FIRST TIME WATCHING The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring | *REACTION/COMMENTARY* (2/2)

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[@Dron-to4uy]

The saddest part about Boromir's fall is that it happened not because he was selfish or power hungry, but because he was selfless. Ring used his desperation to protect others. It's the worst part of the power of the Ring: even most noble and pure desires and aspirations will be twisted and used against you

[@alternateuniverse422]

Very well said.

[@JPMadden]

He wanted to protect his people in Gondor, and his father had instructed Boromir to bring the One Ring to him.

[@Dron-to4uy]

@@JPMadden that's the film version, Boromir from the books came to decipher a prophecy he and his brother heard in a dream. And Denethor figures out Bane of Isildur is One ring long after Boromir's departure

[@JPMadden]

@@Dron-to4uyThanks. I actually just started reading the book again, after several years.

[@Spartansareawesome11]

yesssss

[@ManicScruffy]

As weird as it is on the surface Gimli asking for Galadriel's hair is significant. Firstly the relationship between dwarves and elves is generally not great as seen in the council meeting in Rivendell. Long story short, in the lore, her hair was coveted by a powerful elf king who wanted to use the hair to create some fantastical jewels (easy Tolkien nerds, trying to keep it brief) but she denied the king because she looked into his heart and his intentions were not pure. Wouldn't even give the king a single strand of hair. It was kind of a big deal at the time. Now this dwarf comes and asks for a strand of her hair not even knowing the significance of what he just asked for. He only wanted a memento of her beauty. She gave him three.

[@RoadDoug]

God! I love Tolkien!!

[@suneadelmollerup5376]

Should have asked for pubes

[@Brian-fv7dv]

and he asked 3 times (the elf king)

[@paulchavez3039]

One for each silmaril ❤

[@cgrimes34]

No hate or grief here. You summarized that with just enough context to make the point.

[@mubbles1066]

The Lord Of The Rings books are the inspiration for the whole fantasy genre in it’s entirety,books,movies,games,music…everything that’s fantasy related,all of it stemmed from this series.

[@acrefray]

The whole High fantasy genre. Fantasy in general was fathered some 8 decades or so earlier.

[@mubbles1066]

@@acrefray Yeah,I should’ve been clearer,everything that’s come since the 50’s pretty much has its roots in LoTR.

[@eirrenia]

@@mubbles1066 Not everything but, yes, Papa Tolkien casts a veeeerry long shadow.

[@prototypep4]

@@acrefray I mean... Beowulf exists... Le Morte D'Artur exists... Fantasy has been a thing for several centuries now. But yes, High/Epic fantasy is the brainchild of Tolkien. (very open to other epic/high fantasy book recommendations. I have the wheel of time series lined up next on my to read list)

[@rayous5480]

The knife that aragorn deflected towards the end was a real knife and the actor almost died when they accidentally threw it at his face, if it wasnt for his reflexes he would have tragically passed on set.

[@minywheats]

3 comments in, I wondered how long it would take. Next to see how long it takes til someone mentions the broken toe

[@rayous5480]

@@minywheats I was looking for someone saying it but didn't find anyone so I had to :P

[@similarrose5811]

Terry Pratchett said it best regarding Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy - “J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji.”

[@LordEriolTolkien]

I would use the imagery of a Tree or Forest for Tolkien, as he did himself in Leaf by Niggle, but Pratchett's point is valid

[@fanta4897]

Boromir shouldn't exactly be viewed as unlikable or weak, although many do so at first. He is actually strong, brave, etc. it's just that he's still the weakest of the group. Elves are more or less just perfect, Aragorn himself is more humble and much more experienced (and minor spoiler: isn't even fully human, the royal bloodline of Numenorians is a mix of humans and elves), dwarfs are just stubborn and although they can be mentaly manipulated, it's more of an annoyance to them and it takes long to corrupt them fully. And hobbits, are just hobbits. Because of their predispositions, outlook on life, etc. they're often extremelly hard to corrupt because there's little ambition, greed, etc. in them in the first place. Humans are by far the weakest of the bunch, and even though Boromir is very powerful, he still has some personal struggles which probably contributed to his corruption too, even if was corrupted only for a moment.

[@Dron-to4uy]

Slight correction: Aragorn and all his bloodline not only have human and elven but also Maya (essentially angelic) blood in them

[@Robbo-mx8nn]

I don’t think they dive that deep in the movies tho.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

As long as he watches the extended version of two towers it gives Boromir a lot more understanding

[@fanta4897]

@@Robbo-mx8nn No, they don't. I'm just trying to give more context.

[@garystern2294]

It's Boromir's ambition and desire to do good that the one ring uses to tempt and try to corrupt him.

[@allisongrinnell5107]

Tolkien basically invented the fantasy genre as we know it today. Once you’ve finished them you’ll find so many references to his work. In movies like Harry Potter, games like Dungeons & Dragons, and anything that has elves that aren’t tiny.

[@cjpolett2055]

Pretty sure fairy tales and mythology did that. T. H. White and C. S. Lewis were working on their fantasy series simultaneous to Tolkien, and Chaucer, Beowolf, the Arabian Nights and Gilgamesh predate them all. Shakespeare had a few in there too.

[@iDontShareMyData]

@@cjpolett2055 you took the words right out of my mouth.

[@Makkaru112]

@@cjpolett2055folklore often wasn’t just made up shite. It’s been turned into bobbles for our amusement. Watch “initiates of the flame.” By the end of it; the man’s flowing voice will make you rethink your existence in this world ❤

[@Makkaru112]

@@cjpolett2055Tolkien hated Shakespeare, and I’ll add to your list; Finnish Kalevala, Baghvagita from India, and so many more. The Welsh Mabinogion..

[@cjpolett2055]

@@Makkaru112 Let's add the Bible while we're at it

[@mikkelturtvig]

to answer your questions. Balin (a relative of Gimli) went to reclaim Moria some 50 years ago, after some time his group stopped sending messages back, so Gimli and his father Gloin went to Rivendell to ask Elrond what he thought they should do. Gimli does have a plan for the hairs, he is going to set them in crystals that their fairness may be preserved as an heirloom of his house.

[@Anti-NAFO]

🤓

[@sarahstardust]

Exactly. It's not clear in the movie, but the city looks ancient because it is. It was abandoned the first time and overrun with orcs a long time ago. Balin and his group is more recent, but it's still been years since they died.

[@JohnSmith-fm3pn]

Imagine explaining to your dwarven gf why you have a little shrine of another chicks hair in the house . A blonde elfs hair for that matter .

