy doing the fight in the bathroom? That would NEVER have worked it was way to physical and she may have been even tinier that Patti Duke.

[@lbputzer]

@@Itstonytime77 Absolutely. Patty has frequently told the story that Susan Hayward (even though she was physically more imposing than Duke) lost her footing during one of the takes of that scene, and was pushed to the ground. Patty didn't do it intentionally, but Hayward perceived it that way. It created tension between them from that point forward. Judy would've shattered like glass.

[@NickyMay16]

Small women can pack a punch. Don't be so literal.

[@willyboy6126]

Judy is everything...and so is her smile & wit! 🥰 ...Glad she never made that awful movie!

[@zzzbbbooo]

Susan Hayward was far better in it than Judy would have been. Judy had the voice but Susan had that hard edge necessary for the character.

[@ceasarandrepont5331]

I can tell she was tired and burned out with the business but could not give in or up.

[@moorlock2003]

Garland was miscast from the outset. Susan Heyward was perfect for the role.

[@jamessheridan4306]

Though I think she would have been great in the part, I doubt whether her presence in VOTD would have made it a better picture. Judy Garland at her worst was way too good for that trash.

[@hudsony777]

Good thing she didn't do it. Poor Susan Hayward, too.

[@johnflynn9619]

Garland was Magnificent. But, not right for The Valley of the Dolls. The song didn't fit her. RIP

[@NickyMay16]

Rubbish. She sang the song just fine.

[@Daviedootle83]

I still kinda wonder what she would've been like in the role. I will say that song about the tree and stuff is awful, so maybe she dodged a bullet.

[@soxfanization]

That song "It's My Tree?" What a horrible song. That's probably why she got herself fired. She is one of the greatest singers EVER. "I'll plant my own tree and watch it grow" WHAT A STUPID SONG. JUDY GARLAND? AN INSULT. At least Susan ,whom I also loved, didn't have to sing it. . .

[@vanessamarino6388]

What are you talking about ?!?!?! from what you just said YOU PROVED YOU NEVER SAW THE MOVIE…DID YOU EVEN WATCH THIS VIDEO??? Maybe just for a moment ? IM ASTOUNDED

[@vanessamarino6388]

Please take this only as me getting the record set straight for Judy ok now ATTENTION PLEASE ! A: THE NAME OF THE SONG IS “I’ll plant my own tree” ! B: Do you know what a analogy is ? 🤯 LOOK IT UP! Anyone with a room temperature IQ WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT SHE ISNT SINGING ABOUT F***ing GARDENING !!! C: THE SONG WAS APPROVED BY JUDY ! 🙄😑 D: YOU SAID HELEN DIDNT “HAVE” to sing it ummm could you please explain the one big musical number what was Helen doing on stage withe a audience and a musical sound comes from her mouth 😮 gasp well how bout dat it’s HELEN LAWSON SINGING THAT “poop”🤔😳🤮 SONG !!! (Dubbed as it were) THE “ POOP” BALLAD PLAYED ON !

[@vanessamarino6388]

AlsoSHE DIDNT GET HERSELF FIRED FOR SINGING A SONG THAT WAS GIVEN TO HER .. AND IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO HER VOICE IT WAS A DEMO VERSION again if you watched the video you would know what happened for her to be let go again no you neither watched the movie or video please know what your talking about before you start to spout

[@vanessamarino6388]

Please ignore the mentions of “poop” that was the comment on top of yours they blended go watch the movie it’s a classic then watch the video here have a blessed day cat lady

[@soxfanization]

@@vanessamarino6388 You didn't read the comment. That song was garbage and maybe, I said maybe, she didn't want to sing it.. Susan Hayward didn't sing it either. And she wasn't a singer, especially one of the best ever, she didn't give a shit. I have seen that movie more times than years you have lived. If YOU watched the movie you would know these things.

[@jl3322]

Horrible song. They let her keep half of the 50K they were paying her after she left. She was really thin which meant lots of Ritalin. Costumes looked good and we all know they let her keep the pantsuit. It was an awful movie they made, glad Judy did not get stuck with it being her last flick.

[@larrydelios7325]

The song itself is awful, and Judy isn’t in great vocal form . Still it’s a treasure for any Garland fan

[@tedwatson9929]

she had trouble talking about the role... any intelligent actress would have the same difficulty... the movie was a piece of poop. still, judy would have been great in the role.

[@vanessamarino6388]

How old are you 3 year old children say “Poop”

[@vanessamarino6388]

@Jaycubhoward Hello I LOVE YOUR CONTENT ITS THE BEST ONLINE!!!SAW THIS ONLINE FORA FEW DAYS THOUGHT I HAD SEEN IT ALL NO NEW CONTENT FOR ME … I heard other phone calls w this man but not tie one wish we heard the entire interview seemed cut off but I must say he seems very creepy in a way .. more stalker than fan I’m sure she wouldn’t like private calls recorded but he feels free ..sad how much everyone preyed on her Once again thank you and I send you all my blessing ,always- C.R.Withey

[@vanessamarino6388]

***C.R.WHITNEY