[@YeOldeLord]

The Ring Wraiths weren't chasing after them because they got majorly fucked up by the river magic and are regrouping as well as waiting for new beasts to ride

[@0elivin0]

I love the way you chose to explain that 😂

[@VadulTharys]

A very important thing to understand, when Legolas looks so confused about Gandalf dying is due to him know EXACTLY what Gandalf actually is. Gandalf is an eternal being, an angelic being, that should have been incapable of dying. Yet Legolas also knows the Balrog is a demonic being that is as powerful and likewise supposedly eternal, so it is the first time he has had to deal with mortality as an adult. His mother died when he has still a baby so it was not something he faced, and Legolas at this time is nearly 2000 years old. Galadriel is so old she was born before the Sun and Moon existed, at this point she is about 13k years old and she is not even the oldest of the Elves. The reason elves in Tolkien's world seem so aloof is that many have lived thousands or tens of thousands of years, so the lives of humans, dwarves, hobbits seem so fleeting and so they avoid any deep connections to them. Mortality is not something they never really face, this movie portrays their confusion as seeing death first hand so very well.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

Lol don’t worry about the pony, they aren’t on top the mountain they’re at the base, they had to come back down. (Also, in the books only Boromir thought to bring wood up the mountain to keep the hobbits warm, he was the only one thinking of their safety a lot of the time)

[@ronweber1402]

It's a shame that they didn't have enough time to flesh out how fundamentally good Boromir and Denethor are. The only way would have been to make a motion picture quality, multi season series. Like Fellowship would be a whole 10 episode season of 45 minute to one hour episodes.

[@Makkaru112]

@@ronweber1402 many have ways they could have kept what they had whilst still showing important things for Denethor ! It’s so sad out of all the heavy work PJ and team did for many years. All the scholars including Tom Shippey involved…

[@Mephistolomaniac]

one reason why some of the shots look surprisingly good for the time, was the approach the director took. most of the inside of moria as used in wide shots was actually miniature, not CGI. They built a lot of that stuff in miniature, and used CGI to composit the characters into the scene, as opposed to the other way around

[@Makkaru112]

And tons of bigatures.

[@jamespierce7232]

Yes, jump right into the next one. Imagine all of us who had to wait a year for the next movie.

[@angelastumbaugh2870]

Dude, LITERALLY EVERYTHING FANTASY came from this book series!! D&D, Conan, Final Fantasy, Skyrim, Elder Scrolls, The Witcher, and many others. All pay respects to Tolkien for this universe of high fantasy. Hell even George R.R. Martin with his saga books THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE with the first book titled GAME OF THRONES owes it's success to Tolkien. All I can say, welcome to a whole new universe of geek.

[@Makkaru112]

Your comment needs more likes ❤

[@axebeard6085]

[3:30] Don't worry about Bill the Pony. He did make it back to Bree, where Sam met up with him again on the way back to Hobbiton. I seem to recall something in the books about Bill being smarter after having been to Rivendell. [5:35] Here's a rough timeline of Moria, which was founded over 10,000 years before the Fellowship passed through it. They travel through it in the Third Age (T.A.) 1980 T.A. - The Balrog is released in Moria 1981 T.A. - The Dwarves abandon Moria 2480 T.A. - Sauron begins populating Moria with orcs, trolls, etc. 2845 to 2850 T.A. - (Approximately) Gandalf travels through Moria 2989 T.A. - Balin founds a colony in Moria. (Balin traveled with Bilbo Baggins on his adventures) 2994 T.A. - Orcs kill the dwarves in Balin's colony 3019 T.A. - The Fellowship passes through Moria. Gimli knew that Moria existed, but no one knew the fate of Balin's colony. IMO, he ran into the room because he saw the tomb. (I'm guessing that a tomb situated prominently in a room indicates a dwarf of high status, meaning it was likely Balin's). [9:10] Gandalf wasn't joking when he said the mithril shirt was worth the entirety of the Shire and everything in it. I suspect the mithril and the way it is woven gives it a property similar to oobleck, causing impact force to be distributed over a larger area. [11:10] Gandalf (like Saruman) is not entirely human. I'm not going to delve into the cosmology. Gandalf is essentially a lower-ranking angel who has been sent to Middle Earth in human form and with diminished powers. [11:20] The bridge was crafted by Dwarves, likely at the height of their powers. I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge was reinforced with mithril. [13:12] Most of the epic fantasy since 1954 has been inspired (at least in part) by The Lord of the Rings. Video games were being inspired by it long before the films. But yes, a lot of the art design in video games has been inspired these films. [15:20] I believe the coloring choices were made to show how Lothlórien is EXTREMELY magical. Also, the elves revered starlight and moonlight, so it makes sense that the lighting would reflect that. Another thought is that the orange and teal is meant to signify the Years of the Trees. The elves were awoken during the Years of the Trees, when the light in Middle Earth was provided by two trees: Telperion (silver) and Laurelin (gold).

[@thirteenthandy]

3019 for the fellowship passing through Moria, not 2019.

[@axebeard6085]

Thanks. I'll fix it now.@@thirteenthandy

[@CheckersMcGavern]

Ahaha "Again, Ned Stark?" Okay so... what's funny about this is... the guy who plays Boromir (and Ned Stark), Sean Bean, is notorious for playing characters that get killed off. Granted, this movie was made well before anyone really noticed it, but now its a bit of a metagame that people play whenever they watch his movies/shows. lol ++EDIT++ (Also minor spoilers for other movies) Oh! Yeah, he's had a few roles where he hasn't died. IIRC, he was in the movie National Treasure and lived. He was also the lead in the first Silent Hill movie... and somehow survived all that nightmare shit, lol.

[@dudeusmaximus6793]

Aragorn is played by Viggo Mortensen. I think his first big splash was GI Jane. He's been in the game for about 40 years, done quite a bit of stuff, but LOTR is by far and away his most popular work.

[@christopherlyons4923]

My god he was good in GI Jane. That movie is excellent

[@dneill8493]

Loved him as Satan in The Prophecy with Christopher Walken.

[@digitalnomad9985]

I liked him in Appaloosa.

[@behrmann9431]

Imagine waiting a year to see the next movie. That level of anticipation was intense.

[@Kayjee17]

It sucked! And yet... having a year to rewatch this movie and go over every tiny bit of it in long discussions made watching The Two Towers that much better, and obviously that goes double for The Return of the King.

[@behrmann9431]

I saw all 3 of the movies in the Theater at least 10 times each... Not to mention buying them as soon as they came out.@@Kayjee17

[@brandonmclean6108]

Legolas is an elf, immortal and intune with nature. Hinse why they are silent and he's walking on top the snow on the mountain and everyone else is buried. Being immortal elves don't fear death. But when Gandolf talks about the Balrog you see fear in his eyes. When Gandolf dies, being an elf, is his first encounter with death. And Took, being the cause of his death through chain reaction, you see his guilt moreso than the rest. And yes, humans live hundreds of years, I don't see why dwarves would be any different. And not sure if you heard yet, but orcs are mutated elves. But yeah, always love your reactions. You're in for a ride with this series. >:D

[@Makkaru112]

I’ll explain these in other posts in the second movie. Seek out my comment and join in on the conversation ❤️❤️❤️

[@scottlyons33]

The ring enhances strengths of those that bear it. Hobbits are stealthy, so the ring enhances this. With Boromir, his needs (which will be explained later) are also enhanced. He isn't weak, but the ring is using his needs and flaws against him to achieve its own goals.

[@Khaine8]

As suprising as it is, Sean Bean survives in more tv shows and movies that he is in , than ones that he dies in. Its the meme that he always dies. But that is just because a lot of the BIG roles he is well known for, are ones he dies in. He has been in a lot of things. I reccomend Sharpes Rifles tv series from the 80-90s from BBC it is great.

[@xellestar]

The series is just called Sharpe (Sharpe's Rifles is the name of the first episode) but agreed this is a great napoleonic drama series, up there with Hornblower

[@chiefhandker9432]

Check out Ronin and Silent Hill.

[@SiblingsReactandDrink]

The movie Troy

[@digitalnomad9985]

He doesn't die in The Martian, he just gets fired.

[@TheFireMonkey]

Keep in mind, the original book was written as a single huge book but the publisher said it was too big so it had to be cut into three books - often those were sold as a set because it is just one story. The movies match with the three books, so not three separate stories, more 1 story with two breaks [think of it as intermission, though for us who watched it as it came out - very long intermissions!]

[@garystern2294]

Regarding the actor of Boromir/Ned Stark, Sean Bean has played many roles where he dies. The few I can think of where he doesn't die are: Stormy Monday, Troy, and Ronin. He also plays Richard Sharpe in the long-running BBC adaptation of the Sharpe novels by Bernard Cornwell where he is the principle protagonist.

[@XxAverageJoexX]

National treasure.

[@thehalobrony9050]

The stairs and other things that look like CG backgrounds where minetures and composited elements. This is still the early 2000's (VFX planing probobly began in 1999), so CGI landskapes whas not a thing yet. Even the movie King Kong (also by Peter Jackson) was made in 2005 and it had mineture backgrounds. The only studio at this time that had CGI backgrounds (as we call it today) where ILM for making Star Wars episode 2 and 3. Somethings that I would recommend you to do on your own is to watch the Behind the scenes and the making of of the LOtR. They created 3+ hours of special content for every single movie, so 6 to 7 hours total of behind the scenes and making of. It is fantastic and gives a fantastic inside of this movie making. They do not spoiler the upcoming movies, so you can watch the first movies behind the scenes and not be spoiled for the second one.

[@Heuwelman]

I was looking for this comment 👍

[@jordonvh91]

The 3 hairs are very significant in the overall story. The extremely shortened version is thousands of years before the fellowship there was an elven smith named Faenor who asked for Galadriels hair when crafting 3 very powerful gems called the Silmarils. Galadriel denies him because she doesn’t trust him/senses evil in him. So her giving them to a Dwarf is quite significant, as the relation between those races is rocky.

[@garybassin1651]

Women giving their men a token of remembrance, be it a handkerchief or a lock of hair goes back hundreds of years and was most popular during the Victorian era. Sometimes, they were elaborately braided and placed in a locket. It is definitely not "creepy".

[@ronweber1402]

@@garybassin1651 Exactly. In the days before photographs and even for a while thereafter keeping a lock of hair from your beloved while at war or on a long trip was exceedingly common.

[@LordEriolTolkien]

My mother, for many years, kept a lock of my hair, from my first haircut, and my brothers, in a family photo album. Such things are ancient tokens of love and remembrance

[@nltoriola89]

I'm glad you're enjoying this movie. Me personally, I loved Boromir's character. He was the least mystical being with all of his flaws. I'm tired of seeing Sean Bean killed off in everything. 😩

[@GenXDaddyO]

Agreed! Someone needs to cast Sean Bean in a hero role where he lives and achieves victory. He deserves it.

[@jeandoten1510]

You should watch the Martian

[@copperhopperwarren4788]

He starred in a British series called "Sharpes Rifles". It's set during Napoleonic war & has multiple seasons. Well worth the watch imo..

[@robin_the_red_fox4082]

So, in the book, some of the dwarves left the place where Ginli's folk resides to try and retake Moria, which used to belong to them. This was quite a few years before LOTR. For the first few years after, they would receive some good reports from that group, but then all news stopped. They had no idea what had happened to those dwarves until Gimli entered the mines with the Fellowship. The movie kinda changes this detail a little to add to the emotional weight of the movie. In this version, Gimli was thinking they were all alive and well.

[@Anti-NAFO]

🤓

[@CritterPaladin]

Gimli's kinsman, Balin would have led his group to try to reclaim the ruined city within 70 years, at the most.@@Anti-NAFO

[@diamondlil7819]

LOL, I'm so glad that you've taken on board what so many said after your review of Pt 1 - that Tolkien was the first and that others were 'heavily inspired' by him. And the landscape of New Zealand was a perfect fit for this story. Tolkien was writing a mythology for England - and well done all you American actors and other non-British actors who managed to adopt such great English accents. This is why he calls the area that the hobbits come from The Shire, named after all the counties of England that have 'shire' in their names - Hampshire, Shropshire, Yorkshire etc - and why in the next film we meet a load of 'Anglo-Saxon' characters. Tolkien was really upset by the industrialisation of England when forests were cut down and fed into furnaces so that machines could be made. And, although much of our beautiful, rolling landscape still remains, Jackson did the right thing when he decided to film in NZ because it is emptier and is a reflection of a more pristine world. I remember film-goers saying at the time: 'New Zealand IS Middle-earth.'

[@Makkaru112]

Fully agreed. Love your comment ❤

[@terryconnelly484]

Nothing has influenced the books. They influenced everything else you see In movies video games books and TV This is 1 of the OG's

[@xellestar]

While Tolkien is rightly known as the father of modern fantasy, it's ridiculous to say that *nothing* influenced him and LOTR. The guy was a professor and well versed in old folklore such as english, norse and germanic myth and legend, to name a few, which were all very influential in the fantasy world he created.

[@jackb5806]

​@@xellestaragreed. The battle of helms deep for example is basically the battle of Vienna. He did phenominal job of putting all his influences and myth into a coherent epic story.

[@dlweiss]

It's a damn fine movie that can be this long and still leave you going "wait, that's IT? It's OVER?" when it wraps up. :)

[@DrewSwenson]

Sean Bean survived "National Treasure." Countless properties in all manner of fields owe their inspiration to this trilogy of books. Their impact can be felt in everything from Music to, as you stated, Skyrim etc.

[@xellestar]

in my head canon for National Treasure he gets shivved on his first day in prison 😂😅

[@Taylorswiftfan13308]

Sean Bean became famous for playing characters guaranteed to be, as you say, deleted, throughout his early career, so much so that a group of friends and I, already familiar with the story from the books laughed openly when casting info for these movies started seeping out in advance and one friend, unfamiliar with the "Sean Bean curse" innocently commented, "ooh Sean Bean, I like him! I wonder who he plays" and three of us in perfect unison said "Boromir, duh" (I didn't say duh though. my snotty snarkiness had limits even in the prime of my young punk hood.)

[@caseyrogers5087]

He survives in Troy as well

[@mymlan]

He survived The Martian as well, didn't he?

[@masansr]

He survives more than 50% of the movies he's in. I don't think he's even top 3 most-killed actors out there, but it's just that the roles he dies in are so much more iconic than the ones he survives.

[@kobarsos82]

First movie is by far my favourite and always will be. The out of this world narration, Bilbo's introduction and the green Shire, the phenomenal world building, the beauty of New Zealand, the Elf Language, the mad camerawork and shooting - cinematography is through the roof here, the mesmerizing soundtrack, the ring temptation, the makeup and practical effects which are pure amazement, seeing all these new places and races from all those perspectives, meeting the fellowship members little by little until they embark on that perilous journey, the tragedy of Moria and when the fellowship "fails" and has to part ways. Very difficult themes and things to show on screen from the books and yet it is perfection in absolutely everything and sets the stage so greatly, that no viewer is ever left displeased. Its insane how much quality content this movie had. Great writing. No fillers, no stupid romances, no unnecessary battles or excessive violence/hollywood crap. That takes more than just talent. This is true dedication in making a masterpiece that will be remembered throughout the ages. People often talk about the 2nd or 3rd movie being the best, but I couldn't disagree more, without the first film being as great, this trilogy would never be so celebrated as it is. It would never reach the success it has nor reach all the audiences. The beginning is everything believe it or not. That's how you win audiences. That's how you do it right. 22 years after watching it in cinemas, its still the best fantasy movie to date.

[@CertifiedSunset]

It should be mentioned that the ring silently influences people around it, basically wispering in their ear that they can weild the ring to save the day, but in reality it will corrupt the wearer making it super easy for the Ring Wraiths to find. Boromir wasn't weak, but it used his desperation to help his people against him and it resulted in him turning on Frodo because he believed that the ring could be harnessed for good. It took his good intentions and twisted them into betrayal. Once the ring became out of reach he snapped back to normal and regretted his actions because the ring's influence was gone. The ring leverages your desires good or bad to corrupt you and make you steal it or even kill others to get to it. Realistically if Frodo din't break free from Boromir, he would've likely strangled or stabbed frodo to get it due to the Ring's influence.

[@matthoward5429]

Gimli lived in the lonely mountain, and his cousin Balin moved to retake the ancient dwarf kingdom in khazad dum (moria). Gilmi was at the council of elrond because they lost contact with balin and feared orcs were retaking the mountains. So when they entered filming feared the worst, and the tomb confirmed his cousins death. But the real reason for the total destruction of the dwarves was the balrog that was hiding in the mountains since the end of the first age. Gandalf realized this once he saw the balrog, and new the fellowship needed to escape without the balrog following them. The bridge collapses as Gandalf is taken, so there is no chance for anyone to help him.

[@brentsealy9623]

-"yeah, but you heard none of what was just happening". After Gimli said he has the eyes of a hawk and the ears of a fox. The elves tread very lightly. So lightly in fact, that in a shot of them trying to hike through waist high snow on the mountain, Legolas can be seen casually walking on top of the snow. If you blink, you'll miss it. I did the first time I watched it. Someone had to point it out to me and I had to back and watch it again.

[@ChaoticRad]

Gimli talks about his cousin Balin giving them a royal welcome when they enter the mines of Moria. He hadn't been there, that I know of, but he did know that there was a mission by his kin to take back their old Kingdom in Moria. It had been a long time since anyone had heard from them, which is part of the reason that he wants to go there. However, that isn't really stated in the movie... In the movie he seems to believe that they are alive and well. Unfortunately, they've been dead for 25 years. Also, Dwarves live to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-350yrs.

[@bmaster5324]

when Gandalf said "fly you fools", all he was telling them was to run.

[@rickardroach9075]

Nope, he explicitly told them to fly to Mordor on Eagles. 🦅 Even Boromir recognised that one does not simply walk into Mordor.

[@Makkaru112]

@@rickardroach9075 nice one. But fly is old English way of saying run

[@rickardroach9075]

@@Makkaru112 Only because planes hadn’t been invented yet. 😉

[@TheGwydion777]

Sean Bean still lives in the series Sharpe, while all his companions and love interests die off. There are probably more movies and series, but I couldn't name another one.

[@darrenjones5885]

Sean Bean’s characters in Ronin and Sharpe survived. There’s a video on KZbin of him answering questions whilst wearing a “Don’t kill Sean Bean” t-shirt.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Of note, in Cate Blanchet close-ups, they had a bundle of white Christmas lights next to the camera so they would get a diffuse sparkled effect reflecting in Kate's eyes 😲

[@ianwestc]

A reflection of the light of the Trees of Valinor! They are long gone, but the blessed high elves who saw them see them still, and they carry its great power inside of them.

[@Makkaru112]

@@ianwestc ❤️

[@Makkaru112]

@@ianwestc Deeper lore version for you: Galadriel's gift to Gimli has deeper meaning behind it, like most things in this movie & reflects the expanded lore of the middle earth universe. Galadriel is one of the 2-3 most powerful & wise elves remaining in Middle Earth since the time the land was young. She was born in a place called Valinor, or the Undying land... which is basically the place of residence of the Valar, the local pantheon, the local "gods" as you may call them. Back then, the world was not illuminated by the sun, the moon. (Only the stars existed), but rather by 2 trees of gold and silver, Telperion and Laurëlin that lit the world before the sun & moon were born from their last flower and fruit as they were basically killed by Melkor. It is said that Galadriel's hair had somehow captured some of the shine of those two trees. Her uncle Fëanor, who was a great king of the Elven people & also arguably their greatest craftsman to ever live, asked/demanded that she give him a lock of hair, so that he could use it to fashion 3 gems that would shine of the same light as the trees. Sensing his pride & a shadow that wasn’t exactly belonging to him brewing from within, she refused his request 3 times. He stopped asking and made the gems anyway, managing to complete the task he had set for himself even without her hair. Around these 3 gems, the possession of which became the driving force for many of the great events in the world, entire wars that lasted for centuries exploded, & other events. The gems actively shaped the fate of the races of middle earth to the point that the aforementioned Valar got involved directly. During these times, events surrounding the gems brought about the traditional enmity between Dwarves and Elves... the same enmity that Gimli still feels towards them. That enmity however does not survive his encounter with the wise Galadriel, whom Gimli basically falls platonically in love with. By giving him 3 of her hair, Galadriel is opening a door, offering an olive branch that might one day close the gap that divides these two races. Legolas, himself being an Elven prince and centuries old, knows of the story through his father Thranduil & grandfather Oropher, as it shaped the lives of all Elves, and his subtle smile is possibly the first act of acknowledgment and reconciliation. it is also a way for Peter Jackson, the director of the film, to give a nod to all of the fans who know these facts and backstories... a way to make us feel seen, and to make us appreciate just how deeply the makers of the film respect the books and larger universe created by Tolkien. The thing with the hair may seem weird, but there is a significance to it in real life as well as in the lore of the story. In real life, it was not uncommon for wives, fiancés, or even girlfriends to give their men (who were going off to war), a lock of their hair as a keepsake, particularly in WWI, which Tolkien fought in. The lore part of it comes into play in The Silmarillion, Tolkien's tales of the creation of Arda, the Undying Lands of Valinor, and Middle Earth. Galadriel is many, many thousands of years old, & was born in Valinor before the sun & moon were even created. At the time, the world was lit by two trees, one gold and one silver which would shine at different times from each other, but would shine together once a day when one would fade and the other brighten. Galadriel's hair was said to look like the light of the mingled light from the two trees, which may have inspired Feanor, a master craftsman and heir to the high king of the Noldor, to craft the Silmaril's which were three jewels that captured the light of the two trees, one golden light, one silver light, & one co-mingled light. Fëanor had a bit of a thing for Galadriel and begged her for her hair three different times, which she rejected because she could perceive the inner darkness of his heart and rejected him, which made them "un-friends" after that. There is a lot more to the lore than that, so this is the super crib-notes version. But the point is, it was VERY significant that she granted Gimli three of her hairs to a dwarf, when she would not to the son of her king many 10s of thousands of years ago of which she is related to all three kings who were brothers and Elu Thingol of Doriath was one of the brothers that didn’t stay in Valinor even though he was one of the elven ambassadors along with his three brothers and that king I mentioned was VERY close friends with Thingol) ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.) She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous). Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings. I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened. Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz. Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees. Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell. Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.) One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah. Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her. I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed and most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting of the objects that held the last fruit and flower of the two trees of Valinor. Golden Tree Laurëlin’s Last Fruit and The Silver Tree Telperion’s Last Flower + dew She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them. She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning. The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years. Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤ The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair. The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm) Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago. I’m a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea. Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.

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(P1): Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy. she lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth. She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!) Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior. Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity. Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Ñoldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed. Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Ñoldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come. Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come. Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many. Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races. Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin. Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the rebellion and remained in the Undying Lands. As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth. So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.). During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies) Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth. Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. In J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium, Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands, also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon. The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth. Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years. Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings. Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom & fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor. Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!! They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them. As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etc. Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity. As for Finrod himself, he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. He was a true friend to the Edain & played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!) In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans.

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Tolkien was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford. He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed. I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work. A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away. It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten. His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well. Anytime he spoke or even posted a comment into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films. Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep lore by the cinemas literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions. The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas. To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE. His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things. Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life.

[@jordanhallson2324]

The books have so much history and information…Peter Jackson and crew did an amazing job, all things considered!

[@Makkaru112]

All 25 books!

[@ПерецТабака]

"Sharpe's Rifles" is the first of the Sharpe television dramas.

[@acrefray]

The thing with Harry Potter taking huge parts of this with minor changes isn't something worth complaining over, I think. If they are things that are enjoyed, that is enough. There is no need to turn something enjoyed into something toxic. (Yes I understood it was a joke, but sadly some people really do take things a little too far)

[@genny5309]

And the Harry is Frodo thing… that was off.

[@khalillahgreen8776]

Great reaction, thank you also for taking the time to read and understand comments that are giving you a lot more information and background on the characters and lore, I'm sure others will continue to give you more, especially since there are/will be some things that you notice and comment on. An example of this would be the significance of Gimli getting 3 hairs from Galadriel, which is something that is thoroughly covered in the books. Also, just a note from me, you may consider viewing these films through a prism of old magicks, creatures that have different abilities and aren't going to react the way a normal human would, and to also keep in mind that each of the items given by Galadriel are enchanted or have their own magick in some way. Very few things are just normal in this trilogy, and remember, the ring wants to be found; it will corrupt those around it in one way or another, no matter how long it takes. It's powers are for Sauron alone, which is why the "only" thing it does for Frodo is make him invisible. It whispers, lies and gets those who have it/are near it to do things which will ultimately serve its own purpose or Sauron's. Looking forward to seeing your reaction to the upcoming movies! 🙂🙂

[@Kunsoo1024]

The story of Moria is that the Dwarves built it, and the evil things drove them out. Balin, Gimli's cousin once removed, led an expedition to retake the mines and of course failed. In the book Gandalf says, "It was too soon." Balin was one of the dwarves who had travelled with Bilbo in "There and Back Again." Gimli knew of the expedition, but they didn't learn that it failed until the Fellowship went through it.

[@boki1693]

"Is his name Gollum or Sméagol?" Yes. The books were written as one long book. But the publisher divided it into three books against Tolkien's will. Also, Tolkien sort of wrote the books in six parts. Sort of just like how you divided part 1 and 2. but for each book. I say this because the exciting part in each movie is in the second half. With each books second half, bringing the excitement to a new awesome level. Gimli has never been to Kazadoom. One of his relatives, one of the Dwarves in the Hobbit, fairly recently, like within the last 50 years went to rediscover and build a colony there. It had been abandoned many years ago because the Dwarves dug to deep and awoke a Balrog that killed them. I imagine Gimli knew where to look because all the Dwarf settlements would have a similar layout.

[@Makkaru112]

Khazad Dûm

[@boki1693]

@@Makkaru112 Yeah, I am spelling challenged. LOL. There was no way I was going to spell that. So I mailed it in.

[@MC-ql6bz]

I still remember when one of my friends watched this when it was first released. He didn’t know it was a book series and thought it was a stand alone movie. When it ended he was so angry thinking he would never know what happened.

[@TeenTyrant]

“Fly,” in this context, did not mean to actually fly, but to flee, to run. You’ll hear it used in that manner again in at least the third movie. And to get ahead of it, if you’re wondering why they don’t just fly on the same giant eagles that Gandalf jumped on the back of to escape the tower, it’s because they could be affected by the Ring as well, Saruman had spies in the air that would know they were coming and he could cast spells to bring them down, and Mordor has air combat abilities, so just flying to the mountain and dropping the Ring into the lava DOES NOT WORK AS AN OPTION, to all those reading who have wondered this.

[@Makkaru112]

Saruman/Sauron, Gandalf, Eagles are all Maiar

[@GeraldWalls]

The Lord of the Rings is THE seminal work from which all other modern fantasy descend. Tolkien's brilliance gave us a fully-developed mythos from which to draw not only D&D but practically all other fantasy stories. Thank you, Tolkien.

[@Makkaru112]

Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown, And through the merry flowers of June, Over grass and over stone, And under mountains in the moon. Roads go ever ever on Under cloud and under star, Yet feet that wandering have gone Turn at last to home afar. Eyes that fire and sword have seen And horror in the halls of stone Look at last on meadows green And trees and hills they long have known” The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above! There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings. The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell: The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say. The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before. The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep. The Road goes ever on and on Out from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, Let others follow it who can! Let them a journey new begin, But I at last with weary feet Will turn towards the lighted inn, My evening-rest and sleep to meet. 1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads". 1980: The Return of the King (1980 film): A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On". 1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series): Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver. 1997: An Evening in Rivendell: The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff. 2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End. 2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical: The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act. 2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film. This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!

[@sonamadinolf6096]

In answer to your questions about the dwarves' age and timing: Dwarves live about 350 years on average. The mines of Moria were reclaimed by Balin, a relative of Gimli about 50 years prior. That's whose tomb they find. Due to their long lifespan, plus the time and distance involved in travel, it's not weird to be out of contact for years (though in the book it was getting long enough that they were starting to wonder). If you look at the bodies, they are decayed, but not completely skeletons, so that timeframe holds in the movie.

[@mariaghiglieri78]

You called it. Hobbiton is about a two hour drive outside of Auckland. Totally worth a visit. It’s just as beautiful in person as on camera.

[@Makkaru112]

(If this wasn’t the extended edition): scenes at risk of being missed: 1• Frodo and Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.

[@voldavkuk]

Sean Bean, the actor who played Boromir dies in almost every TV or movie production he performed in. The only EXCEPTION I know of is the British TV Series "Sharpe" where he is the star and hero of the show as Richard Sharpe, 95th Rifles in the peninsular campaign under Sir Arthur Wellesley, better known as the Duke of Wellington. He gets wounded several times but doesn't die.

[@Makkaru112]

The current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is 87. Legolas is 2,931. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41! Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore. Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring: 1. Elrond Half-elven - over 8,586 while his daughter is 3,777 old! 2. Galadriel - around 20,000 3. Celeborn - 20,000; (he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient.) 4. Glorfindel (replaced scenes with Arwen in the movies but it helped prop up Aragorn’s Film character progression. I still think they could have incorporated them both in the scenes somehow and included the other important stuff that went on in that forest meeting Glorfindel and his company of elves)- he’s over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa {spirit} is far older than 2000.) 5. Thranduil - over 8000, (as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband). It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new body I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!

[@jrm48220]

Sam is the ultimate "ride or die" kind of friend. We could all use a Samwise is our lives.

[@TheFireMonkey]

as someone who has fought in armor in medieval recreation battles, I had to wonder at Frodo getting hit no matter how strong that armor was but my best explanation [other than Tolkien didn't know much about how armor works] would be that somehow when hit suddenly the chainmail becomes magically rigid and also absorbs the force of the impact - kind of more like a force field than a physical armor. I take it to be a case of magic intersecting with the physical world.

[@jaytucker7873]

These films coined the term "bigature" because the miniature sets they used for enviroment shots filled entire warehouses. So no, they didn't carve out REAL entire mountains. Just scale ones.

[@acrefray]

"Yeeaaarrrgh" - Bilbo. Most well delivered line of the trilogy.

[@embran8486]

Nah, still give that to Gollum. But Serkis has far more chances to adjust the perfect screams and squeals for the creature.

[@danielwhitt6435]

in medieval europe allowing someone to wear a lock of your hair was giving them your favor. gimli has that honest dwarf rizz

[@christinahilt2978]

Gimli was expecting his family to be there and alive. Dwarves (like Elves) are long lived.

[@Man_The_Machines]

Definitely Skyrim. It’s actually hard to fathom how much Tolkien has inspired most things I like :)

[@marygifford9379]

Written in the years between 1937 and 1949, LOTR launched the entire fantasy genre.

[@Grithron2]

My standard answer to "movies where Sean Bean survives" - Stormy Monday, a very peculiar film from as far back as 1988.

[@hornorsilk2901]

The Nazgul (Ring Wraiths) are recovering from what was done to them, so they are not around... at this point

[@alternateuniverse422]

Yeah, I'm so old that I was at the midnight premiere of this movie (ok yes all 3). Since then I have seen it more times than I can count and still love it just as much. Let's go Two Towers! Also just as a side note: Aragorn closing Frodo's hand over the ring and saying "I would have gone with you til the end" is one of my favorite scenes in all the movies.

[@genny5309]

Same and agreed.

[@jordyvanespelo1332]

Sean Bean plays in the Sharpe series. This takes place in the war between England and France during the time of Napoleon. Based on the books by Bernard Cornwell. Sean bean at his peak. Definitely worth watching!

[@danonhennessey9662]

There is actually less CGI than you would suspect. The majority of sets and structures are filmed miniatures. They built them to a scale that was so large, to get as much detail as they could, that Peter Jackson jokingly referred to them as bigatures.

[@iDontShareMyData]

Actor Sean Bean (Boromir) has had over 125 rolls on TV and movies. He certainly doesn't die in all of them (just 24 of them). Some of my favorites are: "James Bond: Goldeneye" (ok... yes, he dies in that), "Bravo Two Zero" (he's the only one who lives) and of course, his fabulous turn as Richard Sharpe in the BBC Napoleonic war series "Sharp"

[@TheFireMonkey]

The Ring Wraiths are sure to have felt it when Frodo put the ring on, but they are also likely a long way off - maybe 100s of miles or more, so it will take them time to get there.

[@Gada101]

Imagine being 13, sitting in the theater when the credits roll, and having to wait a full year before you can watch the next one. I had so many questions.

[@mrglasses8953]

Yes he lived in the Sharpe series, which made Sean Bean famous.

[@Shadywhtboy22]

Sean Bean plays a character called Richard Sharpe who is the main character in a series of made-for-TV movies set during the Napoleonic Wars. In the movie Ronin, his character is a mercenary who gets totally humiliated by Robert DeNiro's character; he doesn't get killed, but he doesn't make it past the first quarter of the film.

[@TheNeilBlack]

3:40 Canonically the horse finds its way back to Rivendell. 6:20 Gimli is from a different dwarven city. Moria is an ancient city that the dwarves lost long ago, but there was a recent attempt to recolonize it led by Gimli's cousin. He expected to find friendly dwarves and a warm welcome, not dead bodies. 19:10: The Ring's power is based on the bearer's power. Frodo has very little power, so all it really does is make him invisible. Aragorn could use it to gather great armies and become a tyrant king, making war against the nations of Middle Earth. Sauron (or someone like Gandalf or Saruman) could use it to dominate minds and rule Middle Earth until the end of days. 20:35 The Ringwraiths were "killed" when they got washed away in the river outside of Rivendell. They didn't actually die, but their physical forms were lost and they had to return to Mordor on foot to be restored before they could continue their hunt. 21:25 The movies kind of did Boromir dirty. A big point of his character is to show that even a noble, well-intentioned, generally good person can fall under the sway of the Ring. He's not more susceptible, the other characters are less susceptible. Boromir is what happens when a (mostly) ordinary person is tempted by the Ring. What happens with him isn't a moral failing on his part, it's a showcase of the Ring's ability to manipulate and corrupt. Boromir's goodness is especially highlighted right at the end. Aragorn shows up, fights off the orc, and then as Boromir lay dying his first words, the thing he considers most important to tell Aragorn, are, "They took the little ones." In any other fantasy story this man would be the hero.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

The thing with Balin in Moria. So the hobbit comes before these films and it’s the tale of Bilbo with… several dwarves including Balin. Between the end of that and this film Balin and a group of others took back Moria. (It’s like 60+ years between) after some point in time Gimlis group of dwarves didn’t hear from Moria so they traveled to Rivendell to inquire from Elrond, that’s why Gimli is at the council. (In the books this didn’t happen like that, each member came for a different reason to Rivendell and more like fate all arrived in time for the need for a council) So all of the dwarves had been gone from Moria for a very long time. They lived in the other kingdoms. They’d only just gotten it back when the orcs retook it

[@kreidmar]

Sean Bean (Boromir) plays the role of Ulysses in "Troy". Of course he outlives the movie.

[@ArcAngelAlice]

Sean Bean, the actor that plays Boromir and Ned Stark, lives in at least three movies I can think of which are National Treasure, The Martian, and Troy.

[@Jonas_æ]

I posted it on the first half and I'll echo it here. Andrew Lesnie did a masterful job with the cinematography in these films, and they're amongst the most beautifully shot films in cinema history.

[@Satchmo10th]

Sean Bean survives the whole way through "The Martian." That's another fantastic movie, if you haven't seen it.

[@VadulTharys]

The books are written for adults they have loss, they have tragedy, it shows the actual horrors of war, yet through it all there is hope. There is always hope as long as you never give up. The book covers the deep friendship of men bonded in war and struggle, the hope of people for a brighter future, and how in the end we must depend on those around us to achieve anything great.

[@Vyperus69]

The Hobbit was a bed time story he made up for his kids and later wrote down and got published and LoTR was partially a continuation aimed at the now grown up (Adult) readers of the Hobbit and partially a reaction to WW2, you can even lay a transparent copy of a map of middle-earth over a map of Europe and the shire, Rivendell and everything to the west of the Misty Mountains and North of Moria will be directly over the UK whilst Mordor is directly over Germany.

[@SaulOhio]

Dwarves are long lived. Three or four hundred years is not uncommon. Moria used to be a VERY ancient city, but was overrun by goblins and something called "Durin's Bane", which we find out was the Balrog. It was after the events in the book The Hobbit (Another set of movies) that Balin went back to try to reclaim Moria. For a few years he was successful, but they lost contact only a couple decades before the LOTR. Gimli was hoping they were OK and wanted to re-establish contact. This is part of the massive world building that Tolkien did. There are all sorts of stories, a very long history of Middle Earth, much of which Tolkien left untold, just to make it more real.

[@blairhaffly1777]

The excellent TV series Sharpe, 7 seasons, Napoleonic War era stars Sean Bean. He lives. The Martian and Troy are two movies he lives through.

[@CertifiedSunset]

Tolkein didn't create the origin of the fantasy genre, but he definitely expanded upon it and made it the type of fantasy that we know today. Fantasy as a genre stemmed from mythology and fairy tales as I understand it. But the likes of Tolkein crafted worlds and histories that fleshed out story based adventure tales that feature all of these magical and unnatural creatures such as orc, golblins, elves, and dragons etc. To put it basically, fantasy existed before Tolkein, but Tolkein made it popular. And it's true that Harry Potter took many aspects of Tolkein's work for her story, but George R. R. Martin took WAY more directly from Tolkein's world and simply delved more into the political and interpersonal side of fantasy. You'll find Lord of the Rings to be much for traditional adventure fantasy, which keeps the plot pretty simple and the stakes high.

[@toodlescae]

Goblin and orc are kind of interchangeable in the story. In the book Frodo did have a couple of busted ribs after being hit by the cave troll in the mines of Moria. The mitbril armor saved him from anything worse. The books really are worth the read. I finally read them 2 years ago and they're amazing. This story was originally written as one book but the publishers said it was too long so they split it into 3 books. Each with it's own cliffhanger type ending except Return of the King the final book. Galadriel is over 8,000 years old and one of, if not the, most powerful elves still in Middle Earth. She's also Arwen's (Aragorn's lady love) grandmother. Passing the test of not taking the ring means she's forgiven for what she did in the far distant past and can now go the Undying Lands with the other elves.

[@christopherlyons4923]

Goblins and orca are def not interchangeable lol

[@toodlescae]

@@christopherlyons4923 I was told that goblin and orc were basically the same thing in LOTR.

[@greenman4946]

To nitpick a bit, it wasn’t a cave troll who stabbed Frodo in the book.

[@toodlescae]

@@greenman4946 I've only read the books once about 2 years ago. I've started listening to the audiobooks again but I don't retain the info as well that way.

[@sntxrrr]

"Bro, is his name Gollum or Smeagol?" Yes.

[@Makkaru112]

“I shall NOT be Dark. (All evil) will despair” The elves (Galadriel especially is one of the few remaining that existed before the sun & moon. They pre-existed day and night.) How utterly, completely terrifying do you think it would be for your whole world to irrevocably change in a matter of an hour? For the thousands of years of (what you would come to know as twilight to be abruptly ended in a profundity of genuinely painful light and an infinity of colour? Of the joy, wonder and terror of distinguishing the difference between green and blue for the very first time in your whole life?) She is talking about the immediate, majestic sublimity of reality that one experiences in it's totality for the very first time. How on earth could that not be so terrifying as to threaten one's sanity? Galadriel with the ring would be exactly as beautiful and horrifying. I personally would not know whether to weep bitterly and perfectly, or claw my eyes out through the sheer, unutterable terror of her being in such a circumstance. But know this: she was showing Frodo what would happen if someone else got the ring. She wasn’t tempted at all. Gandalf tells. Galadriel shows. See the difference now. Two sides of the same coin. Both were needed.

[@Makkaru112]

(Galadriel P2): Here is more stuff that connects to when Morgoth killed Fëanor’s father Finwë (as I described in the beginning of this message above): •The First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë. It took place in the city of Alqualondë on the shores of Aman when the Noldor, led by Fëanor, stole the ships of the Teleri (which also that clan didn’t like the energy coming from Fëanor but also didn’t want to start another war with Morgoth ontop of Teleri being rather peaceful in general; along with the fact it was all just a bit rash on their perspective so to speak to leave for Middle-earth, resulting in the deaths of many Teleri. This act was a major turning point in the history of the Elves and led to the estrangement of the Noldor and the Valar. This is the battle where I may have mentioned in the Galadriel hair comment. Where she was defending her mothers people from Fëanor and his army which is one of the main reasons he backed the hell off. She’s a very cool character. One of the most beloved still alive in middle ear to after so many ages of the world had passed into the third age that you’re watching this movie in!) •The decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was a choice made by the Noldor, led by Fëanor, on their own. They were driven by their desire to reclaim the Silmarils, which had been stolen by Morgoth, and to avenge the deaths of their kin who had been killed in the pursuit of the jewels. The journey through the Helcaraxë was a difficult one, and many of the Noldor perished along the way. However, it was not seen as a punishment, but rather as a test of endurance and resilience. Those who survived the journey were strengthened by it and became more powerful as a result. In summary, the First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë, and the decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was made by the Ñoldor on their own. The Helcaraxë was a difficult journey, but it was seen as a test of endurance on its own rather than a punishment. This isn’t even 10 percent of the whole story just with her life and the life of her family shaped middle earth as we know it and made sure survival into the ages was even possible. Especially for both men and elves. She even among many elves is a living example of a bygone era for both kindreds.

[@3rdjrh]

Tryna climb a mountain with no rope, axes, no camping bags, guaranteed to fail

[@aumelb]

A body takes about up to 10 years to decompose to a skeleton in the ground but it in right conditions, it can happen within weeks. So, it's completely feasible that Gimli didn't know what happened in Mines of Moria in recent past.

[@mwest3191]

Sidenote: As a Tolkien-head, I also grew up and remain, a huge Harry Potter fan. (📚>🎬) I was a Brit-Lit major, and the old adage would tell us that there are no new stories: only different ways of telling them. I would challenge you not to pit them against each other, but let it stand in appreciation to Tolkien’s widespread influence in everything from HP to GOT. Fun fact, even Tolkien admittedly drew influence from ancient texts such as Beowulf (Gollum is a parallel to the antagonist in that- Grendel.) Yeesh, NERD ALERT. Lmao, good reaction! Can’t wait for Two Towers, it’s low key my fav.

[@johnwalters1341]

Peter Jackson & Co. had to keep the action moving all the time, so a lot of Tolkien's detail had to be sacrificed. Gimli and the other Dwarves at the Council of Elrond knew that Balin and other Dwarves had attempted to recolonize Moria twenty-odd years previously, but nothing had been heard from them for a number of years. The Gimli of the movies is being excessively optimistic. In fact, the Balrog and the Orcs had destroyed the Dwarf colony about 25 years previous to our story.

[@jon3262]

Sean Bean actually lives through the entire movie Troy.

[@Rocco1332]

"Lack of romance"...yes! Lol.

[@lynnesears6254]

As others may have mentioned, Sean Bean, was the hero in "Sharpe" set in the Napoleanic Wars. Excellent series from the UK. Haha, and now you have to wait a full year before the next in the trilogy! It was tough!

[@rickardroach9075]

That’s why when Boromir cut his finger on the shards of Narsil they added the line “Still sharp(e)” as an Easter egg.

[@lynnesears6254]

LOL 😀@@rickardroach9075

[@dekelt]

Galadriel: "But tell me, what would you do with such a gift?'" Gimli: "'Treasure it, Lady,' he answered, 'in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if I ever return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystal to be a heirloom of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.' "

[@Makkaru112]

(P1): Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy. she lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth. She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!) Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior. Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity. Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Ñoldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed. Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Ñoldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come. Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come. Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many. Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races. Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin. Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the rebellion and remained in the Undying Lands. As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth. So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.). During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies) Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth. Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. In J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium, Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands, also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon. The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth. Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years. Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings. Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom & fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor. Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!! They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them. As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etc. Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity. As for Finrod himself, he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. He was a true friend to the Edain & played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!) In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans.

[@Makkaru112]

(P2): Here is more stuff that connects to when Morgoth killed Fëanor’s father Finwë (as I described in the beginning of this message above): •The First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë. It took place in the city of Alqualondë on the shores of Aman when the Noldor, led by Fëanor, stole the ships of the Teleri (which also that clan didn’t like the energy coming from Fëanor but also didn’t want to start another war with Morgoth ontop of Teleri being rather peaceful in general; along with the fact it was all just a bit rash on their perspective so to speak to leave for Middle-earth, resulting in the deaths of many Teleri. This act was a major turning point in the history of the Elves and led to the estrangement of the Noldor and the Valar. This is the battle where I may have mentioned in the Galadriel hair comment. Where she was defending her mothers people from Fëanor and his army which is one of the main reasons he backed the hell off. She’s a very cool character. One of the most beloved still alive in middle ear to after so many ages of the world had passed into the third age that you’re watching this movie in!) •The decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was a choice made by the Noldor, led by Fëanor, on their own. They were driven by their desire to reclaim the Silmarils, which had been stolen by Morgoth, and to avenge the deaths of their kin who had been killed in the pursuit of the jewels. The journey through the Helcaraxë was a difficult one, and many of the Noldor perished along the way. However, it was not seen as a punishment, but rather as a test of endurance and resilience. Those who survived the journey were strengthened by it and became more powerful as a result. In summary, the First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë, and the decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was made by the Ñoldor on their own. The Helcaraxë was a difficult journey, but it was seen as a test of endurance on its own rather than a punishment. This isn’t even 10 percent of the whole story just with her life and the life of her family shaped middle earth as we know it and made sure survival into the ages was even possible. Especially for both men and elves. She even among many elves is a living example of a bygone era for both kindreds.

[@Makkaru112]

Galadriel's gift to Gimli has deeper meaning behind it, like most things in this movie & reflects the expanded lore of the middle earth universe. Galadriel is one of the 2-3 most powerful & wise elves remaining in Middle Earth since the time the land was young. She was born in a place called Valinor, or the Undying land... which is basically the place of residence of the Valar, the local pantheon, the local "gods" as you may call them. Back then, the world was not illuminated by the sun, the moon. (Only the stars existed), but rather by 2 trees of gold and silver, Telperion and Laurëlin that lit the world before the sun & moon were born from their last flower and fruit as they were basically killed by Melkor. It is said that Galadriel's hair had somehow captured some of the shine of those two trees. Her uncle Fëanor, who was a great king of the Elven people & also arguably their greatest craftsman to ever live, asked/demanded that she give him a lock of hair, so that he could use it to fashion 3 gems that would shine of the same light as the trees. Sensing his pride & a shadow that wasn’t exactly belonging to him brewing from within, she refused his request 3 times. He stopped asking and made the gems anyway, managing to complete the task he had set for himself even without her hair. Around these 3 gems, the possession of which became the driving force for many of the great events in the world, entire wars that lasted for centuries exploded, & other events. The gems actively shaped the fate of the races of middle earth to the point that the aforementioned Valar got involved directly. During these times, events surrounding the gems brought about the traditional enmity between Dwarves and Elves... the same enmity that Gimli still feels towards them. That enmity however does not survive his encounter with the wise Galadriel, whom Gimli basically falls platonically in love with. By giving him 3 of her hair, Galadriel is opening a door, offering an olive branch that might one day close the gap that divides these two races. Legolas, himself being an Elven prince and centuries old, knows of the story through his father Thranduil & grandfather Oropher, as it shaped the lives of all Elves, and his subtle smile is possibly the first act of acknowledgment and reconciliation. it is also a way for Peter Jackson, the director of the film, to give a nod to all of the fans who know these facts and backstories... a way to make us feel seen, and to make us appreciate just how deeply the makers of the film respect the books and larger universe created by Tolkien. The thing with the hair may seem weird, but there is a significance to it in real life as well as in the lore of the story. In real life, it was not uncommon for wives, fiancés, or even girlfriends to give their men (who were going off to war), a lock of their hair as a keepsake, particularly in WWI, which Tolkien fought in. The lore part of it comes into play in The Silmarillion, Tolkien's tales of the creation of Arda, the Undying Lands of Valinor, and Middle Earth. Galadriel is many, many thousands of years old, & was born in Valinor before the sun & moon were even created. At the time, the world was lit by two trees, one gold and one silver which would shine at different times from each other, but would shine together once a day when one would fade and the other brighten. Galadriel's hair was said to look like the light of the mingled light from the two trees, which may have inspired Feanor, a master craftsman and heir to the high king of the Noldor, to craft the Silmaril's which were three jewels that captured the light of the two trees, one golden light, one silver light, & one co-mingled light. Fëanor had a bit of a thing for Galadriel and begged her for her hair three different times, which she rejected because she could perceive the inner darkness of his heart and rejected him, which made them "un-friends" after that. There is a lot more to the lore than that, so this is the super crib-notes version. But the point is, it was VERY significant that she granted Gimli three of her hairs to a dwarf, when she would not to the son of her king many 10s of thousands of years ago of which she is related to all three kings who were brothers and Elu Thingol of Doriath was one of the brothers that didn’t stay in Valinor even though he was one of the elven ambassadors along with his three brothers and that king I mentioned was VERY close friends with Thingol) ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.) She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous). Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings. I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened. Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz. Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees. Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell. Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.) One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah. Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her. I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed and most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting of the objects that held the last fruit and flower of the two trees of Valinor. Golden Tree Laurëlin’s Last Fruit and The Silver Tree Telperion’s Last Flower + dew She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them. She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning. The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years. Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤ The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair. The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm) Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago. I’m a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea. Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.

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2:29 The entire book series written by Tolkien basically created “fantasy” as a genre.

[@mgentles3]

Boromir was a product of his place, time, and the role he played in his own country. He did desire power, BUT his city and his countrymen lived on the doorstep of Mordor, home of Sauron. His life was spent fighting to keep Sauron's forces at bay. He was a great warrior and captain. A leader of men. He believed he could overcome Sauron completely with the power of the ring and bring his country back to its former glory and greatness. He also, though, had asked as a child why his father was Steward, not King, of Gondor when the last king had marched off about a 1000 years before and never returned. So he did have ambition, some arrogance about his own abilities, and a desire to order things as he thought best. That's the story of the world we live in right now, where a handful of men believe they can order all things and direct our lives far better than we can ourselves.

[@hannesmayer3716]

Gimli knew that the mines of Moria existed, but he never was been there, and was impressed by the size; like the movie watcher... ;)